2020-03-26 Content Update (272769)

[TzatOps]

+ Gear can only be changed in PvP while not in combat.
+ All non-party zones that use starting areas now only allow 60 seconds for the last person to enter after everyone else is ready.
+ Trader Klassi now sells sacks of Orc Tags.

[Geuimau]

+ Gear can only be changed in PvP while not in combat.
+ All non-party zones that use starting areas now only allow 60 seconds for the last person to enter after everyone else is ready.
+ Trader Klassi now sells sacks of Orc Tags.Oh

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[bobok]

-1

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[Salb]

Gg

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[bobok]

lol just because of cry baby endgamers, hotbars lose its purpose

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[Nissin]

+ Gear can only be changed in PvP while not in combat.
+ All non-party zones that use starting areas now only allow 60 seconds for the last person to enter after everyone else is ready.
+ Trader Klassi now sells sacks of Orc Tags.-1

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[Mehdikillerd]

Rip,now no pain no gain

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[scarysmerf]

Can you please add elite weapon recipes to varden valley vender i have yet to see anyone loot a recipe or selling them in auction.

[Atheza]

hmm ig its ok but was expecting more

[Jeuxheinze]

I came for 99M limit cap, but it wasn't..

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[Overgrown]

it's just right, it's not sunday everyday.

[Ilove_Poopoo]

-1

A handful of players bought off loadouts solely to switch gears in Pvp.

The fact that we can't do this while in combat is disappointing. This now will disable us to strategize via switching gears during a clash/fight, this leaves us bland, lack of combos and mechanics.

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[bobok]

The game only values ppl in endgame, yea

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[bobok]

-1

A handful of players bought off loadouts solely to switch gears in Pvp.

The fact that we can't do this while in combat is disappointing. This now will disable us to strategize via switching gears during a clash/fight, this leaves us bland, lack of combos and mechanics.

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[Gnarsito]

-1 rip pvp for mages and wars Good Job sts

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[Vendelta]

big -1 lmao who ahd the idea with those hotbars in pvp
that will make it even more inactive
rip war's, rip mages rip op ss, rip glint set... xD

[Gnarsito]

If pvp endgame now is some active, you all literally kill it, GG

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[Polosam]

big -1 lmao who ahd the idea with those hotbars in pvp
that will make it even more inactive
rip war's, rip mages rip op ss, rip glint set... xDTrue lol. Didn't think about glint set

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[Xyv.io]

Its good tanks wont abuse the hotbars now. +1billion

[Gnarsito]

Ofc Rogues will be happy with that, but mages and wars go to the corner to cry, good.luck to find clash now ;)

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[Nexior]

Rip Mags rip wars nothing more to say


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[Polosam]

Its good tanks wont abuse the hotbars now. +1billionI am a rogue but I think this update isn't fair. If you don't notice ebon aegis proc it isn't tank's fault or game's, it is your fault for not paying to much attention. (it doesn't go only for you but for the other people crying that wars were op). Additionally glint set will be useless as none will use it because they will be one hit by rogues . Also this update will effect rogues too as they won't be able to change between speed set and arcane set.

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[iybenergie]

lol just because of cry baby endgamers, hotbars lose its purpose

Sent from my SM-A520F using TapatalkYou the one crying and making a post ab it lmao hotbars for pve anyway

[Polosam]

I am a rogue but I think this update isn't fair. If you don't notice ebon aegis proc it isn't tank's fault or game's, it is your fault for not paying to much attention. (it doesn't go only for you but for the other people crying that wars were op). Additionally glint set will be useless as none will use it because they will be one hit by rogues . Also this update will effect rogues too as they won't be able to change between speed set and arcane set.

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[alonehope]

-1 this is totally not fine u all was going fix PVP and but ruined tysm
...

[Dopein]

Now you made PvP even worse lmfao good job developers

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[alonehope]

ty for more ppls who u guys made to leave the game for new PVP :)

[Loloo]

-1 completly bull**** better add it on pve 6ones

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[Polosam]

Nerfing some of the weapons on PvP would be a much wiser move in my opinion

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[Trixsters]

+1 ty for update

[Menace]

+1

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[Dopein]

Those ppl who never played pvp, thinks that update is ok lol what a braindeads

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[Killerjam]

+1


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[Menace]

I'm a pvp player actually, a mage. And this is fine imo, players can no longer abuse to hot bars to stack procs.

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[Darkoptiic]

+11

Best thing sts has done for pvp so far because itÂ’ll give a chance for new players to experience and enjoy pvp without having to spend millions on different sets. I really believe this will make pvp more active. Thank you sts!

