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Snacking
01-13-2019, 03:28 PM
Just a fun little tourney to throw some competition into what I feel is one of the more balanced levels :)
Leave your name as well as partners name down below. I have messaged cinco about prizes, we can only hope he supports. :)

RULES AS WELL AS GEAR UPDATED

THE MAP IS FOREST FIGHT

Type of tournament-
Double elimination tournament, there will be a winners and losers bracket. Each match will consist of 3 games, it will be best 2 out of 3 to ensure fairness. The matches will be FFA styled.

Rules-
1. Gear~
The gear allowed in this tournament will consist of sandstone cave gear ONLY. There will be no rings, or gear outside of that. WHITE rings bought with platinum will be the only rings available. I’m only adding these because there’s no way to know if a player isn’t using one or not. So to avoid cheating they ARE allowed.
2. Players in arena~
This will be a fair 2v2 with both players who have signed present. There will be no rejoining or swapping classes. There will be one spectator recording the fight as well as watching out for rule breakers.
3. Cheaters~
There will be no macros or subs, also no one can spam trade or pm competing players. If this happens, the match will be postponed until they have stopped.
4. Vanities~
Vanities are not allowed. Also NO FOUNDERS HELM.
5. Map~
The map is forest fight which is the most spacious free map so that there is no advantage to being a class that thrives in close combat. Treeing is allowed.

Date-
Date will be set after all teams are in. I will talk with each team and make the date according to when everyone is free.

OFFICIAL BRACKET
https://challonge.com/tournaments/bracket_generator?ref=7CZ8p6w4ue

DATE WILL BE SET AFTER I CONSULT EACH TEAM.
This could take a day or 2 for me to catch everyone while they’re online.
I’d like for every team to contact me over discord @T-haley#9858

Prize pool is yet to be determined. Hoping for cinco to sponsor. Like I said this tourney is for fun. Everyone take a breather.

Team 1
-Stxp~bear
-Isuckalone~mage

Team 2
-Wufo~mage
-Bullys~mage

Team 3
-Autoattacks~mage
-ogmnm~bear

Team 4
-Eatmyshred~fox
-Ripxdisback~fox

Team 5
-Zsw~bear
-Bunchofpulp~mage

Team 6
-Bearmagebird~bear
-Sosomage~mage

Team 7
-Artplayctf~mage
-Disgruntlment~bear

Team 8
-Notrich~mage
-Choopeka~fox

Team 9
-Equalizing~bear
-Cuqt~mage

Team 10
-Stealthform~fox
-Masterrift~mage

Team 11
-Godlytyrant~mage
-Dumbmfwitch~mage

Team 12
-Loolol~mage
-Eroxah~mage

Team 13
-Jixsaw~mage
-Slaughter~mage

Team 14
-Egyptos~mage
-Unnerfing~mage

Team 15
-Unbanntourney~mage
-Teleports~bear

Team 16
-Chocotone~mage
-Kraizehad~mage

SIGN-UPS ARE NOW CLOSED

solosheena
01-13-2019, 05:46 PM
Are there any gear and class restrictions?

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MageFFA
01-13-2019, 05:51 PM
Sign me Up ING
Captain: Artplayctf L.27 mage
Disgruntlment L.27 Bear

burntoutdex
01-13-2019, 06:01 PM
hi

can you clarify what gear and class retrictions exist, if any?
eg:
can we have mage mage?
can we use founders'?
what shields are allowed?
can we use paw or reaper?
is it SSC & pre-forg only?
amulets?

also, 10teams means 2teams will get a bye in the first round - perhaps try and get 16 because of the activeness of the level?

fruitbattwo
01-13-2019, 06:03 PM
Could you add more details like class and item restrictions? As well as whether or not its honor.

Zuxer
01-13-2019, 06:17 PM
- Egyptos. sign me in and I’ll look for a teammate

Snacking
01-13-2019, 06:31 PM
Updated rules

DollarStore
01-13-2019, 08:47 PM
Team Name : Bvds
(Captain) Bear - Equalizing
Mage - Cuqt
Thanks for this opportunity (;
Sincerely - the bvds

solosheena
01-13-2019, 09:00 PM
Sign my team up please:

Team Name: UnderWater Squad

Captain: GodlyTyrant (Mage) Level 27

Teammate: Dumbmfwitch (Mage) Level 27

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burntoutdex
01-13-2019, 10:46 PM
Thank you for making it 16 :)

is it ffa or go style?

Snacking
01-13-2019, 10:47 PM
It’s gonna be ffa :)

Dolloway
01-13-2019, 11:00 PM
Nice rules. Completely explains the tournament.

