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Montanabro
01-01-2012, 01:52 PM
In PL it's about 10 hours and 400 or so plat to get from 65 to 66 (assuming mostly 4x groups). Using the 3x elixir in SL and assuming mostly 3x groups, how much time and play does it take to get from 40 to 41?

javier995
01-01-2012, 02:06 PM
Time depends on your group. So not really an estimated amount can be given.

Let's just do the math shall we.

•Each mantle run (xp run) is 12 xp
•Each run is about 1 minute or so give or take on your team

Let's say you use the 3x elixir and have a team that goes through runs at 1minute.
•12 x 3 is 36, so 36 per run
•You take a minute to do a run so, 1380 xp per elixir.
•You have about 2,160 per hour. Thus it'll take around 12 hours and around 50 minutes or so. Let's just say 13 hours.

So about the plat and how much.
•3x elixir is 12 plat in tier3 Gh and 15plat if you don't have tier3.
•If it takes 13 hours and it's 24 plat per hour, you'll be spending roughly around 312 plat. Just using regular 3x

If you use no plat, well around 36hours I guess if you do the math.

Montanabro
01-01-2012, 02:32 PM
Time depends on your group. So not really an estimated amount can be given.

Let's just do the math shall we.

•Each mantle run (xp run) is 12 xp
•Each run is about 1 minute or so give or take on your team

Let's say you use the 3x elixir and have a team that goes through runs at 1minute.
•12 x 3 is 36, so 36 per run
•You take a minute to do a run so, 1380 xp per elixir.
•You have about 2760 per hour. Thus it'll take around 10 hours and 3 minutes and around 20 seconds.


If you use no plat, well around 30 hours I guess if you do the math.

About the same as in PL. thanks!

javier995
01-01-2012, 02:36 PM
Np!

Oops didn't add how much plat it would take>_< let me edit:p

LelouchX
01-01-2012, 02:41 PM
on average, my runs have been anywhere from 40 - 50 seconds when i do guild runs. if you use the 2x damage they go really quickly, had a group using all combo lix and they were about 30 - 40 seconds. so the math:

Scenario 1:
- lix = 1800 seconds
- 50 second runs: 1800/50 = 36 runs/lix
- 36 runs * 12 xp = 432 xp no xp/damage lix, 1296 with 3x xp lix
- so in an hour, 864xp no lix, 2593 with 3x
- no lix: 28000/864 = 32 hours
- 3x lix: 28000/2593 = 11 hours
- total plat using discount lix in GH (3x xp = 12, or 24/hour)
- 11hrs * 24plat/hr = 264 plat

Scenario 2:
- lix = 1800 seconds
- 40 second runs: 1800/40 = 45 runs/lix
- 45 runs * 12 xp = 540xp, 540 * 3 = 1620 xp/lix
- so in an hour, 3240 xp
- 3x lix: 28000/3240 = 8.6 hours
- total plat using discount lix in GH (3x xp = 12, 2x damage = 5, total 17, or 34/hour)
- 8.6hrs * 34plat/hr = 292.4 plat

So if you are going to use the lix, decide for yourself if the extra 30 plat is worth 2 hours of your time. i've spent more plat on stuff i never use anymore, so it's worth it for me. Happy grinding!

pretty sure my math is right here, feel free to correct me if not.

javier995
01-01-2012, 02:50 PM
on average, my runs have been anywhere from 40 - 50 seconds when i do guild runs. if you use the 2x damage they go really quickly, had a group using all combo lix and they were about 30 - 40 seconds. so the math:

Scenario 1:
- lix = 1800 seconds
- 50 second runs: 1800/50 = 36 runs/lix
- 36 runs * 12 xp = 432 xp no xp/damage lix, 1296 with 3x xp lix
- so in an hour, 864xp no lix, 2593 with 3x
- no lix: 28000/864 = 32 hours
- 3x lix: 28000/2593 = 11 hours
- total plat using discount lix in GH (3x xp = 12, or 24/hour)
- 11hrs * 24plat/hr = 264 plat

Scenario 2:
- lix = 1800 seconds
- 40 second runs: 1800/40 = 45 runs/lix
- 45 runs * 12 xp = 540xp, 540 * 3 = 1620 xp/lix
- so in an hour, 3240 xp
- 3x lix: 28000/3240 = 8.6 hours
- total plat using discount lix in GH (3x xp = 12, 2x damage = 5, total 17, or 34/hour)
- 8.6hrs * 34plat/hr = 292.4 plat

So if you are going to use the lix, decide for yourself if the extra 30 plat is worth 2 hours of your time. i've spent more plat on stuff i never use anymore, so it's worth it for me. Happy grinding!

pretty sure my math is right here, feel free to correct me if not.