[Mythocrisis]

They will do something better for pvp like the honor system.
This is probably a change leading to balance in that..so can't wait.!

[Leiys]

+1 ty for update!!

[Kennytheripper]

-1 and lets not let PVE players talk on PVP players behalf once again. I have no problem with hotbars not working but why isn’t my equipments loadout working like old school pvp? Not switching sets at all during combat might kill pvp more than it is dead already. Pvp was just starting to become active and we get an update like this.


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[Harrypotterqq]

+1 nice update!

[criticalis]

+1 dont cry monkeys

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[devilMors]

Pvp should be more based on skill not gear. Preventing switching gears favors skill based pvp.
A great update!

[Perceval]

+1 dry your eyes mate

[matthew (flash)]

+11111111 good XD

[Deaziyca]

Pvp was already dead, now it's buried 6ft deep

[Polosam]

Pvp should be more based on skill not gear. Preventing switching gears favors skill based pvp.
A great update!Knowing when to change a set aquires some skill too

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[Killerjam]

Knowing when to change a set aquires some skill too

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Not much


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[alepa]

Dear STS!

+ Gear can only be changed in PvP while not in combat.

that is best idea ever !!! maybe its also time to change in pve to?? warriors has sooo many weapon proc combos that this game is total unfair...

look example elite valley...
188579

[Polosam]

Dear STS!

+ Gear can only be changed in PvP while not in combat.

that is best idea ever !!! maybe its also time to change in pve to?? warriors has sooo many weapon proc combos that this game is total unfair...

look example elite valley...
188579Lol

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[Polosam]

Dear STS!

+ Gear can only be changed in PvP while not in combat.

that is best idea ever !!! maybe its also time to change in pve to?? warriors has sooo many weapon proc combos that this game is total unfair...

look example elite valley...
188579Someone is a bit jealous I see

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[Tsuchii]

Yikes. -1.

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[Darkoptiic]

Idk why people mad. Update is amazing. Pvp will be much more balanced

[Polosam]

^ Was replying to @polosam btwOk...

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[alonehope]

-1 and lets not let PVE players talk on PVP players behalf once again. I have no problem with hotbars not working but why isn’t my equipments loadout working like old school pvp? Not switching sets at all during combat might kill pvp more than it is dead already. Pvp was just starting to become active and we get an update like this.


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that's the point we all tried hard to be active that PVP endgame and they just show us they don't want we have fun at all TYSM #STS

[alonehope]

Not much


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go play some warrior who knows (SKILL) glint set is needed for PVP or play maybe mage who needs to stack up and changeset much during a fight then come and talk ... rog=aim dash (one set)

[alonehope]

Dear STS!

+ Gear can only be changed in PvP while not in combat.

that is best idea ever !!! maybe its also time to change in pve to?? warriors has sooo many weapon proc combos that this game is total unfair...

look example elite valley...
188579

he has right can spend like whole his life in-game and gear and on testing all of the kind of combos I guess he definitely in the right place if u know him...
and know what kind of items he has

[Encryptions]

We spend tons of gold to be op and now in pvp we are useless classes. Only rog dominates pvp once again, crying *** holes who don't know how to pvp or pve who just want to ruin the game.

War/mage in pvp is trash, rogs have 13k+hp 9k armor and 7k dmg. My stats aren't even that high and I spent about 270m on armors.

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[alonehope]

Ok thats your personal opinion. The problem with the proc and hotbars is that the proc is luck based. The rogue can already be attacking the tank and the proc can pop up with no warning. No way to account for that you can’t “pay attention”. Glint set being 1 hit by rogue is good, it is broken and should have consequences when using. Maybe the tank should “pay attention” and not glint while being targeted by dps. The rogue not being able to switch is a good thing. Choose arc or speed, there might be some people who want to pvp but can’t afford both, and they both have their pros and cons.

ur not even tried pvp and came here to talk ...
one set is enough and all u need is speed set as rog but ...
u saying war need have payback when using glint take the right decision when using or when don't use so that means u did not ever come PVP so don't talk about it :)
if it would change when u was not in fight or sth was fine and also glint would get useful again but u cant use it for while after doing annnny kind of attack/skill / taking damage
or at last only when the war does not damage they should able to change :)
go try some class or ask ur friends then come and say all of this

[Encryptions]

Dear STS!

+ Gear can only be changed in PvP while not in combat.

that is best idea ever !!! maybe its also time to change in pve to?? warriors has sooo many weapon proc combos that this game is total unfair...

look example elite valley...
188579

How about you try to play the game?
It is super hard to beat waves as war, you have to have luck and intelligence with many strategies in order to keep things aligned up so you can pass waves. It costs us over 500mil in armors just to do op damage, we have to use 6+ different loadouts so we can build damage.
Rogues just need 2-3 layouts.

