In kind regards of the event!

[panedorin]

I decided to write this post only after the event, in order for it to be taken more like a feed-back than a complaint. I am also writing this post from the point of view of a LB runner since most of us spent more hours protecting Magnus than we spent in our own bed.

Firstly i would like to say that this wasnt an absolute disaster,as many people claim. The event had a great idea at its core, its just that it was "wrapped" in a not-so-good packaging.

Secondly i would like to take a shot at the mechanincs of the map itself, more specifically the timed cart. For us who spend countless hours delivering that cart, its a bit tilting to keep on waiting for Magnus and his Deary to move. Most of us could have run that map a lot faster since we are geared better than the average player. I think that the edge of being faster was taken from us.

Continuing i would like to adress one of the most contrivertial topics of the event. And that being the vanity set reward for finishing in top10. Dont get me wrong, I actually love the piece, its cool and they did a great job with it, but that only puts more salt on the wound since they made it lootable from mere crates....
For everyone to understand OUR frustration better, let me throw some numbers at you. Lets pick the warrior class since that is the LB I personally ran.
It took at least 175k points IN A WEEK for a warrior to enter the top10. Altho some of us had close and over 200k. The average run gives you 150-160 points considering you also lose some. Also because of the timer every run is set around 3 minutes. I will take my score of 195k as a benchmark.

This being sayd let me give you the facts:
- top10 runners have protected that cart more than 1000 times ! Specifically 1258 times !
- top10 runners have spent 3774 minutes in that map. Convert that in 63 hours! That is close to 3 full days of non-stop running!
- top10 runners spent 9 hours MINIMMUM a day playing the game!
- top10 runners killed over 60k mobs only in the event map!

Those are the numbers you would have to match to be at the very top, in my opinnion those are OTHERWORDLY as we also have a real life full of schools, jobs, kids,friends, SLEEP, and so on.

I am not blaming STS for making these numbers so high, because these are made by us, the players that run the event, and sincerely I wouldnt like to have it another way! Because those vanityes should be worn by ONLY those people that played this game like machines for 7 straight days. What i am pointing at as a mistake is the fact that they made the vanityes lootable! I think there is no greater frustration for a top10 runner than to see someone walking around in the same vanity that he lost so many good night sleeps for......
Yes its true that you can say we dont run for the vainty solely, and we actually dont.
We run for the thrill of seeing our IGN's up there, we run for the thrill of competing and testing our andurance against the people that we always meet up there. We run for all the people in our guilds that cheer us on and for every friend that is helping us. We all run so we can hear ONE sentence: "How do those guys do it?"
Even when we knew that the vainty was not exclusive for us, we still spent countless hours on the event because its in our nature to do so, STS could have done at least something, a small change anything, since there would have been the same people with OR without changes.

I hope this would go down as a mistake and be addresed as a "DON'T" for future developements and ideas.

If you can relate or understand this post, give it a fat support and a thumb up, this game is here today because all of you! Let you voice be heard!

I will leave some screenshot as a memorandum of this event :)

Sincerely Cursedguyhttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190322/252a8c607d6afa67cdbe65a1acbf71a6.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190322/1977535b76f33d0e3221c4929dc67083.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190322/a231d3c3261ca43d4cf77dd2f517320a.jpg

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[Zeridor]

Totally agree with you I wouldn't wrote it better than you

[Celli]

Couldnt agree more! +1 for this thread

[Arfee]

Well said brother, we do run for the love of the game. Its the same as you guys from sts point of view. You put alot of efforts in every event u make assuming u guys also spend alot of hours designing and programing the mechanics of the events, and that we do appreciate alot. Dont get me wrong but what if the lb runners stopped running cause it was proven a waste of time, how would u guys feel about it after spending alot of time and effort designing it and wasnt appreciated.

Farmers/merchant point of views: "i can just buy those rewards easily while i sleep (precise jewel, vanity set, etc) and can alrdy claim that they run those lb we did. And yes those golds they gonna spend it on is also from their own efforts and all. BUT im talking about the event itself. We run those lb because we appreciate your hard works on the, and that if we work hard on it we can also be appreciated and be well rewarded :*

I am a pure farmer.. And i started running those lb because i felt well rewarded, that there are still those things that cant be bought by any currency, And that not everything in this game is about GOLD, or how rich u may be.

Im just voicing out my opinion from my point of view, See ya all on the nxt event, Im sure it will be better, spread positivity Cheers!