Snacking
01-13-2019, 11:03 PM
Let me clarify.
The reason I’m making this as so there is no rules regarding gear or class is to make this tournament as accurate as possible to the current state of pvp. This will show who the best players are in the current state because that’s just how pvp is.

plpr
01-13-2019, 11:07 PM
I think this should definitely be ssc only. Much more fair and skill dependent

Jyuu1205
01-13-2019, 11:14 PM
Taking a vote from the players might be a great idea when it comes to these type of tournaments, so that all the players have an equal / balanced gears. Just stating an idea according to what you have stated, "This will show who the best players are in the current state because that’s just how pvp is".

No way we can classify who the best players are if not given the same gears right?

-Jun

Jyuu1205
01-13-2019, 11:19 PM
Also, by stating no rules, it implies

-Treeing
-Abusing fast rjing technique if mastered
-Running buffs
-Switching toons throughout the match
-Switching builds and stats during the match.

Please keep in mind that more organization might be required to run a proper tournament, or else it just turns into a mess.

burntoutdex
01-13-2019, 11:27 PM
Hi, am i allowed to swap to a bear after 12seconds and beckon stomp and then rejoin on my mage?

plpr
01-13-2019, 11:27 PM
Hi, am i allowed to swap to a bear after 12seconds and beckon stomp and then rejoin on my mage?
Yes there are no rules. What kind of question is that?

Dolloway
01-13-2019, 11:28 PM
There are many unspecified rules.

What map? Can I host any map, including one that caters more to bears and has close corridors/lots of trees if my team has a bear on it?

Can I leave and rejoin the game to gain health and mana back? Can I run away with a Mimi ring, leave the game and then rejoin?

Can I switch gears during the match?

Can I wear vanities to conceal the gear I'm wearing and to hide my gear swapping?

Can I tree the entire game?

Can I use macros?

Can I use subs?

Can I sub in a player during the match?

Can I switch to another toon mid-game?

Can I call players bad names and puke on them mid-game or is sportsmanship required?

Can anyone join the game during the match since there's no specification of whether the room is locked or not?

Can I pay people to spam message/trade the other team during the tourney to annoy them and to partially blind their screen?

What prizes do winners get if Cinco doesn't sponsor this tournament? A sense of pride and accomplishment?

Waydog
01-13-2019, 11:30 PM
There are many unspecified rules.

What map? Can I host any map, including one that caters more to bears and has close corridors/lots of trees if my team has a bear on it?

Can I leave and rejoin the game to gain health and mana back? Can I run away with a Mimi ring, leave the game and then rejoin?

Can I switch gears during the match?

Can I wear vanities to conceal the gear I'm wearing and to hide my gear swapping?

Can I tree the entire game?

Can I use macros?

Can I use subs?

Can I sub in a player during the match?

Can I switch to another toon mid-game?

Can I call players bad names and puke on them mid-game or is sportsmanship required?

Can anyone join the game during the match since there's no specification of whether the room is locked or not?

Can I pay people to spam message/trade the other team during the tourney to annoy them and to partially blind their screen?

What prizes do winners get if Cinco doesn't sponsor this tournament? A sense of pride and accomplishment?
All that doesnt matter dolloway, all that matters is that this tournament shows who is the best.

Snacking
01-13-2019, 11:53 PM
Taking a vote from the players might be a great idea when it comes to these type of tournaments, so that all the players have an equal / balanced gears. Just stating an idea according to what you have stated, "This will show who the best players are in the current state because that’s just how pvp is".

No way we can classify who the best players are if not given the same gears right?

-Jun

Jun, I said who’s better in the CURRENT state of pvp. This is how pvp is now, the rings are always gonna be in the game as well as the unbalanced gear, removing that for a couple games would change everything everyone has practiced with for the past year or two.

Snacking
01-13-2019, 11:57 PM
quotes need 11 too

Why is this an attack on me now? I’m just hosting a fun tournament. If you don’t think the rules fit then don’t participate. I’m sorry.

Jyuu1205
01-14-2019, 12:06 AM
Jun, I said who’s better in the CURRENT state of pvp. This is how pvp is now, the rings are always gonna be in the game as well as the unbalanced gear, removing that for a couple games would change everything everyone has practiced with for the past year or two.

But CURRENT state of pvp won't tell you who the BEST players are, because the gears are way too unbalanced for the new participants trying to participate in this tourney. If you want to claim who the BEST players are, usage of the same gear should be applied.

Give them the rings, but a halloween items will dominate in this tournament.

If your definition of BEST players are winning against other players in an unequal condition, what's the point of hosting a tournament to identify who the BEST players are?

Snacking
01-14-2019, 12:11 AM
But CURRENT state of pvp won't tell you who the BEST players are, because the gears are way too unbalanced for the new participants trying to participate in this tourney. If you want to claim who the BEST players are, usage of the same gear should be applied.

Give them the rings, but a halloween items will dominate in this tournament.

If your definition of BEST players are winning against other players in an unequal condition, what's the point of hosting a tournament to identify who the BEST players are?

