Aoa membership

[Appleisaac]

How does someone get into aoa? I know that they need to be reccomended by a dev or a current member, but I want to know how most people get in. I made a guy locked on lvl 1 this week for helping newbies, and I would like to be able to have him in aoa... I understand that you probably cant just let me in, but I would like to at least know how everything works

Btw the helper I made is named Applehelper

[WoundedEagle]

I would suggest a PM to Pandar. Some are watched carefully by us ambassadors and then recommended. We will have an application for AoA membership later.

[Appleisaac]

Thanks wound :)

[Artemis]

Wound -.- Stole my question :P

[WoundedEagle]

Wound -.- Stole my question :P

Sowwy :(

[Urqui]

We will have an application for AoA membership later.

Sweet!

[Sassinya]

Lead and be lead, all good leaders must be adept at both. Knowledge of game play, stats, how to beat what and to whom to give what are important factors .. or know how to get answers you don't readily have. Also a great attitude, the only stupid questions are the ones no one asks, we're tasked to make welcome all new players so being open, approachable and kind is a must. I speak only to what I seek in a person who will win my vote.
Good luck! You're pro-active approach here has not gone unnoticed :-)

[zuesmirza]

Does helping at game also count? Or only helping at forums count? If helping at game counts? What is exact definition of help?

Helping new players to kill boss, helping them to locate the appropriate NPC they need to talk to compelete the quest (explaining them the work of arrow below thier feet),helping players by telling them abt different types of rarity of weapons by the color of weapon name (not the color of weapon itself),helping players by telling them the shield they have been searching for all day long is nt a shield bt a shield vanity given as deal of the day nd is nt available anymore nw,helping them by donating some gold so they can buy the shiny jewel x-bow,helping ppl with commands,how to enter trade and secure trade,providing the proper fb page link and web address of the dark legends to get the latest news and teaser related to game and to tell him that yes dark legends is nt just a false rumor bt a game under development by STS.

If all of these are counted in 'helping' I would already have been in AOA coz I do stuff like this daily.

[KTpantyhose]

just be active on forums. help as much as you can. be nice to everyone. don't pester anyone constantly about getting into aoa. just do your thing. you'll get noticed haha.

[NECROREAPER]

What I tell everyone who asks about becoming AoA is: just keep doing what you're doing and be yourself. If you're purposefully trying to be helpful to get into AoA and get noticed, trust me, we can tell and it doesn't help your cause. I'm not saying this to be a downer, its just that we have so many people who want to join just for the status, even though literally *every* single person will say that they aren't doing it just for that.


As I said, just be yourself and keep doing what you've been doing, if it's what we're looking for, we'll come find you, no need to find us.

[WoundedEagle]

Does helping at game also count? Or only helping at forums count? If helping at game counts? What is exact definition of help?

Helping new players to kill boss, helping them to locate the appropriate NPC they need to talk to compelete the quest (explaining them the work of arrow below thier feet),helping players by telling them abt different types of rarity of weapons by the color of weapon name (not the color of weapon itself),helping players by telling them the shield they have been searching for all day long is nt a shield bt a shield vanity given as deal of the day nd is nt available anymore nw,helping them by donating some gold so they can buy the shiny jewel x-bow,helping ppl with commands,how to enter trade and secure trade,providing the proper fb page link and web address of the dark legends to get the latest news and teaser related to game and to tell him that yes dark legends is nt just a false rumor bt a game under development by STS.

If all of these are counted in 'helping' I would already have been in AOA coz I do stuff like this daily.
Helping both is more Guardian style. Helping in game on a level 10 or under twink in Forest Haven is what you want to be seen doing if you're looking to be an Ambassador, tbh.

[zuesmirza]

Does helping at game also count? Or only helping at forums count? If helping at game counts? What is exact definition of help?

