DISREGARD THE OTHER POST —- this is the real solution. ENDGAME LOOT TABLE.

[Mastervoodoo]

I honestly do not believe cinco believes us when we say just how bad the drop rate is. And I say this because I don’t believe the drop rate has been appropriately tested. The real solution is for YOU cinco, or any other dev, to test the drop rate your self since it’s your way or the highway at this point, and then tell the community what you really think about it being “fair” and challenging. I believe if you see for your self how the drop rate actually is, it might sway your mind a little bit. Gold chests do not drop, and elites are dropping 1 out of 100 kills if you’re lucky . I think everyone would have peace if you did your own assessment. Thank you for your consideration.

[Xyzther]

Yeah, the current drop rates are quite frustrating. Since capping, I’ve done over 100 runs, all with 100% reroll, and my best drop has been just 1 pink. If the map preceding ebonthrax takes 4 minutes to complete and ebonthrax himself takes 10 minutes to kill, that’s 1400 minutes, nearly 24 hours, of pure farming just to receive one pink item. I understand Cinco wants the Mythic sets to be very rare, but when it takes 24 hours to receive one PIECE (not even the whole set!) of the THIRD best tier gear (not even second best!) then I start losing motivation.

Oh yeah, and the pink I received, I couldn’t even use lol. It was str and I am dex.

An ideal solution would be to decrease Ebonthrax HP/Armor (the issue is mainly the fight is taking too long. While his damage is strong, it still keeps the fight a challenge this way and not just a boring grind) and to (obviously) improve his drops in one way or another.

[synfullmagic_23110]

Maybe u dont need reroll for mythic items ?


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[Cinco]

I do believe you. You don't seem to believe that I believe you. Given how it's set up - it should take months to get a full set of the best gear. I think I already said this somewhere else.

[Faq]

I do believe you. You don't seem to believe that I believe you. Given how it's set up - it should take months to get a full set of the best gear. I think I already said this somewhere else.

Even with the posts and comments over the weekend your position still stands? I understand if you need more time to observe the drop rates, but a good portion of the community is pretty unhappy with the current game state. I know for myself without any action from the development team, I.e. you, I wil most likely lose interest in the coming days and weeks.

Everyone is different, but I can’t justify spending time let alone money for something like this. Again, just my two cents.

[XghostzX]

Yeah, the current drop rates are quite frustrating. Since capping, I’ve done over 100 runs, all with 100% reroll, and my best drop has been just 1 pink. If the map preceding ebonthrax takes 4 minutes to complete and ebonthrax himself takes 10 minutes to kill, that’s 1400 minutes, nearly 24 hours, of pure farming just to receive one pink item. I understand Cinco wants the Mythic sets to be very rare, but when it takes 24 hours to receive one PIECE (not even the whole set!) of the THIRD best tier gear (not even second best!) then I start losing motivation.

Oh yeah, and the pink I received, I couldn’t even use lol. It was str and I am dex.

An ideal solution would be to decrease Ebonthrax HP/Armor (the issue is mainly the fight is taking too long. While his damage is strong, it still keeps the fight a challenge this way and not just a boring grind) and to (obviously) improve his drops in one way or another.

And this is said from one of the most passionate, dedicated PvErs I know :)

+1 !

[Aoeqt]

Tbh pinks really aren’t even that hard to drop. It’s random luck yes, I’ve had 20 dry runs in a row with nothing dropping, others we received 6 pinks in 8 runs.

The whole saying “Ebonthrax takes 10 minutes to kill” is a bit overshot, even after the buff I’ve had groups where we take him down right at the 1 minute mark, yes we had x2/x3 daily combo’s, no we were not all fully geared in elite’s etc.

If someone truly loves PvE, as you claim he does above, then he should understand the hard grind with which he will cross paths during this cap. If it’s only 1 pink in 100 runs as a group total I find that extremely hard to believe, if you personally only get 1 pink in 100 runs then you can only blame your own luck, nothing else.

[Dolloway]

I do believe you. You don't seem to believe that I believe you. Given how it's set up - it should take months to get a full set of the best gear. I think I already said this somewhere else.

Perhaps these drop rates would be fine in 2010 or 2011 but in 2019 when the playerbase is far less than what it once was, this is not okay. The way it is currently set up, it is the hardest of any cap in PL history thus far to drop the best gear. You could replace the setup with any other cap and have a better chance of dropping the best gear.

In a few days, maybe a few weeks, this new cap will become an afterthought - the cap that the community was so eagerly waiting on since early this year. Many of the playerbase will feel defeated and stop playing once more.

You have a chance to fix this right now, Cinco. Don't let the spark die out.

[Mastervoodoo]

I do believe you. You don't seem to believe that I believe you. Given how it's set up - it should take months to get a full set of the best gear. I think I already said this somewhere else.

As dolloway stated it’s dying already, and I’m hoping you’re giving me an honest response, why months? What makes in necessary to make it take months for more than just a couple players to finally have a full elite set? And for maybe a couple of mythicals to be floating about. We were teased with this cap for months on end with deadline changing constantly .. and what? 100 players or more fast capped form anticipation of how awesome the gear would be just to be let down knowing it’s going to take months of hard work? Not to mention I see the same players on a day by day basis. There’s maybe 75 dedicated players of pl that are on daily at random times.. other than that the game has become to difficult and is dying, what’s the point in letting this happen , I can’t even get into a full party because all my clan mates say it’s pointless to waste their time. And no one is pvping either . Was this a last hoorah to make sts a few grand then call it quits lol.

