hey devs

[slaaayerrr]

any changes comming about ebon aegis, ebon sword and venim AA in pvp?

[THE GOLDEN KING]

any changes comming about ebon aegis, ebon sword and venim AA in pvp?

No, you’re welcome.


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[slaaayerrr]

No, you’re welcome.


ah, one of those PRO PVP warriors who enjoying that bs, lol
i've asked devs, not u

[Alghost]

ah, one of those PRO PVP warriors who enjoying that bs, lol
i've asked devs, not u

shame!! Shame!! Shame!!! XD, warriors get 1 year where they actually get to get a kill at pvp endgame. It’s not like rogues have been dominating pvp for the past, hmm how much was it again? 7 years??

Now warrior got to shine in the light for a moment and all rogues complain. Stop whining please, just play the game. Who knows hopefully mages get a lucky break for the next expansion and be able to get kills too, so rogues won’t be the only class that are able to pvp. If you’re bad at pvp just play festerfang I hear that place is pretty fun.


Oh and to answer your thread, the answer is NOOOOOOOO, sts said this approximately 5 or more times this year? It’s not going to change, and I’m pretty sure they already nerfed it 3 times now anyways. Stop crying please.


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[slaaayerrr]

shame!! Shame!! Shame!!!
you seriously think that its so hard to gear pvp warrior 71? or maybe it require OP SKILLS to get cheap kills in pvp by warr71? even for f2p players to make pvp warrior is cheap and easy now; shame is using ebon aegis and venim in pvp lol


If you’re bad at pvp just play festerfang I hear that place is pretty fun.


no whinning, i just wondering if it worth to improve my gears at 71 or better just go normal pvp lvl like 47/63
dont want it to be like: i've sold all pvp gears from 71 and next week sts finally open eyes and try pvp at 71, and fix those weapons and pet (as it happened with tainted 66 only in the end of expansion lol)

your favorite arena in ff outpost bugged too btw, as minimum because it have different rules compared to normal pvp + ebon weapons' procs (reflects) dont have cd in that town


the answer is NOOOOOOOO, sts said this approximately 5 or more times this year?
sts said no? i remember someone with name Fearr bought and sold 3-4 aegises (because of changes) and after that there were 2-3 more changes about all reflects lols

your whole comment and how you tell things is just proving that neft must be happen

[Nate2049]

Tbh they should not nerf it since its the only weapon to keep up with the rogues and mages in PvE, imagine the events from the past months Temple Event you think without ebon aegis warriors could get past atleast wave 15 and compete in leaderboards? Especially in the Party LB you think warriors will get invited? TBlade is not enough it could easily get replaced with a rogue with spirit daggs. How about the goblin event you think warriors will get invited for altar runs and compete in leaderboards? Ebon aegis is fine as it is... Nerf it then say goodbye to all the warriors.

[slaaayerrr]

Tbh they should not nerf it since its the only weapon to keep up with the rogues and mages in PvE, imagine the events from the past months Temple Event you think without ebon aegis warriors could get past atleast wave 15 and compete in leaderboards? Especially in the Party LB you think warriors will get invited? TBlade is not enough it could easily get replaced with a rogue with spirit daggs. How about the goblin event you think warriors will get invited for altar runs and compete in leaderboards? Ebon aegis is fine as it is... Nerf it then say goodbye to all the warriors.

i've said only about pvp part, i have nothing against pve aegis and sword procs:

any changes comming about ebon aegis, ebon sword and venim AA in pvp?

"good bye to all warriors" in pve i've already said since i can do all maps in party like 4rogs/4mages or even solo by same classes (excluding solo deep marsh on mage i guess), warriors in pve will stay useless till sts decide make maps where really need tanking, controlling and damaging, atm all maps require only dealing damage

[Stephencobear]

If you want an answer from a dev the weekend is the worst time as they have it off. Cinco does occasionally log on a couple min but not often. If you want to see if one is even online you can check off topic for "current users".
Otherwise if you only want a dev to answer, pm them rather than start a general discussion which will attract anyone with an opinion.

