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Rdzy
07-17-2018, 09:04 AM
I noticed that sts are not that active when it comes to social media. Their yt channel are all about Arcane Legends (AL) . They should have like an fb page for pl to encourage people to play the game .

Absolize
07-17-2018, 09:09 AM
I agree 100% this could be a GREAT thing for the games. I feel they should also put their games in youtube ads and such just to get more people to know about it, these games are insanely fun only sad part is not many people know about this small organization, the games would blow up if recognized. :)

Zojak
07-17-2018, 11:00 AM
Live streaming is a great way we the players can help advertise the games. If anybody is interested in streaming I’d be more than happy to assist in any way I can and help promote streams

Bats
07-17-2018, 12:09 PM
Like this outdated video by PL?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WmjbEhtFOI4

Dolloway
07-17-2018, 03:41 PM
For newer games? Yes. For older games that are small compared to games like WoW? Not so much.

As Zojak stated, one of the biggest ways a game can blow up is through streamers. Unfortunately, there aren't many streamers that stream STS games outside of Zojak.

Perhaps STS could reach out to a well-known streamer and offer to pay that individual to stream their game(s), just a thought. There are games that have blown up as a result of well-known streamers trying them for as little as one day. It entirely depends on how big of an audience that streamer typically has and what impression the streamer leaves its audience with, in addition to how well the audience receives the game.

Zojak
07-17-2018, 03:52 PM
Perhaps STS could reach out to a well-known streamer and offer to pay that individual to stream their game(s), just a thought. There are games that have blown up as a result of well-known streamers trying them for as little as one day. It entirely depends on how big of an audience that streamer typically has and what impression the streamer leaves its audience with, in addition to how well the audience receives the game.

Unfortunately this was already attempted in AL a couple of years ago and didn’t go so well, which is why the dev support I received, though VERY appreciated. Was limited. Even though I did above and beyond what the old partnered streamers did back then.

But that aside the mobile scene on twitch is very small, that along with declining population in the legends game are two of the biggest reasons my stream, as well as other streams will fail. Comparing to when I started streaming AL in 2013 I had 300 or so viewers every stream, to now in 2018 I’m lucky to get 5

plpr
07-17-2018, 04:27 PM
I think streaming is great for games already established to keep population and grow. BUT I think the legend games really need a big YouTuber shout-out. I don't mean a channel with 5000 subscribers and 1000 views per video I mean pay a channel with 500,000 subscribers that gets 50,000 views per video and the payoff would be tremendous no matter the cost. It will surely hook more than a handful of players that will pay back the investment in no time.

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Congeniality
07-17-2018, 04:48 PM
I think streaming is great for games already established to keep population and grow. BUT I think the legend games really need a big YouTuber shout-out. I don't mean a channel with 5000 subscribers and 1000 views per video I mean pay a channel with 500,000 subscribers that gets 50,000 views per video and the payoff would be tremendous no matter the cost. It will surely hook more than a handful of players that will pay back the investment in no time.

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I currently hover around 1000 subscribers making nearly exclusively PL content, however I am currently finding it hard to come out with new, innovative content that is action packed and fun. The best way to make content is on pc, but pc Pocket Legends is hard as balls. So I am pretty much stuck to making informative videos like 'How To's'. Do you guys think I should either:

1) Get good and stop complaining about how hard pc PL is, or
2) Double down on informative content that isn't as action packed.

I really like this game, but honestly have been hitting a strong case of content creator's block (lmao) so any feedback is appreciated.

Thanks,
Walie

XghostzX
07-17-2018, 07:19 PM
I currently hover around 1000 subscribers making nearly exclusively PL content, however I am currently finding it hard to come out with new, innovative content that is action packed and fun. The best way to make content is on pc, but pc Pocket Legends is hard as balls. So I am pretty much stuck to making informative videos like 'How To's'. Do you guys think I should either:

1) Get good and stop complaining about how hard pc PL is, or
2) Double down on informative content that isn't as action packed.

I really like this game, but honestly have been hitting a strong case of content creator's block (lmao) so any feedback is appreciated.

Thanks,
Walie

This is where having a spectator mode would come in extremely clutch for PL. For example, tournaments provide ample (and exciting), non-exhaustive content. People would love to stream/view them.

yannjoel
07-18-2018, 04:53 AM
An advertisement campaign is probably way to expensive. If it would economically make sence to promote old sts games then sts would do this.
The fact that theres no advertisement campaign just says that PL doesn't create a high enough payback for running an advertisement campaign.