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[Cinco]

I think the central idea about the value / distinction of the lb rewards is good and will be taken into consideration for future stuff :-)

[QuaseT]

Wasnt running top10 but can understand. Full support +1.

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[Thesal]

Thumbs up! 👍👍

[Oakmaiden]

Totally disagree with your opinion on the mechanics. It was the first event with a map (not a single room) that I could wear my stat gears instead of speed set. It was refreshing to have the team focused on the mobs rather than run to the boss. I would love to see future events/maps run in a similar fashion. I agree lb rewards should be unique from lower tier prizes.

[Alwarez]

I wish I had a job where I could play games for 9 hours and have time to spend with family after that

[Strike]

totally agreed..kinda sad that vanity is not elusive for top 10 ;/

[evilya]

I agree👍👍👍👍👍👍👍

[panedorin]

Im not complaining about the fact that i cant use my SS, i too enjoyed the fact that i could for once use my full gear in an event. I am complaining about the fact that my gear may let me kill waves faster than a regular player , and im just left sitting there, not doing anything, waiting for the cart to start.

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[Tookyo]

+1 that the vanities should have been A LITTLE different than the lootable ones,
+10 for such a well written thread!
Congrats to you Cursed for being a top10, and congrats to all LB runners.

[Snowdager]

Alright, I think I should start off by saying I was top 10 for the mage class, and had over 188k points when the event came to an end, now with that being said, there are less than 30 people in game who have more experience running this event map than me, so I hope you take my opinion into consideration.

The map itself was a brilliant idea, I absolutely love it, i gained over 60k pve kills from this event, and protecting the cart was definitely a new and interesting gameplay. The loot was ok from the boss, I liked that it wasn’t extremely common, but I think it should have been a little rarer. I disliked how the mobs spawn right beside the cart on the final stage of the map, it insured the cart would take dmg, in all the runs i did, never once did the cart come out unscathed. The leaderboard vanities where not good, That’s as nice as I can be about them. Instead of runes, we got awakening gems, I liked this, but it should be a significant amount of awakening gems, runes are worth allot more, so I think if awakening gems will be replacing runes there needs to be allot more of them as part of the reward.

Now here’s my list of things I think could be improved:
1. I think that the carts movement speed should be based on how fast you kill the mobs, for leaderboard players this would mean more runs, and for new players it would give them a fighting chance.
2. never ever ever ever (can’t stress this enough) make a Leaderboard Vanity lootable.
3. Add more interesting rewards in the Bosses loot pile, like the bullion bowl (would need to be extremely rare)
4. Add tier rewards, so new players actually have a reason to run.
5. Add something for top 10, there’s no way for anyone prove they were in the top 10, because anyone in the top 25 could buy the golden Brawler set and pretend to be top 10.

And last but not least, on the forums, and in game when you check the leaderboard rewards it said “Gleaming Golden Brawler” as the reward for top 10. If you checked the event crate it said “Golden Brawler”, this made tons of people think they where 2 different things, like how last years event went. Last year the lootable vanity looked different than the leaderboard vanity. Please for the love of arlor, don’t add in words to make the vanity sound better, just put the vanities name.

[Oakmaiden]

Oh , and puleeeze get rid of the “game over” box at end of run, I die just after boss and couldn’t pick up my pile of gold!

[Flamesofanger]

I agree. Make LB rewards very special & unique, Only to be given out to the hard working contenders.

This will motivate future runners to invest more time & money into the game.

[Irg]

"The Top 10 Players will receive a character-bound gleaming 'Golden Brawler' vanity item set), the unique 'Lucky Brew Tap' banner (in addition to other goodies that include Awakening Gems and a Precise Jewel)"

Shouldn't it be untradeble?

[panedorin]

"The Top 10 Players will receive a character-bound gleaming 'Golden Brawler' vanity item set), the unique 'Lucky Brew Tap' banner (in addition to other goodies that include Awakening Gems and a Precise Jewel)"

Shouldn't it be untradeble?It is. But it also is lootable in Mead Crates. (Wich is a lot worse)

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[Alfabeast]

Yes I agree, exclusive vanity for top 10 is a must,
But I'm happy with the cart over last year's barrel bash


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[Motherless_Child]

I wish I had a job where I could play games for 9 hours and have time to spend with family after that


There is "no such" job......

If developers "just played" games, it would get nowhere.......

[Quizno Sub]

gg bro +1 i agree 100%

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[Irg]

There is "no such" job......

