How to fix pvp

[Olympus]

So there have been a few threads recently discussing a few fixes to getting pvp more active. I agree that we should disable awakens. I also propose something else:

Create a specific PvP bracket, or PvP toon. This way, all pvp players could conglomerate into one specific level. I also propose that:

New gears be created for this level, with each of the different weapons being available for each class (sword&shield, hammer, sword/daggers, bow/gun, staff)
- each weapon has different procs that enhance the play styles of each weapon, to encourage different ways and combinations to achieve victories.
- armor/helm/belt/ring/pendant/artefact all have similar stats, but with potency/assault/fitness/will options to encourage different builds

Other threads have already discussed potential Revenue opportunities for STS, feel free to add anything new, but please don’t go too off track.

Cheers

[Vid AL]

They won't change pvp at all, they made the game fall fast from what it used to be, pvp is what keeps al running mainly, i hope they know since awakens came inyo the picture they not only lost alot of players they lost alot of activeness on the game, I'm an og pvper and i can't stand pvp now.

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[iamlepre]

They changed players for money (awokens)
And maybe never will chande it again.

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[Olympus]

They won't change pvp at all, they made the game fall fast from what it used to be, pvp is what keeps al running mainly, i hope they know since awakens came inyo the picture they not only lost alot of players they lost alot of activeness on the game, I'm an og pvper and i can't stand pvp now.

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I see your point however I would argue that their main market isn’t PvP... I would argue they make far more off of PvE events. Just look at the leaderboards - there are a large number of people out there who would prefer gold loot or movement speed awakens to ensure a banner or reward.

I think bringing back PvP leaderboards, resetting KDRs every season, and simply monitoring any account in the leaderboard positions would be a huge step in the right direction: I also would argue that revamping PvP would encourage older players to return, new ones to come to the game, and that would definitely have a positive impact on STS’ revenue.

I do understand that the majority of players who would grind for completely maxed out sets are probably PvPers though, but surely STS understands that their game will completely die if they continue to let it continue on its current trend.

[Fyrce]

What's wrong w/ playing in free for all??

[Gufugufutwo]

They won't change pvp at all, they made the game fall fast from what it used to be, pvp is what keeps al running mainly, i hope they know since awakens came inyo the picture they not only lost alot of players they lost alot of activeness on the game, I'm an og pvper and i can't stand pvp now.



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And that’s where ur wrong lol, it’s an mmo, pvp doesn’t run this game, farming and grinding does, if u want a pvp game go and play a moba or a fps, mmo is mainly fun by pve/co-op not pvp. Also if U can’t stand pvp just don’t do it. Simple.

[Olympus]

And that’s where ur wrong lol, it’s an mmo, pvp doesn’t run this game, farming and grinding does, if u want a pvp game go and play a moba or a fps, mmo is mainly fun by pve/co-op not pvp. Also if U can’t stand pvp just don’t do it. Simple.

Except this game is also a PvP game. There are still a large number of people who play the game solely for PvP, that’s why I am asking for some changes to improve the quality of pvp. It’s likely the numbers of pvp players are still as much as they used to be, just that they are spread across so many levels. That’s why I propose the changes that I have.

[Olympus]

What's wrong w/ playing in free for all??


Mages and Tanks aren’t really FFA type classes at a lot of levels, plus, no-one really plays it anyway. Which is the point of this thread, to discuss/shed a light on the current problems, and how to improve them

[Thepvpcrush]

Budy I don t have any ideea either on how to fix pvp but not gonna lie this would be one of the last changes of this game to survive cus a few mins ago i checked all low lvls pvp 1-15 nothing bruh just nothing
I saw many haters about this ideea talking without any sense guys let me tell you something pvp was the real deal back in times no pve just pvp Elite twinks The god army Ikronosdivine and many other guilds which we're on the top now they are dead just imagine the activity of those players playing for years having fun and suddenly booom everything it s gone haters may have other ideeas but tbh idc im 100% bringing low lvl pvp back to life would bring back thousands of players and I would quit pve if this **** happens cus in my opinion low lvl pvp was and it will be forever the real fun deal of this game and no one can change this ideea i play this game with big pauses between since 2014 and I know what im saying on this terms soo i would really like to see sts doing something about this game putting in youtube adds or something like that and the most important thing i would really like to see low lvl pvp back and im not the only one who thinks like this have fun reading this roman guys

[dynastygaming]

pvp is ruined by awakes making normal players at huge disparity between the rich.Because you know in endgame 76 pvp you need 500m just to compete and nothing less because youll just be squashed. maybe in future expansion no more awakes or more ways to reduce the inflation. honor pvp was a very great idea though. and +1 if theres more steps to pvp the game would be very lively again.