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[HarvyGamer]

HowToKillDyingPVP.mp3 :) -1
#Uajinko

[HarvyGamer]

I bet, that you play as a Mage.
STS forgot that MAGE exists at level 56.
Totally useless character in game. But we just have to wait, if they make MAGE at least a lil bit Strong.



Stop attacking to my country boy Marroos! :- D

[Iccyprincess]

For real -100000

[Encryptions]

Dear STS!

+ Gear can only be changed in PvP while not in combat.

that is best idea ever !!! maybe its also time to change in pve to?? warriors has sooo many weapon proc combos that this game is total unfair...

look example elite valley...
188579Sorry to the devs for me posting alot.
No option to edit on these.


Just to add to my other post; you cropped a picture of the #1 war solo which is Marroos AKA <most op war in the game.> You did not show the other spots where every other war has under 100k pts, you are jealous. What do you expect? Marroos spends hours finding strategies for war, in swamp temple me and him spent days finding strategies that would work and it was hard. You have to have a brain to be able to achieve things...

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[HarvyGamer]

+1 Encryptions.
Warrior has one of the LOWEST PRICES of Items.
BUT if you want to be good Warrior, here it comes.
To be OP Warrior you must:
- Buy Really, REALLY expensive items with good Awaken
OR
- Do the Awaken by myself. And everybody, who been awaking something knows, that it isn't EASY to make a really good awaken.

[Darkoptiic]

We spend tons of gold to be op and now in pvp we are useless classes. Only rog dominates pvp once again, crying *** holes who don't know how to pvp or pve who just want to ruin the game.

War/mage in pvp is trash, rogs have 13k+hp 9k armor and 7k dmg. My stats aren't even that high and I spent about 270m on armors.

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Have you even tried to play PvP recently??? Mages are really powerful in clashes and tanks will never be useless in Pvp. People like you want a single class to rule the entire game....... Tanks were never meant to have high dps/dmg and Rogues were never meant to have high armor/health. Each class has its own purpose you can’t expect an all in one class. If you want high dps/dmg switch to Rogue please. Also, tanks are already dominant in PvE. What more do you want?

[Polosam]

Have you even tried to play PvP recently??? Mages are really powerful in clashes and tanks will never be useless in Pvp. People like you want a single class to rule the entire game....... Tanks were never meant to have high dps/dmg and Rogues were never meant to have high armor/health. Each class has its own purpose you can’t expect an all in one class. If you want high dps/dmg switch to Rogue please. Also, tanks are already dominant in PvE. What more do you want?Maybe rogues were never meant to be tanky and have high armor/hp but they do have. I know rogues who have 9.5k armor +

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[Kystone]

Have you even tried to play PvP recently??? Mages are really powerful in clashes and tanks will never be useless in Pvp. People like you want a single class to rule the entire game....... Tanks were never meant to have high dps/dmg and Rogues were never meant to have high armor/health. Each class has its own purpose you can’t expect an all in one class. If you want high dps/dmg switch to Rogue please. Also, tanks are already dominant in PvE. What more do you want?
By this logic, why aren't rogues being nerfed? We can't have dmg but they can have health and armor?

[Darkoptiic]

Maybe rogues were never meant to be tanky and have high armor/hp but they do have. I know rogues who have 9.5k armor +

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They end up having lower than average damage though. It’s a trade-off...........

[TheBlairWitch]

Not pvp player here , so i dont get any of this. But looks like its bad

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[Darkoptiic]

By this logic, why aren't rogues being nerfed? We can't have dmg but they can have health and armor?

Lol ok then form a 4 rog team and play against a 2 tank 1 mage 1 rog team. If you were right and rogues were that dominant, the 4 rog team should win. Prove me wrong :)

[Overgrown]

Lol ok then form a 4 rog team and play against a 2 tank 1 mage 1 rog team. If you were right and rogues were that dominant, the 4 rog team should win. Prove me wrong :)Tried it, 4 rogs were farmed lol.

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[Polosam]

Tried it, 4 rogs were farmed lol.

Sent from my CPH1803 using TapatalkYeah cause rogues don't have a way to prevent death meanwhile war has jugg and mage shield

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[Overgrown]

People who mostly complain really don't know how to play pvp, all relay on gears.

Honestly, warrior is a bad match up vs rogue 1v1, imagine just emptying rogue's mana and the rogue is a dead meat already. With Horn with invulnerability, juggernaut and Vengful Blood (unlimited mana = unlimited horn)

Mage- have the skills also to fight a rogue.

