View Full Version : Plat users and No Plat Users Leaderboards
Rittik
12-21-2011, 05:18 AM
As we all know Plat users are by far has huge difference than nomal players who basically do most the hardwork....
So it will be nice...if there was a different leaderboards for no plat users..it will be nice...
I want oppininons from all you guys...
Skeletonlord
12-21-2011, 05:22 AM
I like the idea about plat and no plat users. This could update every day as people with plat don't have it anymore etc.......
flashbackflip
12-21-2011, 05:37 AM
I generally agree, but think that it will bring up too many complications
For example, how to divide users who use plat all the time from those who use it just once in a while?
Also, STS doubtfully wants to discourage plat usage - after all, they r makin money on it to develop their games further
Actually, you can tell the difference by looking at kill ratio. Dude slaughtered 165.323 enemy is obviously plat-clean;))) and actually, this difference makes him higher in rankings
Diodge
12-21-2011, 05:52 AM
I hope they never get to the point where this is the new update. They already give free players a lot of things for free.
I work hard so I can buy plat to steal all the kills from no plat users. hahaHAHAHahaAHAHAH
Rittik
12-21-2011, 06:17 AM
Ya but sure...u feel most of the players on leaderboards are just plat users...at least the people on leaderboards who are my friends are...Regular Plat users....this is just...i dont like it.....
Moreover STS provides the list of "who were the fastest to cap"....i challenge that all these are plat users....
At least.they shouldnt disrespect noplat users...who are toooooo rare to see their names on leaderboards(of course except deaths).....
STS should also provide names of no plat users who were to reach cap first...
Kakatoa91
12-21-2011, 06:20 AM
In PL, sts started a list of people reaching cap at nuri map before mount fang.
They said they would do it for non plat users but in the end they didnt release it unless I miss some threads.
So probably they wont do it I imagine.
Cos, there are always tensions between plat user or no.
In SL, if im not wrong Pabochan cap voleria without plat yesterday. There r others but im not sure, need to ask around.
Anyway, I dont care much as long people have fun. :)
Kinect
12-21-2011, 06:28 AM
In PL, sts started a list of people reaching cap at nuri map before mount fang.
They said they would do it for non plat users but in the end they didnt release it unless I miss some threads.
So probably they wont do it I imagine.
Cos, there are always tensions between plat user or no.
In SL, if im not wrong Pabochan cap voleria without plat yesterday. There r others but im not sure, need to ask around.
Anyway, I dont care much as long people have fun. :)
they were going to post a thread for non plat users that hit the cap, but there were none
Teddyache
12-21-2011, 06:40 AM
This is a nice idea in theory but the reality is it is next to impossible and has too many complications. Your issue is really with enhancers, not with plat itself, because you can fairly easily drop gear that is (IMHO) slightly better than the Plat gear for PvE. Who doesn't use the free daily enhancers? Would you consider for the non-plat leader board people who don't use Plat weapons and armor, or who don't use enhancers, or both? Would the free enhancers then not count?
More importantly, would people who don't use plat then be looked down on by those that choose to support the company that makes the game? If it weren't for Plat users, non Plat users would not have the game to play. This is not meant to offend, just to keep things in perspective. This has been pointed out by others in many threads before this anyway.
Providing the names of non Plat users to cap could be a nice compromise! I like that idea better.
Kinect
12-21-2011, 06:49 AM
This is a nice idea in theory but the reality is it is next to impossible and has too many complications. Your issue is really with enhancers, not with plat itself, because you can fairly easily drop gear that is (IMHO) slightly better than the Plat gear for PvE. Who doesn't use the free daily enhancers? Would you consider for the non-plat leader board people who don't use Plat weapons and armor, or who don't use enhancers, or both? Would the free enhancers then not count?
More importantly, would people who don't use plat then be looked down on by those that choose to support the company that makes the game? If it weren't for Plat users, non Plat users would not have the game to play. This is not meant to offend, just to keep things in perspective. This has been pointed out by others in many threads before this anyway.