Helping new players to kill boss, helping them to locate the appropriate NPC they need to talk to compelete the quest (explaining them the work of arrow below thier feet),helping players by telling them abt different types of rarity of weapons by the color of weapon name (not the color of weapon itself),helping players by telling them the shield they have been searching for all day long is nt a shield bt a shield vanity given as deal of the day nd is nt available anymore nw,helping them by donating some gold so they can buy the shiny jewel x-bow,helping ppl with commands,how to enter trade and secure trade,providing the proper fb page link and web address of the dark legends to get the latest news and teaser related to game and to tell him that yes dark legends is nt just a false rumor bt a game under development by STS.

If all of these are counted in 'helping' I would already have been in AOA coz I do stuff like this daily.
Helping both is more Guardian style. Helping in game on a level 10 or under twink in Forest Haven is what you want to be seen doing if you're looking to be an Ambassador, tbh.

Ummm.. So if sum1 asks for help I should tell him:

Lets first go to forest heaven.. :-D
Or
Wait let me get my lvl 10 twink then I will answer your querry or help you.

LMAO..

Well I'm not any attention seeker. I just help ppl coz I know how I felt when I was stuck at sum place nd no1 helped me out and the times when sum good old fellow players helped me out and coz I like to help..

Bt making a lvl 10 twink with snowball launcher and naming it "xyzhelper" and forcing ppl to ask for help sounds crazy.

Only ppl searching for a repo will do this stuff..

Ummm... maybe you guys need a new system.

Well I have just expressed my views dnt want any flame fight and if any of my words offended any1 related to this thread or AOA then I'm really sorry..

Had these questions and views in my mind for a long time bt did nt really cared much abt posting it, saw this post and your great answers so could'nt resist myself..

[NECROREAPER]

No worries.

I think what people don't get about AoA is that we don't have to be on our AoA characters to be fulfilling our AoA "duties," which aren't really duties in the first place because we were doing those things long before we were appointed to be AoA.

AoA =/= Lvl 10 or below twink who spams "N e 1 haz ?" in Forest Haven or goes out of their way to help people.

AoA = Players in the community recognized by STS to be helpful and as such, STS has asked us to be present and well known in game to be of extra assistance to any player who might be in need of some help.

[Zeus]

Think of it like this. AoA and GoA are like sister programs. As of right now, it seems to be that GoA/SG program is dead or put on hold.

Take a look around, people who should be GoA/SG IMO are becoming AoAs. It's not a bad thing, but I don't think it's quite a proper way to reward them for their sagely wisdom on the forums.

As for becoming AoA, honestly, even though I hate to say it, all you need to do is become friends with many AoA members, set a good image around them that you are helpful and you will be good to go. Now, I'm not saying that people do this, but the way the application system is set up, it can be heavily abused in this manner. All it takes is a little charisma, insight, manners, and good behavior. Charisma is the most important part because if you aren't really deemed well by the AoA committee, you are likely not going to get in.

[Urqui]

As for becoming AoA, honestly, even though I hate to say it, all you need to do is become friends with many AoA members, set a good image around them that you are helpful and you will be good to go.
:distrust:
Ohh...

[Redbridge]

Well done to the OP for offering their services to help newer players. Just do what has been suggested above and help try to integrate the newer players into the game. Necro's advice is spot on. Don't just stand around advertising ur helping, actively go looking for opportunities to assist, but always remember not everyone actually wants assistance, and be understanding of more experienced players who don't want their gaming experience ruined by chat box spammers. Don't worry about not being noticed as just by posting here and PMing Pandar I suspect STS will be watching you over the next few weeks/months. Thanks again.

Most definately don't want to derail the original posters thread but what you have said Apollo really isn't needed in this thread and also isn't helpful for the understanding and clarity of newer member on the forums, as it isn't a balanced view of the facts.

Think of it like this. AoA and GoA are like sister programs. As of right now, it seems to be that GoA/SG program is dead or put on hold.

Take a look around, people who should be GoA/SG IMO are becoming AoAs. It's not a bad thing, but I don't think it's quite a proper way to reward them for their sagely wisdom on the forum.

Could you post where on the forums STS have announced the GoA/SG is dead or is this just your personal opinion? This debate has been run soooooo many times. My view is the COMMUNITY has put both on hold by all the controversial and often childish debates, and until an amazing candidate reveals themselves there simplY wont be any further announcements, as STS now have to be very very selective. The GoA and AoA programmes are totally different, but only my view.


