Please Devs, read it!

[Dingodine]

I know that some players will say that I'm just complaining, but this is something that I need to do...

Devs, farm in Hydra Bog is completely unfair and frustrating. I'm saying this because my class is completely worthless, sometimes I feel like I'm a nuisance, because every time 2 war are in the same run Rogues and some mages just leave the map.

Rogues can make or together and farm 10M per day easily, while me, with 550gl, farm only 2M per day if I play A LOT in random runs cause anyone want to invite a warrior for pt, even if he have a good gear...
Some of my friends created Rogues just to farm!

SAD, BUT TRUE!!


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Hope you can fix this, and make farming good and fair for everyone!

[Leu]

Relax xD idk why are u so surprised. It's always been like that since maus. Just 1 tank. Believe me, am a tank as well and ik what u mean. Plus 2m a day ain't bad and if you saying that rogues are getting 10M per day (which may be true) look at their gear prices lol, the rogue gears are insane these days even the jewels
You can always farm maus/Esg is you want xd ik it doesn't give as much gold but it's not too bad. I think you just need to relax a little.
You may as well consider making a rogue so that u can see the prices of their gears urself compared to our tank gears.


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[Dex Putra]

Relax xD idk why are u so surprised. It's always been like that since maus. Just 1 tank. Believe me, am a tank as well and ik what u mean. Plus 2m a day ain't bad and if you saying that rogues are getting 10M per day (which may be true) look at their gear prices lol, the rogue gears are insane these days even the jewels
You can always farm maus/Esg is you want xd ik it doesn't give as much gold but it's not too bad. I think you just need to relax a little.
You may as well consider making a rogue so that u can see the prices of their gears urself compared to our tank gears.


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[MiruZetu]

Dear fren all rouge don't have gl like ur n cant earn 10m per day like u said.... I earn only 1-2m per day with 300gl.
U said dev to make gold loot fair which i cant see reason in ur.. All i see is make ur class better here.. ty
Peace

[Sometacoz]

It's not just rogues who leave sometimes in random I have seen tanks and mages leave after comparing stats. Seems to me everyone is selfish. If u know "qua" he is a mage who was complaining about not getting a pt by rogues but when I did he came and then left saying that he wanted us to have 6-9k dps otherwise he won't play. Imo everyone wants quick gold and rich people are arrogant we just have to keep up with it. Now if u r a tank it's quite complex indeed. U shud try to aim to join a rogue pt with a slot but just my advice 5k dps is good enough for rogues don't be selfish like qua and try to make friends with them. I have been in many rogue pts where we invited a warrior for heal when going to head and it's useful. So invite sensible friends that wud be glad to have u.
Ign: sometacoz

[Crocodile]

The funniest thing is there always mage and warrior being jerk and rude. They say bad things so others get out of the map. LOL :applause: :applause:
My reminder to warriors and mages are out there, don't be so arrogant if you unable to defeat the boss alone.
To me these type of people are just a group of useless people who do not believe in themselves and in my opinion that rogues is overrated atm

[Marosok]

5 - 10m is reachable with 600gl, more likely approx 5m unless you are mad farmer (dont eat, dont sleep).

P.S: Did that warrior in your guild found rogue he wanted for pt? :D
P.S 2: We had 1 week long 2x xp event (worked with completing quests), everyone had chance to create not only 1, but 2,3 rogues with only daily quests.
P.S 3: I agree with Leu "Rogue farm more = rogue cost more". "War farm less = cost less".

[eleasah]

Idk, i think maybe pple getting too greedy?

I run Hydra with everyone. For me it doesnt matter one min or 3. I run not for lb. But iam only a mage;-)

Maybe pple should look more at own stats then others or gl.

Map is doable with all classes.

Atm iam a bit feed up see how often pple think rogues makes millions after millions a day. Maybe sts should make Hydra map only one free entrance per day like nightmare. .

Maybe this would stop this crazy greedy farming gold thing

[Susanne]

I just go there with anyone and don't have a problem. All you moaners aren't playing for fun you're just playing for gold. Hydra should be called Hydragate with all the controversy it's causing and I will be glad when the gold drops are nerfed. Goldfever is what a lot of you have and by the way..I don't get millions a day because I'm not stupid enough to keep running the same map over and over and wasting precious real life time. A game should be enjoyed and not become a chore.