PVP IS THE HEART OF EVERY GAME.

[Spooked]

I dont understand how people think the pvp aspect of the game is what kept and still keeps the game running.
This is grade A nonsense.
Just because you never do anything but PvP doesnt mean its the core element of the game, not by far actually.
People still complaining and sobbing about how expensive new lv cap pvp is but when you tell them theres honor pvp u get **** on spit on and told to quit on.
Whats there to hate? That Honor is becoming more and more popular and you cant Pay to Win your way to the top anymore?

Yeah right.

[dynastygaming]

I dont understand how people think the pvp aspect of the game is what kept and still keeps the game running.
This is grade A nonsense.
Just because you never do anything but PvP doesnt mean its the core element of the game, not by far actually.
People still complaining and sobbing about how expensive new lv cap pvp is but when you tell them theres honor pvp u get **** on spit on and told to quit on.
Whats there to hate? That Honor is becoming more and more popular and you cant Pay to Win your way to the top anymore?

Yeah right.

lol if your in the foot of a guy who have billions of gold who dont know what to do anymore. and to take you back 3-5 years ago idk if your around when it is so active

[dynastygaming]

I dont understand how people think the pvp aspect of the game is what kept and still keeps the game running.
This is grade A nonsense.
Just because you never do anything but PvP doesnt mean its the core element of the game, not by far actually.
People still complaining and sobbing about how expensive new lv cap pvp is but when you tell them theres honor pvp u get **** on spit on and told to quit on.
Whats there to hate? That Honor is becoming more and more popular and you cant Pay to Win your way to the top anymore?

Yeah right.

Farming and pvp should be balanced, honor is yeah okay its fine but gears should make sense for you to compete. Name me a game which is pure farming and its not dead?

[Spooked]

Farming and pvp should be balanced, honor is yeah okay its fine but gears should make sense for you to compete. Name me a game which is pure farming and its not dead?

For mobile games?
Last day on Earth, Growtopia, Pixel Worlds, Genshin impact to a major extent.
The list goes on, what was your point?
The point im making is, PVP isnt by far the core element of the game anymore nor has ever really been, yet people like to proclaim it was to suit their own agenda.
If you are sobbing because its so expensive, play Honor.
If it is the pvp experience youre so desperately after this wouldnt be an issue would it?
Trust me i was around 5 years ago, and in pvp popularity i dont see that bad of a decrease, only difference is; people play alot of honor these times around.

[Scll]

This is an old thread.... and honor is super active

[dynastygaming]

For mobile games?
Last day on Earth, Growtopia, Pixel Worlds, Genshin impact to a major extent.
The list goes on, what was your point?
The point im making is, PVP isnt by far the core element of the game anymore nor has ever really been, yet people like to proclaim it was to suit their own agenda.
If you are sobbing because its so expensive, play Honor.
If it is the pvp experience youre so desperately after this wouldnt be an issue would it?
Trust me i was around 5 years ago, and in pvp popularity i dont see that bad of a decrease, only difference is; people play alot of honor these times around.


lol im done in farming bro i have billions, its boring what to do with my gold? for sure many are in same woe with me. You dont get tired farming dm/evg whole day? Pvp is the icebreaker for everything and its fun before anyone will concur me for that. I guess your the one who keeps farming dm whole day and think its fun. And to note that you dont even pvp should limit you from commenting on this thread.

[dynastygaming]

For mobile games?
Last day on Earth, Growtopia, Pixel Worlds, Genshin impact to a major extent.
The list goes on, what was your point?
The point im making is, PVP isnt by far the core element of the game anymore nor has ever really been, yet people like to proclaim it was to suit their own agenda.
If you are sobbing because its so expensive, play Honor.
If it is the pvp experience youre so desperately after this wouldnt be an issue would it?
Trust me i was around 5 years ago, and in pvp popularity i dont see that bad of a decrease, only difference is; people play alot of honor these times around.

and to all you mention not even a single mmorpg smh. Go farm dm dude your whole month farming is my 1 day merching. Sad but true

[Spooked]

lol im done in farming bro i have billions, its boring what to do with my gold? for sure many are in same woe with me. You dont get tired farming dm/evg whole day? Pvp is the icebreaker for everything and its fun before anyone will concur me for that. I guess your the one who keeps farming dm whole day and think its fun. And to note that you dont even pvp should limit you from commenting on this thread.

