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hunterxhunter44
02-25-2020, 10:25 PM
Can you clarify what does change of timur aa gl? Did he stock in our gold loot or not?

Stephencobear
02-25-2020, 10:51 PM
He does.

If people say don’t use him because it’s bad for drops, they are usually either ignorant or stupid.
Here Cinco confirms his aa works: https://www.spacetimestudios.com/showthread.php?443000-Question-about-timur-aa&highlight=Timur

hunterxhunter44
02-25-2020, 11:47 PM
Nice bro. Thank you so much for response :*

Premo
02-26-2020, 02:12 AM
Same im using my timur on late esg some player saying dont use timurs aa, and the other say im stupid or nab because of that. T_T

Crocodile
02-26-2020, 04:03 AM
Recently those nab claiming that heroic oswald lowering their gold loot..i cannot brain..

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hunterxhunter44
02-26-2020, 04:59 AM
Recently those nab claiming that heroic oswald lowering their gold loot..i cannot brain..

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How much heroic oswald give?? Gold loot? It stock?

Zikovsky
02-26-2020, 07:56 AM
How much heroic oswald give?? Gold loot? It stock?
If I can remember correctly, sts said the heroic AA give 20% gl 20% luck and 15% gl 15% luck (normal) Oswald.

ranknabz
02-26-2020, 08:51 PM
idk timur AA work good or na...but i feel.it..
like it decrease(oe instean remove) our gl "sometimes"

IFFIT
02-27-2020, 08:19 AM
in my opinion it's AA good just for u, But it will be bad for others in ur party.
Just my opini. :)

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Stephencobear
02-27-2020, 08:30 AM
idk timur AA work good or na...but i feel.it..
like it decrease(oe instean remove) our gl "sometimes"

Nope




in my opinion it's AA good just for u, But it will be bad for others in ur party.
Just my opini. :)

Double nope

Encryptions
02-27-2020, 10:55 AM
People say it debuffs their gold loot but they don't understand that timur is only a 50gl buff difference.. It does not debuff gold loot because I tested in vg, with 840gl no timur the max I drop was 47k then I did timur aa I drop 49k maximum. 890gl.

Overgrown
02-28-2020, 04:45 AM
Greetings, The timur AA still controversial, and I read @cinco's replies about it, I own 1 and I not even using because the fact that it really does debuffs the GL, heres how I conclude why it does debuff gl

Everytime I enter gates, I enter with 0 gold and the party with us using arc cheater and chester

In 18 waves I get 180-200k

While when a timur in pt is around 140k

Here's what happens, yes timurs improves the maximum gold loot, but the chance of low-gold(5k-10k) drop is more often, than without timur where its mostly in mid-drop(10-15)


Ps. And why we will complain about it if its also beneficial to us, maybe there is a hole on its program that it doesn't stack with other gl buffs (chester,arc chest, regift).

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Stephencobear
02-28-2020, 08:25 AM
the fact that it really does debuffs the GL,

Nope

“There is nothing in the game that decreases gold loot”
- Futumsh quote

Ilove_Poopoo
02-28-2020, 08:49 AM
How about a statistical test of X (preferably 30 or 50) waves, using timur AA and not. With X samples each ( X 50waves with Timur AA and another X 50 waves w/o Timur AA)

Conditions being; party should be the same for all test for cooperation; the party shouldn't use any goldloot pet passives (Chester, Re-gifter etc.) to not interfere with the gold loot increase from those.

Scope and limitations being that human errors are inevitable, and are likely to miss the AA upon death of boss, or failed to switch to gl set which all affect the test.

To make it simple and still accurate, you could round up the gold drops (38,928g ~ 40k) for easier spotting. Furthermore, only the goldrops from bosses are used for the test (data done in excel) and not those from mobs.

This test should answer the frequency of low/high gold piles using Timur AA, such that If either Timur AA triggers lower gold ranges or the same and If Timur AA affects the Max and Min gold drop.

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Cinco
02-28-2020, 09:18 AM
It does not debuff gold loot.

