Tying on Lb

[Vid AL]

The fact that "top 10" has turned into a top 20 really bugs me because people are tying allowing others who weren't gonna reach top 10 to hit top 10, which means the top 10 rewards will be given out 20 times.

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[Confessing]

And what's the problem with that?

[Vid AL]

And what's the problem with that?There's a big problem, this event is 2 weeks, I've been on top 10 since the start opening eggs and blowing my gold for 2 weeks now, if you don't see a problem with top 10 rewards being given out to more than 10 players each class then i don't know what to tell ya.

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[Origanix]

The players make it happen, I doubt Rogue lb will stay as it is anyways


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[Vid AL]

The players make it happen, I doubt Rogue lb will stay as it is anyways


Sent from my iPhone using TapatalkTrue, look at tanks also

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[Confessing]

Well then tell me another way this would work? Don't get me wrong I'm not saying more than 20-30 people should have the rewards but it seems like fair play if 2 or more people decide to tie for rewards. There have been many cases in the past where there is a tie and someone does one run or opens one egg and kicks the other out of top 10 though. I guess one solution could be a limited number of ties per class

[Vid AL]

Well then tell me another way this would work? Don't get me wrong I'm not saying more than 20-30 people should have the rewards but it seems like fair play if 2 or more people decide to tie for rewards. There have been many cases in the past where there is a tie and someone does one run or opens one egg and kicks the other out of top 10 though. I guess one solution could be a limited number of ties per classYa a limited amount of ties should happen because this is crazy

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[Eriel Delgado]

Tie rewards are wrong in so many levels, if a player is tied with another on lb they should be forced to break tie or no rewards! Some ran the event the legit way and had to struggle working their way around these players!

[marzeg]

For the most part take into consideration that most of the players who run LB are those that are rich enough to do so, with that being said. 9/10 of the events that occur consist of the same LB runners.
If players who are end-game are the only players capable of getting ANY spot on the LB (because they can pay and play to do so) is going to be problematic.

A majority of the ties that occur are not because, "I want this too, so let me tie with you for it." It happens to allow more players--those who try to get a spot on the LB but aren't able to do so easily because they are not as wealthy or well equipped as endgame players to have a chance at even bronze tier rewards.

The ties that occur on the leader board are intentional and usually occur between groups of friends and familiar players among the community--those who run each and every event.

If you force players to break a tie that's going to cause every event to become a brawl among the community that only the wealthy players can participate in.
We don't need that. We already have large disputes, complaints, and even people quitting the game due to economy issues.

[Remiem]

Thank you everyone for the valuable feedback here. We'll definitely take it into consideration in future events.

[Roblox]

Been playing for 5 years and I could never remember a time I was ever on the leaderboard or any friend of mine ever being on it. The riches always top players for the event and I don't think it's fair you guys do top 10 for each class because the game has changed so much just based off how the wealth work is being earned. I just think you guys should at least do top 250 at least because not everyone completes the event.

[Roblox]

Thank you everyone for the valuable feedback here. We'll definitely take it into consideration in future events.

Been playing for 5 years and I could never remember a time I was ever on the leaderboard or any friend of mine ever being on it. The riches always top players for the event and I don't think it's fair you guys do top 10 for each class because the game has changed so much just based off how the wealth work is being earned. I just think you guys should at least do top 250 at least because not everyone completes the event.

[Agnes]

Lb rewards should be unique, this way no point to call it top 10 if it’s 20 ppl. There’s always been ties but seems it’s just gettin worse..

[Vid AL]

Lb rewards should be unique, this way no point to call it top 10 if it’s 20 ppl. There’s always been ties but seems it’s just gettin worse..Yup, then the ones who relied on tying to get them into top 10 get mad at the end when someone pushes them off, you didn't deserve it in the first place[emoji52]

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[Fightbeast]

I didnt complain when you guys broke off the tie. I knew the kind of people you were and thus I expected it to happen. But your obnoxious comment just throws me off. We didnt deserve it?!! To that fact I post an ss of the number of runs I did. These excludes days i didnt run:

177264

You guys didnt run the map, some didnt even run once. Is that how LB's are defined? Just CS?!! Only one I saw running, even if a little bit, from the top 5 is just Ishaydear. I decided to stop running last three days to ensure maximum people met up and we could give the silver tier Jetpack to people who actually ran the event fair and square, with our ties. You guys just stayed in your taverns and enjoyed an LB "You DIDNT deserve". You guys cant compete in Lb's which actually take time to run. This is me speaking as an old Lb'r who has been there for almost all events playing in various classes. Even this event I played almost 20+ hrs each day till my hands started paining. Then some of you come and offer me gold to break off the ties?!! Is that the kind of people you are?