Fwend
07-18-2018, 06:02 AM
Something like this?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K8kQgEq_we8

The Developer we love most - Cinco loco

Follome
07-18-2018, 07:50 PM
I currently hover around 1000 subscribers making nearly exclusively PL content, however I am currently finding it hard to come out with new, innovative content that is action packed and fun. The best way to make content is on pc, but pc Pocket Legends is hard as balls. So I am pretty much stuck to making informative videos like 'How To's'. Do you guys think I should either:

1) Get good and stop complaining about how hard pc PL is, or
2) Double down on informative content that isn't as action packed.

I really like this game, but honestly have been hitting a strong case of content creator's block (lmao) so any feedback is appreciated.

Thanks,
Walie

Maybe do competitions, like:
1) Time limit to farm a specific item
2) Race from lvl 1 to 105
3) PVP, maybe with handicaps, etc.
4) Gather Guild, and gather an Audience. You vs (Willing Participant). Choose topic to debate (Topics in PL, Life, Movies/shows, etc). You start with 1-3 minutes to make point. Opponent does the same. You rebuttal. Opponent rebuttals. Audience sides with whoever they think wins debate.
5) Scavenger Hunt with Guild Members (idk, just wanted to say this)
6) Whoever completes map the fastest. Handicaps or no gear (idk)

Or, play PL and invite people you know irl to discuss heavy topics like Politics, environmental, gaming, life, etc. Deep or light. I'd watch that. Maybe do streams too, invite these irl people. Maybe even do this with other PL youtubers like HQNA, and others.

I would also like to know who other PL youtubers are. I would sub!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Congeniality
07-19-2018, 02:58 PM
Maybe do competitions, like:
1) Time limit to farm a specific item
2) Race from lvl 1 to 105
3) PVP, maybe with handicaps, etc.
4) Gather Guild, and gather an Audience. You vs (Willing Participant). Choose topic to debate (Topics in PL, Life, Movies/shows, etc). You start with 1-3 minutes to make point. Opponent does the same. You rebuttal. Opponent rebuttals. Audience sides with whoever they think wins debate.
5) Scavenger Hunt with Guild Members (idk, just wanted to say this)
6) Whoever completes map the fastest. Handicaps or no gear (idk)

Or, play PL and invite people you know irl to discuss heavy topics like Politics, environmental, gaming, life, etc. Deep or light. I'd watch that. Maybe do streams too, invite these irl people. Maybe even do this with other PL youtubers like HQNA, and others.

I would also like to know who other PL youtubers are. I would sub!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Hi Follo,

Thank you for the detailed response! I will for sure look into doing all of these points as I find them to be incredible feedback. I have a feeling you will be seeing something new from my channel in the coming weeks.

Thank you,
Walie

Draebatad
07-19-2018, 03:01 PM
I've always suggested that a grassroots approach to spreading the word about PL to friends, family and associates is the most effective and cheapest way to grow the community. Then act as their guide as they learn the ropes. And trying to get retired players back in action again. So, think about referrals of such people to PL, and even if 1 out of 10 stays, that is a win.

Absolize
07-19-2018, 03:45 PM
I currently hover around 1000 subscribers making nearly exclusively PL content, however I am currently finding it hard to come out with new, innovative content that is action packed and fun. The best way to make content is on pc, but pc Pocket Legends is hard as balls. So I am pretty much stuck to making informative videos like 'How To's'. Do you guys think I should either:

1) Get good and stop complaining about how hard pc PL is, or
2) Double down on informative content that isn't as action packed.

I really like this game, but honestly have been hitting a strong case of content creator's block (lmao) so any feedback is appreciated.

Thanks,
Walie

I find it very easy to make videos using the “Screen Record” option on any iOS device, can be done with just a press of a button.

xzLegendszx
07-20-2018, 02:16 AM
STS won't do it because this game is already very old.

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Follome
07-20-2018, 01:50 PM
Hi Follo,

Thank you for the detailed response! I will for sure look into doing all of these points as I find them to be incredible feedback. I have a feeling you will be seeing something new from my channel in the coming weeks.

Thank you,
Walie

No problem! Hope your channel grows! I would also like to know the name of it, lol. Unless I'm blind and was already said ;o

Draebatad
07-20-2018, 04:07 PM
STS won't do it because this game is already very old.

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It's so old, I do not remember when we had our last update. ;) Nothing is impossible in 2018 for PL.

Congeniality
07-20-2018, 06:21 PM
No problem! Hope your channel grows! I would also like to know the name of it, lol. Unless I'm blind and was already said ;o

The channel name is. "That Boss Guy", I'll link it below!

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCke1xZVZtI6hggAUf7oW1Sw?view_as=subscriber

Thank you again,
Walie

Jensmage
07-21-2018, 02:06 AM
I thought word of mouth was advertising. The game has way too many levels or inactive levels. The players are distributed everywhere. When they are distributed everywhere, u have less communication and that makes the game seem not active. New players will interact with old players less because of the level distribution.

