Sts please fix lag

[Jewelsofjane]

Lag has become increasingly worse. It started about a month ago. It is now unbearable to play the game. I used to average 68-100. Now the lag spikes go from 150-700 at any point in a pvp game usually 15 times a game. Everyone I spoke too is experiencing the same. Many pvp players have stopped playing until lag is reduced, and I am at that point as well. It has even interfered with the tourney. Please help make our game playable again.

[Blind]

150-700 unplayable? LOLOLO
Don't even make people angry. My whole pl career i pvped at endgame with 500-1000 ping, and never hard green even once.

There plenty of others who have constant red.

Saying that 150-700 is unplayble is just ridiculous to me.

You are spoiled.

[SUPAPRODIGY]

lagg has increased alot i would say as more people play the game an there Internet isnt very strong therefore making Lagg unless its the server We share With SL.

[Justg]

500 is a half a second, and is very good. Game should play fine up to 1000.

[Jewelsofjane]

500 is a half a second, and is very good. Game should play fine up to 1000.

Half a second means a death in my games. People start "teleporting" at 300.... I guess I should Just get used to seeing people disappear and reappear.

[Pathologyx]

500 is a half a second, and is very good. Game should play fine up to 1000.

Half a second means a death in my games. But thx anyways

L2PvP?

[Carth]

I don't experience any lag on my tablet in PvP. I doubt this is a problem on STS end.

[Jewelsofjane]

At least 10 other players have said they have experienced increased lag in the last several weeks. We have all started actually lagging out of games and it certainly makes its tough with a tourney going on.

I can't help but wonder if the increase of lag is due to strain of yet another game (dl) on one server.

[Paar]

Lol check your internet princess :) (STS Y U NO FIX HER LAG PROBLEM!!!!!!) I swar... Irresponsible ;) P.s. Jk Jk:)

[Piosidon]

Sometimes ping is like 100 but it freezes whenever someone joins or respawns in pvp...

[CrimsonTider]

You do realize it could also be due to changes in your ISP, device, modem, and many other factors. To simply say this has something to do with STS and their servers is a bit pushing it. I hqve always averaged 150-300 and if I do have consistant spikes of over 300, I simply reset my router and/or phone and I am back in business.

I also know alot of individuals who pvp and have ALWAYS dealt with "lag" and have always dealt with it. To be honest, the amount of people is growing who ONLY have "lag" when they lose and it is becoming quite comical. Almost like a slap in the face to us casual pvpers in saying that we can only win due to "lag".

[MightyMicah]

I agree with CrimsonTider to an extent, though I have to say I believe ping has been getting worse recently. Could just be a coincidence of course but the more people we find to agree, the more support for this theory.

@JustG what are you smoking? Half a second=sudden death. 1,000 ping=SUDDEN DEATH. Lol see the difference? (just messin around of course) still I can't say I'm with you on that one JustG. ;)

[Kaytar]

Yesterday my ping spiked up to 51k but I belive I have poor 3G service. Maybe you could use a different internet connection?

[Jewelsofjane]

@crimson- is it possible that the increase of lag complaints may actually be problems with true lag? I would have thought the same as u if i had not been experiencing the same, and yes lag will cause you to die and not kill. So its VERY possible they are being truthful, and since you dont know for sure, then you should take their word for it and not assume.

I would never complain like this to sts if I didn't have many many others telling they have had the same problem over the last several weeks. I am well aware it could be my connection, but as I have tested my own connection, it hasn't changed. To say its so impossible that more players and more games isn't lagging the one server seems illogical. Now that you know that my connection is the same and others say they only started lagging in the last couple weeks stop telling me that it is just my connection.

Frankly I thought letting them know what was going on on the players side would be valuable. But what do I know about pvp?

[CrimsonTider]

@crimson- is it possible that the increase of lag complaints may actually be problems with true lag? I would have thought the same as u if i had not been experiencing the same, and yes lag will cause you to die and not kill. So its VERY possible they are being truthful, and since you dont know for sure, then you should take their word for it and not assume.

I would never complain like this to sts if I didn't have many many others telling they have had the same problem over the last several weeks. I am well aware it could be my connection, but as I have tested my own connection, it hasn't changed. To say its so impossible that more players and more games isn't lagging the one server seems illogical. Now that you know that my connection is the same and others say they only started lagging in the last couple weeks stop telling me that it is just my connection.

Frankly I thought letting them know what was going on on the players side would be valuable. But what do I know about pvp?

I wasn't just speaking to you nor was I telling you it was "just your connection". I pvp just as much as others do as I spend a lot of time twinking and not just at end game and I can tell you two things: (1) I hear very few people complain of lag, and (2) the majority of the time when individuals do complain, it is ONLY when they lose. I cannot count the times I have 1v1 someone and the only time I hear "lag" is when they lose. It is a very common "excuse" and those regular to the pvp arena will agree. If you have just read what I said, I am stating this as a general statement and not directing solely at you.

And another thing, just because your connection strength is strong, it does not mean your internet is running smoothly or properly. Other factors can weigh in on your connection as I know I have to battle phone calls, my children on the internet, my wife using her iPad, text messages to my phone, etc. The purpose of my first post was simply to state that there are other factors in play and not solely the fault of STS (which is the basis of your thread.) I will point out again that I do not average "perfect" ping and know several well-known pvpers whom have had "lag" since I have known them. They have learned to adapt and deal with the situation.

Remember that when you make a public thread, you are opening the door for others to read and give feedback. If you are going to get upset, or offended, by the feedback or get answers you don't want to hear, then it is best you send your complaints in a private message to STS.

[MightyMicah]

@Crimson, i don't think he meant any offense bro. I think he was just saying the same as I said, that more and more people having lag should be evidence of a laggy server. As I can see you definitely disagree that there's been a laggy server lately so obviously there's some kind of problem.