So please dont come and preach. You are the ones who didnt deserve it. Those who actually ran, they did.

[Kjeldran]

The problem with this kind of events to begin with is you are able to buy points via auction. I think devs should have already anticipated this as being an issue way back. The logical thing would have been is to allow eggs to only give points when it is farmed by the player and cannot be traded in any way, just like energy essence and points is accumulated only thru farming efforts.

[Vid AL]

The problem with this kind of events to begin with is you are able to buy points via auction. I think devs should have already anticipated this as being an issue way back. The logical thing would have been is to allow eggs to only give points when it is farmed by the player and cannot be traded in any way, just like energy essence and points is accumulated only thru farming efforts.This event is made for those who don't have the time to run a normal event that requires a massive amount of time out of each day to stay on the leaderboard, i ran top 10, yes i opened eggs, yes i farmed eggs by playing the event, i don't have all day to play a game, i have a job that i go to everyday. So no this event is not a problem, the people still complaining about it are the problem, let us hard workers have an event to ourselves, you can have the rest because i can assure you i won't be running.

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[Fightbeast]

What 'hard work' are you talking about?! Staying at your tavern while buying eggs?! No other game has a LB where people secure it without actually even playing the event. I mean the thought itself is ridiculous. I do hope this debacle isn't continued for a third time in a row next year and people actually get lb by running the event.

[Vid AL]

What 'hard work' are you talking about?! Staying at your tavern while buying eggs?! No other game has a LB where people secure it without actually even playing the event. I mean the thought itself is ridiculous. I do hope this debacle isn't continued for a third time in a row next year and people actually get lb by running the event.I was talking about working in real life, something most people who run the egg event do, good luck getting the egg event switched up because it won't happen, this is the only event anyone can participate in, not everyone can go 2 weeks during a normal event, some of us work and want to hit lb for normal events but we can't because bills have to be paid. Stop complaining about an event that isn't gonna change and worry about how you're gonna get rich to run next years egg event.

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[Fightbeast]

Dude, just stop complaining how you cant reach LB during normal events because you have real life work. We all have work, just some of us decide to invest particular times of the year to get our desired goals in the game. You keep complaining about it as if you are some great dude who is the only one who works in real life. Either you invest time to get the lb or you dont. That's a fact for any game lb. And dont worry about me being rich or not; I am plenty rich. Just I dont like to show off like you do :)

[Vid AL]

Dude, just stop complaining how you cant reach LB during normal events because you have real life work. We all have work, just some of us decide to invest particular times of the year to get our desired goals in the game. You keep complaining about it as if you are some great dude who is the only one who works in real life. Either you invest time to get the lb or you dont. That's a fact for any game lb. And dont worry about me being rich or not; I am plenty rich. Just I dont like to show off like you do :)Some of us can't invest 20 hours a day into a game, i work non stop during the weekdays, my hours don't change, I'm not taking 2 weeks off of work just to run an event either.

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[Zeridor]

How many lb events are there where you get lb by spending hours a day I think 1 event is good and enough the way it is that you need to spend enormous amount of gold to get top 10 I have personally spended like 120m+ so why can't we normal ppl have at least 1 event to our self? Look STS get more money from this event bcs rich guys need a lot more gold to run second gold go to poor ones that run it I think this event is great and it should stay it is 1 event like this others normal lb event.

[marzeg]

Some of us can't invest 20 hours a day into a game, i work non stop during the weekdays, my hours don't change, I'm not taking 2 weeks off of work just to run an event either.

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Soo basically you're complaining about leaderboard for events even though you just said yourself that you basically don't invest as much time, effort and dedication towards as other people do? lol.