Good for you,, this means that my post wasnt aimed towards you, yet you feel like you should be the face of the community and respond?
I dont farm at all actually, its more lucrative to spend actual money than waste my time farming in the first place.
Again i dont think you read anything thats being said and just spew out nonsense off of your imaginary horse.
The fact you think someone who doesnt pvp and trust me i have, should be limited from commenting, tells me enough

[Spooked]

and to all you mention not even a single mmorpg smh. Go farm dm dude your whole month farming is my 1 day merching. Sad but true

“Name a game” you said, those are games arent they?
You see your point getting dismissed so you try nitpicking, thats all that was to be expected.
Your 1 day merching is half a hour of sitting behind a desk, sad but true.
Go do something productive with the life bestowed upon you.
Youre looking a bit stupid rn, flexing all that gold u got me impressed, shiver me timbers

[dynastygaming]

Good for you,, this means that my post wasnt aimed towards you, yet you feel like you should be the face of the community and respond?
I dont farm at all actually, its more lucrative to spend actual money than waste my time farming in the first place.
Again i dont think you read anything thats being said and just spew out nonsense off of your imaginary horse.
The fact you think someone who doesnt pvp and trust me i have, should be limited from commenting, tells me enough

Lol the post is about restoring pvp. See you dont even farm but bolstering farming lol and insecurity in pvp. Surely you never pvp dont be pretentious maybe you do? someone's dummy perhaps. To think that pvp is not the core of every game is funny lol, every top game has competitiveness. Its innate for a player to be competitive and that foster the thrilling part of the game, not by monotonous farming. Farming is fine and fun too but should be balanced.

[dynastygaming]

“Name a game” you said, those are games arent they?
You see your point getting dismissed so you try nitpicking, thats all that was to be expected.
Your 1 day merching is half a hour of sitting behind a desk, sad but true.
Go do something productive with the life bestowed upon you.
Youre looking a bit stupid rn, flexing all that gold u got me impressed, shiver me timbers

lol do you even have a slightest sense? why would you name a snake and ladder game when were tackling about mmorpg. now your flexing about real life money lol gimme your line and I can send you my bank accounts. You can spew all bold bragging lol but for sure a guy who flex doesnt really have something to show.

[gobbels]

Yeh i have all arc gear, but still rogs 1hit jugged warrior, so cant even fight back.

[Spooked]

Lol the post is about restoring pvp. See you dont even farm but bolstering farming lol and insecurity in pvp. Surely you never pvp dont be pretentious maybe you do? someone's dummy perhaps. To think that pvp is not the core of every game is funny lol, every top game has competitiveness. Its innate for a player to be competitive and that foster the thrilling part of the game, not by monotonous farming. Farming is fine and fun too but should be balanced.

I dont farm, tell that to my leaderboards
You think only gates and Dm count or have ever counted as farming? Thought u were an OG player?
Cant believe i have to recite the points i made before, ill sum it up so your tiny brain can also understand

1. PVP has NEVER been the core element of this game, PvE has always had the upper hand, and it still does.
(Does this mean im saying the game is only PvE? No, Read

2. If you complain about how expensive it is to pvp endgame, stop crying and play honor


Now you can do 2 things, get offended and think everything always is aimed and revolves around you, or you can stop and think, does this involve me? Does he mean me when he says this?

Now judging from your replies youre a very wealthy man with alot of pixel gold, so should the second point concern you?
Perhaps, if you have some reasonable statements.
Do you? No, seemingly not.

Does the 1st point apply to you? Yes, it applies to everyone, now how you go about this is you react with some argumentative points, did you? Not even in the slightest.

Now i have broken it down for you, do you understand? Or should i hold your hand through the entire thing again?

“Every top game has competitiveness” yes indeed, but this can both be PVe and PVP
Does this mean the entire game revolves around PvP like some people claim? No.
Not sure why you keep referring to other games either, this is the AL forum so treat it as such.

You keep bringing up how farming isnt fun and shouldnt only be done, but what point are you trying to make here? When did i ever claim that was the case? I bullet pointed the points i made, i hope u get your head out your arse and read for once, such a pretentious lad you are.

Just because someone says a game is oriented around PvE and PvE has the majority of the popularity, doesnt mean PvP is absent, get your head out your arse

[Spooked]

lol do you even have a slightest sense? why would you name a snake and ladder game when were tackling about mmorpg. now your flexing about real life money lol gimme your line and I can send you my bank accounts. You can spew all bold bragging lol but for sure a guy who flex doesnt really have something to show.

Okay so you say “name a game” i name games and then you hide behind this because you know im right? Because they arent the exact same game genre? Thats cute.
The pinnacle of human intelligence.