[hunterxhunter44]

Relax xD idk why are u so surprised. It's always been like that since maus. Just 1 tank. Believe me, am a tank as well and ik what u mean. Plus 2m a day ain't bad and if you saying that rogues are getting 10M per day (which may be true) look at their gear prices lol, the rogue gears are insane these days even the jewels
You can always farm maus/Esg is you want xd ik it doesn't give as much gold but it's not too bad. I think you just need to relax a little.
You may as well consider making a rogue so that u can see the prices of their gears urself compared to our tank gears.


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true, esg is way better, op now all gears of rouge :D

[PostNoob]

Repeating the same thing in a dozen threads isnt going to do anything to help the cause. im sure after all the whining thats been going on, they have made a decision and are working on it.

[Jhoncat]

I agree with him i see mages with lower stats than me insult me because i don´t have a dragon staff, and the ridiculous part when atacking hydra in begin of battle and do low damage because everyone is spread up they rage quit and leave alone.

[Mekkatorque]

remove all thats all.

[eleasah]

Its crazy, from maybe 100 runs!i did hydra only a few pple left map.

And i use all weps i have. Sometimes drag, sometines balanced or tainted. Only horror work not well on hydra.

Do anyone really think pple have a need to stay in map? If i join random, no matter what map, i always count someone will leave. Maybe dc, mother want ending game, baby awake or dont like team, Guys, it is like it is.

Its only a game. Not ur life;-)

[it's.just.sua]

I just go there with anyone and don't have a problem. All you moaners aren't playing for fun you're just playing for gold. Hydra should be called Hydragate with all the controversy it's causing and I will be glad when the gold drops are nerfed. Goldfever is what a lot of you have and by the way..I don't get millions a day because I'm not stupid enough to keep running the same map over and over and wasting precious real life time. A game should be enjoyed and not become a chore.

Amen :P



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[Soldiierx]

Maybe because tanks and mages hope for 1rog in their team (random)...If ur a rog u just go and solo it..:) if mage could be as fast as rog or even tank could do dmg too there would be no problem....

[Jairus980]

Maybe because tanks and mages hope for 1rog in their team (random)...If ur a rog u just go and solo it..:) if mage could be as fast as rog or even tank could do dmg too there would be no problem....

Everyone think tanks has no damage or useless but no one has ever thought that tank have rage ultimate.

[Noni]

Hmm...It is interesting to see all the selective memory loss on these forums. Devs have already announced hydra gold nerf and yet this nonsense still continues. I am going to get a lot of hate for what I am about to say, but if everyone here is hell-bent on ruining the fun for everyone else, then it is time some facts were discussed here.

For a long time, mages dominated mausoleum and made a lot of gold due to broken procs. They also became rogues at bosses due to these procs. However, there was another type of farming where they had an advantage over rogues, something that tanks have been dominating for years now and made millons because of it.

I am sure everyone knows what I am talking about...jewel farming. Other than when jewel farming was initially launched and rogues were able to make some gold doing it, warriors and mages were the ones who benefited from it for YEARS. Main thing was, all they needed was glint aegis/ flame staff and magma to be able to farm jewels. I know mages aren’t that good compared to warriors anymore after flame staff fix, but why did nobody feel sorry for rogues all this time? Why didn’t some tank or mage come here and start a thread “we are getting rich farming jewels and poor rogues are left out”.

Why don’t tanks talk about jewel farming when all this is being discussed? Why didn’t mages ever bother mentioning it when they were busy making gold by farming maus AND jewels both? A new raid map is added where rogues have an advantage and everyone now starts throwing tantrums.

Rogue gear has always been the most expensive, for that a lot more gold is needed compared to other classes. Also, not all rogues are doing 30 secs runs in hydra. Try running with 2-2.5k dmg rogues with low hp and bad pets. Mages who are properly geared for 71 do these raids way faster. Good tanks make runs easier in any map. Since the focus here is gold making, well...there is always jewel farming for warriors. Let’s talk about that too and not treat it like a dirty little secret :p

Do we still need to talk about rogues and hydra? Just wait for the gold nerf while you guys read the novel I just typed for you.