People reschedule their shifts, people play at work, home and school to secure a spot on LB's when they are determined to obtain it and you want to slightly change that to suit ur needs because you don't want to have to invest that much determination??? :confused::confused:

[Agnes]

Lb is about competition, there’s no competition in spam auction and buying eggs. This is The Who have more gold lb :D

[marian.bumbar]

Games allow it and players are abusing it . Been like this since the game started.


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[Willl]

Mmmh I am sure that when sts made lb rewards for events they didn't think about possible ties players could make (but I have seen this happening since when I started play back in 2013). Still I think ties is a way of cooperation between friends, to share their goals, together..I don't see any problem with it, even if I must say 20+ rogues for a top 10 this time was an exaggeration XD.
I clearly find very useless complain on how this event worked since it has been discussed for long time before it even started, and devs made a light adjustment to it (about points). You should be aware that there are many many lb major events now: winter, goblin, elondrian, halloween, valentine, and only this one has a different way to achieve top spots, you were aware of it so if you didn't like just don't run it, don't make rage posts towards other players, and it's not even true that only ishaydear was running..I have seen at least 2 players in my guild who won top 10 that kept running everytime I was online..not be in your party doesn't mean they are not running, lol (don't judge all group of people same way please).
I understand rage caused by leaderbords and for lot of time spent (gave up at 2 spots far from spectral golem so I know the effort), but don't point finger towards who won it and towards this event system which has been cleared way before.
I didn't run this lb, peace.

[Fightbeast]

I ll just clarify a few things. I DIDNT MAKE A RAGE POST for your kind information. The OP said something and I countered him with my legit argument. Second I didnt even complain the day LB ties broke. It was his statement that made me even reply back. Third, prove to me those people who made their way to top 10 did it without spamming eggs from cs(sorry you cant do that, because they couldn't have), also I didn't even mention top 10, i said top 5. I know some individuals who got it both by running and opening eggs. Fourth, at whom was I pointing fingers?! Dont just comment because you have to. Get your facts right first. I was just stating the fact that this shouldn't be repeated next year and the comment was a response to that individual who said the people who didn't get top 10 didnt deserve it. Fifth, the devs did say the points changes will be made; but how much points will be awarded wasnt mentioned. And come on, 50 bonus points over a duration of 1-2min run is nothing compared to spamming eggs. Last, who are you to ask us not to run? As you yourself mentioned you didnt run, so you obviously wont understand the frustration of people who actually ran the event legit. Like I said, I didnt complain the ties broke. I expected it to. But many others who ran did pm me devastated on the results after putting so much effort on it.
And I know the likes of you band together to ensure such things keep happening in the game.

[Willl]

LOL calm down I don't need to prove who run or who opened eggs, I tell you I have seen some running a lot..if you don't believe it's your problem..and by the way you re tipying I can say yes..you are raging.
"who actually run the event legit".. open eggs is legit, or it's you to decide event rules, what is legit and what it isn't?
I didn't run this leaderbord, but this does not means I can't talk or I can't know lb dynamics. "Dont just comment if you have to" I comment if I see something wrong and I like to give my opinion..if it's a problem for you I m so sorry..
I m also sorry you took my opinion so personal, I was just refered to some people I have seen running for hours and I don't like you consider all people same way.
P.S. ties are not broke only cause they didn't benefit you..I don't even know if you won it or not but you re really going over a simple opinion of a player on a forum, chill a bit.

[Bundlos]

@arkua/jaaaguaarr One of whom was botting the entire event you mean

[Fightbeast]

It's sad how you dont understand simple words. I said Legit 'Ran', running means playing the event zone. Also I dont have to learn LB dynamics from you. We all know what you did to secure your place in top players lb. Clearing fl, leaving guild and botting has a ring to it? What I earn in game is pure hard work, so I prefer it when hard work is what is rewarded.

[Willl]

Don't complain if devs not gonna hear your "suggestions" if you transform everything in a drama, happy to see he needed to send the gf to trashtalk, didn't expect that XD.
Just in case you re talking to me I didn't play event a lot, but just at start. Anyway follow blindly some talks really make people appear very ehhm "superficial" sometimes..but okay am not gonna cry for that ^^

[Willl]

It's sad how you dont understand simple words. I said Legit 'Ran', running means playing the event zone. Also I dont have to learn LB dynamics from you. We all know what you did to secure your place in top players lb. Clearing fl, leaving guild and botting has a ring to it? What I earn in game is pure hard work, so I prefer it when hard work is what is rewarded.