[dynastygaming]

I dont farm, tell that to my leaderboards
You think only gates and Dm count or have ever counted as farming? Thought u were an OG player?
Cant believe i have to recite the points i made before, ill sum it up so your tiny brain can also understand

1. PVP has NEVER been the core element of this game, PvE has always had the upper hand, and it still does.
(Does this mean im saying the game is only PvE? No, Read

2. If you complain about how expensive it is to pvp endgame, stop crying and play honor


Now you can do 2 things, get offended and think everything always is aimed and revolves around you, or you can stop and think, does this involve me? Does he mean me when he says this?

Now judging from your replies youre a very wealthy man with alot of pixel gold, so should the second point concern you?
Perhaps, if you have some reasonable statements.
Do you? No, seemingly not.

Does the 1st point apply to you? Yes, it applies to everyone, now how you go about this is you react with some argumentative points, did you? Not even in the slightest.

Now i have broken it down for you, do you understand? Or should i hold your hand through the entire thing again?

“Every top game has competitiveness” yes indeed, but this can both be PVe and PVP
Does this mean the entire game revolves around PvP like some people claim? No.
Not sure why you keep referring to other games either, this is the AL forum so treat it as such.

You keep bringing up how farming isnt fun and shouldnt only be done, but what point are you trying to make here? When did i ever claim that was the case? I bullet pointed the points i made, i hope u get your head out your arse and read for once, such a pretentious lad you are.

Just because someone says a game is oriented around PvE and PvE has the majority of the popularity, doesnt mean PvP is absent, get your head out your arse

1. Conversely when Pvp is core, it does not denegrate Pve and if your "reading" you should had "read" that I said it should be balanced.

2. Im saying the disparity of the rich and the average. As I mentioned many times, a player must have at least 500m today to compete anything less will be squashed. Honor is fine yes I agree with that (for the 10th time) but the point is whats the end goal of the player? to farm and what? just to get as much gold as possible? where to spend? vanities? lmao thats all? Is it better when they can access and better chances in pvp? like before 100m is enough for you to compete and everyone is jumping on it.

You know what? your always contrary to what you say. You said first that you detest P2W players then claiming you spend a lot. You said pvp isnt necessary then mentioned non-mmorpg game. Keep sitting on the desk I'll have you fired for not working.

[Spooked]

1. Conversely when Pvp is core, it does not denegrate Pve and if your "reading" you should had "read" that I said it should be balanced.

2. Im saying the disparity of the rich and the average. As I mentioned many times, a player must have at least 500m today to compete anything less will be squashed. Honor is fine yes I agree with that (for the 10th time) but the point is whats the end goal of the player? to farm and what? just to get as much gold as possible? where to spend? vanities? lmao thats all? Is it better when they can access and better chances in pvp? like before 100m is enough for you to compete and everyone is jumping on it.

You know what? your always contrary to what you say. You said first that you detest P2W players then claiming you spend a lot. You said pvp isnt necessary then mentioned non-mmorpg game. Keep sitting on the desk I'll have you fired for not working.


Who is saying it does? Are you schizophrenic?
You’re just looking dumber progressively as your replies stack up.
Youre acting like im saying it shouldnt.
I never stated one depraves the other, yet youre going on this holy crusade acting like anyone has ever said that in this thread.
Its mind boggling how explicitely i said it and you still type this reply.

2. What do i care? Im not your accountant am i?
All im saying is, when you complain about how expensive endgame pvp is go play honor pvp, this is a fitting solution to the sobbing people, dude i. Dont. Care what you do with your gold or how much you have, im saying IF YOU THINK ENDGAME PVP IS TOO EXPENSIVE QUIT WHINING AND PLAY HONOR Nothing more nothing less.
Regardless of how expensive it is. I dont care my G.
This is the solution everyone asked for, yet theres still people complaining about the expensiveness of the endgame pvp.
Is it? Yes. Is there a cheaper alternative? Yes
That was my point, nothing more nothing less, get your head out your arse.
Unless you have anything to add to that statement (the one in thickened letters incase you somehow miss the point again)
There is absolutely no reason to react to this.

And to add to that, there are plenty of other “goals” people could have, youre making it sound like its either pvp or its nothing.
How self centered can you possibly be?
“Where to spend? Vanities? Thats all?)
Theres plenty of people who indeed do have vanities as their endgoal? Who are you to make fun of that? Pathetic joke of a human being you are to be quite honest

When did i say i detest p2w players? Quote me on that.
Yes i said pvp isnt the core of this game and then i responded to your “name a game” question? So?
Sure u will, i think youre a bit too busy writing these nonsensical replies on a game forum talking about how many pixelated billions of gold you own, even though noone here asked nor cares about that, do you always slip your possessions into conversations?