[slaaayerrr]

If you want an answer from a dev the weekend is the worst time as they have it off.
not in hurry



pm them
they ignore me if i'm pming them (same as ignoring most of other ppl)
they dont even check suggestions section lol

[Jairus980]

ah, one of those PRO PVP warriors who enjoying that bs, lol
i've asked devs, not u

Out of 7 kills, I only got 1-2 from proc. Rest just my raw damage

[Encryptions]

Yes, the changes are; ebon aegis proc now lasts longer, ebon sword is buffed so that it oneshots on proc and venim pulls every .01 seconds also does 1000 damage per second.

Ebon aegis is the only way warriors get kills. This will not be fair if they remove it because warriors will be rocks that can't kill anything. Whats the point of being a warrior if you can't kill ****? Its not fun when you can't do anything. Make a warrior class and pvp with it, then you will see why we need aegis.

[Stephencobear]

Ebon aegis is the only way warriors get kills. This will not be fair if they remove it because warriors will be rocks that can't kill anything. Whats the point of being a warrior if you can't kill ****? Its not fun when you can't do anything. Make a warrior class and pvp with it, then you will see why we need aegis.

Pvp hasn’t been fair for a long time, call me when a dev says your class should only fight it’s own class “if you want a fair fight”, as cinco did for mages lol

( for the record I don’t want it nerfed)

[Jairus980]

Pvp hasn’t been fair for a long time, call me when a dev says your class should only fight it’s own class “if you want a fair fight”, as cinco did for mages lol

( for the record I don’t want it nerfed)

I should have go for that quote in the first place. Thanks xD

[Alghost]

Pvp hasn’t been fair for a long time, call me when a dev says your class should only fight it’s own class “if you want a fair fight”, as cinco did for mages lol

( for the record I don’t want it nerfed)

So it’s safe to assume that pvp is forever broken? And the only time it was somewhat “balanced” was back at cap 36-41? It’s a shame sts doesn’t have a second server where AL started all over again :/. 2013-2015 were its best years.


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[Stephencobear]

So it’s safe to assume that pvp is forever broken? And the only time it was somewhat “balanced” was back at cap 36-41?

I think most would say it was, if not broken by, then crippled by awakenings.
As a smurf, when the dev says I can't expect a fair fight vs a different class, then pvp is irrelevant to me (broken). Other may not agree it's broken - prolly rogues =P

When it was most balanced, I'll leave to others who didn't take a break to play PL like me.

[Staaarlord]

Having a reflect procs in game was a nice idea but I believe it's not correctly balanced yet. Warriors should have the highest reflect damage as it is now (I don't know correct numbers and it doesnt actually matter) like 100-200% lets say, mages 100% and rogs 50%. But it also feels that the damage which is reflected doesn't count the armor of proc user or the armor of damage dealer, for example I'm playing a rogue and I can oneshot myself by hitting shadow pierce into warriors proc even tho i had almost full health and 10k armor, and I have dealt barely over 1k damage to warrior. It's probably same with all reflects but they reflect less, can't says exactly because we weren't provided with actual numbers and details about procs. I honestly don't know if that was intended.


Venim wise, it's proc in pvp simply makes all the tactics and skills of pvp players useless because you can't control your actions and players like to spam them when the match isn't going their way. Changing the aa or adding some type of immunity would be nice.

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[Endroids]

Ebon aegis is the only way warriors get kills.
That’s why I get smacked and still lose to ebon sword/aegis users (no reflect)with 8k+ armor/good stats (some time ago). I rock with 6k armor now in pvp, just playing for fun but wars literally ping pong me and most of my health is gone...Wars do damage, and do not need aegis for kills. If you say you do no pure damage then simply GEAR UP. The only “kills” most of wars get right now are “cheap kills” from rogues being dumb and hitting or just random procs.
2,rogues are broken, but never broken like aegis.


Out of 7 kills, I only got 1-2 from proc. Rest just my raw damage
Proof of war doing actual damage.

Wars (and mages ig) should be able to get kills too, but not out damage rogues ofc, and for the “balanced solution” idk either.

#BALANCE ALL CLASSES SO NO ONE KEEPS CRYING ON FORUMS?! Let’s wait another 50 days for next season, hopefully things get better :D

Anyways CHANGE VENIM AA IN PVP! CHANGE AEGIS IN PVP (*COUGH COLOR OF SHIELDDDDDDDDDDDDD AND DAMAGE IG)
EZZZZZZZ

Well despite all that said I honestly don’t care at this point in the game xd I play for fun in pvp ecksdeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee omegalulzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

[slaaayerrr]

Make a warrior class and pvp with it, then you will see why we need aegis.