Nope your math is correct. That is to say for that time it takes to do runs. I just gave an average of 1 minute bc that's how long I've seen most take without using the multi.

LelouchX
01-01-2012, 02:55 PM
I just gave an average of 1 minute bc that's how long I've seen most take without using the multi.
I mentioned the multi because those runs took a little over 30 seconds on average, but even with 2 or 3 people using just the 2x damage and the rest of group on no damage boosting lix, runs were usually just under 40 seconds, so that is why i used the high end times for both of the calculations. i generally dont like to estimate, OCD at its finest

javier995
01-01-2012, 03:00 PM
I mentioned the multi because those runs took a little over 30 seconds on average, but even with 2 or 3 people using just the 2x damage and the rest of group on no damage boosting lix, runs were usually just under 40 seconds, so that is why i used the high end times for both of the calculations. i generally dont like to estimate, OCD at its finest


Oic

If it wasn't for me doing your math I wouldn't have caught my mistake. Lol I have to stop doing so much quick math in my head, I'm not as good as I use to be >_< lol


I'll fix my math.

Montanabro
01-01-2012, 04:07 PM
Time depends on your group. So not really an estimated amount can be given.

Let's just do the math shall we.

•Each mantle run (xp run) is 12 xp
•Each run is about 1 minute or so give or take on your team

Let's say you use the 3x elixir and have a team that goes through runs at 1minute.
•12 x 3 is 36, so 36 per run
•You take a minute to do a run so, 1380 xp per elixir.
•You have about 2760 per hour. Thus it'll take around 10 hours and 3 minutes and around 20 seconds.


If you use no plat, well around 30 hours I guess if you do the math.

About the same as in PL. thanks!

Cahaun
01-01-2012, 04:42 PM
As a person who doesn't use plat I say..... "I will die" (@_@)

ninjaduck
01-01-2012, 04:56 PM
I got a idea from a friend of doing WF for 4 hours without doing the boss. There's also a vanity chance from the chests, I'm not sure of the xp but I think it's about 24 xp per run.

krazii
01-01-2012, 05:48 PM
Everybody swears by mantle. But I've found colony to go much faster and net more exp. mobs are easier and there's more of them. On the 3x elixirs I can get 3300 per hour. On multi elixir it goes up to 4000 per hour (if everybody uses multi). Note. Use 3 comms, 1 op, and one eng. have op take all snipers and those dogs. Good luck. Look me up if you want to ever do a multi run.

LelouchX
01-01-2012, 05:56 PM
I got a idea from a friend of doing WF for 4 hours without doing the boss. There's also a vanity chance from the chests, I'm not sure of the xp but I think it's about 24 xp per run.
This does require 2 plat each time though, doesn't it?

Everybody swears by mantle. But I've found colony to go much faster and net more exp. mobs are easier and there's more of them. On the 3x elixirs I can get 3300 per hour. On multi elixir it goes up to 4000 per hour (if everybody uses multi). Note. Use 3 comms, 1 op, and one eng. have op take all snipers and those dogs. Good luck. Look me up if you want to ever do a multi run.
care to give your strategy? u do whole stage, or just up to a certain point?

javier995
01-01-2012, 06:04 PM
Actually in WF you have 4 hours to play it (if you're in a dungeon), so until you beat the boss it'll just never run out unless it runs out in a dungeon.


I had WF pass since Xmas eve and I just killed the boss today lol. I had 49 minutes left.

ninjaduck
01-01-2012, 06:29 PM
This does require 2 plat each time though, doesn't it?

care to give your strategy? u do whole stage, or just up to a certain point?

Yeah for every 4 hours of WF running, not every run :D

krazii
01-01-2012, 11:39 PM
This does require 2 plat each time though, doesn't it?

care to give your strategy? u do whole stage, or just up to a certain point?

Sure. Pull all mobs To central points. We send comm out to pull mobs while other comms spam aoes and op and eng kill hogs and purp mobs. Two central points. First is at first point where you turn right. We pull all mobs,even ones from airship that arrives to that area. Kill them then run to next point which is where bridge is (on left). Again. Pull all mobs here. You can remake after first point but it genially ends up being about same amount. I've tried this strategy on mantle, pulling main hall and side room but mobs are still a bit tougher and take longer to kill. When we run colony we barely stop. Good luck