If developers "just played" games, it would get nowhere.......

If it exists, it will be called sleeping

Also i do agree that top 10 must have exclusive vanity, its only awarding that way

[wangkj]

Sign me up for that Job!

[Ibrazs]

+1 [emoji106][emoji106][emoji106][emoji106][emoji106]

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[Fyrce]

I think it would be fair to do a little something different to the banner for the top 10, perhaps a copper edging on the banner?

Just a thought to distinguish the hard work of these people.

I certainly do not do that much work in the game. People who do deserve something separating them from the rest of us slacker types.

[Gamegrog]

I decided to write this post only after the event, in order for it to be taken more like a feed-back than a complaint. I am also writing this post from the point of view of a LB runner since most of us spent more hours protecting Magnus than we spent in our own bed.

Firstly i would like to say that this wasnt an absolute disaster,as many people claim. The event had a great idea at its core, its just that it was "wrapped" in a not-so-good packaging.

Secondly i would like to take a shot at the mechanincs of the map itself, more specifically the timed cart. For us who spend countless hours delivering that cart, its a bit tilting to keep on waiting for Magnus and his Deary to move. Most of us could have run that map a lot faster since we are geared better than the average player. I think that the edge of being faster was taken from us.

Continuing i would like to adress one of the most contrivertial topics of the event. And that being the vanity set reward for finishing in top10. Dont get me wrong, I actually love the piece, its cool and they did a great job with it, but that only puts more salt on the wound since they made it lootable from mere crates....
For everyone to understand OUR frustration better, let me throw some numbers at you. Lets pick the warrior class since that is the LB I personally ran.
It took at least 175k points IN A WEEK for a warrior to enter the top10. Altho some of us had close and over 200k. The average run gives you 150-160 points considering you also lose some. Also because of the timer every run is set around 3 minutes. I will take my score of 195k as a benchmark.

This being sayd let me give you the facts:
- top10 runners have protected that cart more than 1000 times ! Specifically 1258 times !
- top10 runners have spent 3774 minutes in that map. Convert that in 63 hours! That is close to 3 full days of non-stop running!
- top10 runners spent 9 hours MINIMMUM a day playing the game!
- top10 runners killed over 60k mobs only in the event map!

Those are the numbers you would have to match to be at the very top, in my opinnion those are OTHERWORDLY as we also have a real life full of schools, jobs, kids,friends, SLEEP, and so on.

I am not blaming STS for making these numbers so high, because these are made by us, the players that run the event, and sincerely I wouldnt like to have it another way! Because those vanityes should be worn by ONLY those people that played this game like machines for 7 straight days. What i am pointing at as a mistake is the fact that they made the vanityes lootable! I think there is no greater frustration for a top10 runner than to see someone walking around in the same vanity that he lost so many good night sleeps for......
Yes its true that you can say we dont run for the vainty solely, and we actually dont.
We run for the thrill of seeing our IGN's up there, we run for the thrill of competing and testing our andurance against the people that we always meet up there. We run for all the people in our guilds that cheer us on and for every friend that is helping us. We all run so we can hear ONE sentence: "How do those guys do it?"
Even when we knew that the vainty was not exclusive for us, we still spent countless hours on the event because its in our nature to do so, STS could have done at least something, a small change anything, since there would have been the same people with OR without changes.

I hope this would go down as a mistake and be addresed as a "DON'T" for future developements and ideas.

If you can relate or understand this post, give it a fat support and a thumb up, this game is here today because all of you! Let you voice be heard!

I will leave some screenshot as a memorandum of this event :)

Sincerely Cursedguyhttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190322/252a8c607d6afa67cdbe65a1acbf71a6.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190322/1977535b76f33d0e3221c4929dc67083.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190322/a231d3c3261ca43d4cf77dd2f517320a.jpg

Trimis de pe al meu SM-A530F folosind TapatalkI totally agree with you panedorin
Thought I did not run the event that much and I am not an lb player.i feel ur pain.i understand that all the lb players did their best and did not get anything exclusive from it makes me feel a lot bad.
Devs u guys are amazing u all did a fantastic job and you all are making the game better keep continuing the work.
But pls include something exclusive for the lb players.
Like plats,pets,cool vanity....ect.
To keep them encouraged.
Thank you.

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[Cinco]

We will consider changing the lb rewards. I’m personally excited about setting the precedent of updating / changing / even removing or totally replacing lb rewards if there is outcry or if I think it is necessary in the future. We have policy against it but now... why not change :-))


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[Cinco]

I think it would be fair to do a little something different to the banner for the top 10, perhaps a copper edging on the banner?