[Thewolfbull]

Everyone think tanks has no damage or useless but no one has ever thought that tank have rage ultimate.
Ult is useless in raids the boss is dead long before it charges.

[Jairus980]

Ult is useless in raids the boss is dead long before it charges.

That doesn't mean tank is useless now. We have ultimate

[QuaseT]

It's not just rogues who leave sometimes in random I have seen tanks and mages leave after comparing stats. Seems to me everyone is selfish. If u know "qua" he is a mage who was complaining about not getting a pt by rogues but when I did he came and then left saying that he wanted us to have 6-9k dps otherwise he won't play. Imo everyone wants quick gold and rich people are arrogant we just have to keep up with it. Now if u r a tank it's quite complex indeed. U shud try to aim to join a rogue pt with a slot but just my advice 5k dps is good enough for rogues don't be selfish like qua and try to make friends with them. I have been in many rogue pts where we invited a warrior for heal when going to head and it's useful. So invite sensible friends that wud be glad to have u.
Ign: sometacozThats just normal play. I have paid a lot for my gear and dont like to play with rogues who are undergeared just because the class is better. In random i just leave if I think we wont be able to kill the boss or when i get an invite. I have never said that i wont play with them, I just avoid players (of all classes) to invite if they have low gear. If another pt leader inv them its fine for me.
Its always been like that, im not playing to carry anyone through maps neither do they carry me. Please stop spreading lies. If u have any problems with me please talk to me privatly. ~Qua

[Oakmaiden]

Grabs the popcorn!

[Noni]

Sooooooooo I just mentioned the elephant in the room and nobody wants to talk about it as expected. Let’s discuss mages/ tanks and their jewel farming that went on for years and is still going on, yet hydra gold will be nerfed soon.

Mages and warriors don’t have a high enough dodge to avoid that issue :p

@oakmaiden share share!

[plunkx]

Oops shouldn't have mentioned jewel farming [emoji28] but let's talk about it


How many jewels you guys were getting again in 15mins all 3main elixirs? 450 or something? Oh I can't remember. Maybe I'm suffering from concussion of Champions League finale when Ramos tackled it real bad xd how much gold it was weekly again? Damn it's getting harder to remember it. Ah 20m around through jewel farming weekly. But I'm pretty sure our devs love equality so as they haven't actually fixed old stuff of other classes , Same way they won't fix a level 46 aegis which gives around 450 jewels in 15mins elixirs :D I believe in them <3 our old op aegis will remain on top and will keep making tanks great again . Ahahahaahahahahhaha their hydra Will be fixed but who cares about it as long we can keep farming jewels with level 46 aegis, it's all good [emoji48][emoji48][emoji48][emoji48][emoji48][emoji48][emoji48][emoji48]

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[championboost]

Stop complaining. Im officially announcing that gold drop will be neefed. 100% Really really soon

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[Obooo]

Sympathy. After i noticed this imbalanced part of the game, and after i noticed that STS may not want to fix it in short time for some reason, i decided to create a new rogue character. Now it is lvl 67 only in a few days, much easier than expected, thanks to the new 2exp event. So, a practical solution might be start a new char, which is faster than complaining here. And, it is new fun to play the game differently. Sorry about my straightforward, but just a practical suggestion.

[deathhbringer]

If any dev is reading this please consider increasing the crafting inventory slots 500 is not enough when farming jewels fills up too quick in all alts

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[Azerothraven]

I am a rogue with some decent stats 6k armoir 9k health and 7.6k dps.

I always run with at least another rogue and 2 mages or war. Fast timing isn't everything

[plunkx]

If any dev is reading this please consider increasing the crafting inventory slots 500 is not enough when farming jewels fills up too quick in all alts

Sent from my SM-J210F using TapatalkYa man same I think :( I think it should be of 1000 and they should also do something with crafting. I don't like to wait so many hours to keep crafting jewels and keep changing toons just to craft them [emoji31][emoji24] if there will be quick crafting then I can craft more finesse jewels and keep selling them faster to all these rogues at expensive price [emoji178][emoji177] I see so much gold coming if this happens [emoji857][emoji857][emoji857][emoji857][emoji857]

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[Noni]

Rogues making 600k +/ hr after spending millions on levelling up and getting new gear seems to be the issue here. Aren’t tanks making more than that in less than 30mins of farming jewels and selling finesse jewels for insane prices to these rogues? I see a lot of tanks bragging in-game about it. None of us complained about that on forums.