Timur gives you +25% Bonus Gold Loot and +25% Loot Re-Roll chance. Nothing in the game "debuffs" gold loot.

Crocodile
02-28-2020, 09:27 AM
It does not debuff gold loot.

Timur gives you +25% Bonus Gold Loot and +25% Loot Re-Roll chance. Nothing in the game "debuffs" gold loot.I know it doesn't debuff gold loot, but some ppl think they know better than dev.

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Ilove_Poopoo
02-28-2020, 09:43 AM
I think what people think is timur aa frequently triggers lower gold ranges rather than it reducing goldloot.

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Cinco
02-28-2020, 09:51 AM
I think what people think is timur aa frequently triggers lower gold ranges rather than it reducing goldloot.

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People may think this - but this is also patently incorrect. It does not do this. Nothing in the game does this.

Overgrown
02-28-2020, 10:27 AM
I know it doesn't debuff gold loot, but some ppl think they know better than dev.

Sent from my SM-G973F using TapatalkIt is based on experience, anyways I let it be and just not party with timur users or just give up our points and just accept what the system gives.

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Cinco
02-28-2020, 10:28 AM
It is based on experience, anyways I let it be and just not party with timur users.

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I have tested Timur much more than you have. My experience with him, how he works, what he can and cannot do is based on real facts.

Overgrown
02-28-2020, 10:30 AM
I have tested Timur much more than you have. My experience with him, how he works, what he can and cannot do is based on real facts.Thank you.

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Cinco
02-28-2020, 10:30 AM
Thank you.

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You are welcome.

Encryptions
02-28-2020, 10:38 AM
I have tested Timur much more than you have. My experience with him, how he works, what he can and cannot do is based on real facts.
*Shows Timurs coding proving that he can not physically in any way reduce gold loot.*
Players: *Fake code fake it reduse my golds drops cause I dropped 20k and not 50k every round.*

Crocodile
02-28-2020, 10:43 AM
*Shows Timurs coding proving that he can not physically in any way reduce gold loot.*
Players: *Fake code fake it reduse my golds drops cause I dropped 20k and not 50k every round.*Well u know how annoying when you get in random party then someone asking you to use this pet instead of that pet..imo, this type of ppl should run in ghost party. Smh

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Cinco
02-28-2020, 10:56 AM
I can understand where some confusion may arise. Gold loot payouts represent an enormous statistical variance from minimum to maximum in every zone.

While I can assure you that there is no pet, piece of gear, item set, elixir (or anything) that makes gold loot "lower" - I do think that we can do a better job of communicating active gold loot bonuses. I don't know exactly how we could accomplish this, but I will start looking into potential solutions.

Encryptions
02-28-2020, 11:39 AM
Well u know how annoying when you get in random party then someone asking you to use this pet instead of that pet..imo, this type of ppl should run in ghost party. Smh

Sent from my SM-G973F using TapatalkI will tell them they can leave if they don't like my pet choice, I haven't had people ask me to switch pets in maps ever I think. I just use magma aa on timur with hibero happy. Magma charges my aa faster reduces enemy armor and timur attack reduces enemy armor even more.

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Allset
02-29-2020, 07:42 AM
I can understand where some confusion may arise. Gold loot payouts represent an enormous statistical variance from minimum to maximum in every zone.

While I can assure you that there is no pet, piece of gear, item set, elixir (or anything) that makes gold loot "lower" - I do think that we can do a better job of communicating active gold loot bonuses. I don't know exactly how we could accomplish this, but I will start looking into potential solutions.Thx @Cinco this would be much appreciated. I've seen so many arguments started over Urban Legends of pet gl AAs including myself. But I realized STS would have fixed it so the AA would work as intended & not debuff the parties GL drop in anyway.

But as you can see in this thread there are still many who believe STS would make a pet with an AA that would hurt GL [emoji3166]

Rogue[emoji1655]

Kjeldran
03-01-2020, 01:17 AM
Maybe you can list the gold drop base range from each zone or map as a start and see if the information will be useful moving along as people try out the maps? And yes I think timur aa works fine like before when it first came out. Thanks @Cinco