Its about strategy and timing bois, stop overestimating rogue, and playing that your classes we're inferiors its how you play.

PS. Have already experienced all classes, pm me if you want to see mastery flags.

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[bobok]

as if endgame pvp is a cheap bracket, endgame is not the only bracket played by that gameplay.

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[Premo]

Nice this is a balance update thanks sts

[sergio.calma]

Sounds good.season 5 comeback no switching !!!

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[crossfire]

Pvp is DEAD!!! Favor for rogs again -1trillions

[|Ares|]

This is the best thing regarding PvP I've witnessed since long time.
+1

[angeloiloveyou]

Last time they say rogue is always crying, jealous. But now whos complaining?

[alonehope]

well, we never got that how is so rouge is under-eye too much and not mage and war ...
they say we can't do attack with hight DPS give us sth like mage combo on ultimate so -> here we give u all armor proc and dagger proc and if u ult in this u GG
and next, they cry all caz they only do some routine thing in all map also PVP well, add some timing too ->aim and dash... and then they say it's unfair they using 3 kinds of the set and we can't kill them all ... so -> here no more set change go ahead rouge kill them all now :) they only have one set GL
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LETS CHANGE NAME OF THE GAME INTO :
"ROUGE LEGENDS"
THEN ITS MAKE MORE SENSE
PVP dead= fun is overall is grinding and spending plat if it's not true pls let us know how so ...

[alonehope]

as we all saw all of +1 fallow was from PVP player who playing in the low cap that only needs 1 set for sure or ROUGES ...
AND others all -1
if u guys don't want to give dem about any of our suggestions or offer then why u all keep us in touch? just change it and force us to play ...
let's see all facts pls :)
and yes I start to play PVP caz kinda was bored from PvE and PVP was fun and could be fun but where we all free t do whatever we want to do not force thing I will be fine but caz I can just back to PvE NP...
but those who only do PVP: BYE, GG, ITS OVER, IM DONE, WELL DONE STS , TY FOR CLOSE PVP FOR GOODS & lot more
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its just game let us have fun

[alonehope]

sry for my low English too caz its not my main language and don't have someone to sit and translate all of my talks.
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take look at all game, not part of it
TYSM

[Menace]

Before hot bars were a thing I didn't see anyone suggest the idea of being able to quickly swap weapons mid-fight to activate multiple procs.

Wanna know why? Because its stupid.

Clearly its not that important in PvP and the only people complaining now are the ones who abused it to get the upper hand.

To my fellow PvP players, you survived all these years without this featured so you can survive without it now.

Stop complaining.

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[alonehope]

lets back to cap 46 were glint just got op ppl was switching to glint set "DURING FIGHT" with hand go into inventory and use one of the set they apply in inventory and then after Hotbar came out everyone also rouges -> let's add some pet switch in PVP so we can change pet or we can change to bow or sth...
and now again they asking ok ok war and the mage will be a lot more op this how and we won't be able to kill them anymore back us in that time they had to no change ...
if u guys saying the back school we were able changeset during fight even before Hotbar.
whats wrong with u all idk...
game force all make rog -> super expensive item -> they will go buy more plat for more item from locks in store -> we will be more and more rich let's do this HAHAHAHAH
its a game or business app?
a lot of players here only for fun not for life.
let's see from everyone eye
tnx

[Shimada]

Wow. what a crap to not be able to switch gear while pvp. RIP pvp strategy.

-1

[angeloiloveyou]

+1 x10000000 good update nice sts thanks

[alonehope]

+1 x10000000 good update nice sts thanks

hello, another rouge or PvE player :)

[criticalis]

Knowing when to change a set aquires some skill too

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[criticalis]

as we all saw all of +1 fallow was from PVP player who playing in the low cap that only needs 1 set for sure or ROUGES ...
AND others all -1
if u guys don't want to give dem about any of our suggestions or offer then why u all keep us in touch? just change it and force us to play ...
let's see all facts pls :)
and yes I start to play PVP caz kinda was bored from PvE and PVP was fun and could be fun but where we all free t do whatever we want to do not force thing I will be fine but caz I can just back to PvE NP...
but those who only do PVP: BYE, GG, ITS OVER, IM DONE, WELL DONE STS , TY FOR CLOSE PVP FOR GOODS & lot more
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its just game let us have funU r trash man this will make pvp just more balanced

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[Regifter]

So this was the update for pvp? Aight buh-bye goodluck guys!

[Darkoptiic]

Wow. what a crap to not be able to switch gear while pvp. RIP pvp strategy.