Just a thought to distinguish the hard work of these people.

I certainly do not do that much work in the game. People who do deserve something separating them from the rest of us slacker types.

Since that banner was awarded to all top 25 the alteration of the item would affect all recipients; not jus the top 10.
To accomplish this we would need to come up with a mechanism whereby top 10’s could convert their rewards. I think this can be done but I would prefer not to take that time away from Easter event development.

Thoughts?

[panedorin]

Since that banner was awarded to all top 25 the alteration of the item would affect all recipients; not jus the top 10.
To accomplish this we would need to come up with a mechanism whereby top 10’s could convert their rewards. I think this can be done but I would prefer not to take that time away from Easter event development.

Thoughts?I personally dont think a little patience is gonna kill anyone, i dont believe this is a matter of "how fast?" , rather one of "what if?" . So let us all enjoy the egg hunt event first if that may be the case!
Also the idea of selectively touching only the items of those in top10 in this case may be fair? Or it may not? Im not keen on either one, i say let the devs decide that one istead of leaving the players rattle it out.
Altho if I was to take a shot i will be thinking about 2 variables:
One being touching the vanity set for top10 so it doesnt affect the people over in top25.
Second being touching,lets say, the banners for both sides but different collors/reworks/maybe even an aura???
Surprise us with something that would make us feel like we are wearing top10 vanityes!

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[Cinco]

With regard to possible changes I think it makes the most sense to focus on varying the vanity outfit appearances first and then consider the possibility of banner changes.

To know my biases: I’m not too keen on changing the banner for top 10 because - amid all the confusing stuff about rewards - it was actually very clear that top 25 would get the new Lucky Brew Tap. Never was there a plan to distinguish the top 10 banner and all runners knew this going into the event. Changing them for top 10 constitutes a structural change to the rewards and not just a tweak. I can see legitimate concerns coming from top 25’s as a result.

The top 10 vanity item set on the other hand was ruined by bad information and poor implementation which gives us the resulting disappointment. Dressing up these items with a cool particle effect or aura seems like a fair thing to do - and it should come as soon as we have the next event items under control.


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[Tookyo]

Yes! Aura seems the most logical solution if you dont want to change the whole design.
+1 for aura

[panedorin]

With regard to possible changes I think it makes the most sense to focus on varying the vanity outfit appearances first and then consider the possibility of banner changes.

To know my biases: I’m not too keen on changing the banner for top 10 because - amid all the confusing stuff about rewards - it was actually very clear that top 25 would get the new Lucky Brew Tap. Never was there a plan to distinguish the top 10 banner and all runners knew this going into the event. Changing them for top 10 constitutes a structural change to the rewards and not just a tweak. I can see legitimate concerns coming from top 25’s as a result.

The top 10 vanity item set on the other hand was ruined by bad information and poor implementation which gives us the resulting disappointment. Dressing up these items with a cool particle effect or aura seems like a fair thing to do - and it should come as soon as we have the next event items under control.


Sent from my iPhone using TapatalkFair point! It would be the most logical thing to do, since all the trouble is about the missunderstood vanity set. It would imply some top25 players to feel a lil bad, but those rewards were clearly stated.

An arcane +1 for auraaaaaaaa. :D

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[Cinco]

Yes! Aura seems the most logical solution if you dont want to change the whole design.
+1 for aura

I have considered changing the whole design but I’m 100% certain that it would be divisive (even though I am certain that my change would be more beautiful). :-))

Particle fx (static and streaming/motion variants) are also being considered - they will be roughly as expensive (with respect to client frame rate) as an aura.


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[Arfee]

Since that banner was awarded to all top 25 the alteration of the item would affect all recipients; not jus the top 10.
To accomplish this we would need to come up with a mechanism whereby top 10’s could convert their rewards. I think this can be done but I would prefer not to take that time away from Easter event development.

Thoughts?Banner seperation of top *[1-10]

this can also be a good idea, for top 10' banner, u can just add some glowing effects to seperate it from 25's banners. Cause changing the set reward itself will surely have alot of complains.

Idk how many hours of effort u guys develop these items but one thing im sure is, takes lesser time to rework an item than making a new one.. by converting current banner of top 10 for an upgraded version.

Reason: complains will be lesser in a banner upgrade compared to changing the vanity set.