As for becoming AoA, honestly, even though I hate to say it, all you need to do is become friends with many AoA members, set a good image around them that you are helpful and you will be good to go. Now, I'm not saying that people do this, but the way the application system is set up, it can be heavily abused in this manner. All it takes is a little charisma, insight, manners, and good behavior. Charisma is the most important part because if you aren't really deemed well by the AoA committee, you are likely not going to get in.

I unfortunately have to agree with ya, the AoA programme needs to be very careful with its selection process, but also the candidates need to be very patient and understanding that selection won't be an overnight thing and that STS will probably take weeks or even months to select appropriate candidates.

I def don't wanna detract from the OP so any further GoA debate should be on an alternate thread. My comments are to ensure balance only. As always feel free to PM me if you think I need pointing in the right direction.

[Whirlzap]

Gonna say the EXACT truth to you, and yes it is painful, but I'm gonna be nice and tell you the full length.

1. Do NOT ask for AoA. You will NEVER or have a very low chance if you ask for it.

2. If you're thinking about a reward, walking around with a Party Hat with people mobbing you everywhere is not what reward means. This is not our reward, this is our job. Besides, you should not even be thinking about a reward.

Anyways, best of luck in getting noticed. And remember, threads like these get you anti-noticed.
Notice how no one who makes a thread on becoming a GoA ever gets in.
Hint hint.

[RedRyder]

The only thing similar with GoA and AoA are the terms for getting picked. GoA isn't a job at all and we don't have to do a thing after getting the status. AoA's help new players go the right direction.

GoA = no further duties
AoA = living starter guides

GoA's are just people rewarded for good deeds with a vanity shield. Nothing more, nothing less.
Everyone assumes that GoA's have to be like Alterra police and have to be active after receiving one, as if their only role in life afterward is to dedicate themselves to the game. It's really annoying.

If you're asking for a role, it's pretty apparent that you want the perks more than anything else.

[Redbridge]

I think to be fair to the OP, they are just asking how to be considered. There isn't any public info around on how to be considered as it is just being finalised, so personally i'd like to praise people for putting themselves forward, but communicate the obvious concerns that would arise.

I think we should welcome with open arms all offers of help but on the understanding that all that can be guaranteed is that STS will monitor their chat logs over the next few weeks/months to assess their suitability.

Also for info, it has been discussed (privately) in great length that new additions to the AoA programme may well be unlikely to get any rewards/vanities to start off with, so there may well be no immediate gain to being accepted.

[Roc]

How does someone get into aoa? I know that they need to be reccomended by a dev or a current member, but I want to know how most people get in. I made a guy locked on lvl 1 this week for helping newbies, and I would like to be able to have him in aoa... I understand that you probably cant just let me in, but I would like to at least know how everything works

Btw the helper I made is named Applehelper

I'm not in AoA so I don't know the "ins" to get into the program ;) but I will say that there is absolutely nothing wrong with asking how everything works and being preemptive about having a low level character. Kind, courteous, patient, and giving your best effort, cultivate these things and demonstrate them and something will come of it. If not AoA then plenty of new players who will appreciate what you are doing :)

Edit: Redbridge you ninja, you!~ (taking the words right out of my mouth)

[Onaraasider]

one question for all you who want to be in aoa: why?

[Zeus]

Well done to the OP for offering their services to help newer players. Just do what has been suggested above and help try to integrate the newer players into the game. Necro's advice is spot on. Don't just stand around advertising ur helping, actively go looking for opportunities to assist, but always remember not everyone actually wants assistance, and be understanding of more experienced players who don't want their gaming experience ruined by chat box spammers. Don't worry about not being noticed as just by posting here and PMing Pandar I suspect STS will be watching you over the next few weeks/months. Thanks again.

Most definately don't want to derail the original posters thread but what you have said Apollo really isn't needed in this thread and also isn't helpful for the understanding and clarity of newer member on the forums, as it isn't a balanced view of the facts.