-1

Lol stacking procs is a strategy? What a joke

[HimSug]

Lol stacking procs is a strategy? What a joke

You're the joke here. hotbar is there for a reason , removing it limits the players capability. why dont you ask the developer to put the update in testing first before putting it in production so they will know the players idea.

[Raziast]

Being a tank, i am still happy with this update. Ty xD

[Grimcry]

-1 This removes the use of hotbars and different gear sets to use in pvp

[yuri andreas]

Nice update
Now all ppl Can play pvp
+1

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[alepa]

How about you try to play the game?
It is super hard to beat waves as war, you have to have luck and intelligence with many strategies in order to keep things aligned up so you can pass waves. It costs us over 500mil in armors just to do op damage, we have to use 6+ different loadouts so we can build damage.
Rogues just need 2-3 layouts.

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For real... look the elit valley lb its totaly unfair and only becouse other clas dont have this kind weapen procs.. warrior has with procs best armor, best healt and best damage... do u really thinks its fair vs other clas???

glin agies is lvl 41 weapen..and sts if u reduce dragon staff proc, flame staff proc why u not reduce glin agies proc to???

[Encryptions]

For real... look the elit valley lb its totaly unfair and only becouse other clas dont have this kind weapen procs.. warrior has with procs best armor, best healt and best damage... do u really thinks its fair vs other clas???

glin agies is lvl 41 weapen..and sts if u reduce dragon staff proc, flame staff proc why u not reduce glin agies proc to???Unfair? Its not like the solo lb is judged overall, each class has their own lb section. If it was overall then it really wouldn't be fair. Also nerf glint aegis??!?! You do realize that weapon proc only hits enemies for 200damage per proc, if they nerf it Again; then jewel farming with war will be godly.

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[sergio.calma]

Iyak pa

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[alepa]

How about you try to play the game?
It is super hard to beat waves as war, you have to have luck and intelligence with many strategies in order to keep things aligned up so you can pass waves. It costs us over 500mil in armors just to do op damage, we have to use 6+ different loadouts so we can build damage.
Rogues just need 2-3 layouts.

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and also!!!! ''we are speculate'' why activity drop, why not new players... 500mil+ for new players sound like impossible idea... and old players quit this game cos if they play many years on one class and now the other class is totally unfair like warriors is atm that will keep happening.. i think this game should be fair for everyone!!!!!! dear sts plz do somthing!!!!

[Faotblack]

Being a tank, i am still happy with this update. Ty xD

*sighs* nab

[alepa]

Unfair? Its not like the solo lb is judged overall, each class has their own lb section. If it was overall then it really wouldn't be fair. Also nerf glint aegis??!?! You do realize that weapon proc only hits enemies for 200damage per proc, if they nerf it Again; then jewel farming with war will be godly.

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200 damage dont lol lie!!!! when u proc ur skull sword then proc ebon agies/ dozer agies then swap on glinston agies the damage not 200.... for real!!!! do u think we are idiots?!?! lol

[Encryptions]

200 damage dont lol lie!!!! when u proc ur skull sword then proc ebon agies/ dozer agies then swap on glinston agies the damage not 200.... for real!!!! do u think we are idiots?!?! lolWant me to record a video?

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[shadowronn]

We spend tons of gold to be op and now in pvp we are useless classes. Only rog dominates pvp once again, crying *** holes who don't know how to pvp or pve who just want to ruin the game.

War/mage in pvp is trash, rogs have 13k+hp 9k armor and 7k dmg. My stats aren't even that high and I spent about 270m on armors.

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Could you direct me to those threads where the "rogues" complained? I think I've missed them for some reason? I haven't seen such a thread. If not you, could anyone else? I don't think I should be missing such big things on the forums :(

[anacebela]

For real... look the elit valley lb its totaly unfair and only becouse other clas dont have this kind weapen procs.. warrior has with procs best armor, best healt and best damage... do u really thinks its fair vs other clas???

glin agies is lvl 41 weapen..and sts if u reduce dragon staff proc, flame staff proc why u not reduce glin agies proc to???