Providing the names of non Plat users to cap could be a nice compromise! I like that idea better.
heh teddyache is a funny name
Rittik
12-21-2011, 07:40 AM
This is a nice idea in theory but the reality is it is next to impossible and has too many complications. Your issue is really with enhancers, not with plat itself, because you can fairly easily drop gear that is (IMHO) slightly better than the Plat gear for PvE. Who doesn't use the free daily enhancers? Would you consider for the non-plat leader board people who don't use Plat weapons and armor, or who don't use enhancers, or both? Would the free enhancers then not count?
More importantly, would people who don't use plat then be looked down on by those that choose to support the company that makes the game? If it weren't for Plat users, non Plat users would not have the game to play. This is not meant to offend, just to keep things in perspective. This has been pointed out by others in many threads before this anyway.
Providing the names of non Plat users to cap could be a nice compromise! I like that idea better.
heh teddyache is a funny name
LoL television! :P
Hey i know Pablobobchann is my very close frend...i know thts why i wanted a leaderboard for non plat user too...cause players like her never get their chance against super fast 4X/3X users
Chabone
12-21-2011, 08:48 AM
If you hit 41 in 4 days you are a major plat usere
PablobobChan
12-21-2011, 08:54 AM
Lol that would be nice. People would see how I reached 41 without plat ;) lol
mechengineeernick
12-21-2011, 09:02 AM
I am not sure how long the update has been out... but in regards to Pablobobchann, I can vouch for many of the runs she did. I ran with her many times, and I never saw an xp elixer.
As Pab is a friend, and officer in my guild, I also tell you she has been on at least 12 hours a day. I would probably put that number closer to 16/day, but I can't say.
Regarding a plat/no plat leaderboard, I don't see it happening. As mentioned above, splitting leaderboards will alienate plat and no-plat users. A good alternative might be a time spent in game to achieve level cap leaderboard, but I don't know.
Rittik
12-21-2011, 10:24 AM
Then Atleast we the non plat user can get a diff thread for who were the fastest among.non plats user to.cap?
vulgarstrike
12-21-2011, 10:28 AM
I'd be against it.
It would create a divide in our community.
Plus, they make their money off this stuff.
I like the idea and it would be cool if they start it up.
Rittik
12-21-2011, 12:59 PM
We already could easily see the difference among Players ...people hving plats are getting epic implants...where we non plats stuck to same old rare ones to craft....a small example...steel skin and dura skin...makes a far too difference...
By far Plat users are best :)
At least my point is:-
If they provide epic implants for plat..non plat users can also buy with creds
If they provide pink shields for plat users....non plats should also be able to buy em using creds :)
Thats it
I dont wanna make division...i wanna say...people should be equal
I make it clear I AM NOT JEALOUSE
saiyen
12-21-2011, 01:22 PM
Ahh nice rittik:-)
PablobobChan
12-21-2011, 02:16 PM
I am not sure how long the update has been out... but in regards to Pablobobchann, I can vouch for many of the runs she did. I ran with her many times, and I never saw an xp elixer.
As Pab is a friend, and officer in my guild, I also tell you she has been on at least 12 hours a day. I would probably put that number closer to 16/day, but I can't say.
Regarding a plat/no plat leaderboard, I don't see it happening. As mentioned above, splitting leaderboards will alienate plat and no-plat users. A good alternative might be a time spent in game to achieve level cap leaderboard, but I don't know.
Correction - 24 hours.
...
Lol jkjk :P
Enhancers are a choice, they are not needed to level. However, implants and stuff, yes I agree, that is putting gear difference too far, IMO. BUT, STS was kind enough to offer a service known as TapJoy for those expenditures, as TapJoy can pretty much cover the platinum purchase here and there.
The only thing that TapJoy can't really cover is continuous enhancer use and continuous pay per instance. Then again, there are credit alternatives for the enhancer use. Granted they are expensive, but you got to put in the work somehow.