Dear, i have(had) warrior at 71 and 63, and i wanna tell that im enjoying playing warrior at 63 more than 71 atm (since ebon weapons released), maybe you will understand that warrior role isnt getting kills, but at 71 even with ebon sword (without aegis) warriors still can get kills. and for tanking in clashes (as main warrior's role) u dont even need lvl71 arcane weapons lol
why i dont go 63 then? i want play and enjoy by MY MAIN toon (rogue 71), sadly that every expansion i need to leave endgame and go lower lvls only because of bs and sts's blindness like tainted 66 with instakills in pvp or these bugged ebon aegis/venim/sword

and about what current balance most of you talking? lol
current balance at 71:
-rogue make mistake (or even just lag a bit or delay) = rogue die
-warrior make mistake (or warrior is mistake of nature as i mostly see in random clashes at 71 now) = his ally rogues die, but not warrior
short example: warrior using ebon sword and getting proc on me + use axe with mastery, it is 2 DoTs, ofc i trying damage him, because he is just using sword, and then he just switch to aegis and getting proc in 0,5 sec because of 2 dots before. any my mistake? he will not use aegis till i start damage him, so vs warrior i should just stay and spam heal packs even if he has sword?
It was example just about switching weapons in time, can add here examples that i hit wrong target in clash only because of lags/delay + bs about same colors cottonkill and aegis proc + while proc of arc armor active - its not possible to see proc of aegis.
where did u all find any balance?

[Alghost]

Rogues still ruled pvp for the past 7 years besides cap 46 kinda. 1 class gets the upper hand and all of a sudden rogue complains how “overpowered” that is. Now I’m hoping mage gets overpowered at level 75 too since they haven’t been good since cap 36 and even then they were “meh”. While rogues have been making all other classes bend the knee for 7 yearssss. Lol just let it go and wait for cap 75, see what sts stirs up next. Really hoping they make mage good for pvp.


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[Terrorshock1]

Rogues still ruled pvp for the past 7 years besides cap 46 kinda. 1 class gets the upper hand and all of a sudden rogue complains how “overpowered” that is. Now I’m hoping mage gets overpowered at level 75 too since they haven’t been good since cap 36 and even then they were “meh”. While rogues have been making all other classes bend the knee for 7 yearssss. Lol just let it go and wait for cap 75, see what sts stirs up next. Really hoping they make mage good for pvp.


Sent from my iPhone using TapatalkDude I'm a tank myself and this proc makes people not wanna pvp it's too overpower just tank stack and no tank will die its ridiculous in the past rogues were dominant but it wasnt to the point where it made people not wanna pvp nerf the shield and buff the damage on the sword this way people can pvp and tanks still get kills


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[Faotblack]

Rogues still ruled pvp for the past 7 years besides cap 46 kinda. 1 class gets the upper hand and all of a sudden rogue complains how “overpowered” that is. Now I’m hoping mage gets overpowered at level 75 too since they haven’t been good since cap 36 and even then they were “meh”. While rogues have been making all other classes bend the knee for 7 yearssss. Lol just let it go and wait for cap 75, see what sts stirs up next. Really hoping they make mage good for pvp.


Sent from my iPhone using TapatalkWas there rly lvl 46 cap?

[PatD]

There is many rogue who are still able to kill warr, maybe it is just because you don’t know how? In pvp all 3 class should get kills, and no, as a warr i will not go do pvp if i cant get kills, what would be the points?? You have to adapt bro

[VenomSet]

Was there rly lvl 46 cap?

Yes there was

[Faotblack]

Yes there wasOh...i thought we passed 46 and went 51.

[|Ares|]

Oh...i thought we passed 46 and went 51.

There wasn't anything like 51 cap. From 46 to 56.

[slaaayerrr]

There is many rogue who are still able to kill warr, maybe it is just because you don’t know how?
there are still a lot of dumb warriors who "dont know how" and die vs rogues at 71, thats what u wanted to tell :3


as a warr i will not go do pvp if i cant get kills
this is telling everything about u as "warr"

[PatD]

So what u saying is that only rogue should have it easy for getting aps and a nice kdr? This telling alot about you as a person.