Like I said, the best players in the CURRENT state of pvp. This is how cinco has designed pvp, it’s not going to go in reverse. So tell me, what’s the point in having a competition to see who the best player of 2013 was? What’s the point of having a competition in a made up reality of pocket legends that just doesn’t exist anymore?

Snacking
01-14-2019, 12:15 AM
Also to everyone clowning me for saying it’ll show who the best player is in the current state of pvp, is that not what tourneys are for? I seem to have lost the idea of competition.

burntoutdex
01-14-2019, 01:15 AM
The meta in 2011 (SSC/WF) was far more balanced than the current meta in PvP at 26. Sure, 2011 PvP might be outdated, but anything that came after is a pale imitation of the balance we once had in this level bracket.

The current state of this tournament caters entirely towards the rich and is entirely in favour of a team with 2 rich mages. If you truly want to find the best PvPer then the only way to do that is make it SSC/WF gear. I can guarantee you anyone who even has a chance at winning this tournament will completely agree to making it SSC/WF gear. I daresay they would be elated to finally have an SSC tournament because there was never one that concluded in the past.

The current meta is not inclusive of all classes... SSC/WF would be. At the moment, i don't think there will even be a single bird or rhino that enters - there just wouldn't be a point. I would love a chance to use my onyx bird again.

Please consider what myself and other people have said about making it SSC/WF only, it is infinitely fairer and will attract a much larger audience than 16 teams.

It doesn't matter that it's outdated when the current meta is entirely unbalanced.

The current meta shows who the richest are, not the best - how could that be fair?

What's the point in hosting a tournament that isn't even fair to begin with?

Snacking
01-14-2019, 01:28 AM
Honestly I’m just trying to accommodate the players. There’s gonna be hate no matter what gear I allow.
Here I created a straw poll for the players to vote. Whichever gear set gets the most votes is what we will use. Sound fair? :)
https://strawpoll.com/dbbgyahs

burntoutdex
01-14-2019, 01:30 AM
Honestly I’m just trying to accommodate the players. There’s gonna be hate no matter what gear I allow.
Here I created a straw poll for the players to vote. Whichever gear set gets the most votes is what we will use. Sound fair? :)
https://strawpoll.com/dbbgyahs

Thank you, we appreciate it

Snacking
01-14-2019, 02:05 AM
I HAVE UPDATED RULES AND GEAR
there will be sandstone cave only with no rings allowed, due to what the players wanted.

Ni Hao
01-14-2019, 02:40 AM
Like I said, the best players in the CURRENT state of pvp. This is how cinco has designed pvp, it’s not going to go in reverse. So tell me, what’s the point in having a competition to see who the best player of 2013 was? What’s the point of having a competition in a made up reality of pocket legends that just doesn’t exist anymore?

there is no point in having a competition to seeing who the best player of 2013 was, it was me :)

burntoutdex
01-14-2019, 02:40 AM
I HAVE UPDATED RULES AND GEAR
there will be sandstone cave only with no rings allowed, due to what the players wanted.

can we use white rings?

burntoutdex
01-14-2019, 03:01 AM
reserved maybe

Zuxer
01-14-2019, 03:21 AM
Team
-Egyptos
- unnerfing


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burntoutdex
01-14-2019, 04:27 AM
team:

unbantourneyy
teleports

thanks

Zaprodanej
01-14-2019, 09:48 AM
Am I really out of tourney by some1 that didnt even post thread?

Snacking
01-14-2019, 11:21 AM
OFFICIAL BRACKET
https://challonge.com/tournaments/bracket_generator?ref=7CZ8p6w4ue

plpr
01-14-2019, 01:20 PM
up the amount of teams. There are at least 5 more teams i know personally want to join.


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MageFFA
01-14-2019, 02:05 PM
Will the teams have the ability to have subs in case something were to happen . Like if my teammate is at school or if I'm at the hospital.

Snacking
01-14-2019, 02:13 PM
Will the teams have the ability to have subs in case something were to happen . Like if my teammate is at school or if I'm at the hospital.

I have already clarified there will be no subs. If a teammate fails to show up under any circumstance, they will be disqualified.

Zuxer
01-14-2019, 03:19 PM
I have already clarified there will be no subs. If a teammate fails to show up under any circumstance, they will be disqualified.

But why that ? At least you can give him a chance like 1 more day ?

Waydog
01-14-2019, 07:06 PM
How would you feel about increasing the amount of teams? This tournament seems to have gotten very popular and I know there are plenty more teams that would like to join. I was thinking around 24 - 32 teams or so. This could be a very good thing for PL. Thankyou for considering

Also, you should allow the teams to set their own times for games as everyone has their own work/school schedules. Its much easier if the two teams are able to decide a time for both rather than potentially being disqualified for something they had no control over.