Bring back human faces or altered faces for next event

[Jensmage]

Almost everything has been colored or tweaked a little for event prizes except Human Faces. Maybe it’s time to introduce new faces. Improve human mage faces.

[Vlogs]

I concur

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[ababioka]

I agree with the last part. humania mage faces are just so... ugly

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[bglir]

Nahhhh....People want it rare and exclusive, like what they want in my thread.

[Idevour]

I find human faces ugly, but if they bring back human faces they should not be the same. They should be completely different if they are brought back.

[samuel_bonas]

Almost everything has been colored or tweaked a little for event prizes except Human Faces. Maybe it’s time to introduce new faces. Improve human mage faces.I would like to see a tiger face or bald eagle face

[Xyzther]

Could we add a bat face? I want to look like my favorite forumer :)

[Jensmage]

Could we add a bat face? I want to look like my favorite forumer :)


That will cost you 1m plat.

[Draebatad]

Cinco faces for all.

[Jensmage]

I find human faces ugly, but if they bring back human faces they should not be the same. They should be completely different if they are brought back.

LOL ask little by little until you receive what you want.

[Jensmage]

Rhino and fox human face? Wonder how that is going to look...

[Draebatad]

71 cap is over. Not happening. There are plenty of very cool new face suggestions for sts to work with. Example: https://www.spacetimestudios.com/showthread.php?395363-Face-suggestion!

[Suentous PO]

Being that many still in game were black market bought bring them back to p---off those that got away with it
BWUAhuaHaHa

[Fwend]

I don't mind if these faces are reintroduced, I wasn't a huge fan of the designs though, I preferred the animal cute faces.

Considering STS made all items on game to be traded and stashed on the 1st May 2017, this totally revolutionised PL.

Some say for the better others say for the worse, either way it did hit the Black market traders hard (those trading accounts and items on PL for real life money). But hasn't stopped them still from doing it.

The reintroduction of the level 80 esb for plat and level 80 forgotten green and yellow items did kill the value of these items on the black market.

I fully support this to again make life more difficult those black markets traders.

[ababioka]

I don't mind if these faces are reintroduced, I wasn't a huge fan of the designs though, I preferred the animal cute faces.

Considering STS made all items on game to be traded and stashed on the 1st May 2017, this totally revolutionised PL.

Some say for the better others say for the worse, either way it did hit the Black market traders hard (those trading accounts and items on PL for real life money). But hasn't stopped them still from doing it.

The reintroduction of the level 80 esb for plat and level 80 forgotten green and yellow items did kill the value of these items on the black market.

I fully support this to again hit those black markets traders hard.I personally disagree with this. I don't really like how sts reintroduced items that look identical to otherwise impressive items. I do however think that it was a wise decision to make all items tradeable. just don't kill the value of items. not fair to people who have those items. Just my opinion.

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[Mine AGK]

I don't mind if these faces are reintroduced, I wasn't a huge fan of the designs though, I preferred the animal cute faces.

Considering STS made all items on game to be traded and stashed on the 1st May 2017, this totally revolutionised PL.

Some say for the better others say for the worse, either way it did hit the Black market traders hard (those trading accounts and items on PL for real life money). But hasn't stopped them still from doing it.

The reintroduction of the level 80 esb for plat and level 80 forgotten green and yellow items did kill the value of these items on the black market.

I fully support this to again make life more difficult those black markets traders.

As much as i agree it did kill the black market, the black market is only getting other items that people will sell accounts for. What i mean by that is the event items from the vendor. Some arent tradable and are character locked so its more items that cant be traded or stashed. I think the faces should remain exclusive but bring in faces that have better stats and look even better.

[Jensmage]

Add gold loot and human face to the game...rip black market.

[Suentous PO]

I personally disagree with this. I don't really like how sts reintroduced items that look identical to otherwise impressive items. I do however think that it was a wise decision to make all items tradeable. just don't kill the value of items. not fair to people who have those items. Just my opinion.

"Tha value of items" doesn't apply here, can't sell faces.


As much as i agree it did kill the black market, the black market is only getting other items that people will sell accounts for. What i mean by that is the event items from the vendor. Some arent tradable and are character locked so its more items that cant be traded or stashed.

Such as faces.

[ababioka]

[QUOTE=Suentous PO;2860999]"Tha value of items" doesn't apply here, can't sell faces.


