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SuperGotenks
08-06-2019, 04:56 AM
I think if there was a quest to complete our mythic sets, there would be an incentive for people to do PvE without being discouraged by drop rates. For example, to get the mythic helmet you’d have to kill Ebonthrax 75 times, etc. Make PvE fun again, I miss the times when questing was essential to become geared in the game. People need a motive to do long runs, and this will give newer players a chance to be on the same level playing field as the older/richer players. I think if successfully implemented, many players would come back with a smile on their face. I personally would want to farm even more despite low drop rates since the quest would keep me motivated to grind hard for the best gear.

XghostzX
08-06-2019, 06:48 AM
Cool suggestion :)

Granted, I don't see Cinco ever implementing something even remotely close to this. Maybe questing for elites, keeping mythics lootable? I could see this motivating endgame content -- then create mythic-free PvP zones!

Faq
08-06-2019, 07:18 AM
I like this idea, but it does seem far fetched. Perhaps another idea, albeit far fetched as well, would be to make mythics craftable from their elite counter part. It would take time to implement but with a couple of basic crafting component introduced into the game I think it would alleviate the drop rate problem as well as incentivize pve play.

Doesn't have to be on the same level as demo sets but maybe a elite armor, with 2 pink crafting items, a handful of purples and greens and a pink recipe would give you the mythic armor.

Yogaa
08-06-2019, 08:06 AM
No no no....

Will it makes money for sts? No

Then it's a no

I have a better idea!!

Just put these Mythical items on the store for 2000 PLATINUM EACH ITEM! Just like Pure Stat Weapon

#waydog2020
08-06-2019, 08:15 AM
At least give credit where credit is due!

https://i.imgur.com/PDapNnZ.png

Cinco
08-06-2019, 09:07 AM
Before doing this sort of thing I'm going to see how things go with respect to item availability (after I make changes to Platinum players' options for drop rates with this week's update).

jest
08-06-2019, 02:06 PM
Make mythic item craftable you need elite and pink pieces l110 to craft mythic items that will be great thing to do

Fwend
08-06-2019, 06:25 PM
I love the concept of a new quest line to make a set obtainable in this current campaign.

I do however, suggest that the rarity of the set be of Legendary (pink) or of Epic (Purple). Reason being, these sets are still desirable and will help you enjoy the campaign, whilst keeping the more desired sets Mythic and Elites harder to obtain and allow the community to continue to want to farm and spend platinum on the game.

If all we need to do this cap is to level up to 110, do a quest line and automatically be awarded the best set on game. How will this encourage the need to farm?

Once all pvpers get their Mythic sets through the quest line, will they farm anymore?
Farmers will complete the set and what want to farm Elite rarity items? farm to craft the sets into vanity items? or farm for the rare vanity Admiral Service Dress and Admiral Dinner Dress?

The amount of the best end game sets will saturate the market, and players will create new alts to complete the quest again. But I do not feel the best set on game should be easily obtainable from a quest line alone.

SuperGotenks
08-06-2019, 07:18 PM
I love the concept of a new quest line to make a set obtainable in this current campaign.

I do however, suggest that the rarity of the set be of Legendary (pink) or of Epic (Purple). Reason being, these sets are still desirable and will help you enjoy the campaign, whilst keeping the more desired sets Mythic and Elites harder to obtain and allow the community to continue to want to farm and spend platinum on the game.

If all we need to do this cap is to level up to 110, do a quest line and automatically be awarded the best set on game. How will this encourage the need to farm?

Once all pvpers get their Mythic sets through the quest line, will they farm anymore?
Farmers will complete the set and what want to farm Elite rarity items? farm to craft the sets into vanity items? or farm for the rare vanity Admiral Service Dress and Admiral Dinner Dress?

The amount of the best end game sets will saturate the market, and players will create new alts to complete the quest again. But I do not feel the best set on game should be easily obtainable from a quest line alone.

No one is saying the quest should be easy to obtain mythics. Cyber took me weeks on end of constant grinding and farming was a bonus of questing. I started playing PL at a young age so I didn’t have access to platinum at the time, but since the cyber set was pretty much toe-to-toe equal to the rare dropping AO3 sets at the time, I quested my heart out for that cyber. That being said, leaving the drop rate low for mythics on the f2p side whilst also allowing a super long quest line to obtain the mythics would encourage more f2p gameplay. Newer players can easily be discouraged by high prices of in game items, especially when the current player base consists of players who have been playing for over a year now. Cinco could easily make the quest take months on end to complete—which goes with what his original plan intended for 110.

Fwend
08-06-2019, 08:58 PM
I'm sorry but I still feel the cyber quest was still too easy for a farmer like myself.

I am all for this quest idea for either Legendary or lower rarity sets. But for the best set on game, I do not think this would be good for the nature of farming and the market on game.

plpr
08-06-2019, 10:23 PM
I'm sorry but I still feel the cyber quest was still too easy for a farmer like myself.

I am all for this quest idea for either Legendary or lower rarity sets. But for the best set on game, I do not think this would be good for the nature of farming and the market on game.