[Mastervoodoo]

Perhaps these drop rates would be fine in 2010 or 2011 but in 2019 when the playerbase is far less than what it once was, this is not okay. The way it is currently set up, it is the hardest of any cap in PL history thus far to drop the best gear. You could replace the setup with any other cap and have a better chance of dropping the best gear.

In a few days, maybe a few weeks, this new cap will become an afterthought - the cap that the community was so eagerly waiting on since early this year. Many of the playerbase will feel defeated and stop playing once more.

You have a chance to fix this right now, Cinco. Don't let the spark die out.


First time I’ve ever seen so many restoration players disagreeing with how cinco has things set up. Many in apex are quitting as well , some I hardly ever see anymore, a couple who fast cap are refusing to even log on telling me to consistently check forums for them to let them know if things change lol.. I’m on my last string . Im spending a lot of my times on countless runs at this point. The orbs are nice and I’m almsot to 110, but out of maybe 47-60ish runs that I’ve done, I’ve received one legendary Dex armor lol, 3rd tier down. I’m fixing to give up as well and move onto console gaming .

[3pc]

Cinco u keep referring back to the 105 cap regarding sets but i dont really see the problem with it. Everyone had sets during 105 which gave people to the pleasure to PvE or PvP while they were reasonably priced 15-35m+(depending on enchats) our only problem was the procs in PvP when it was so obvious dex talon set was the most op. I dont think set farming and all that was ever the problem. But like we suggested keep vanitys on the loot table and others etc and people will be farming for ages (especially if there is 10 diff types of unique vanitys set at very low drop rates like mytbics atm).

[Fwend]

The hardest thing to determine about the entire PL community, and how they feel about this new cap is difficult. Considering many do no even voice their opinions on forums at all, even discord many are shy to speak out openly.

It is clear a apparent that many who have little time are finding the new mechanics of gaining xp and obtaining the best loot Mythic gear is very difficult especially when they do not have the time. Their motivation is being crushed by the difficulty in the huge amount of xp needed for each level as well as the little xp received the traditional way of leveling.

The xp orbs have returned but are only a chance drop from the bosses on each map.

With the nature of the game and the introduction of The Warlord's Prison map where xp orbs where looted easily from mobs and the boss dropped 20k xp orbs.

The addition of Oktal Odyssey Maps: Basin, Bayou and Bog, where the xp orbs where plentiful as well and from the boss.

Furthermore the Premium Platinum Map of MAXX CAVE TICKET for 20 plat.

All these wonderful new easy maps of gaining XP so quickly within a few hours, made it extremely easy to cap and level up.

I feel many within the community now want and expect the same time frame to level up now.

Cinco, I understand why the mechanics of XP and loot has been made more difficult for this campaign. It stems down to wanting our community to grind and work for what we desire with the purpose of keeping us occupied with the challenge.

Some of us are up to this challenge and have spent real life money on the game to gain the fast cap within the first week, others planned their time to grind hard and spend in game gold with the use of Xp Elixir Flasks to expedite their experience gain.

STS even introduced the most modest quest line in the new campaign to award any new character that unlocked the campaign and went through the quests over 6 million in gold and one free silver dragon chest and a gold dragon chest to open with no platinum.


My suggestion is a new premium platinum map for this campaign.

One which has more mini bosses as well as a boss that all have a chance to loot all drops on game including Mythic items and high xp orb amount 20k maximum, as well as mobs that drop xp orbs for those still requiring to cap to level 110.

This way the player base who are willing to spend real life money on the game can advance faster and are supporting the game.

[Duckypowerz]

This cap has SO MUCH POTENTIAL but it’s being crushed atm by the ridiculously low drop rate. This pvp has a chance to be so much better than what it has been. I played with an epic 110 talon set vs another 110 epic talon set and it was so much fun. But when you see people with not even full elites killing whole teams because they are so overpowered you realize just how strong and unfair mythic will be. I love exclusivity, it’s a wonderful thing but no set should cost 500m and take months to complete. When most of us are able to finally get mythic sets I truly believe that pvp will be so much fun again even with the enchants that I hate so much. Pve is fine and even ebon how he is now is fun to me. But it being fun and challenging is not going to get me to farm when the drop rate is so low that I won’t be able to get anything worth while. Currently it’s not worth wasting my time or plat/money to farm ebon. The community is only getting smaller and smaller day by day and we have all suggested ways to make it better before it’s to soon.