U have new players that can’t access Oktal main map because they require a pet to access that realm. We know that Balefort isn’t as active as it use to be. Most active and oldgen players are at Oktal. Oktal shouldn’t require a pet to access.

Follome
07-21-2018, 04:03 AM
I thought word of mouth was advertising. The game has way too many levels or inactive levels. The players are distributed everywhere. When they are distributed everywhere, u have less communication and that makes the game seem not active. New players will interact with old players less because of the level distribution.

U have new players that can’t access Oktal main map because they require a pet to access that realm. We know that Balefort isn’t as active as it use to be. Most active and oldgen players are at Oktal. Oktal shouldn’t require a pet to access.

Frankly, I agree with you. Maybe oktal shouldn't possess a cs anymore? Keep everything else? Don't know if that would be done, but making balefort the hotspot again might definetly help old and new gen communicate.

Although, guilds seem to break the ice on that note.

Draebatad
07-22-2018, 02:15 AM
Oktal town access should stay as is. Balefort always has a full town as far as I've seen every single day. A lil loko pet is cheap enough to get into Oktal.

Congeniality
07-22-2018, 10:07 AM
By the way, I am conducting a live stream in response to this thread to help grow / sustain the community. If you want more information on it, the link to the thread is below:

https://www.spacetimestudios.com/showthread.php?426828-PL-Live-Stream-PvP-Q-amp-A-Etc-7-27

Thank you!
Walie

Jensmage
07-22-2018, 02:47 PM
Oktal town access should stay as is. Balefort always has a full town as far as I've seen every single day. A lil loko pet is cheap enough to get into Oktal.

Balefort is full on the weekend and not on the weekdays. Since it is summer time, it is busy with active players. Wait for the summer to be over and the game will be half empty or less. Limiting players and especially new players on communication is never a good idea.

New players are not aware that they require a lil loko pet to access Oktal. You have to put yourself in the shoes of a new player to understand that the game is complicated as is because of the number of levels. If I started PL without plat and no idea about the game and had to level from 1-105, I would quit the game in a few weeks. Also offers do not work any longer.

Only way a game can grow is with new members. They cant rely on existing players to continue to play and contribute. If you have 100 humans on an island and cant produce newborns, the society on that island will disappear. That is why they should focus on low levels.

Draebatad
07-22-2018, 03:33 PM
If you want to volunteer to be a guide and unofficial ambassador of Alterra to new players, go for it. That'd be commendable.

But the separate town of Oktal, the method to access for lower levels and level requirements to join it shouldn't be changed. Not everyone has the time or desire to mingle with the lower level crowd. Consider Oktal a VIP lounge if nothing else - a privilege that was earned either by level or by an inexpensive pet. It's great IMHO.

Jensmage
07-24-2018, 12:47 PM
If you want to volunteer to be a guide and unofficial ambassador of Alterra to new players, go for it. That'd be commendable.

But the separate town of Oktal, the method to access for lower levels and level requirements to join it shouldn't be changed. Not everyone has the time or desire to mingle with the lower level crowd. Consider Oktal a VIP lounge if nothing else - a privilege that was earned either by level or by an inexpensive pet. It's great IMHO.

Some players do have time and desire to mingle with the new players. Isolating new players from the players that have been playing for years is not a great idea. Lots players always complain about seeing the same players everyday.

The oldgen should have less influence on the game because they arent as active as they use to be. They are out of touch with the game because they have other priorities in life.

Bats
08-15-2018, 07:20 AM
Some great ideas!

1) update their game sites [see http://pocketlegends.com? it almost just has images and no content lately], 2) more fan sites [discord seems to be what this community likes], 3) and if they even could do it: have APIs for those that have guild/fan sites to expand community engagement.

Jensmage
08-15-2018, 06:40 PM
Maybe they should start with fixing pvp first instead of advertise. I’m done spending plat on my multiple accs. 800 or more buying plat per event that helps the game but the game doesn’t fix much.

Azitraozuci
08-16-2018, 03:41 AM
Maybe they should start with fixing pvp first instead of advertise. I’m done spending plat on my multiple accs. 800 or more buying plat per event that helps the game but the game doesn’t fix much.

You CHOOSE to spend YOUR money on the game, no one forces you. Your own fault for wasting platinum on things that will be irrelevant when a new cap comes

Jensmage
08-16-2018, 04:57 PM
You CHOOSE to spend YOUR money on the game, no one forces you. Your own fault for wasting platinum on things that will be irrelevant when a new cap comes

I choose to spend on what I enjoy. Actually most goes towards stocking new vanities. By the time the game is done, I think I will reach 1m. Special vanity for plat buyers?


Plat purchased:
1) 371,044
2) 251,000
3) 41,724
4) 64,209
5) 89,020