That isn't enticing at all. The Majority of the player base That is still level 105 that think this cap is a joke need some incentive. Not just to level up either. Honestly I think 90% of the people that play are in it for the pvp and that's it. And to waste that much time to level up to 110 to have absolutely nothing to show for it but a pink set isn't going to cut it.
People aren't stupid, They aren't going to waste time not having fun to then not be able to have fun in the end.


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Fwend
08-07-2019, 12:14 AM
No harm in a little hard grinding to cap, and to gain sets. The achievement to do that is a reward within itself.

Platinum, elixir flasks will expedite your xp.

Cinco has kindly listened to us and is working on adding a premium plat map for xp and better loot %, as well as taking off trash and common loot, including a time limit of an hour on the elixir and this will trade friendly.

If you are willing and motivated you will have the desire to play the game and try. But giving up before you even try, perhaps you do not have the heart to play the game anymore.

burntoutdex
08-07-2019, 08:33 AM
I'm sorry but I still feel the cyber quest was still too easy for a farmer like myself.

I am all for this quest idea for either Legendary or lower rarity sets. But for the best set on game, I do not think this would be good for the nature of farming and the market on game.

you didn't even play during the level 50 cap

of course the quest is easy now with stat pets, combo elixirs, the best gear and knowledge of how to complete the quest in the most efficient way possible :stupid:

Mastervoodoo
08-07-2019, 08:55 AM
you didn't even play during the level 50 cap

of course the quest is easy now with stat pets, combo elixirs, the best gear and knowledge of how to complete the quest in the most efficient way possible :stupid:

Lmaoooo right? Smh

Waug
08-07-2019, 09:14 AM
Rather I'd say, we need something daily basis to grind. This is very important so that ppl don't loose interest and at least play to do daily quest. That will retain their interest during the phase where for some it looks huge burden to breach.
-Anything like daily xp
(And/or) Daily few free quest to get one particular item (not whole set) either that ain't available other way or way harder other way
(And/or) Daily few free access to something that is premium

Fwend
08-07-2019, 09:27 AM
I did play pre bsm and completed the ichor quest twice within 40 days.

Where I farmed 6 black dragon drops and was awarded a The Fire Axe of the dragon and The Elite Fire xbow.

Even so that quest was 500 ichors and the drop from the boss was random. One out of 3 to 4 runs you would receive a drop.

Even so that quest only took me a few weeks to complete.

I know of others who completed that quest three times within that 40 day time frame.

I understand pvpers have his desire and need to have the best sets on game and to cap quickly as possible and do not wish to take months to do this.

But with that in mind, if this is so.

How would this effect the game? The economy of prices on the best set of the game.

Will pvpers even consider farming anymore after they ger mythic sets or choose to pvp all day? Then of course complain about how unbalanced sets and classes are.

STS has to find a balance where the game can please the community but will also provide a continuous flow of Platinum spending by us.

Would players keep buying Platinum once they get the mythic set?

fruitbattwo
08-07-2019, 09:31 AM
If mythic drops stay at the rarity they are now, I would like the idea of having them tied in with future events. We’ve had vanities and other items rewarded to those who rank the highest on the leaderboard after events in the past. Maybe include a mythic item(s) of choice to the top 100/50/25 who rank the highest in future events. I could also see XP being rewarded as well.

Fwend
08-07-2019, 09:45 AM
I did complete the ichor quest twice within the 40 day timeframe.

Farmed 6 black dragon pieces and was rewarded an Elite Fire Axe of the Dragon as well as the Elite Fire Xbow.

The quest required 500 ichors and only one out of 3 to 4 runs would an ichor be looted from the boss. I know of a few who completed this quest three times within 40 days.

But that doesn't really reflect on why I continued to play the game and purchase platinum to support the game.

I understand that, all some players wish to do this expansion, is to cap to level 110 and get their mythic sets immediately. And then choose to pvp all day.

But I feel a balance has to made to ensure the health and activity of the game to encourage platinum spending.

If all a player needs to do to obtain the best set on game via a quest that may take a few days for some and months for others. After the majority of the community do receive these desired sets. How do you think this will effect the activity of game as well to encourage platinum spending?

Would you want to buy Platinum to run the new premium Plat dungeon to get more xp or loot after you have received your full Mythic Set? And enchanting it for pvp?

I feel keeping Mythic gear rare is a double edge sword. It does make the hard core players work even harder to gain the gear. And in turn will discourage casual players and those who do not enjoy the grind to not want to play the game.

The hardest thing to monitor is the view of the entire PL small community that are still currently active and playing the game daily. Many do not even use STS forums and read alone or don't even know of it's existence. We do have players from all over the world and English is not their primary language.

These forums do not reflect our entire community many actively playing daily are not heard.

With the addition of this new platinum map, for the first time this platinum elixir will be trade friendly. It is win win for both Pay To Win and Free To Play players. And it supports the game via players wanting to buy Plat.

Again I am all for the idea of the quest line.

But for the rarity of legendary or epic sets.

I also like the idea of a quest line to gain great amounts of xp gain daily similar to the daily quest line in Arcane Legends.