Many of those mages who initially complained about hydra are now getting regularly invited and happily farming there. They just made a few changes. Qua and deathhbringer are both such mages.

What is the point of expansion, levelling up, getting new items, spending plat/gold on awakening gold loot, adding gold loot to helm and armour and then some people continuously complaining resulting in all these nerfs...

We should have just stayed 66 and farmed maus for gold then. There was no need for 71, new maps, new items or any of these new gold loot awakening associated events and gear changes.

[Thewolfbull]

Hmm...It is interesting to see all the selective memory loss on these forums. Devs have already announced hydra gold nerf and yet this nonsense still continues. I am going to get a lot of hate for what I am about to say, but if everyone here is hell-bent on ruining the fun for everyone else, then it is time some facts were discussed here.

For a long time, mages dominated mausoleum and made a lot of gold due to broken procs. They also became rogues at bosses due to these procs. However, there was another type of farming where they had an advantage over rogues, something that tanks have been dominating for years now and made millons because of it.

I am sure everyone knows what I am talking about...jewel farming. Other than when jewel farming was initially launched and rogues were able to make some gold doing it, warriors and mages were the ones who benefited from it for YEARS. Main thing was, all they needed was glint aegis/ flame staff and magma to be able to farm jewels. I know mages aren’t that good compared to warriors anymore after flame staff fix, but why did nobody feel sorry for rogues all this time? Why didn’t some tank or mage come here and start a thread “we are getting rich farming jewels and poor rogues are left out”.

Why don’t tanks talk about jewel farming when all this is being discussed? Why didn’t mages ever bother mentioning it when they were busy making gold by farming maus AND jewels both? A new raid map is added where rogues have an advantage and everyone now starts throwing tantrums.

Rogue gear has always been the most expensive, for that a lot more gold is needed compared to other classes. Also, not all rogues are doing 30 secs runs in hydra. Try running with 2-2.5k dmg rogues with low hp and bad pets. Mages who are properly geared for 71 do these raids way faster. Good tanks make runs easier in any map. Since the focus here is gold making, well...there is always jewel farming for warriors. Let’s talk about that too and not treat it like a dirty little secret :p

Do we still need to talk about rogues and hydra? Just wait for the gold nerf while you guys read the novel I just typed for you.

I've farmed jewels on all classes there really isn't much difference it's all about luck and ping for remaps. try drag blades on low level rogue with str build :) jewel farming hasn't been good for a while now mauso was always better gold with right party

[Noni]

Let’s not sugarcoat things here. Rogues couldn’t compete with mages and tanks when it came to jewel farming and still can’t.

Mages were as good as tanks after they could reach m1 and use their hex staff + magma there, before the fix. Many people made tank alts just to jewel farm, because all they needed was one specific weapon and a pet. It is that glint aegis proc + magma AA combo that makes jewels rain. Nothing to do with luck. Some other weapons and pets are good too, but aegis and magma win.

You are a tank, I am sure you know all this already.

[Dex Putra]

thread close hydra no more loot gold RIP rogue

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[scarysmerf]

None of that matters anymore since they just took away the gold loot from Hydra.i don't get it first Hydra had little gl then STS adds more gl then people complain it's too much gl so now they take that away too so they added more artifact to the loot but with 00.1% it's not like it makes up for the lost gl.

[Bundlos]

Are you kidding me? I am a rogue and despite gold loot I never made 10m in a day. Am I a caveman? Was I living under a rock? I wonder

[Obooo]

What should i do with my newly built rogue following the 2xexp instruction? 20-30 m gold all spent on it... Years of effort wasted. Now i see it is a gold sink, but too late, hahaha.

[MasterP]

Hmm...It is interesting to see all the selective memory loss on these forums. Devs have already announced hydra gold nerf and yet this nonsense still continues. I am going to get a lot of hate for what I am about to say, but if everyone here is hell-bent on ruining the fun for everyone else, then it is time some facts were discussed here.