Since its ur own idea to seperate banner rewards from 1-25 and 26-50. Why not go for it. Its the only fair thing i can come up with.



*Just a suggestion its stilll up to u guys. And were not asking it to be changed asap. U guys can take ur time developing on easter.. We can wait!

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[panedorin]

I have considered changing the whole design but I’m 100% certain that it would be divisive (even though I am certain that my change would be more beautiful). :-))

Particle fx (static and streaming/motion variants) are also being considered - they will be roughly as expensive (with respect to client frame rate) as an aura.


Sent from my iPhone using TapatalkThe good news keep on comiiiing!

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[Arfee]

I have considered changing the whole design but I’m 100% certain that it would be divisive (even though I am certain that my change would be more beautiful). :-))

Particle fx (static and streaming/motion variants) are also being considered - they will be roughly as expensive (with respect to client frame rate) as an aura.


Sent from my iPhone using TapatalkOps, nvm. This idea is alot better! Thanks xD

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[panedorin]

Banner seperation of top *[1-10]

this can also be a good idea, for top 10' banner, u can just add some glowing effects to seperate it from 25's banners. Cause changing the set reward itself will surely have alot of complains.

Idk how many hours of effort u guys develop these items but one thing im sure is, takes lesser time to rework an item than making a new one.. by converting current banner of top 10 for an upgraded version.

Reason: complains will be lesser in a banner upgrade compared to changing the vanity set.

Since its ur own idea to seperate banner rewards from 1-25 and 26-50. Why not go for it. Its the only fair thing i can come up with.



*Just a suggestion its stilll up to u guys. And were not asking it to be changed asap. U guys can take ur time developing on easter.. We can wait!

Sent from my vivo 1718 using TapatalkTho it would be more "domestic" to say so, if STS is going to change the reward, why not go big time for vanity set? ( to make up for the trouble maybe? :3 )

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[Alfabeast]

The good news keep on comiiiing!

Trimis de pe al meu SM-A530F folosind TapatalkI'm very happy that you are considering this , really appreciate this Cinco
Ty

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[Arfee]

Tho it would be more "domestic" to say so, if STS is going to change the reward, why not go big time for vanity set? ( to make up for the trouble maybe? :3 )

Trimis de pe al meu SM-A530F folosind TapatalkHahahhaaha i couldnt consider it, since i didnt want devs to get alot of complains. But cinco is the man, forget the banner upgrade ! Full support for cinco vanity enhacement! +100000000!

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[Alfabeast]

With regard to possible changes I think it makes the most sense to focus on varying the vanity outfit appearances first and then consider the possibility of banner changes.

To know my biases: I’m not too keen on changing the banner for top 10 because - amid all the confusing stuff about rewards - it was actually very clear that top 25 would get the new Lucky Brew Tap. Never was there a plan to distinguish the top 10 banner and all runners knew this going into the event. Changing them for top 10 constitutes a structural change to the rewards and not just a tweak. I can see legitimate concerns coming from top 25’s as a result.

The top 10 vanity item set on the other hand was ruined by bad information and poor implementation which gives us the resulting disappointment. Dressing up these items with a cool particle effect or aura seems like a fair thing to do - and it should come as soon as we have the next event items under control.


Sent from my iPhone using TapatalkIt's always been top 25-50 banners, no need to even worry with that
Top 10 vanity, I suggest let Cinco surprise us and just appreciate the fact it's been done,
Ty all
Gz all top lb

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[panedorin]

Hahahhaaha i couldnt consider it, since i didnt want devs to get alot of complains. But cinco is the man, forget the banner upgrade ! Full support for cinco vanity enhacement! +100000000!

Sent from my vivo 1718 using TapatalkSince we are already here, can i go as far as to suggest a gleaming sparkling golden collor for the glow/particles/beneath-character aura or whatever it will be?
I, myslef entrust all my hopes to Cinco!

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[Tookyo]

I have considered changing the whole design but I’m 100% certain that it would be divisive (even though I am certain that my change would be more beautiful). :-))

Particle fx (static and streaming/motion variants) are also being considered - they will be roughly as expensive (with respect to client frame rate) as an aura.


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A whole new design would be contradition as many players would be mad that "i would have ran event if i knew we would get these vanities" .
At least same design with a aura wouldnt matter much since you never said if these vanities had auras or not :P

[Snowdager]

With regard to possible changes I think it makes the most sense to focus on varying the vanity outfit appearances first and then consider the possibility of banner changes.