Could you post where on the forums STS have announced the GoA/SG is dead or is this just your personal opinion? This debate has been run soooooo many times. My view is the COMMUNITY has put both on hold by all the controversial and often childish debates, and until an amazing candidate reveals themselves there simplY wont be any further announcements, as STS now have to be very very selective. The GoA and AoA programmes are totally different, but only my view.



I unfortunately have to agree with ya, the AoA programme needs to be very careful with its selection process, but also the candidates need to be very patient and understanding that selection won't be an overnight thing and that STS will probably take weeks or even months to select appropriate candidates.

I def don't wanna detract from the OP so any further GoA debate should be on an alternate thread. My comments are to ensure balance only. As always feel free to PM me if you think I need pointing in the right direction.

I'm trying to keep this short, since I'm on a jog, but I believe in Javier's thread, he had a quote from Flip saying something like, "How many GOA/SG do you think we need." Maybe I'm over analyzing, but to me along with the new content coming up, it seems that the GoA and SG are put on hold for now. As for them being sister programs, later when I'm on my computer, I can find a quote from Pandar saying such.

As for the personal opinion how some people who deserve the roles of GoA/SG yet are handed the roles of AoA, meh, that's just my opinion. I don't know how to debate that one without sounding biased. Will think of an argument later, but will PM you it instead, as you said that you didn't want to derail this thread.

Cheers, buddy

~Parth

[Zeus]

one question for all you who want to be in aoa: why?

For a similar reason you did, I assume. :) Everybody has their reasons :)

[Redbridge]

I'm trying to keep this short, since I'm on a jog,

A JOG??? crikey!!!

Cheers for the response. speak later buddy d=('-')=b

[noobmigo]

Woah so many threadz.

[Redbridge]

Woah so many threadz.

IKR, changing subject totally. Facebook's just told me, you and I got the same b'day noob. Have a good one. ;)

[noobmigo]

IKR, changing subject totally. Facebook's just told me, you and I got the same b'day noob. Have a good one. ;)

I just set something random for that FB Burfday, I tink.
Unless I didn't. Cos' me b-day is the 16th.

[Redbridge]

I just set something random for that FB Burfday, I tink.
Unless I didn't. Cos' me b-day is the 16th.

Me too.... Hippy bidet for 16th

[noobmigo]

Me too.... Hippy bidet for 16th

Well then, cheers!

[Appleisaac]

Gonna say the EXACT truth to you, and yes it is painful, but I'm gonna be nice and tell you the full length.

1. Do NOT ask for AoA. You will NEVER or have a very low chance if you ask for it.

2. If you're thinking about a reward, walking around with a Party Hat with people mobbing you everywhere is not what reward means. This is not our reward, this is our job. Besides, you should not even be thinking about a reward.

Anyways, best of luck in getting noticed. And remember, threads like these get you anti-noticed.
Notice how no one who makes a thread on becoming a GoA ever gets in.
Hint hint.

I don't want a reward :) i honestly think helping newbies is fun! I just didn't think I would ever have the luck of actually meeting aoa members while playing on my helper twink. I have only ever met two aoa members anyway :)

And for everyone that said "shame on you for asking" I really just wanted to know how the system worked... Really I wasn't begging or anything. I completely understand how you guys could think I was though... :-)

[Onaraasider]

For all you who want to be in aoa answer this question: if aoa didnt have vanity items or weren't getting vanity items,would you, honestly, want to be in aoa?I know most of you will lie and say "of course". but i want a detailed response and if i believe it i might possibly recommend some people for aoa.

[Urqui]

It'd be awesome to be an AoA
Because when I started playing I didn't under stand anything! Was my first MMO i ever played, nobody helped me out as a noob
Once I even asked what ping was in like 3 towns & no reply-.-
Wish AoA was around when I started playing:P
& to have people now in a guild to specifically helping new players out is pretty cool:)
Having new comers joining & seeing a friendly environment would want them to stay & play more, not just get on, get ignored, quit, & find something else to do...
Also not all players speak only English;) It'd be wise to have some AoA members that know another language other than English lol:P

Just my thoughts;)

[Appleisaac]

For all you who want to be in aoa answer this question: if aoa didnt have vanity items or weren't getting vanity items,would you, honestly, want to be in aoa?I know most of you will lie and say "of course". but i want a detailed response and if i believe it i might possibly recommend some people for aoa.