For a long time, mages dominated mausoleum and made a lot of gold due to broken procs. They also became rogues at bosses due to these procs. However, there was another type of farming where they had an advantage over rogues, something that tanks have been dominating for years now and made millons because of it.

I am sure everyone knows what I am talking about...jewel farming. Other than when jewel farming was initially launched and rogues were able to make some gold doing it, warriors and mages were the ones who benefited from it for YEARS. Main thing was, all they needed was glint aegis/ flame staff and magma to be able to farm jewels. I know mages aren’t that good compared to warriors anymore after flame staff fix, but why did nobody feel sorry for rogues all this time? Why didn’t some tank or mage come here and start a thread “we are getting rich farming jewels and poor rogues are left out”.

Why don’t tanks talk about jewel farming when all this is being discussed? Why didn’t mages ever bother mentioning it when they were busy making gold by farming maus AND jewels both? A new raid map is added where rogues have an advantage and everyone now starts throwing tantrums.

Rogue gear has always been the most expensive, for that a lot more gold is needed compared to other classes. Also, not all rogues are doing 30 secs runs in hydra. Try running with 2-2.5k dmg rogues with low hp and bad pets. Mages who are properly geared for 71 do these raids way faster. Good tanks make runs easier in any map. Since the focus here is gold making, well...there is always jewel farming for warriors. Let’s talk about that too and not treat it like a dirty little secret :p

Do we still need to talk about rogues and hydra? Just wait for the gold nerf while you guys read the novel I just typed for you.

Do you know that jewel farming isn't very profitable? It used to be a few years back before sts limited inventory's from going over the limit(500) and before they fixed the issue of mobs getting bugged in maps (enabling people to continuously hit the mobs without them dying and without the person leaving the map) You could pretty much get 10000/500 inventory of jewels and any class could do it. Its pretty slow and boring to farm jewels at the moment. So what secret you are talking about im not sure. Because there are tons of people who play mage and rogue who have made a lower level tank just to farm jewels. Or have a friend who farms jewels for them. But a secret it is not. Seems like this is a "Stop hating on rogues, lets spill the beans on other classes" type of childish post. When in truth there isn't any beans to spill as rogues and mages have benefited from jewel farming.

But speaking from a mature point and yes we still need to talk about Rogues as they are way to powerful at the moment. You pretty much don't need a warrior/mage to run any map now days, besides Nightmare Raid(and who runs that anyway? unless for the dream weapon ap) With Spirit daggers, tanks aren't needed in mausoleum as the dagger proc pulls mobs together. Rogues being insanley op in a group of 4 (wiping out mobs with charged aim then SSS). This needs to be addressed. The damage output is simply too high for mages/warriors to be worth using.

Im not too bothered about the gold loot being removed, that was becoming ridiculous.

*Wonders how people get rich when they barely farm*
*shifty eyes*
*must be plat users*
*smirks*

[Noni]

Did you actually try to understand what I said or just did the shifty eyes and smirking?

Jewel farming was more profitable for mages and tanks. They made a lot of gold through it. Nobody sat on forums all day to whine about it. Show me even one post from some rogue who complained for days, saying nerf it for tanks and mages because we can’t farm jewels like them.

There is no secret. I am talking about how the use of glint aegis along with magma still makes jewel farming so profitable for tanks. It was the same for mages with hex staff and magma, although most of my mage friends say it is not that good after hex nerf. Many jewel farming tanks made millions by selling finesse jewels just recently to all these hydra rogues. Do we not play the same game? Have you not noticed the prices of finesse jewels skyrocketing? Yet there were no tantrums thrown about that.

If it is not profitable for you, then you must be doing something wrong. Many warriors I know still consider it their main gold maker.

I buy plat and will still make gold whether I farm or not, whether hydra gives gold or not. But that is not the point here. This thread was another crying session about hydra and rogues. That is fixed now. People should just relax and have some fun for a change.

Enjoy :p

[Ucamaeben]

I think comparing gold loot and jewel farming is like comparing apples to oranges. Here’s the difference.

Jewels still need to be listed in CS, which means that people have to want them. It’s based on supply and demand. Jewels will always get cheaper because we can now remove them from items and re-socket them.