To know my biases: I’m not too keen on changing the banner for top 10 because - amid all the confusing stuff about rewards - it was actually very clear that top 25 would get the new Lucky Brew Tap. Never was there a plan to distinguish the top 10 banner and all runners knew this going into the event. Changing them for top 10 constitutes a structural change to the rewards and not just a tweak. I can see legitimate concerns coming from top 25’s as a result.

The top 10 vanity item set on the other hand was ruined by bad information and poor implementation which gives us the resulting disappointment. Dressing up these items with a cool particle effect or aura seems like a fair thing to do - and it should come as soon as we have the next event items under control.


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I have considered changing the whole design but I’m 100% certain that it would be divisive (even though I am certain that my change would be more beautiful). :-))

Particle fx (static and streaming/motion variants) are also being considered - they will be roughly as expensive (with respect to client frame rate) as an aura.


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I would absolutely love to see the top 10 vanity set changed, and so you have my full support in doing this! You seemed to be debating between adding an effect/aura or changing the vanity completely... perhaps you could do both, then make a voting thread for the top 10 to decide which one they like better... just my friendly suggestion! ^~^

[panedorin]

I would absolutely love to see the top 10 vanity set changed, and so you have my full support in doing this! You seemed to be debating between adding an effect/aura or changing the vanity completely... perhaps you could do both, then make a voting thread for the top 10 to decide which one they like better... just my friendly suggestion! ^~^I like this greed of urs :3 , thumbs up for this idea

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[Snowdager]

I like this greed of urs :3 , thumbs up for this idea

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It’s not greed haha, we (top 10) spent days non stop farming without sleep, and in return we received a vanity set anyone could get. All we want is recognition for our hard work.

[Cinco]

It’s definitely going to be either a particle or an aura :-)

After further consideration it seems like it would be an even bigger mistake for me to change the items entirely. Specifically for the outcry it will ignite among those who take issue with the quality of the preview post - let alone those who decided not to run and those who tempered their efforts due to the available info (and/ or lack thereof).


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[panedorin]

It’s not greed haha, we (top 10) spent days non stop farming without sleep, and in return we received a vanity set anyone could get. All we want is recognition for our hard work.Well yea, but as far as i know this is gonna be the first time something like this happened (if it will happen) and we should be a teeny bit more reserved maybe.

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[panedorin]

It’s definitely going to be either a particle or an aura :-)

After further consideration it seems like it would be an even bigger mistake for me to change the items entirely. Specifically for the outcry it will ignite among those who take issue with the quality of the preview post - let alone those who decided not to run and those who tempered their efforts due to the available info (and/ or lack thereof).


Sent from my iPhone using TapatalkCompletely understandable and correct. There are people out there who may have prepared for the event and didnt actually run because of those problems.

P.S: +1 for aura #auragang

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[Snowdager]

Well yea, but as far as i know this is gonna be the first time something like this happened (if it will happen) and we should be a teeny bit more reserved maybe.

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This is not the first time a lb vanity has been changed, however, it is the first time the event thread gave bad information (read quote)




...The top 10 vanity item set on the other hand was ruined by bad information and poor implementation which gives us the resulting disappointment. Dressing up these items with a cool particle effect or aura seems like a fair thing to do - and it should come as soon as we have the next event items under control.

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And cinco has Verified it will happen, (read his previous posts), also top 10 players where all over 10k points ahead of 11th place and under players, even if the vanity was different from the start, the same 10 ppl in each class would more than likely be top 10. It is not any top leaderboard players fault that the preview said “gleaming golden brawler” and the event chest said “golden brawler” leading the lb players think the 2 where different items entirely.

[Tookyo]

It’s definitely going to be either a particle or an aura :-)

After further consideration it seems like it would be an even bigger mistake for me to change the items entirely. Specifically for the outcry it will ignite among those who take issue with the quality of the preview post - let alone those who decided not to run and those who tempered their efforts due to the available info (and/ or lack thereof).


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*Says Tookyo :p

[Arfee]

It’s definitely going to be either a particle or an aura :-)

After further consideration it seems like it would be an even bigger mistake for me to change the items entirely. Specifically for the outcry it will ignite among those who take issue with the quality of the preview post - let alone those who decided not to run and those who tempered their efforts due to the available info (and/ or lack thereof).


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk+10000 enhancement. Doesnt matter which of those 2 as long as it is cool and noticable, main idea is to seperate it from the loots and make it look exclusive.