[water isnt wet]

Mastervoodoo, I find it funny that you continue to criticize the new cap, but you also support it by spending money and time grinding on it as well. That’s a bit hypocritical in my opinion. Obviously the devs have tested the drop rate for their own game. I’d like to think that Cinco has noticed that every time new content has been released for the game, the community is active for about a week, and then the in game population plummets to hell after everyone has gotten their new gear. Making the bosses and and loot much more of a grind would ideally create more community involvement over a longer period of time. You’ve been here since 2012, sport, it’s a bit funny that you don’t see that. That being said, even though community involvement staying consistent should be IDEAL with this model, another drought has once again started. STS should find a medium between the two extremes: the easy, pay to win content that we had before, and the seemingly impossible dull grind that we have now. This cap isn’t fun, it’s work. STS, You are not a AAA studio that can create an MMORPG expansion so compelling that people will want to farm for sets for MONTHS. I compliment you on your hard work in creating this new cap, but there is nothing that separates it from the rest of the game, and nothing that makes it any more interesting. Give us a reason to care, don’t just throw new vanity and gear at us and expect us to sacrifice tremendous amounts of money and time.

[plpr]

I got a crazy idea. What if when you hit 110 you can do a quest for a complete mythic set. Obviously it wouldn't be easy but maybe have it require finding hidden Enemies In previous campaigns that drop scraps to craft with or something cool like that. Like a really hard easter egg hunt.
Just a thought [emoji3166]

[Mastervoodoo]

Couldn’t have said it better my self duckie. Probably won’t see me on forums after this post, I’ve fought harder than anyone else who actually gets on forums it seems. Whether or not he believes it or not, but I’m voicing for over 30+ players that I personally know, and these are plat buying, farming/pvping maniacs that are now trying to get me to come play other games with them because of the “yes sets will take y’all months to obtain” feed back from the dev cinco. Waste enough time/ made enough sacrifices rushing to 110 just to be disappointed and let Down. But I gave it my best and if y’all wanna keep commenting / posting on what seems to be a lost cause, more power to ya, I have no argue left in me.

[burntoutdex]

The hardest thing to determine about the entire PL community, and how they feel about this new cap is difficult. Considering many do no even voice their opinions on forums at all, even discord many are shy to speak out openly.

It is clear a apparent that many who have little time are finding the new mechanics of gaining xp and obtaining the best loot Mythic gear is very difficult especially when they do not have the time. Their motivation is being crushed by the difficulty in the huge amount of xp needed for each level as well as the little xp received the traditional way of leveling.

The xp orbs have returned but are only a chance drop from the bosses on each map.

With the nature of the game and the introduction of The Warlord's Prison map where xp orbs where looted easily from mobs and the boss dropped 20k xp orbs.

The addition of Oktal Odyssey Maps: Basin, Bayou and Bog, where the xp orbs where plentiful as well and from the boss.

Furthermore the Premium Platinum Map of MAXX CAVE TICKET for 20 plat.

All these wonderful new easy maps of gaining XP so quickly within a few hours, made it extremely easy to cap and level up.

I feel many within the community now want and expect the same time frame to level up now.

Cinco, I understand why the mechanics of XP and loot has been made more difficult for this campaign. It stems down to wanting our community to grind and work for what we desire with the purpose of keeping us occupied with the challenge.

Some of us are up to this challenge and have spent real life money on the game to gain the fast cap within the first week, others planned their time to grind hard and spend in game gold with the use of Xp Elixir Flasks to expedite their experience gain.

STS even introduced the most modest quest line in the new campaign to award any new character that unlocked the campaign and went through the quests over 6 million in gold and one free silver dragon chest and a gold dragon chest to open with no platinum.


My suggestion is a new premium platinum map for this campaign.

One which has more mini bosses as well as a boss that all have a chance to loot all drops on game including Mythic items and high xp orb amount 20k maximum, as well as mobs that drop xp orbs for those still requiring to cap to level 110.

This way the player base who are willing to spend real life money on the game can advance faster and are supporting the game.

but I thought you said the power of friendship would help us drop mythics?

[Mastervoodoo]

Mastervoodoo, I find it funny that you continue to criticize the new cap, but you also support it by spending money and time grinding on it as well. That’s a bit hypocritical in my opinion. Obviously the devs have tested the drop rate for their own game. I’d like to think that Cinco has noticed that every time new content has been released for the game, the community is active for about a week, and then the in game population plummets to hell after everyone has gotten their new gear. Making the bosses and and loot much more of a grind would ideally create more community involvement over a longer period of time. You’ve been here since 2012, sport, it’s a bit funny that you don’t see that. That being said, even though community involvement staying consistent should be IDEAL with this model, another drought has once again started. STS should find a medium between the two extremes: the easy, pay to win content that we had before, and the seemingly impossible dull grind that we have now. This cap isn’t fun, it’s work. STS, You are not a AAA studio that can create an MMORPG expansion so compelling that people will want to farm for sets for MONTHS. I compliment you on your hard work in creating this new cap, but there is nothing that separates it from the rest of the game, and nothing that makes it any more interesting. Give us a reason to care, don’t just throw new vanity and gear at us and expect us to sacrifice tremendous amounts of money and time.

