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VenomSet
11-23-2018, 10:03 AM
Hi,

while running arena 10000x during cake event, I got nostalgia to the times back in 2015 (was it 2015 I can’t remember) when arena launched and the runs were so ridiculously hard for me but it was also so fun.

The problem now is bosses aren’t scaled meaning a rogue party can 1 shot every boss.
The fireworks when looting a Planar arena chest are flashy but serve no real purpose as they decreased the vial loot chance to 0,000001% (I think I’m not even overdramatizing this one)
Hint: This is not going to be a thread to increase vial loot chance, this is another topic.


I don’t know about you but I would greatly appreciate a new arena.
Make it hard, make it luck based partly so these luck elixirs serve a purpose finally; it’s all about that GL right now! (Ps: I have 320GL which is decent I guess and I am saying this)
BUT also make some guaranteed drops like a new token currency, crafting ingredients for new stuff to craft etc.

But (for me) most importantly, add some good stuff in the loottable (which should be affected by luck%) like a new arcane egg (Nope, not trying to destroy egg prices, make a new arcane egg which will only be lootable in this arena, if necessary you can add an extra boss that has a chance to spawn after each boss fight) and this boss has let’s say a 0,02% chance to drop the Arcane egg.
Yes, ridiculously low drop rate same as vials but heck vials don’t deserve to be that rare, an arcane egg for sure deserves to be that rare.
The drop rate is low but AT LEAST IT IS THERE and players WILL run these maps.

To boost StS income I’m also thinking of adding some elixirs for this arena which can be bought with plat (for example elixir that has 2x chance to spawn the extra boss; elixir that has a chance to loot an all-exclusive new vanity set for each class ONLY available in arena and ONLY lootable with this elixir) (preferably not a recoloured one)

Not only talking about Arcane Eggs which may drop there if one is extremely lucky, you can also add Locked Crates to the loottable, you can add vials to the loottable, you can add awakening gems/kits to the loottable (of course make em rare), you can add so much to the loottable.

You can also make a completely new arena vendor who will take tokens (which are guaranteed drops when finishing the arena) and crafting materials to craft new gear/buy new gear and other stuff)

I know this text may have some flaws but overall I think it’s a pretty good idea.

What do you think?

Tsuchii
11-23-2018, 10:09 AM
+1.

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MajesticPotato
11-23-2018, 10:51 AM
I like the way you think +1

Abuze
11-23-2018, 10:59 AM
Bring back the old days, farming planar tombs during 41 cap etc, farming teeth and so on.

slaaayerrr
11-23-2018, 11:04 AM
u dont see how it going now... easier just add all good items to locked crates and call it the biggest expansion

VenomSet
11-23-2018, 11:22 AM
Bring back the old days, farming planar tombs during 41 cap etc, farming teeth and so on.

Yeah... I think a new arena would be a very good start :)

Iculous
11-23-2018, 11:29 AM
wow! great idea all around! also agree with abuse. planar was so much fun at 41 cap. I miss that bug where a mage could freeze lock that boss in (I think it was 2 I can't remember) that was great times.

Fiasaria
11-23-2018, 11:33 AM
you mean planar tombs ? it was in the lvl 3 tomb

Iculous
11-23-2018, 11:44 AM
yep PT ty.. good times.

Alwarez
11-23-2018, 12:51 PM
We had an arena-like map with good drops not long ago. Greediness of people killed it.

VenomSet
11-23-2018, 01:09 PM
We had an arena-like map with good drops not long ago. Greediness of people killed it.

Would u like to explain this further? I was at a one year break so that wasnt when Im active

Abuze
11-23-2018, 01:12 PM
he prob means the new elite map but idk how people abused it since sts gave people the option to have high gl gear :)

Chronox
11-23-2018, 01:15 PM
I'd like to see this +1

VenomSet
11-23-2018, 01:23 PM
he prob means the new elite map but idk how people abused it since sts gave people the option to have high gl gear :)

Yeah thats what I mean, Gold Loot here, Gold Loot there, this game shouldn’t be all about gold loot (of course the players with 700gl deserve to get some opportunities to make use of it, but there also should be other things that can be looted which sells for profit

Thewolfbull
11-23-2018, 06:39 PM
Nty. Maps like arena/raids will always favour the rogue class no matter how it's done. Maps like mauso and old elite maps were much better for class balance.

Spheresome
11-23-2018, 08:09 PM
Nty. Maps like arena/raids will always favour the rogue class no matter how it's done. Maps like mauso and old elite maps were much better for class balance.

I personally think that the idea and heart of Venomset are in the right place, its just something like this cannot be implemented without making the rogue class stronger than it already is.

VenomSet
11-24-2018, 02:55 AM
Nty. Maps like arena/raids will always favour the rogue class no matter how it's done. Maps like mauso and old elite maps were much better for class balance.