+100 xD

im top on on rogues class at elite valley and i can do solo way 13 with best of the best best rogues gears... warriors do solo way 25+ with no problem... i think its unfair and i spend more then 500mil on it xDD

[anacebela]

+100 xD

im top on on rogues class at elite valley and i can do solo way 13 with best of the best best rogues gears... warriors do solo way 25+ with no problem... i think its unfair and i spend more then 500mil on it xDD

''top 1 lol cant ever wright , soo confuse :D haha

[Encryptions]

Could you direct me to those threads where the "rogues" complained? I think I've missed them for some reason? I haven't seen such a thread. If not you, could anyone else? I don't think I should be missing such big things on the forums :(
https://www.spacetimestudios.com/showthread.php?483879-Glint-aegis-immo-staff-terror-blade&highlight=nerf
https://www.spacetimestudios.com/showthread.php?480358-Please-sts-nerfed-skull-dozer-in-pvp-active-super-fast-proc-is-not-compensated&highlight=nerf
https://www.spacetimestudios.com/showthread.php?453198-Nerf-that-aegis-part-two&highlight=nerf
https://www.spacetimestudios.com/showthread.php?460575-hey-devs&highlight=nerf
https://www.spacetimestudios.com/showthread.php?452788-Nerf-that-aegis-!!&highlight=nerf
https://www.spacetimestudios.com/showthread.php?446734-There-has-been-some-controversy-about-the-nerfing-of-ebons&highlight=nerf
https://www.spacetimestudios.com/showthread.php?425473-weapon-nerfs&highlight=nerf
https://www.spacetimestudios.com/showthread.php?486823-Proc-effect-and-buff-staying-after-weapon-has-been-switched
After looking through about 400 threads; I only see threads made by ROGUES to nerf wars, there are many more but what I did not find was 1 thread about nerfing rogues.

[alepa]

Want me to record a video?

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i have seen it on my eyes!!! xD all i want that sts make this game fair for all class in pvp AND in PVE to!!! cos 0,5% ppl play in pvp and 99,5% play pve!

[anacebela]

https://www.spacetimestudios.com/showthread.php?483879-Glint-aegis-immo-staff-terror-blade&highlight=nerf
https://www.spacetimestudios.com/showthread.php?480358-Please-sts-nerfed-skull-dozer-in-pvp-active-super-fast-proc-is-not-compensated&highlight=nerf
https://www.spacetimestudios.com/showthread.php?453198-Nerf-that-aegis-part-two&highlight=nerf
https://www.spacetimestudios.com/showthread.php?460575-hey-devs&highlight=nerf
https://www.spacetimestudios.com/showthread.php?452788-Nerf-that-aegis-!!&highlight=nerf
https://www.spacetimestudios.com/showthread.php?446734-There-has-been-some-controversy-about-the-nerfing-of-ebons&highlight=nerf
https://www.spacetimestudios.com/showthread.php?425473-weapon-nerfs&highlight=nerf
https://www.spacetimestudios.com/showthread.php?486823-Proc-effect-and-buff-staying-after-weapon-has-been-switched
After looking through about 400 threads; I only see threads made by ROGUES to nerf wars, there are many more but what I did not find was 1 thread about nerfing rogues.

may i ask :hopelessness: i have spend more then 500 mil on my gears and im top 1 in elite valley and i cant past ever wave 13... how u would like Nerf me more ? and warriors do eazy wave 25+ xDDD
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[anacebela]

i have seen it on my eyes!!! xD all i want that sts make this game fair for all class in pvp AND in PVE to!!! cos 0,5% ppl play in pvp and 99,5% play pve!

+100

i dont do pvp atm so i dont know/care abaut it, but that pve is unfair i agree!!

[anacebela]

and also!!!! ''we are speculate'' why activity drop, why not new players... 500mil+ for new players sound like impossible idea... and old players quit this game cos if they play many years on one class and now the other class is totally unfair like warriors is atm that will keep happening.. i think this game should be fair for everyone!!!!!! dear sts plz do somthing!!!!

i agree with that post. That gears cant cost 500+ mils or we wont have soon any new players here...

[Overgrown]

Before hot bars were a thing I didn't see anyone suggest the idea of being able to quickly swap weapons mid-fight to activate multiple procs.

Wanna know why? Because its stupid.

Clearly its not that important in PvP and the only people complaining now are the ones who abused it to get the upper hand.

To my fellow PvP players, you survived all these years without this featured so you can survive without it now.

Stop complaining.

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[Overgrown]

Let me slap you guys what your char role is.

Rogue- Damage
Warrior- Tanking
Mage- Control and support

You're all welcome, you chose those characters go rogue if you want to deal damage.