So you’re staying that last caps economy was trash? Sets were farmable at a decent rate and still exceeded costs of 50mil gold per set, where do you assume players will require such amounts of gold now? Nothing to farm ? Oh that also means nothing to sell too “sport”. And of course I support the game I love, and if you scroll up, it’s expected by the devs to take months to obtain a mythical set by chance. And you’re ok with that? That’s months assuming you’re grinding your *** off on a daily basis, not playing on and off maybe not even daily like most players do with a phone game “sport”. But good points you made at the end of your post. And you calling me out on me being a member since 2012 proves my point further, I’ve seen every caps economy pertaining to sets , last cap had no issues with economy. The player WOWIKR, spent 400mil+ on just two pieces of mythical gear. Should sets be worth this much? Oh wait the full set will be 1billion gold or more. Yikes . But that’s ok, good for the games economy lol

[Waydog]

The hardest thing to determine about the entire PL community, and how they feel about this new cap is difficult. Considering many do no even voice their opinions on forums at all, even discord many are shy to speak out openly.


Gee thats weird, I wonder why nobody ever wants to be openly share their thoughts in your discord

?????


I got a crazy idea. What if when you hit 110 you can do a quest for a complete mythic set. Obviously it wouldn't be easy but maybe have it require finding hidden Enemies In previous campaigns that drop scraps to craft with or something cool like that. Like a really hard easter egg hunt.
Just a thought [emoji3166]

And an excellent one at that. I love the feeling of completing actual REWARDING quests. I’d definitely to have some fun with that. Maybe we could set it up where we have to complete multiple quests and each quest offers a piece of the set you desire. Like the redbone one in Fathom Crypt lol :)

[Fwend]

I only help moderate the PL Central discord server.

Those who are toxic, cause drama, wish to troll, fight, argue with others and use an aggressive approach when voicing opinions are shut down.

The sever is family friendly for everyone.

Those like yourself have been given chances time and time again, yet you choose to be toxic and troll and cause mischief.

[water isnt wet]

So you’re staying that last caps economy was trash? Sets were farmable at a decent rate and still exceeded costs of 50mil gold per set, where do you assume players will require such amounts of gold now? Nothing to farm ? Oh that also means nothing to sell too “sport”. And of course I support the game I love, and if you scroll up, it’s expected by the devs to take months to obtain a mythical set by chance. And you’re ok with that? That’s months assuming you’re grinding your *** off on a daily basis, not playing on and off maybe not even daily like most players do with a phone game “sport”. But good points you made at the end of your post. And you calling me out on me being a member since 2012 proves my point further, I’ve seen every caps economy pertaining to sets , last cap had no issues with economy. The player WOWIKR, spent 400mil+ on just two pieces of mythical gear. Should sets be worth this much? Oh wait the full set will be 1billion gold or more. Yikes . But that’s ok, good for the games economy lol

Please refrain from excessive toxicity. I see now that you enjoyed the last cap so much because all you had to do was spend a few dollars to have your hand held all the way to the max level. It seems that you and many other players have been spoiled by being able to farm your entire sets in less than a week.

[water isnt wet]

I only help moderate the PL Central discord server.

Those who are toxic, cause drama, wish to troll, fight, argue with others and use an aggressive approach when voicing opinions are shut down.

The sever is family friendly for everyone.

Those like yourself have been given chances time and time again, yet you choose to be toxic and troll and cause mischief.

Preach it, sister. Sometimes you're the only shining beacon of light in this dreary community.

[Waydog]

I only help moderate the PL Central discord server.

Those who are toxic, cause drama, wish to troll, fight, argue with others and use an aggressive approach when voicing opinions are shut down.

The sever is family friendly for everyone.

Those like yourself have been given chances time and time again, yet you choose to be toxic and troll and cause mischief.

If nobody feels comfortable voicing their opinions its because they see what other people post and think its not that big of a deal but then watch them get banned. I think you do a fabulous job moderating your server and I absolutely do not think I deserve to be in it. <3

[Kazori]

I got a crazy idea. What if when you hit 110 you can do a quest for a complete mythic set. Obviously it wouldn't be easy but maybe have it require finding hidden Enemies In previous campaigns that drop scraps to craft with or something cool like that. Like a really hard easter egg hunt.
Just a thought [emoji3166]

Yes! A quest to get mythic gear just like level 50 Cyber quest would be perfect!!!

[water isnt wet]

I only help moderate the PL Central discord server.

Those who are toxic, cause drama, wish to troll, fight, argue with others and use an aggressive approach when voicing opinions are shut down.

The sever is family friendly for everyone.

Those like yourself have been given chances time and time again, yet you choose to be toxic and troll and cause mischief.

Preach it sister! God, sometimes it feels like you're the only one with common sense in this community!

[water isnt wet]

Too much disgusting toxicity seeping out of this area. Thread closed. Please refrain from spam-creating new threads in the future, Mastervoodoo. Cinco is available to private message for all future inquiries.

[synfullmagic_23110]

Too much disgusting toxicity seeping out of this area. Thread closed. Please refrain from spam-creating new threads in the future, Mastervoodoo. Cinco is available to private message for all future inquiries.

Yay :)


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[Waydog]

Yes! A quest to get mythic gear just like level 50 Cyber quest would be perfect!!!

I honestly don’t know why the fathom crypt ones were the only quests that came to mind lol. Maybe a quest line similar to both the mystery and cyber quests, slightly less hard than the cyber quests but you still get to craft the items like you did with the mystery quests would be so fun.

[Chaasivab]

I do believe you. You don't seem to believe that I believe you. Given how it's set up - it should take months to get a full set of the best gear. I think I already said this somewhere else.