I think there could be a buff which can be implemented, when mage and warrior enter arena they receive a dmg buff or smth so they are on par with rogue class.
Also, I don’t want to argue here but, with some weapon procs I won’t mention here, the mage class now is almost as good as rogues when it comes to killing bosses.

Also my plan was that STS would create bosses where all classes would be needed somehow

putoshomai
11-24-2018, 07:21 AM
Its a good idea but .. there's too much loot ..for just one place .. :O .. and about the vanity that is not recolored I really think its op . But its a really good idea. To have a new arena

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VenomSet
11-24-2018, 07:50 AM
Its a good idea but .. there's too much loot ..for just one place .. :O .. and about the vanity that is not recolored I really think its op . But its a really good idea. To have a new arena

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loot in this arena won’t be dropping like cracked water jewels, there will be guaranteed drops and drops that are very very rare

putoshomai
11-24-2018, 08:38 AM
loot in this arena won’t be dropping like cracked water jewels, there will be guaranteed drops and drops that are very very rare
I know bro . And what kind of example is that ...cracked jewel? Lol. can't you understand bro? . You can loot many items that can cost millions or 500k above .. vials ,Arc egg , arc fossils, locked chest,tokens , craft ingredients and exclusive vanities (not recolored) ..in just one place??? Oh come on its like its the only place you need to farm. I'm not against in your idea . But in one place that you can loot many items that can be sell in millions .

My point here is . Don't add new loot .. just increase the loot chance ... of vials and fossils but the consequence is the boss is hard to kill or 4-5x the stats of the boss.. and revive the arena ... and I like the idea of arena vendor and the elixir ty for the new idea

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VenomSet
11-24-2018, 08:59 AM
I know bro . And what kind of example is that ...cracked jewel? Lol. can't you understand bro? . You can loot many items that can cost millions or 500k above .. vials ,Arc egg , arc fossils, locked chest,tokens , craft ingredients and exclusive vanities (not recolored) ..in just one place??? Oh come on its like its the only place you need to farm. I'm not against in your idea . But in one place that you can loot many items that can be sell in millions .

My point here is . Don't add new loot .. just increase the loot chance ... of vials and fossils but the consequence is the boss is hard to kill or 4-5x the stats of the boss.. and revive the arena ... and I like the idea of arena vendor and the elixir ty for the new idea

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Yeah I’m not a professional game designer like the devs it’s just a rough idea, which has to be polished by the devs.
Of course it’s all up to them

putoshomai
11-24-2018, 10:14 AM
Yeah I’m not a professional game designer like the devs it’s just a rough idea, which has to be polished by the devs.
Of course it’s all up to them
But still its a good idea. I really hope that .. they will revive arena or make a new arena . Its a new way of farming . I wish and I hope it will happen . Ty for that wonderful idea

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Helpless
11-25-2018, 05:00 AM
+1 new arena!!!

raduvidican2002gygg
11-26-2018, 11:17 AM
+1 from me too :)

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VenomSet
11-26-2018, 12:07 PM
Thanks all for your positive and/or constructive feedback.
Maybe lets keep this thread going so devs could have a word here :)

Dalmony
11-27-2018, 08:00 PM
Would love a new arena - it got a revamp once before why not again :)

Each time the Arena has come out as a cap level map it has been super difficult to beat! Those who have only ever played it during this 1 hit the boss era don't know the true pain those environments can deal [emoji23]


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Bluehazee
11-29-2018, 04:55 AM
I think there could be a buff which can be implemented, when mage and warrior enter arena they receive a dmg buff or smth so they are on par with rogue class.
Also, I don’t want to argue here but, with some weapon procs I won’t mention here, the mage class now is almost as good as rogues when it comes to killing bosses.

Also my plan was that STS would create bosses where all classes would be needed somehow

Hii
I'd like to know which weapons you are referring to, really. I personally feel like mages can actually do lets say 25% of dmg they were doing at bosses. I dont disagree at all with this situation because i understand this as part of game balance,making all classes useful (Although i think that atm rogues are better than mages killing mobs in some maps like fester ones).
I really loved arena when 5mins was a very nice time (XD) but i also think that for healthy of game it would be better to have hard maps where teamwork between different classes is needed.
These are my thoughts and maybe im wrong, but out of salt at all

putoshomai
11-29-2018, 10:46 AM
Hii
I'd like to know which weapons you are referring to, really. I personally feel like mages can actually do lets say 25% of dmg they were doing at bosses. I dont disagree at all with this situation because i understand this as part of game balance,making all classes useful (Although i think that atm rogues are better than mages killing mobs in some maps like fester ones).
I really loved arena when 5mins was a very nice time (XD) but i also think that for healthy of game it would be better to have hard maps where teamwork between different classes is needed.
These are my thoughts and maybe im wrong, but out of salt at all
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