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[Harsh Singh]

I can see that developers are being dumb again. Not gonna be rude but that's a fact. Switching from going into inventory is a skill. Some might complain that pc players can't do it but that's a lie. And besides hotbars and awakening in PvP should be removed. But they won't do that cuz awakening gets them lots of money. What's the point of doing it "while in combat". When you're clashing none is gonna let you stay afk in corner for 10 secs so that you can just switch ur gears lol. It's common sense

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[Harsh Singh]

i have seen it on my eyes!!! xD all i want that sts make this game fair for all class in pvp AND in PVE to!!! cos 0,5% ppl play in pvp and 99,5% play pve!Maybe you don't know it but PvP died because everything that's happened LoL there are no PvP banners no tournament so why will anyone do PvP??!! And now this thing lol I'm sure you weren't at 41 because at that time PvP was balanced and everyone knew their role. Awakening broke the PvP and now hotbars too. Back then you could play with legendary gears maxed out stuff weren't needed

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[Lookupnabs]

Remove all the hotbars even in pve so that gold farmers dont kill the economy...

[Harsh Singh]

Remove all the hotbars even in pve so that gold farmers dont kill the economy...Make it "when not in combat" XD LOL

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[ToyStory1]

How about you try to play the game?
It is super hard to beat waves as war, you have to have luck and intelligence with many strategies in order to keep things aligned up so you can pass waves. It costs us over 500mil in armors just to do op damage, we have to use 6+ different loadouts so we can build damage.
Rogues just need 2-3 layouts.

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How about you try to play the game?
It is super hard to beat waves as war, you have to have luck and intelligence with many strategies in order to keep things aligned up so you can pass waves. It costs us over 500mil in armors just to do op damage, we have to use 6+ different loadouts so we can build damage.
Rogues just need 2-3 layouts.

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The thing is there are some mages who spent way more on good gears and yet the class top scorer only has 22k which is a far cry compare to the 220k from the Warriors class. It has nothing to do with intelligence... it clearly has something to do with the procs warriors are able incite.

[Marosok]

My beloved rogues, can you enjoy your copy of this game without complaints literally every week? I think you can do this. Your bulletproof statements about "tank is for tanking" have gaps for 95% of the PvE content. Can we, warriors, play and enjoy our copy of this game in PvE?

[Basilisk]

+1

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[alonehope]

the warrior who can do 200k pts is the best war in-game why u all crying?
and did u see any mage came here when most of them barely will pass wave 5?

and u saying teamwork and yes its teamwork but rog want all of the teamwork points like we need do solo all mobs ( mage job mostly ) we need be a tank and don't die ( war job mostly) and ofc we should get down boss so fast ( only rog job )
and when Skratch gun came out u guys cry caz mage can solo bosses now without any rog and u all cry again ...
the war got op proc and ult to do damage and u guys cry again ...
whats wrong with u all al of suggestion post in forum is about nerfing war / mage (class or weapons) and when u all saw we come say ok we don't like this huge damage of rouge lets nerf them too caz we can see what is useful for a better run as a team but u all rouges are selfish and u all know it too u guys want everything for yourself and others ???
sure they can play they can help us get more kill in PVP/PvE they should help us do more damage on bosses and farm more they can be specter pf the game when we have fun this is RPG game that everyone should have a big part of it and should do their job on the best mood and u guys always want to be on top of it and get all of the joy and fun and we get suffer over, over and over again...

if all come play rouge game will die forever go try other classes then see what is balance

[anacebela]

My beloved rogues, can you enjoy your copy of this game without complaints literally every week? I think you can do this. Your bulletproof statements about "tank is for tanking" have gaps for 95% of the PvE content. Can we, warriors, play and enjoy our copy of this game in PvE?

dear warriors! dont u think that highest armor, highest health and highest damage is lil to much for one class ? just asking xDDD

[anacebela]

the warrior who can do 200k pts is the best war in-game why u all crying?
and did u see any mage came here when most of them barely will pass wave 5?

and u saying teamwork and yes its teamwork but rog want all of the teamwork points like we need do solo all mobs ( mage job mostly ) we need be a tank and don't die ( war job mostly) and ofc we should get down boss so fast ( only rog job )
and when Skratch gun came out u guys cry caz mage can solo bosses now without any rog and u all cry again ...
the war got op proc and ult to do damage and u guys cry again ...
whats wrong with u all al of suggestion post in forum is about nerfing war / mage (class or weapons) and when u all saw we come say ok we don't like this huge damage of rouge lets nerf them too caz we can see what is useful for a better run as a team but u all rouges are selfish and u all know it too u guys want everything for yourself and others ???
sure they can play they can help us get more kill in PVP/PvE they should help us do more damage on bosses and farm more they can be specter pf the game when we have fun this is RPG game that everyone should have a big part of it and should do their job on the best mood and u guys always want to be on top of it and get all of the joy and fun and we get suffer over, over and over again...

if all come play rouge game will die forever go try other classes then see what is balance

im best rogue in the game , i can do 40k points, u are one of the best mage in the game can u do ever 20k solo ?! xD and thats not only in solo 95% of grup party top list is warriors i think its lil unfair cos we dont have that kind weapon procs.. i already spend 500+ mil on my rogue gears and i dont wana spend another 500 mil for warrior gears just because there is unbalance atm...