Will you please tell it one more time for the people in the back I think they don’t understand what you are saying!!!

At this rate I hope all you people threatening to quit actually do so I don’t have to listen to your garbage anymore. Pvp is a privilege that you get from grinding hard to get gear. If you don’t want to do that play honor or be quiet.

Cinco isn’t going to ruin PvE because PvP people are to lazy to play the game hard and earn the ability to get elite and mythic pvp gear.

Y’all keep saying up the drop rate to fuel your own agenda for pvp well I hope cinco doesn’t do that because that is completely dumb.

I’ll say it again for the people in the back IF YOU DON’T LIKE THE CAP AND CONTENT QUIT THE GAME AND GET OFF THE FORUMS WE ARE BETTER OFF WITHOUT YOU.

Please hate on me some more I love to use your tears in my cereal for breakfast!

[burntoutdex]

Will you please tell it one more time for the people in the back I think they don’t understand what you are saying!!!

At this rate I hope all you people threatening to quit actually do so I don’t have to listen to your garbage anymore. Pvp is a privilege that you get from grinding hard to get gear. If you don’t want to do that play honor or be quiet.

Cinco isn’t going to ruin PvE because PvP people are to lazy to play the game hard and earn the ability to get elite and mythic pvp gear.

Y’all keep saying up the drop rate to fuel your own agenda for pvp well I hope cinco doesn’t do that because that is completely dumb.

I’ll say it again for the people in the back IF YOU DON’T LIKE THE CAP AND CONTENT QUIT THE GAME AND GET OFF THE FORUMS WE ARE BETTER OFF WITHOUT YOU.

Please hate on me some more I love to use your tears in my cereal for breakfast!

still typing in capslock I see.

[Waydog]

Will you please tell it one more time for the people in the back I think they don’t understand what you are saying!!!

At this rate I hope all you people threatening to quit actually do so I don’t have to listen to your garbage anymore. Pvp is a privilege that you get from grinding hard to get gear. If you don’t want to do that play honor or be quiet.

Cinco isn’t going to ruin PvE because PvP people are to lazy to play the game hard and earn the ability to get elite and mythic pvp gear.

Y’all keep saying up the drop rate to fuel your own agenda for pvp well I hope cinco doesn’t do that because that is completely dumb.

I’ll say it again for the people in the back IF YOU DON’T LIKE THE CAP AND CONTENT QUIT THE GAME AND GET OFF THE FORUMS WE ARE BETTER OFF WITHOUT YOU.

Please hate on me some more I love to use your tears in my cereal for breakfast!

You obviously don’t know what its like to have everything handed to you your whole life, and because of that, your opinion is invalid and you just wasted all of that time making that post. You just wouldn’t understand, I’m sorry.

[Faq]

Will you please tell it one more time for the people in the back I think they don’t understand what you are saying!!!

At this rate I hope all you people threatening to quit actually do so I don’t have to listen to your garbage anymore. Pvp is a privilege that you get from grinding hard to get gear. If you don’t want to do that play honor or be quiet.

Cinco isn’t going to ruin PvE because PvP people are to lazy to play the game hard and earn the ability to get elite and mythic pvp gear.

Y’all keep saying up the drop rate to fuel your own agenda for pvp well I hope cinco doesn’t do that because that is completely dumb.

I’ll say it again for the people in the back IF YOU DON’T LIKE THE CAP AND CONTENT QUIT THE GAME AND GET OFF THE FORUMS WE ARE BETTER OFF WITHOUT YOU.

Please hate on me some more I love to use your tears in my cereal for breakfast!

In before this thread gets locked.

But actually though, I think your being slightly naive thinking that this game would be able to sustain itself without the pvp community, or pve community for that matter. Low level pvp is essentially dead, bringing all the action to endgame and you have a lot of players, like Ghost mentioned earlier, that just like to hop on for an hour or two here or there to pvp with their friends.

This cap is driving away the casual player base that is the foundation of this game. You could probably count on your hands the number of people that are content with this cap and are going to farm consistently for the next 5 months to get a set. All this disdain between pvp and pve community is ridiculous, to have a healthy game you need both aspects. There just isn't the player base to sustain a purely pve based game.

There really isn't a great way for me to prove this until it's too late. If the drop rates don't change in the next couple of weeks you will start see towns empty out and runs dry up. As much as you like to think you live in a little snow globe insulated from the problems of others, you really do rely on the community as a whole. I have said all I can to cinco but I would urge pve players like yourself to recognize the situation for what it is.

[Kazori]

Will you please tell it one more time for the people in the back I think they don’t understand what you are saying!!!

At this rate I hope all you people threatening to quit actually do so I don’t have to listen to your garbage anymore. Pvp is a privilege that you get from grinding hard to get gear. If you don’t want to do that play honor or be quiet.

Cinco isn’t going to ruin PvE because PvP people are to lazy to play the game hard and earn the ability to get elite and mythic pvp gear.

Y’all keep saying up the drop rate to fuel your own agenda for pvp well I hope cinco doesn’t do that because that is completely dumb.

I’ll say it again for the people in the back IF YOU DON’T LIKE THE CAP AND CONTENT QUIT THE GAME AND GET OFF THE FORUMS WE ARE BETTER OFF WITHOUT YOU.