Gold loot is purely income. Gold is used to buy gems, gems are not a form of currency.

I don’t think this is a good comparison.

[PostNoob]

I think comparing gold loot and jewel farming is like comparing apples to oranges. Here’s the difference.

Jewels still need to be listed in CS, which means that people have to want them. It’s based on supply and demand. Jewels will always get cheaper because we can now remove them from items and re-socket them.

Gold loot is purely income. Gold is used to buy gems, gems are not a form of currency.

I don’t think this is a good comparison.

I buy my jewels directly from the farmer. Anything thay can be bartered is a form of currency.

[Susanne]

I think the point here is that we rogues didn't complain when warriors and mages were making lots of gold and lording it over us. We just took it. Let's clear the air here, some of you warriors and mages..not all, are rubbing their hands and laughing at what's happened. No sympathy, just sly comments and smirking in some instances. Rogues have always had to pay over the odds for gear, jewels and even vanities and when we got a bit of luck, well we all know what happened. I'm not a serious hardcore player, I don't have the time, but I can understand why rogues feel like they have been unfairly treated. This Hydra has brought the worse out in some people, why some of you even raced to make a rogue and get it capped and were even given a double XP event to help you on your way. Now that is funny but I'm not sniggering at those who did that..well not much anyway. 😔

[Noni]

Apples and oranges indeed!!!

On one hand, we have a farming method that requires...lvl 46, mythic aegis, magma and a few jewel elixirs and you can then start off your jewel business( solo). On the other hand, we have a farming method that requires...lvl 71,very good stats to be able to kill the boss in 1 min or so, gear and awakenings needed for those stats, good jewels needed, gold loot sets or items with gold loot awakenings needed, good party with similarly geared ppl needed and I am not even talking about rogues here. To run it as a rogue you had to spend 3 x more.

Not everyone was making 1-2m per hour there. Not everyone uses 600% + gold loot. Before someone starts foaming at the mouth again, I don’t use that sort of gold loot buff or gold loot sets. Never made that much farming hydra or maus. I always prefer having good stats with some gold loot and don’t bother getting 2 different sets and switching.

71 raids are not giving gold now but jewel farming is still very profitable for tanks. As to the currency thing being mentioned, someone already explained that ^_^

[Thewolfbull]

Apples and oranges indeed!!!

On one hand, we have a farming method that requires...lvl 46, mythic aegis, magma and a few jewel elixirs and you can then start off your jewel business( solo). On the other hand, we have a farming method that requires...lvl 71,very good stats to be able to kill the boss in 1 min or so, gear and awakenings needed for those stats, good jewels needed, gold loot sets or items with gold loot awakenings needed, good party with similarly geared ppl needed and I am not even talking about rogues here. To run it as a rogue you had to spend 3 x more.

Not everyone was making 1-2m per hour there. Not everyone uses 600% + gold loot. Before someone starts foaming at the mouth again, I don’t use that sort of gold loot buff or gold loot sets. Never made that much farming hydra or maus. I always prefer having good stats with some gold loot and don’t bother getting 2 different sets and switching.

71 raids are not giving gold now but jewel farming is still very profitable for tanks. As to the currency thing being mentioned, someone already explained that ^_^

Nerf jewel farming for tank and everyone will switch to rogue with lvl 46 drag blades str build nature jewels and trap/sss/nox/rs skills same thing dif class xD i think you should give rogue another try for jewel farming compare it to how many tank gets its the same if you know how :p rogue/tank gets 2.7 excellent jewels mind/fury/finesse worth per 15min elix could be more with op ping but thats what i used to get as tank and as rogue at lvl 61 (i never did the mage in mauso 1 thing so idk if that was much better)
the main thing for jewel farming isnt the farming itself but the crafting thats what takes all the time and you will need atleast 30 characters with good inventory to craft these jewels everyday. Lix is 15 mins but the jewel takes a few days to get high enough tier and ready to sell. I made notes on all this and tried all classes and dif gear types back when jewel farm was best way to make gold tank just isn't way better like you say. All classes can get the same amount, the strategy is just different :) that's why rogues didn't complain about it.

[Maketaca]

Instead of nerf gold, they removed gold from hydra and ppl still complain haizzz.