Gve us the *hard earned look* kind of effects √√√√

Tytytyty

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[Alfabeast]

I am very happy and thrilled with this aura or partical solution Cinco, thank you so much for the consideration

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[Alfabeast]

It’s definitely going to be either a particle or an aura :-)

After further consideration it seems like it would be an even bigger mistake for me to change the items entirely. Specifically for the outcry it will ignite among those who take issue with the quality of the preview post - let alone those who decided not to run and those who tempered their efforts due to the available info (and/ or lack thereof).


Sent from my iPhone using TapatalkWould I be overstepping by suggesting a green aura similar to heroic Grimm's aura, when all pieces of top10 vanity is equipped?
Kinda like the cryo set ya know but green in a clover shape @@

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[Snowdager]

Would I be overstepping by suggesting a green aura similar to heroic Grimm's aura, when all pieces of top10 vanity is equipped?
Kinda like the cryo set ya know but green in a clover shape @@

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I love this idea +100000

[panedorin]

Would I be overstepping by suggesting a green aura similar to heroic Grimm's aura, when all pieces of top10 vanity is equipped?
Kinda like the cryo set ya know but green in a clover shape @@

Sent from my LGLS450 using TapatalkNice one Alfa . It can even be shaped as a clover!
+1

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[Arfee]

Would I be overstepping by suggesting a green aura similar to heroic Grimm's aura, when all pieces of top10 vanity is equipped?
Kinda like the cryo set ya know but green in a clover shape @@

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[Prettylicious]

I have considered changing the whole design but I’m 100% certain that it would be divisive (even though I am certain that my change would be more beautiful). :-))

Particle fx (static and streaming/motion variants) are also being considered - they will be roughly as expensive (with respect to client frame rate) as an aura.


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Cinco, this back and forth decision is disappointing. It is NOT fair changing the reward after the event is over. Day 2 of the event,the screenshots of reward were posted and was confirmed that it is indeed the same as the one that can be looted from crates. You even justified it that the top 10 wont have to open crates to own the set. When you confirmed the reward everyone had a chance to either go on with top 10 or settle for lower rank. Now if you are going to change the reward after the event, does others still have a chance to make a decision to go for it? NO, right? I personally applaud you for recognizing that there was a mistake. Hope you learn from it to make future events and the game in general better. Lets move forward from this!

[panedorin]

Cinco, this back and forth decision is disappointing. It is NOT fair changing the reward after the event is over. Day 2 of the event,the screenshots of reward were posted and was confirmed that it is indeed the same as the one that can be looted from crates. You even justified it that the top 10 wont have to open crates to own the set. When you confirmed the reward everyone had a change to either go on with top 10 or settle for lower rank. Now if you are going to change the reward after the event, does others still have a chance to make a decision to go for it? NO, right? I personally applaud you for recognizing that there was a mistake. Hope you learn from it to make future events and the game in general better. Lets move forward from this!Well even with all those pictures and information, the name of the actual item was still different so therefore people would believe there is something special with it. People may have even ran the event for that very reason as they wanted a special vanity. And the core idea of a LB vanity to be accesable for any1 in the game with little to no effort, thats is the main issue.

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[Prettylicious]

Well even with all those pictures and information, the name of the actual item was still different so therefore people would believe there is something special with it. People may have even ran the event for that very reason as they wanted a special vanity. And the core idea of a LB vanity to be accesable for any1 in the game with little to no effort, thats is the main issue.

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If you say that is the main issue, may I remind you with the case of the balloon banners. People with little or no effort at all were able to obtain a LB reward. Even if the names were different the dev/mod confirmed they were in fact the same and gave the justification.

[QuaseT]

It’s definitely going to be either a particle or an aura :-)

After further consideration it seems like it would be an even bigger mistake for me to change the items entirely. Specifically for the outcry it will ignite among those who take issue with the quality of the preview post - let alone those who decided not to run and those who tempered their efforts due to the available info (and/ or lack thereof).


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In general its unfair for them to have the same set as the one from crates i think everybody can confirm. But... changing a lb vanity after it has given out should not be considered as a good idea. Imagine somebody doesnt like their set to look like that. Me personally wouldn't like to have an aura added to any of my vanity sets. You can still buy the original tradeable one but imagine somebody who would have run for such an aura vanity set, but not for the set as it looks now. As u change it u wont ever be able to make nobody complain now. I hope sts sees this as a suggestion to make all further lb sets unique so they don't need to change it afterwards. Im happy I dont have to decide what to do with those now, I have no answer.