Please hate on me some more I love to use your tears in my cereal for breakfast!

And when game is a ghost town and when nobody wants to play and you are alone in a map with Ebonthrax and cant even kill him cuz you want to farm your heart out for trash drops then you will only have yourself to blame

[Duckypowerz]

Will you please tell it one more time for the people in the back I think they don’t understand what you are saying!!!

At this rate I hope all you people threatening to quit actually do so I don’t have to listen to your garbage anymore. Pvp is a privilege that you get from grinding hard to get gear. If you don’t want to do that play honor or be quiet.

Cinco isn’t going to ruin PvE because PvP people are to lazy to play the game hard and earn the ability to get elite and mythic pvp gear.

Y’all keep saying up the drop rate to fuel your own agenda for pvp well I hope cinco doesn’t do that because that is completely dumb.

I’ll say it again for the people in the back IF YOU DON’T LIKE THE CAP AND CONTENT QUIT THE GAME AND GET OFF THE FORUMS WE ARE BETTER OFF WITHOUT YOU.

Please hate on me some more I love to use your tears in my cereal for breakfast!

Pvp is not a “privilege” it’s a selling part for this game. It’s an aspect that many people play the game for. This game has been one of my favorite pvp experiences I’ve ever had. The pvp system has seen many ups and downs but without the pvp aspect this game would be just running through a map to kill a boss. This game doesn’t have a true campaign with a story it’s just killing a boss. That is ok though it’s still enjoyable and rewarding if done right like it used to be. Right now the pve aspect isn’t what it should be and it is effecting every aspect of the game, the economy, the unique player base that I’ve known for years, and of course pvp. It’s not a complicated fix and I’m not exactly sure why it’s taking so much time and complaints for it to be fixed. At this rate I’m not sure if it will be fixed and that’s the true shame cause this cap really has some good potential but it could all go to waste if nothing happens soon.

[XghostzX]

still typing in capslock I see.

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[Mastervoodoo]

Too much disgusting toxicity seeping out of this area. Thread closed. Please refrain from spam-creating new threads in the future, Mastervoodoo. Cinco is available to private message for all future inquiries.

Thread closed? It looks open to me still, seems as if more “toxicity” can continue to pour in. Btw you’ve spoken no literate points, just arguments that don’t serve a purpose. You want a free to play grind that’s gonna take you months upon months to achieve a set, while you mooch off of people like sunflwr who spend plat for you basically, I know how she is, she basically gives items away. How about stop using people and play the game your self just to have a look into the amount of time it takes to actually do a boss run, then do some math once you finally get a decent drop in what, let’s say, 40-75 kill count? Times 65 by about 13 or so minutes and let me know what you get. Then multiply that by 6, and there’s your completed set . That’s assuming you can even complete a run in 13 minutes without a team full of combo players. Go back to discord where you can pretend to be a moderator.

[largecommander]

I do believe you. You don't seem to believe that I believe you. Given how it's set up - it should take months to get a full set of the best gear. I think I already said this somewhere else.

please PLEASE cinco make the drops easier to get there are only ones from free chests in game right now

please listen to your playerbase and help us. we are the ones who play your game!

PLEASE.

[water isnt wet]

Thread closed? It looks open to me still, seems as if more “toxicity” can continue to pour in. Btw you’ve spoken no literate points, just arguments that don’t serve a purpose. You want a free to play grind that’s gonna take you months upon months to achieve a set, while you mooch off of people like sunflwr who spend plat for you basically, I know how she is, she basically gives items away. How about stop using people and play the game your self just to have a look into the amount of time it takes to actually do a boss run, then do some math once you finally get a decent drop in what, let’s say, 40-75 kill count? Times 65 by about 13 or so minutes and let me know what you get. Then multiply that by 6, and there’s your completed set . That’s assuming you can even complete a run in 13 minutes without a team full of combo players. Go back to discord where you can pretend to be a moderator.
Why would I waste my time farming now when I said before that I don't agree with this current campaign? You must have missed that part. I don't even know if I can take you seriously if you make numerous threads complaining about the new cap and then still continue to log on and spend time and money grinding it.

[SuperGotenks]

I got a crazy idea. What if when you hit 110 you can do a quest for a complete mythic set. Obviously it wouldn't be easy but maybe have it require finding hidden Enemies In previous campaigns that drop scraps to craft with or something cool like that. Like a really hard easter egg hunt.
Just a thought [emoji3166]

I think something like this is spot on. Like in 50 cap where we had to quest for cyber set


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[_Reunited_]

Honestly STS (mainly cinco) have done a phenomenal job on this cap, I love the feel of it, all the levels are visually pleasing and the boss is cool, I 100% agree with most of you in this thread, however I feel like we all as a community got too aggressive with suggestions and fix requests and its come back to bite us, Cinco has been very very very open to all of our ideas but now some of them have backfired we all complain, Im not disputing the fact that the boss drop rate is super low but I feel like we kind of bit the hand that feeds us and now we are crying as if we all aren't somewhat responsible, we asked for a grind, we asked for the boss buffs, basically we asked and cinco listened, I think this is a good lesson on just sometimes accepting certain aspects of a expansion without complaining as much because now anytime a GOOD suggestion is made its drowned in a over-saturated river of crap ones,