Yeah I would my reasons are in here.

http://www.spacetimestudios.com/showthread.php?43733-Noobish-confusion...&p=493490#post493490

[Elyseon]

Well feel free to help, just because ur not an ambassador by no means means you cant help. If you think it does mean that, u dont belong in the AoA

[Appleisaac]

Well feel free to help, just because ur not an ambassador by no means means you cant help. If you think it does mean that, u dont belong in the AoA

Your very right about that. I was just wondering how I could get in :). This thread's purpose is starting to vary greatly from the reason it was started i should stop posting on it now...

[Elyseon]

As stated in an early post, we are working on having an application, as of now it a process of noticing and approval

[Lowlyspy]

you seem very serious about not wanting in for the vanity IMO. We will have the application process out soonish, I can't wait to see what you say ;)

[Onaraasider]

Here is my story of how i got in to aoa, so you all can understand:
I myself was thrilled with the idea of AoA, it was a great idea, as a newbie, i helped other newbies as a newbie.I didnt just answer questions, i gave tours around the whole kingdom of alterra(at the time i was lvl 30), i gave my unwanted items, and i taught them how to make money.then as time passed,new players began to become more independent and wanted to learn stuff on their own,so i stopped helping and months later(started pl in june-july)aoa was born. i found out about aoa on the day they were choosing people so i wasn't able to get in,but i was determined. I didnt think about people watching and spying on me every second.then i later met a good friend in aoa,Ktpantyhose, she after a day or two saw me helping new players, the way i helped and little frustration. i ended up helping her alot, even though i wasn't in Aoa,it felt like it. i had no problem not being in aoa,it still gave me a reason to help ppl. Then days later i was recommended for aoa and watched by many members(i didnt know they were watching). i met moderator7 and we became friends as well, he is now pandar, the leader of aoa.A day or two later i was entered into aoa,along with a friend named DanielRh. i didnt find out about it untill late at night when siejo came up and said congratz, and told me why.I didn't want to be in aoa for a vanity,but i wanted to be in it to be looked up upon for help.

[Pandar]

First of all, there is nothing wrong with expressing interest in the group. If AoA sounds like something you'd like to do, that's awesome! No reason to hold it back, I want to hear from everyone who is interested so I can keep tabs on them later. What you should not expect, however, is to get in instantly. It might take a very long time. The reason the current Ambassadors were selected is because they have a long history of helping out new players just because. Saying you want to get in and then help out for a week does not qualify.

This isn't to say "You aren't good enough" or anything like that at all. The group was meant to reward those who already do these things because that is how they are. It is not for everyone, and that is OK. We even had one Ambassador leave the group because he felt like he didn't want to spend that much time helping new players. I have a lot of respect for that.

As far as getting in, right now everything is being done through recommendations. And contrary to what Apollo had to say, it isn't just making friends with all of the Ambassadors and putting on your help face. The Ambassadors are experienced players who can easily spot the difference between a faker and a true Ambassador. At the end of the day, just help out new players and be a presence in the community. Eventually you'll be recognized for your efforts.

We will eventually be opening up applications, so the process may change a bit - but we're still going to rely strongly on the judgement of our Ambassadors.

[Onaraasider]

trust me you will be spotted if you really help

[Rangedexprt]

Ok first of all, for me, vanities were never my thing, but if it means that i represent someone who you can look up to for help, count me in! I would love to help people in need especcially noobs because i know how it feels to be new and not know what to do or where everything is or how to make money or how to lvl up..... The list goes on. Anyway, I would want to be part of this guild, i think its a great idea to have a whole guild dedicated to helping the "legends" community. Please recomend me my characer name is rangedexprt