Snakespeare
12-21-2011, 03:16 PM
I think paying for someone else's work is "normal", and not paying is benefiting from other people paying. So I don't agree with you calling the free players "normal". Furthermore, it would cost money to develop a separate leader board. Who's gonna pay for it, the plat buyers? Why should the plat buyers pay for the free players to have something when the free players don't even consider the ones who pay for the game "normal"?
ArtStar
12-21-2011, 08:04 PM
As we all know Plat users are by far has huge difference than nomal players who basically do most the hardwork....
So it will be nice...if there was a different leaderboards for no plat users..it will be nice...
I want oppininons from all you guys...
I pretty much use to feel this way in the past. I totally quit SL for a month because I didn't really use much plat in my battle with Hyun for #1 kills, and from a fellow hardcore kill grinder. . . I could tell he only ever ran juiced off plat. I was playing TOO much trying to keep up and get a good lead on him. Only to have him get more kills in half the time. When I made my return, he didn't capitalize on my break from SL at all. Just so happened that when I returned he went on a break which I obviously took advantage of, and now that Volaria is out there's no chance anyone is going to catch me. :]
You know, plat REALLY isn't a waste of money if you are spending obscene amounts of time on this game "working hard." Spending a few extra bucks isn't a lot imo when it helps cut down that time you are spending indubitably.
THE Tesla
12-21-2011, 08:15 PM
indubitably.
Lolz
Rittik
12-21-2011, 09:16 PM
I dont.want.to make a.division in our wonderful community...the thing i wanted is impossible i.believe...i love this game Star Legends...I love STS....
I have found that this thread is a form of debate thats going on...i dont want arguement and thots....its going far out of hand...so i have already Messaged Devs to lock this thread down
Thank you all my wonderfull friends for giving out your thoughts on this issue...it was a wonderfull pleasure to discuss...but sorry...this is going out of Hand
This thread will be locked Down
ArtStar
12-22-2011, 03:50 AM
Lolz
It was the first word that came to mind at the moment, hush. :P
Snakespeare
12-22-2011, 12:14 PM
I dont.want.to make a.division in our wonderful community...the thing i wanted is impossible i.believe...i love this game Star Legends...I love STS....
I have found that this thread is a form of debate thats going on...i dont want arguement and thots....its going far out of hand...so i have already Messaged Devs to lock this thread down
Thank you all my wonderfull friends for giving out your thoughts on this issue...it was a wonderfull pleasure to discuss...but sorry...this is going out of Hand
This thread will be locked Down
Why should we who pay for the game have to pay for you who do not to have a special leader board? If you can't answer the question, maybe you should concede the point, instead of requesting a lock.
vulgarstrike
12-22-2011, 12:26 PM
Why should we who pay for the game have to pay for you who do not to have a special leader board? If you can't answer the question, maybe you should concede the point, instead of requesting a lock.
We'll aren't paying for the board, per se, but I do think that we who have invested much money, (I, into 3 digit figures..) should not be punished for what we do, support the game, by being cordoned off from the other players. The advantage we receive is fair in its own right.
When I started playing, free players couldn't even join any dungeons except forest haven and dark forest.
Free players are lucky enough to now be able to be offered the opportunity to play among the actual purchasers of this game without fee.
Be thankful that you receive a trial of what this game has to offer, and...
... realize that the core audience will
never be diminished,
never be segregated,
never stop supporting this game,
never die.
Samhayne
12-22-2011, 01:03 PM
I dont.want.to make a.division in our wonderful community...the thing i wanted is impossible i.believe...i love this game Star Legends...I love STS....
I have found that this thread is a form of debate thats going on...i dont want arguement and thots....its going far out of hand...so i have already Messaged Devs to lock this thread down
Thank you all my wonderfull friends for giving out your thoughts on this issue...it was a wonderfull pleasure to discuss...but sorry...this is going out of Hand
This thread will be locked Down
Locking thread at Rittik's request. We also have similar discussion about Leaderboards in the PL suggestion forum at: http://www.spacetimestudios.com/showthread.php?46145-Leaderboards-Soliciting-Community-Thoughts