At the risk of sounding like a huge hypocrite I will also like to say that the quest idea is a great one but instead of having the whole set handed to us because we did a little grinding, perhaps a daily quest approach might be the better and if the quest is finished within the 24 hour period before reset, the rewards could be something like a pink treasure chest. (Quest example: Slay Ebonthrax 4/50)

That is just my 2 cents worth and im sorry if it offends anyone, my aim isn't to offend anyone of their ideas as most of what I read I agree with, I guess thats just some food for thought, to wrap this drawn out post of mine id just like to say thankyou so much Cinco for delivering such a amazing cap and I appreciate the effort you have put in to keep our favourite game fresh. <3

[Mastervoodoo]

Why would I waste my time farming now when I said before that I don't agree with this current campaign? You must have missed that part. I don't even know if I can take you seriously if you make numerous threads complaining about the new cap and then still continue to log on and spend time and money grinding it.

Shouldn’t complain if you haven’t spent time actually testing whether or not it’s worth your time. You’re just sitting back evaluating and stating you don’t agree with it etc.

[Cinco]

I appreciate all the comments.

So everyone is up to date on my plans: the free path to Level 110 and all associated Elite, Mythical items will remain very difficult. The XP curve will stay super-steep, item drops will continue to be extremely elusive, and the Ebonthrax encounter is also not going to get any easier. This means that reaching Level 110 - especially for f2p - will continue to be considered a true achievement, the result of significant long-term play.

That said: I believe that the Platinum path to Level 110 is lacking and needs to be reworked. While it is somewhat valuable to skip past Chapter 4 it's clearly not worth the cost. Thus I'm going to remove the item that gives direct access to Chapter 5 and provide a new item that gives access to a new 'HYPER-THRAX' dungeon that has much better drops, chance for bonus XP orbs, multiple mini-boss monsters, and removes trash and common items from Ebonthrax' loot tables.

This new item will be different from other access items that I've offered in the past. This item will be a trade-friendly 'kit' (like the various Elixir Kits currently in circulation) found in the Elixir section of the Store. Platinum users will be able to purchase the item and then share / trade with friends or list for sale on the CS. When this 'ticket kit' is opened it will give the opener one full hour of access to this new premium dungeon.

[XghostzX]

I appreciate all the comments.

So everyone is up to date on my plans: the free path to Level 110 and all associated Elite, Mythical items will remain very difficult. The XP curve will stay super-steep, item drops will continue to be extremely elusive, and the Ebonthrax encounter is also not going to get any easier. This means that reaching Level 110 - especially for f2p - will continue to be considered a true achievement, the result of significant long-term play.

That said: I believe that the Platinum path to Level 110 is lacking and needs to be reworked. While it is somewhat valuable to skip past Chapter 4 it's clearly not worth the cost. Thus I'm going to remove the item that gives direct access to Chapter 5 and provide a new item that gives access to a new 'HYPER-THRAX' dungeon that has much better drops, chance for bonus XP orbs, multiple mini-boss monsters, and removes trash and common items from Ebonthrax' loot tables.

This new item will be different from other access items that I've offered in the past. This item will be a trade-friendly 'kit' (like the various Elixir Kits currently in circulation) found in the Elixir section of the Store. Platinum users will be able to purchase the item and then share / trade with friends or list for sale on the CS. When this 'ticket kit' is opened it will give the opener one full hour of access to this new premium dungeon.

I think this is great and could prove to be beneficial for our economy. As long as drop rates in the plat path are reworked, we can expect to see rarer gear more frequently in the CS, and prices won't be excessive. The point here is that, as a pvper, I hope that accessibility to gear isn't nearly as tedious -- but I'd happily pay plat to just level up as long as I know that at some point, there is a reasonable payoff with the PvP we all love.

Not that you don't already know, but it's extremely vital that players feel rewarded for spending their money. With the current player base, it can't feel like a lottery.

Thanks for listening as best as possible to us!

EDIT: Would you ever consider implementing quests (like the cyber quests) that give PvErs something to work towards that reward elite/legendary gear (not mythics)?

[Dolloway]

I appreciate all the comments.

So everyone is up to date on my plans: the free path to Level 110 and all associated Elite, Mythical items will remain very difficult. The XP curve will stay super-steep, item drops will continue to be extremely elusive, and the Ebonthrax encounter is also not going to get any easier. This means that reaching Level 110 - especially for f2p - will continue to be considered a true achievement, the result of significant long-term play.

That said: I believe that the Platinum path to Level 110 is lacking and needs to be reworked. While it is somewhat valuable to skip past Chapter 4 it's clearly not worth the cost. Thus I'm going to remove the item that gives direct access to Chapter 5 and provide a new item that gives access to a new 'HYPER-THRAX' dungeon that has much better drops, chance for bonus XP orbs, multiple mini-boss monsters, and removes trash and common items from Ebonthrax' loot tables.

This new item will be different from other access items that I've offered in the past. This item will be a trade-friendly 'kit' (like the various Elixir Kits currently in circulation) found in the Elixir section of the Store. Platinum users will be able to purchase the item and then share / trade with friends or list for sale on the CS. When this 'ticket kit' is opened it will give the opener one full hour of access to this new premium dungeon.