In some ways it does. If you had a level 71 green/yellow forgotten item and planned on keeping it, because of how rare and cool it is, it's unfair that now anybody who wants green/yellow forg can get it. I also don't think it does as much as you would think to the black market, because people will still pay irl money to buy in game items.

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[Jensmage]

[QUOTE=Suentous PO;2860999]"Tha value of items" doesn't apply here, can't sell faces.


In some ways it does. If you had a level 71 green/yellow forgotten item and planned on keeping it, because of how rare and cool it is, it's unfair that now anybody who wants green/yellow forg can get it. I also don't think it does as much as you would think to the black market, because people will still pay irl money to buy in game items.

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New items or recolored items being released do no devalue the og items.
The release of blue and gold mantle did not nerf the price of Mantle of Humania.
All these vanity sets being released do no reduce the black dragon set.

[ababioka]

[QUOTE=ababioka;2861001]


New items or recolored items being released do no devalue the og items.
The release of blue and gold mantle did not nerf the price of Mantle of Humania.
All these vanity sets being released do no reduce the black dragon set.yes, recolor do not affect the price of the og item. But in my forgotten example, they released the same item, different level. I have no idea how this affect level 71 green/yellow forg, but I do know it's not nearly as impressive now.

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[Suentous PO]

In some ways it does. If you had a level 71 green/yellow forgotten item and planned on keeping it, because of how rare and cool it is, it's unfair that now anybody who wants green/yellow forg can get it. I also don't think it does as much as you would think to the black market, because people will still pay irl money to buy in game items.

I was one that saw his collection devalued by tradability and I'm for this.
Some got away with a lot of black market and now the last exclusive thing thing is that face. They front like old school players, this makes their achievement hollow.
Good

I have a humania face btw

[burntoutdex]

Sue, please grace us with your presence in-game more </3

[Jensmage]

Waug is waiting for human asian face.

[Waug]

Waug is waiting for human asian face.

That have to be smexist face to justify me :p

[Yogaa]

Bringing human face is a good way to kill black market. Maybe 100 plat each face.


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[Suentous PO]

Sue, please grace us with your presence in-game more </3

Lulz, love you too ;P

[Waug]

As for the topic, bring back Black Dragon set too xD
Need someone to take the initiative and make a thread to ask for it? I'd be glad to do that :D

[Jensmage]

As for the topic, bring back Black Dragon set too xD
Need someone to take the initiative and make a thread to ask for it? I'd be glad to do that :D

You might have to name it, “Bring back an altered black set”. This current event is doing that. Looks like it.

[Waug]

You might have to name it, “Bring back an altered black set”. This current event is doing that. Looks like it.

Some are asking for original human face, if im not wrong, hence I propose return of Black drag set as it is :trapped:

[Fwend]

Some are asking for original human face, if im not wrong, hence I propose return of Black drag set as it is :trapped:

I don"t mind this suggestion at all, I still have one and other collectables on game.

I don't collect items that I used spend hours upon hours of time to achieve. The satisfaction of those hard earned items is somewhat marred by all those black market players who buy the items and show them off and be proud of something they didn't achieve.

Now I collect the items that I feel look beautiful to me, not what others feel is desired simply because its rare and expensive. All these new beautiful vanity rewards from the vendor Cinco and his team have introduced have truly made me happy.

The reintroduction copies , different levels of these items but having the exact same look, will impact directly the price and demand of those items on the black market.

If the item is saturated on game, those prized rarity items those black market sellers sell and make huge amount of money on will decrease.

Items such as:
- Black dragon vanity helm
- Black dragon vanity armor
- Dragonet's elite x-fire bow
- Elite Fire Axe of the Dragon
- Dragon's Breath elite staff
- Elite wave twister
- Elite marlin sword
- Monarch Mantel
- Overachievers helm
- Dingy Crown of Persistence
- Former Pvp champion shield (both black and white versions with the cross bones)

[Yogaa]

Can you buy black dragon vanity with gold? Yes you can
Can you buy humanian face with gold? No you can’t. Black market is against the TOS
So there is no point of bringing back black dragon vanity


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[bglir]

Can you buy black dragon vanity with gold? Yes you can
Can you buy humanian face with gold? No you can’t. Black market is against the TOS
So there is no point of bringing back black dragon vanity


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well alot account with humania face were bought and sold

[Yogaa]

well alot account with humania face were bought and sold

That’s why we should bring human face back to destroy black market.