Accept insta officer promotion cause "strong player" sounds hard work..ikr

[Bundlos]

Don't complain if devs not gonna hear your "suggestions" if you transform everything in a drama, happy to see he needed to send the gf to trashtalk, didn't expect that XD.
Just in case you re talking to me I didn't play event a lot, but just at start. Anyway follow blindly some talks really make people appear very ehhm "superficial" sometimes..but okay am not gonna cry for that ^^

I sent myself ^-^
I'm not going to say anything more because it's pointless arguing with people like you. People will automatically understand what I meant. Facts aren't trashtalk. (n.n)/

[Willl]

It's sad how you dont understand simple words. I said Legit 'Ran', running means playing the event zone. Also I dont have to learn LB dynamics from you. We all know what you did to secure your place in top players lb. Clearing fl, leaving guild and botting has a ring to it? What I earn in game is pure hard work, so I prefer it when hard work is what is rewarded.

Btw if you wanna trashtalk let's clear what you mean with "We all know" the group of players who hate someone cause they are jealous and use their guildchat/pm and their officer/master rank to brainwash simple guildies, and try spread more hate just around arlor. Pathetic but okay..

[Willl]

I sent myself ^-^
I'm not going to say anything more because it's pointless arguing with people like you. People will automatically understand what I meant. Facts aren't trashtalk. (n.n)/

Facts? can be reported to sts if you are sure about it instead of repeat what you hear like a parrot, and it's you actually breaking TOS, harrassing other player on forum it is.

[Fightbeast]

FYI, am not in any guild atm. And I didnt even trashtalk. Check dictionary for the meaning of trashtalk. You re welcome to join my 'no guild', where we brainwash other people. Also if you re so clean, you allow sts to check your Jaaguaar account for abnormalities?!
Anyway, the topic has deviated from what I was actually asking for. A change for next year lb system.

[Willl]

FYI, am not in any guild atm. And I didnt even trashtalk. Check dictionary for the meaning of trashtalk. You re welcome to join my 'no guild', where we brainwash other people. Also if you re so clean, you allow sts to check your Jaaguaar account for abnormalities?!
Anyway, the topic has deviated from what I was actually asking for. A change for next year lb system.


the proof you took it personal, I wasnt talking about you when I said that XD I love who claim to do hard work and fair player and see such things xD. Play own game doesn't mean we have eyes closed..oki?
gonna end it here devs knows what to do,
have a nice day

[Oakmaiden]

In other games, the first player to reach the points in the tie wins, the the person who reached the points second drops a place. No such thing as a tie.

[marzeg]

In other games, the first player to reach the points in the tie wins, the the person who reached the points second drops a place. No such thing as a tie.

That's going to cause an issue like I stated. I understand what everyone is pointing towards in terms of tie breaking mechanics, but you all can't just expect everyone to be happy if tie breaking is implemented, especially in the ways that you guys are inferring. People have been playing this game since it started, have items that cease to exist and it has even gotten to the point of people insisting the game developers to raise the maximum gold cap.

Even if we were to revert to allowing LB points to only be obtained via event physical participation top ten is going to be very much impossible to obtain for F2P players because they aren't going to be competing just for event points, this also goes for the amount of currency (Actual cash, in game gold and platinum) that can be spent competitions among the top 10 EVERY event. Energy Kits.

There are always two sides to every suggestion -- those who agree and those who don't. It's no different from the Ebon Aegis controversy.

Warriors are happy they have it, you change it they will be highly upset.
Rogues and mages don't like it, if it isn't changed in some way as more warriors obtain access to this weapon it may become an issue in PvP as they mention it already is.

You add tie breaking or forcefully enforce it in some way, people will be highly upset.
You leave tie breaking as it currently is, as the game gains popularity it will become more and more common and eventually turn into an issue.


I think instead of just arguing and complaining about these things everyone should at least give insights on their POV (what you like and dislike about tie breaking) so we can figure out a way to approach these without offending or disregarding the opposing side of the community.