Thanks for listening to the playerbase. Hopefully we see more Elite and Mythic items on the market - as of right now, there are virtually no Mythics available and less than one hand can count in the game. I'm not at all opposed to keeping Ebonthrax the same difficulty, as long as Mythics actually begin to drop.

I also think it's really neat that the new kits will be tradable so that free to play players can purchase them with gold and enjoy the plat dungeon as well.

[Mastervoodoo]

I appreciate all the comments.

So everyone is up to date on my plans: the free path to Level 110 and all associated Elite, Mythical items will remain very difficult. The XP curve will stay super-steep, item drops will continue to be extremely elusive, and the Ebonthrax encounter is also not going to get any easier. This means that reaching Level 110 - especially for f2p - will continue to be considered a true achievement, the result of significant long-term play.

That said: I believe that the Platinum path to Level 110 is lacking and needs to be reworked. While it is somewhat valuable to skip past Chapter 4 it's clearly not worth the cost. Thus I'm going to remove the item that gives direct access to Chapter 5 and provide a new item that gives access to a new 'HYPER-THRAX' dungeon that has much better drops, chance for bonus XP orbs, multiple mini-boss monsters, and removes trash and common items from Ebonthrax' loot tables.

This new item will be different from other access items that I've offered in the past. This item will be a trade-friendly 'kit' (like the various Elixir Kits currently in circulation) found in the Elixir section of the Store. Platinum users will be able to purchase the item and then share / trade with friends or list for sale on the CS. When this 'ticket kit' is opened it will give the opener one full hour of access to this new premium dungeon.

This is amazing , especially the fact that it’ll be trade able. Many f2p players are rich and can afford to spend gold. This is an amazing reply and definitely something to look forward to, I can definitely see people running dungeons now, this is going to be great !!

[Chaasivab]

This is amazing , especially the fact that it’ll be trade able. Many f2p players are rich and can afford to spend gold. This is an amazing reply and definitely something to look forward to, I can definitely see people running dungeons now, this is going to be great !!

I’m never buying anything from you or anyone that I put on my list from this mess Ggs.... I’d rather pay over priced than buy anything from you.

[Fwend]

I appreciate all the comments.

So everyone is up to date on my plans: the free path to Level 110 and all associated Elite, Mythical items will remain very difficult. The XP curve will stay super-steep, item drops will continue to be extremely elusive, and the Ebonthrax encounter is also not going to get any easier. This means that reaching Level 110 - especially for f2p - will continue to be considered a true achievement, the result of significant long-term play.

That said: I believe that the Platinum path to Level 110 is lacking and needs to be reworked. While it is somewhat valuable to skip past Chapter 4 it's clearly not worth the cost. Thus I'm going to remove the item that gives direct access to Chapter 5 and provide a new item that gives access to a new 'HYPER-THRAX' dungeon that has much better drops, chance for bonus XP orbs, multiple mini-boss monsters, and removes trash and common items from Ebonthrax' loot tables.

This new item will be different from other access items that I've offered in the past. This item will be a trade-friendly 'kit' (like the various Elixir Kits currently in circulation) found in the Elixir section of the Store. Platinum users will be able to purchase the item and then share / trade with friends or list for sale on the CS. When this 'ticket kit' is opened it will give the opener one full hour of access to this new premium dungeon.

Thank you Cinco for listening to our concerns and having a tough skin.

We do appreciate you and our beloved game. Some have the ability to express this more so than others.

A premium platinum dungeon of HYPER-THRAX that ticks all the boxes but even more because you are removing the trash and common items from the loot table as well as making them into a trade elixir.

[3pc]

I appreciate all the comments.

So everyone is up to date on my plans: the free path to Level 110 and all associated Elite, Mythical items will remain very difficult. The XP curve will stay super-steep, item drops will continue to be extremely elusive, and the Ebonthrax encounter is also not going to get any easier. This means that reaching Level 110 - especially for f2p - will continue to be considered a true achievement, the result of significant long-term play.

That said: I believe that the Platinum path to Level 110 is lacking and needs to be reworked. While it is somewhat valuable to skip past Chapter 4 it's clearly not worth the cost. Thus I'm going to remove the item that gives direct access to Chapter 5 and provide a new item that gives access to a new 'HYPER-THRAX' dungeon that has much better drops, chance for bonus XP orbs, multiple mini-boss monsters, and removes trash and common items from Ebonthrax' loot tables.

This new item will be different from other access items that I've offered in the past. This item will be a trade-friendly 'kit' (like the various Elixir Kits currently in circulation) found in the Elixir section of the Store. Platinum users will be able to purchase the item and then share / trade with friends or list for sale on the CS. When this 'ticket kit' is opened it will give the opener one full hour of access to this new premium dungeon.

This took us by surprise like you usually do and we applaud you cinco

[Mastervoodoo]

I’m never buying anything from you or anyone that I put on my list from this mess Ggs.... I’d rather pay over priced than buy anything from you.

If you read my comment from the other post I stated my “friends” don’t worry I won’t sell a thing to you, you still haven’t even reached level 110.