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[bglir]

I don"t mind this suggestion at all, I still have one and other collectables on game.

The reintroduction copies , different levels of these items but having the exact same look, will impact directly the price and demand of those items on the black market.

If the item is saturated on game, those prized rarity items those black market sellers sell and make huge amount of money on will decrease.

Items such as:
- Black dragon vanity helm
- Black dragon vanity armor
- Dragonet's elite x-fire bow
- Elite Fire Axe of the Dragon
- Dragon's Breath elite staff
- Elite wave twister
- Elite marlin sword
- Monarch Mantel
- Overachievers helm
- Dingy Crown of Persistence
- Former Pvp champion shield (both black and white versions with the cross bones)




Alot of new vanitys are already standby for Black Market, Making those white Lighning sets, Black Gold Sets, and most of those myxx loot vanity a rare drop.
They are sold for ridiculous Price and only way the person who badly wants it is buying at Black Market.

[Fwend]

I never thought of that, personally I have no desire to get the set unless I find it pretty.

If I can't afford it, I go without it, it is a need and not a want. It is very extreme to resort to the black market just for an item you desire, I don't understand the thought behind it. I'll rather use my money on Plat that supports the game and farm.

I find the rewards of the gold farming maps helps us immensely, with the addition of the 300% gold loot on end game amulets. If you have time and plat you can become gold rich in from one event, of course with the right class, level, gear etc.

[Waug]

I don"t mind this suggestion at all, I still have one and other collectables on game.

I don't collect items that I used spend hours upon hours of time to achieve. The satisfaction of those hard earned items is somewhat marred by all those black market players who buy the items and show them off and be proud of something they didn't achieve.

Now I collect the items that I feel look beautiful to me, not what others feel is desired simply because its rare and expensive. All these new beautiful vanity rewards from the vendor Cinco and his team have introduced have truly made me happy.

The reintroduction copies , different levels of these items but having the exact same look, will impact directly the price and demand of those items on the black market.

If the item is saturated on game, those prized rarity items those black market sellers sell and make huge amount of money on will decrease.

Items such as:
- Black dragon vanity helm
- Black dragon vanity armor
- Dragonet's elite x-fire bow
- Elite Fire Axe of the Dragon
- Dragon's Breath elite staff
- Elite wave twister
- Elite marlin sword
- Monarch Mantel
- Overachievers helm
- Dingy Crown of Persistence
- Former Pvp champion shield (both black and white versions with the cross bones)


Can you buy black dragon vanity with gold? Yes you can
Can you buy humanian face with gold? No you can’t. Black market is against the TOS
So there is no point of bringing back black dragon vanity


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Just saying of making a thread about that made an wave, if someone makes a thread and ppl get to know that, gonna create A HUGE WAVE just really huge wave of ppl complain against these items being brought back, that was my purpose to show.

You don't want that, it's as simple as that not because the concern about black marketing rather to preserve your valued items from being de-valued. Humanian face is such rare that support team can easily diagnose such extremely small cases, just report suspected person.

As for black market, ppl still can buy account with name/fame/high kdr etc etc "can you buy those with gold?" how to stop the black marketing of that? making account tadable with gold/plat? the next movement?

[Yogaa]

Just saying of making a thread about that made an wave, if someone makes a thread and ppl get to know that, gonna create A HUGE WAVE just really huge wave of ppl complain against these items being brought back, that's my purpose.

You don't want that, it's as simple as that not because the concern about black marketing. Humanian face is such rare that support team can easily diagnose such extremely small cases, just report suspected person.

As for black market, ppl still can buy account with name/fame/high kdr etc etc "can you buy those with gold? how to stop the black marketing of that? making account tadable with gold/plat? the next movement?

Players have money to spent on the game but they can’t get humanian face with platinum or gold now. So what most of them do is black market since they don’t have the way how to get human face. So is there any profit for STS with black markets going? No.
If they bring back human face will STS get a huge profit from it? Yes huge money.
100, 200 or 500 plat each face? No problem players will spent their money on things that they really want. Just provide them an acces to get human face if not they will doing black market forever.