[dynastygaming]

Who is saying it does? Are you schizophrenic?
You’re just looking dumber progressively as your replies stack up.
Youre acting like im saying it shouldnt.
I never stated one depraves the other, yet youre going on this holy crusade acting like anyone has ever said that in this thread.
Its mind boggling how explicitely i said it and you still type this reply.

2. What do i care? Im not your accountant am i?
All im saying is, when you complain about how expensive endgame pvp is go play honor pvp, this is a fitting solution to the sobbing people, dude i. Dont. Care what you do with your gold or how much you have, im saying IF YOU THINK ENDGAME PVP IS TOO EXPENSIVE QUIT WHINING AND PLAY HONOR Nothing more nothing less.
Regardless of how expensive it is. I dont care my G.
This is the solution everyone asked for, yet theres still people complaining about the expensiveness of the endgame pvp.
Is it? Yes. Is there a cheaper alternative? Yes
That was my point, nothing more nothing less, get your head out your arse.
Unless you have anything to add to that statement (the one in thickened letters incase you somehow miss the point again)
There is absolutely no reason to react to this.

And to add to that, there are plenty of other “goals” people could have, youre making it sound like its either pvp or its nothing.
How self centered can you possibly be?
“Where to spend? Vanities? Thats all?)
Theres plenty of people who indeed do have vanities as their endgoal? Who are you to make fun of that? Pathetic joke of a human being you are to be quite honest

When did i say i detest p2w players? Quote me on that.
Yes i said pvp isnt the core of this game and then i responded to your “name a game” question? So?
Sure u will, i think youre a bit too busy writing these nonsensical replies on a game forum talking about how many pixelated billions of gold you own, even though noone here asked nor cares about that, do you always slip your possessions into conversations?

okay basically you said 95% cussing and 5% air. What goals? clearly after years of farming and getting a huge chunk of gold, theres no more after it. I said that honor is fine, the point in discourse here is what will the players do after farming? they have bounty of gold but nothing to allot it to. Lets not be hypocrite here ofc in general, players would want to play pvp but they just dont have that huge means to be part. And stop insisting the "name a game" its just common sense to reply on it, that it is mmorpg. If I pm you in game and ask "Where are you?" Would you give your current address? or your current map.

[dynastygaming]

[QUOTE=Spooked;3497495]

you cant Pay to Win your way to the top anymore?

Ill quote you on that. Then claim to spend cash instead of farming......

[Badcopz]

I dont farm, tell that to my leaderboards
You think only gates and Dm count or have ever counted as farming? Thought u were an OG player?
Cant believe i have to recite the points i made before, ill sum it up so your tiny brain can also understand

1. PVP has NEVER been the core element of this game, PvE has always had the upper hand, and it still does.
(Does this mean im saying the game is only PvE? No, Read

2. If you complain about how expensive it is to pvp endgame, stop crying and play honor


Now you can do 2 things, get offended and think everything always is aimed and revolves around you, or you can stop and think, does this involve me? Does he mean me when he says this?

Now judging from your replies youre a very wealthy man with alot of pixel gold, so should the second point concern you?
Perhaps, if you have some reasonable statements.
Do you? No, seemingly not.

Does the 1st point apply to you? Yes, it applies to everyone, now how you go about this is you react with some argumentative points, did you? Not even in the slightest.

Now i have broken it down for you, do you understand? Or should i hold your hand through the entire thing again?

“Every top game has competitiveness” yes indeed, but this can both be PVe and PVP
Does this mean the entire game revolves around PvP like some people claim? No.
Not sure why you keep referring to other games either, this is the AL forum so treat it as such.

You keep bringing up how farming isnt fun and shouldnt only be done, but what point are you trying to make here? When did i ever claim that was the case? I bullet pointed the points i made, i hope u get your head out your arse and read for once, such a pretentious lad you are.

Just because someone says a game is oriented around PvE and PvE has the majority of the popularity, doesnt mean PvP is absent, get your head out your arse

“PvE has always had the upper hand” lol u new? I wish u get to see AL when lvl cap was 31 to 46 xD

[umarrahim]

There's honor, just play that. It even rewards banners.

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[dynastygaming]

There's honor, just play that. It even rewards banners.

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Backread bro thanks

[Kolpertis_333]

I agree with this, before and in pretty much every mmorpg is the same, farm gold and when you have enough to buy good gear then you start to pvp. Also i 100% agree that sts should make some ads or pay some YouTubers for sponsors cuz i heard a rumor (idk if its true but i think it is) that there is only 1.2k active players in Al, and i think thats just sad cuz its a great game.

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