Mastervoodoo
08-07-2019, 09:45 AM
If mythic drops stay at the rarity they are now, I would like the idea of having them tied in with future events. We’ve had vanities and other items rewarded to those who rank the highest on the leaderboard after events in the past. Maybe include a mythic item(s) of choice to the top 100/50/25 who rank the highest in future events. I could also see XP being rewarded as well.

I don’t wanna be captain obvious here, but cincos commented on several of these posts now in regards to the new dungeon he’s fixing to release as of today or tomorrow lol.

fruitbattwo
08-07-2019, 09:50 AM
I don’t wanna be captain obvious here, but cincos commented on several of these posts now in regards to the new dungeon he’s fixing to release as of today or tomorrow lol.
Yes that will cost platinum. I’m talking about temporary events, not mini dungeons. These would help free to play players

fruitbattwo
08-07-2019, 09:56 AM
I don’t wanna be captain obvious here, but cincos commented on several of these posts now in regards to the new dungeon he’s fixing to release as of today or tomorrow lol.

And where did you get the idea of it being released today or tomorrow?

Mastervoodoo
08-07-2019, 10:15 AM
He said this week, so I’m assuming either today or tomorrow, but it’s confirmed not today. But this dungeon will help free players, the elixir will be trade able

Chaasivab
08-07-2019, 02:51 PM
I think if there was a quest to complete our mythic sets, there would be an incentive for people to do PvE without being discouraged by drop rates. For example, to get the mythic helmet you’d have to kill Ebonthrax 75 times, etc. Make PvE fun again, I miss the times when questing was essential to become geared in the game. People need a motive to do long runs, and this will give newer players a chance to be on the same level playing field as the older/richer players. I think if successfully implemented, many players would come back with a smile on their face. I personally would want to farm even more despite low drop rates since the quest would keep me motivated to grind hard for the best gear.

Yeah I’m gonna have to say a NO to this one. A quest line to get mythic is a bit pointless because it needs to be really hard to get and have a very low drop rate. The only gear you should get from a quest line is legendary. Mythic and Elite need to stay at low drop rates and based on rng because that is why farmers farm.

ImRandy
08-07-2019, 03:15 PM
I vote no for a daily quest for mythic gear ... that wouldn’t be mythical ... it would be daily “boring” gear.
I would vote yes for a daily quest line that improved “luck” in L110 campaign. I would vote yes for improved “luck” from fast cap rewards especially the pet.
Why is there no tradeable “Luck”elixir flask (30 min).

Looking forward to this next update ... CHEERS

plpr
08-07-2019, 04:14 PM
If you are replying and saying you want it to take months or you think this is a bad idea you don't have to do the quest. Band together and have fun farming for half a year for a set. While the others that want to enjoy the game complete the quest.

Fwend
08-07-2019, 04:56 PM
Perhaps the real issue is the mentality that in order to pvp end game this campaign one must get a Mythic set.

With the nature of the rarity if Mythic items, I highly doubt anyone would have a Mythic set to pvp in for a while. But we will see how the drop rates are in the new HYPER-THRAX Plat dungeon when it is introduced.

In the mean time is there any harm in aiming for Elite sets to play with? To pvp with? Considering others will only have Elite sets too?

Right now I am farming for all legendary, elite and mythic sets and all classes. And still using my elite enchanted level 105 sets.

I have met many end game pvpers in two particular guilds who have, capped to level 110 and are grinding away with me with the aim to loot elite sets, the Mythic set we understand is a longer term goal to reach.

But not many of them are boisterous and vocal on forums, none have mentioned "I hate this cap and it is too hard and I'm quitting" . They all still try and are grinding away.

The attitude one has is so very important to enjoy anything we do.

Mastervoodoo
08-07-2019, 05:50 PM
Perhaps the real issue is the mentality that in order to pvp end game this campaign one must get a Mythic set.

With the nature of the rarity if Mythic items, I highly doubt anyone would have a Mythic set to pvp in for a while. But we will see how the drop rates are in the new HYPER-THRAX Plat dungeon when it is introduced.

In the mean time is there any harm in aiming for Elite sets to play with? To pvp with? Considering others will only have Elite sets too?

Right now I am farming for all legendary, elite and mythic sets and all classes. And still using my elite enchanted level 105 sets.

I have met many end game pvpers in two particular guilds who have, capped to level 110 and are grinding away with me with the aim to loot elite sets, the Mythic set we understand is a longer term goal to reach.

But not many of them are boisterous and vocal on forums, none have mentioned "I hate this cap and it is too hard and I'm quitting" . They all still try and are grinding away.

The attitude one has is so very important to enjoy anything we do.

Hey sunny , the issue isn’t necessarily needing mythic to pvp. 95% of end game pvpers are perfectly fine using elite sets to pvp with. The issue is the rate for mythic is so high , that when a piece does finally drop, it’s worth hundreds of mills. And the players who buy these mythics have a huge and unfair advantage in pvp, even if it’s only 1 piece. That 1 piece has an extra enchantment slot on top of its current higher stats.

Manonthemoon440
08-08-2019, 08:44 PM
Maybe questing for full elite set would be better