And because for years rogues where dominating pvp as nothing to do about skill, they where simply TOO OVERPOWERED compare to the other class, so ask rogue who can kill us how they do it, then u will be able to get kills too :)

[Thewolfbull]

Tanks getting easy kills by a proc is the same as rogues getting easy kills by skill damage. I wish it was different where getting nice stats on tanks actually helped with getting kills instead of having to wait for the next useful proc to come to actually get kills at a decent rate, once these weapons are nerfed tanks go back to being support class that can't get kills at a rate that's worth playing for :p just wait rogues will be back to being best killers at PvP soon.

Unless they change skills and stats for rogue/tank/mage and make all classes be able to get kills at a decent rate without relying on the next best procs to come.

Another idea would be to make tanks do insane dmg to other tanks only, same with mages doing insane dmg to other mages, same as rogues are right now being able to kill other rogues easy, devs say only true balance is same classes fighting eachother maybe make it so they actually kill eachother as fast as rogues do eachother, then op procs won't be needed.

[slaaayerrr]

So what u saying is that only rogue should have it easy for getting aps and a nice kdr? This telling alot about you as a person.

playing all classes, dont worrying about kdr lol... so, u told it about urself now haha
FYI rogue is getting more kills because it is dps class; if warr (as tank) or mage (as support) will damage same or more than rogues, whats reason to have rogues in game? are you new in this game or?



...then u will be able to get kills too :)
did i said that i dont get kills on rogue? or what are you trying to prove now? that proc 500% reflect in pvp on tanking class is ok? haha. pathetic...

[Jairus980]

Remove Glow, Nekro and cottonkill. Only then you must have a war for protection.
Problem solved. :)

Y'all complaining not about kills, about rogue and war usefulness. (In my opinion tho)

[Browdy666]

There is many rogue who are still able to kill warr, maybe it is just because you don’t know how? In pvp all 3 class should get kills, and no, as a warr i will not go do pvp if i cant get kills, what would be the points?? You have to adapt bro

Warrior job is to absorb damage and to cover his team. It's not about kills it's about win or lose the whole match.

[Thewolfbull]

Warrior job is to absorb damage and to cover his team. It's not about kills it's about win or lose the whole match.

Why are there warrior PvP aps for kills then?

[Lc9R]

I'm just LMAO watching people, who were "abusing" rogue class for all these years and were burying whoever tried to get rogues nerfed, crying.

[Browdy666]

Why are there warrior PvP aps for kills then?

My point was that rogue will be always faster than warrior in "frags" because he was maden for this. It's easy to understand just by looking at his skills description... What do you prefer? Empty pvp room with full aegis tanks who just talking with each other? Or rogue who able to get kills faster than you because was maden by sts as best burst damage dealer ? Warrior able to get kills but it is harder for him than for rogue because warrior was maden for tanking instead of killing. Why it's so hard to understand? Wanna hear about current situation? I can do nab stats warrior, lets said 10k armor 14k health and I'll able to kill nasty op rogue with crazy damage and armor like 8-9k just by using venim + ebon aegis in clashes. It's difficult to react due to delay or lags in 4 vs 4 clashes. Warrior skills should be changed instead of having such procs...

[PatD]

My point was that rogue will be always faster than warrior in "frags" because he was maden for this. It's easy to understand just by looking at his skills description... What do you prefer? Empty pvp room with full aegis tanks who just talking with each other? Or rogue who able to get kills faster than you because was maden by sts as best burst damage dealer ? Warrior able to get kills but it is harder for him than for rogue because warrior was maden for tanking instead of killing. Why it's so hard to understand? Wanna hear about current situation? I can do nab stats warrior, lets said 10k armor 14k health and I'll able to kill nasty op rogue with crazy damage and armor like 8-9k just by using venim + ebon aegis in clashes. It's difficult to react due to delay or lags in 4 vs 4 clashes. Warrior skills should be changed instead of having such procs...

I agree that when doing hard pve map, the best scenario is to have war tanking, rogue doing the damage and mage crowd controlling, but in pvp each class should be able to change vocation to be able to get some kills/aps, or else what is the point of having a leaderboard?

Even in pve each class should be able to switch for offensive or defensive and support mode, this way our main character can be lot more enjoyable imo

[Korabiv]

All the rogues complaining about how op warriors are.

All the warriors complaining about how op rogues are.

*nobody complaining about mages*

Maybe before sts nerfs one class, they should consider buffing the class that has been useless for far too long so that all classes are playable. Priorities.