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[Waug]

Players have money to spent on the game but they can’t get humanian face with platinum or gold now. So what most of them do is black market since they don’t have the way how to get human face. So is there any profit for STS with black markets going? No.
If they bring back human face will STS get a huge profit from it? Yes huge money.
100, 200 or 500 plat each face? No problem players will spent their money on things that they really want. Just provide them an acces to get human face if not they will doing black market forever.


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See, ppl might spend lots money, mark my word, lots money because it's being RARE & OLD not being something beautiful rather mostly these faces were criticized for being ugly back then but people are not gonna spend fraction of that money to buy it, if it get available again, no where near. As already said, people gonna still buy accs for other purposes, just because they can't get it, so that's not a good logic.

To get such money (ur calculated money), sts will have to sell those faces in black market or auction based, like top 3 bidder get the face.

[Yogaa]

We don’t talk the past we talk about now and the future of this game. Now see what this thread say? Players want human face... they have money and super ready to get some platinum to buy human face...
This thread is here because players don’t have acces to get this face...
Black market is the only way...
Do you remember that they have money? And now you gonna stop them to spent their money on this game??

Just remember players have money and don’t make it hard for them to get something that they really want.




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[Waug]

We don’t talk the past we talk about now and the future of this game. Now see what this thread say? Players want human face... they have money and super ready to get some platinum to buy human face...
Yes lets not talk about past, people want all rare vanities including Black dragon set, they have money and super ready to get some platinum to buy those old items


This thread is here because players don’t have acces to get this face...
Yes there can be alot threads about how players dont have access to FARM many many rare items.


Black market is the only way...
Yes black market is the only way to get old accounts still with/without human faces but name/fame high kdr etc


Do you remember that they have money? And now you gonna stop them to spent their money on this game??
Yes do you know they have money and they spend money to get all sorta old and new vanities, how you gonna stop them from spent their money and get all new vanities and all old rare vanities as well??


Just remember players have money and don’t make it hard for them to get something that they really want.
Yes remember players have money and don't make it hard for them to get SOMETHING & everything that they really want.
See how I agree with you, that's how started my post in this thread make everything old and rare farmable, ULTIMATELY this is the truth-

Everyone wants everything, they want to spend money for it, they want it to be farm-able same way it was back then. What's the debate about?

[Yogaa]

Yes lets not talk about past, people want all rare vanities including Black dragon set, they have money and super ready to get some platinum to buy those old items


Yes there can be alot threads about how players dont have access to FARM many many rare items.


Yes black market is the only way to get old accounts still with/without human faces but name/fame high kdr etc


Yes do you know they have money and they spend money to get all sorta old and new vanities, how you gonna stop them from spent their money and get all new vanities and all old rare vanities as well??


Yes remember players have money and don't make it hard for them to get SOMETHING & everything that they really want.
See how I agree with you, that's how started my post in this thread make everything old and rare farmable, ULTIMATELY this is the truth-

Everyone wants everything, they want to spend money for it, they want it to be farm-able same way it was back then. What's the debate about?




Can players get black dragon now?
Yes they can just buy some pure stat and sell it. they will make gold to get black dragon vanity

Can players get human face now?
No they CANT there is no way for it but there is a way( black market) that is against the TOS

Please use your brain , you can get black dragon with gold or plat(buy some pure stat and sell it). But human face??? NO, except Black market....

Sts, community asked for something that they want. We have money please provide your lovely players a way to get this human face. I believe both community and sts will be happy with it


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[Waug]

Can players get black dragon now?
Yes they can just buy some pure stat and sell it. they will make gold to get black dragon vanity

Can players get human face now?
No they CANT there is no way for it but there is a way( black market) that is against the TOS

Please use your brain , you can get black dragon with gold or plat(buy some pure stat and sell it). But human face??? NO, except Black market....

Sts, community asked for something that they want. We have money please provide your lovely players a way to get this human face. I believe both community and sts will be happy with it


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There's only one disagreement at one small area really small.
You want human face to be back but not other rare things. That's hypocritical, irony, whatever you call it because you don't have human face so you want it to be back but you pose other valuable old things that you don't want to get devalued. That's the real deal, you don't talk for sts or you don't talk for the game as you tried to describe it rather you talk for yourself.

Where's the honesty my friend? Only one thing is lacking in your whole argument, that's honesty. Rest of course in the hand of cinco and as everything already said/justified, no point of keep saying repetitive things, Good Luck.