I also wanted to let you know that not everyone complains of lag just when they lose. I have "complained" of lag when I win and have seen others do the same. Granted you make a good point about alot of players complaining of lag when they lose. That's where you gotta realize whos honest and whos not. If i hears you complain of lag while losing, i would believe you, versus if I hear "penealgavern" complain of lag when he loses I would be less inclined to listen.

[Samhayne]

There are many, many factors involved in connecting you device, where you are at in the world, to the game server (hosted on Amazon's EC2 cloud service). You might check this article http://support.spacetimestudios.com/entries/20174526-i-m-experiencing-lag-when-playing-what-can-i-do

[Jewelsofjane]

@crimson- I didn't take any offense. I know other things can affect my connection, but again I only came after so many are having increasing problems.

Most people who pvp don't even post on the forum so my one voice is pointless. Thx Sam for the link. Although I have already done those things and nothing has changed in my atmosphere, and players who didn't complain 4 weeks ago about lag are still complaining to me about it, I guess we will just adapt. I asked around last night. Several people said it started when winter fest started. Maybe it's the snow idk, but thx anyway.

[Blind]

So you say 300 ping will kill you...

It's just an excuse.

I ctfed for my whole pl career with 500(on good days) - 1000 ping...ALWAYS, and i was invited multiple times by different members to join Revelation.

I was a dex bird btw-means it's a matter of second before you die or kill.

Lag isn't gonna destroy your pvp experience unless it's 1500-3000k constant ping.

Enough said.

[KingFu]

So you say 300 ping will kill you...

It's just an excuse.

I ctfed for my whole pl career with 500(on good days) - 1000 ping...ALWAYS, and i was invited multiple times by different members to join Revelation.

I was a dex bird btw-means it's a matter of second before you die or kill.

Lag isn't gonna destroy your pvp experience unless it's 1500-3000k constant ping.

Enough said.

For me personally, part of it is how used to it you are. You adapt to your ping. For example. I was on my droid, and I was experiencing frames skipping. I was struggling to PvP with it since I wasn't used to it. Yet, Amyxrose experiences it all the time, and is still a great PvPer. She said she just learned to live with it. If you are used to your screen jumping, or your ping being higher, you work around it. You find ways to get over the obstacle of having it, and learn how to play with it, as opposed to someone who just had that obstacle set in front of them and is yet to try and work with it and adapt to that way of playing.

[Blind]

I guess you are right in a way mate.

[Onaraasider]

Mine went up to 6000 and I could only move ...lol

[Jewelsofjane]

There is some lag induced on sts' end. Numbers speak very loud so I will provide some. This morning, I did around 10 test on my computer at the time I was experiencing some intown lag. My results were:
Download Upload Ping
48.60 Mb/s 3.73 Mb/s 21 ms
38.88 Mb/s 3.76 Mb/s 21 ms
35.14 Mb/s 3.74 Mb/s 21 ms
48.95 Mb/s 3.71 Mb/s 21 ms
40.47 Mb/s 3.77 Mb/s 21 ms
39.91 Mb/s 3.74 Mb/s 20 ms

Ping seems to be pretty consistent. I tested my phone, which will show any lag induced by phone, apps, or anything that would interfere with my connection:
http://i1197.photobucket.com/albums/aa434/mnpmoseley/2b3dc8a2.jpg

Download speed is a bit affected, but still is considered outstanding. My ping on my phone is more than outstanding. Thus proving that no app or interference has anything to do with my connection on my phone.

Just sitting in town I got the following ping:
http://i1197.photobucket.com/albums/aa434/mnpmoseley/3aad0aaf.jpg
http://i1197.photobucket.com/albums/aa434/mnpmoseley/96106e28.jpg

I did not get screenshots of during a pvp battle because I dont feel like dying to take a screenshot. Those are anywhere from 250-700 ping.

Now my conclusion: 250 ping isnt horrible. It just changes up my strategy. But my argument isnt about just the lagged induced pl app. It is about a CHANGE in lag in the last several weeks. My tests have been the same for the last several weeks, the only thing that has changed is the ingame lag. Lag is the worst in any 5 vs 5 map.
I USED to average around 68 ping intown, and this is what I USED to exp in ctf.
http://i1197.photobucket.com/albums/aa434/mnpmoseley/61ebfd7a.jpg

Anyway, I am assuming it is the winter fest. We will see later on today if it is. I just wish a dev would look at this and respond. These numbers say that it isnt in my imagination, and yes 1000 ping is NOT playable on anyones device. I would be shocked if you can even move, much less see your enemies.

[Fusionstrike]

It's hard to know to what degree STS can do anything about the ping rates the OP is seeing. However, it is undeniable that there is a large server-side lag spike when players join games. Everyone experiences it, and it's a significant interruption. In PvE it's just annoying, but for PvP it can certainly affect the outcome. IMO, the real thing we should be expecting from STS is that they invest some serious effort into eliminating join lag. It's clearly a server-side effect and warrants a concerted effort to optimize the code in this area so that such lag can be minimized.

[Swimmingstar]

You can't really. "fix" lag.

[Fusionstrike]

You can't really. "fix" lag.

Well, it depends what kind of "lag" we're talking about. It's an overused term. You're right that network-based latency is not something STS can do much about. However, there is some "lag" when a new player joins a zone. This "lag" is a delay where everything stops for a second or two, it always happens the same way every time and everyone experiences it. This type of "lag" is the one I was referring to. It is server processing latency, and is 100% under STS's control. It's caused by the server doing too much processing on player join to process the other game events on time. It's the hallmark of inefficient code, and is something STS could absolutely fix if they wanted to.