[Itzitz]

+1 aura
-lb top10 mage

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[Arfee]

Well even with all those pictures and information, the name of the actual item was still different so therefore people would believe there is something special with it. People may have even ran the event for that very reason as they wanted a special vanity. And the core idea of a LB vanity to be accesable for any1 in the game with little to no effort, thats is the main issue.

Trimis de pe al meu SM-A530F folosind TapatalkWell said, i remmber anyone can buy it afor 3m on the 1st day alrdy. Tho there was alrdy rumor it was the same suit from crates on the 2nd and 3rd day we still held on the fact that they are diff suit basing on the name, and was alrdy too late to back down since we were alrdy up there enjoying the fun new gameplay of the event.

Not to mention, mostly who took the run was always the guys who run these lb's, and alrdy accepted the fact that it was a letdown.. but still continued grinding because its their nature to do so.
We just asked sts to not let this error happen ever again, and accepted the error.


But then..
*Cinco gladly took the initiative to make up for the error like a man, dont take it away from him.



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[EynSeren]

+10000 enhancement. Doesnt matter which of those 2 as long as it is cool and noticable, main idea is to seperate it from the loots and make it look exclusive.

Gve us the *hard earned look* kind of effects √√√√

Tytytyty

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Totally agree bro 100%. That will surely make players to run and makes the competition more exciting ;) Something worth the effort,time and gold. $$$

P.S Hoping for good stuff during Egg Hunt Event *hopeful eyes*


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[Fyrce]

Ah I see about the banner thing. If changing the vanity will be easier, then by all means. I think the Top 10 just wanted something to distinguish themselves for their time spent.

[Ibrazs]

It’s definitely going to be either a particle or an aura :-)

After further consideration it seems like it would be an even bigger mistake for me to change the items entirely. Specifically for the outcry it will ignite among those who take issue with the quality of the preview post - let alone those who decided not to run and those who tempered their efforts due to the available info (and/ or lack thereof).


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#auragang

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[Snowdager]

Well said, i remmber anyone can buy it afor 3m on the 1st day alrdy. Tho there was alrdy rumor it was the same suit from crates on the 2nd and 3rd day we still held on the fact that they are diff suit basing on the name, and was alrdy too late to back down since we were alrdy up there enjoying the fun new gameplay of the event.

Not to mention, mostly who took the run was always the guys who run these lb's, and alrdy accepted the fact that it was a letdown.. but still continued grinding because its their nature to do so.
We just asked sts to not let this error happen ever again, and accepted the error.


But then..
*Cinco gladly took the initiative to make up for the error like a man, dont take it away from him.



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I think we can safely say that the ppl who ran top 10 would still be the same whether the vanity was different originally or not...

[Snowdager]

Cinco, this back and forth decision is disappointing. It is NOT fair changing the reward after the event is over. Day 2 of the event,the screenshots of reward were posted and was confirmed that it is indeed the same as the one that can be looted from crates. You even justified it that the top 10 wont have to open crates to own the set. When you confirmed the reward everyone had a chance to either go on with top 10 or settle for lower rank. Now if you are going to change the reward after the event, does others still have a chance to make a decision to go for it? NO, right? I personally applaud you for recognizing that there was a mistake. Hope you learn from it to make future events and the game in general better. Lets move forward from this!

For one, I’d like to point out that no, we (the top 10, and the only ppl this actually is going to affect now...) were not aware it was exactly the same. If you had read the forums, it said “gleaming golden brawler” and if you would have clicked on the lb to see the rewards, it said “gleaming golden brawler vanity set”, and if you check the crates for the loot table, it just says golden brawler. While I was running top 10, I met at least 20 of the top 10 for each class, and none of them realized this either. Nobody would have ever thought a lb vanity would be lootable, because there has never been lootable lb vanity before. It also was never “confirmed” 100%, which is why Cinco said this:



...The top 10 vanity item set on the other hand was ruined by bad information and poor implementation which gives us the resulting disappointment. Dressing up these items with a cool particle effect or aura seems like a fair thing to do - and it should come as soon as we have the next event items under control.

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But there’s no need for you to complain about it anymore because cinco has confirmed it’s happening, and it should, I do hope you realize if this wasn’t changed there would be no way to prove who ran top 10, any top 25 could buy the vanity set and pretend they ran top 10.

[Cinco]

My decision has been made :-)

Locking thread.


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