[Yogaa]

There's only one disagreement at one small area really small.
You want human face to be back but not other rare things. That's hypocritical, irony, whatever you call it because you don't have human face so you want it to be back but you pose other valuable old things that you don't want to get devalued. That's the real deal, you don't talk for sts or you don't talk for the game as you tried to describe it rather you talk for yourself.

Where's the honesty my friend? Only one thing is lacking in your whole argument, that's honesty. Rest of course in the hand of cinco and as everything already said/justified, no point of keep saying repetitive things, Good Luck.

Ok why I don’t want black dragon or old items?
I have 2 questions

1. can players get black dragon now?How?

2. can players get human face now? How?

I will help you answer question number 1

Answer
1. Yes players can get black dragon using gold that you can get from farming and if you have money you can sell items that cost platinum like traceable vanity, pure stat etc after that you can get some gold and buy those black dragon.

2. Please answer my question here
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“Black dragon is tradeable and human face isn’t tradeable both are different things.”

I hope you answer that question if you smart enough to differ things that tradeable and which isn’t.

Or this is too much for you



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[Jensmage]

Was obvious we will receive at least 4-7 players with human faces to go against the thread. That is why it was suggested to STS to release updated faces instead of releasing OG human faces. The many out way the few. We also don’t want to upset the few so we requested updated faces instead of OG faces.

[Waug]

Or this is too much for you


Bro this is ain't too much, this IS REPETITIVE that what I already said.

You saying "can or can't get", I didn't say "can't get old rare vanties" rather I always said and used the term "devalued".

You're asking that should we can get human face back?
I'm saying "why not" BUT make old rare vanities make available again too.
What's your problem? why the double standard?

Saying again, people still urge to black market buy accounts for name / fame / social staus /high KD etc etc it's not gonna be the end of black marketing as you're trying to project.
On the other hands, human face are so rare that support will have to deal with very occasional cases to deal with reporting extreme small cases.

[Waug]

Was obvious we will receive at least 4-7 players with human faces to go against the thread. .

It is obvious that lots of stockers of old rare vanities will gonna get upset about old vanities getting back.

Ya all saying that set "one bird" free from the cage.
I'm saying please stop the double standard and set "every bird" free from cage. I'm NOT against birds getting freed.

NO DOUBLE STANDARD PLS.

[Absolize]

I would like to see new human faces but keep the old ones exclusive.. and I don’t have human face so I’m not being biased.

[Jensmage]

Maybe we will see Human Faces available in the next event. Set them at 500 plat/face and lower the scoring pts so players can buy multiple faces :p

[xzLegendszx]

Maybe we will see Human Faces available in the next event. Set them at 500 plat/face and lower the scoring pts so players can buy multiple faces :pHell no.

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[Waug]

Maybe we will see Human Faces available in the next event. Set them at 500 plat/face and lower the scoring pts so players can buy multiple faces :p

Rather make human faces tradable so that I can make few billions from it :p

[Yogaa]

Rather make human faces tradable so that I can make few billions from it :p

Yes Billions of gold for some players.
What if sts brings it back? Money will go to sts company:)



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[Jensmage]

Over the years of the game, I was offered 3x bird human face accs for sale. Still don’t have one but lots of players probably bought an acc with a human face.

[Waug]

Yes Billions of gold for some players.
What if sts brings it back? Money will go to sts company:)



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I wish faces were a money-maker. They're not. And they're a ton of effort :-(

Guess what, vanities are. If u really think about sts, you would agree on og vanity returns too XD


Over the years of the game, I was offered 3x bird human face accs for sale. Still don’t have one but lots of players probably bought an acc with a human face.

I was offered a lollipop to hit someone when I was a kid, I was offered not to hit someone in pl arena, guess what? I denied both XD

[Jensmage]

Faces aren't much money maker but it is part of a game that contribute to the fun of the game. The fun of the game is what makes people play the game and spend plat.

[Absolize]

Just a bad idea imo, a lot got remade already but not completely original. So why would the OG human faces come back? Doesn’t make much sense.

[xzLegendszx]

If faces comeback i would actually pay money to PL xd.

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[Benbirdy]

Yeah humania faces, and put BD armor and humania mantle in plat store too plz. But make them like 10k plat. Id buy a few :)

[Waug]

Why can't I thank myself, such goose-bumping logical and honest replies and same way honest to everyone doesn't matter who was the opponent to argue with.
Hats off to u MR waug, proud of u :)