[anacebela]

dear warriors! dont u think that highest armor, highest health and highest damage is lil to much for one class ? just asking xDDD

dont understand me wrong, im happy that sts give warriors damage, but if u give warriors damage u have the cut armor and health... like it is on mages/rogues we dont have armor or health but we have damage simple... one class just cant have all 3...

[Darkoptiic]

You're the joke here. hotbar is there for a reason , removing it limits the players capability. why dont you ask the developer to put the update in testing first before putting it in production so they will know the players idea.

From what I see, the majority love this update. The only hate comments I see on this post are from the people with 0 experience/skill crying and crying continuously.

[HarvyGamer]

+1 Marosok, +1 Alonehope. | There's literally not even 1 Mage talking about Warriors in Gates LB.

[Marosok]

My point of view on PvE complaint related to warrior class (from, i hope, experienced warrior)


dear warriors! dont u think that highest armor, highest health and highest damage is lil to much for one class ? just asking xDDD

You can´t be serious lady/sir. Do you want some facts about PvE from warrior perspective? I will just share 2 of my replies.


i have seen it on my eyes!!! xD all i want that sts make this game fair for all class in pvp AND in PVE to!!! cos 0,5% ppl play in pvp and 99,5% play pve!
Fair for all classes? Where were you for last year and a half? I don´t see any other class, than rogues dominating Hydra/Orrick LB (with 1 mage now). Gosh, i can´t even charge my axe skill within 3 seconds (Orrick lb time). Do you see tanks create threads about it. Those are 2 maps. Gates are single map, where warrior is more viable and you seem are loosing it a little bit more than is healthy. Did i just say word warrior in combination with more viable in Gates? Sorry, i meant only warrior, who spend over 100mil for skull weapon, top gear and awaken -this warrior is viable in group gates, Deep Marsh, literally everywhere in PvE, but still can´t do big things, while pink geared rogue with ebon bow and bd can do just fine on every map. Does this sound fair to you? Let´s continue. Explain to me, please, how total destruction of one class (warrior) will help you in PvE? Yes, i am telling destruction, because all maps (except gates) are nothing else than best place to phew phew spam skills tactic invented by rogues. Is it bothering you to have more options for faster PvE maps? So behind this all "fair pve for everyone" how many PvE aspects you took in consideration other than "i want be best again" ? Do you think warriors core mechanisms pull/taunt/heal are needed on any map except Gates? Is it fair to have maps, where 1 class "main role =tanking= like many of you like to say" is absolutely irrelevant? Let´s continue and talk about last expansion. I played both, top geared warrior and legendary geared rogue. Which one class you think was and is still better on fester expansion maps? All fester maps (last cap hardest content) were dominated by 4x rogue parties and i have not seen anyone complain about it as frequently, as some do now about warriors. Your "fair PvE for all classes" will solve nothing, but destroy warrior class completely for endgame PvE and warriors like me, who spent ridiculous amount of gold collected by many years of playing this game. Did you ever try play as an warrior with ebon sword in Deep Marsh and as an legendary geared rogue with ebon bow there? This was the meta of last expansion, and once again, i have not seen any complaint from warriors. Well, you can do it now, lets share your findings and tell us more about fair PvE for all classes.
I am not sure if you know this, but i will ask: Are you aware of fact, that there is SOLO Gates LB for each class, and you can´t end up on warrior solo LB, when you are other class user? You think it is all about using mighty multi proc you saw? Well, all i can say is buy those weapons and go try solo as an warrior, feel free to share your result/ your LB position here with me. It is more about using environment in your benefit and know when to dodge = use head one might say. 9/10 DPS class i play with in group Gates just doing phew phew skills tactic, moving in front of spider/s when spiders do their red zone attack and after IK they are curious why that happened, while simple move to the left/right would save them. One harder map (running for how long? 3 months? Lb Gates not even month) in 2 years and some rogues can´t accept the fact, that there exist another class, that is good for PvE. And that "other class" must buy everything in this game just to keep up with rogue with duggar bow. To be clear, it is completely not possible to do group Gates LB without 1-2 good rogues.
You want know what was really unfair? Playing last lvl cap endgame map (Deep Marsh), where 4x average rogues with legendary gear + ebon bow were farming deep within 10 minutes, while best geared wars were struggling to end the map in 20 minutes +. Amount of rejects from rogues to party was too high even for me. You all rogues want fair pve for everyone, while last lvl cap (71) was designed for your class, even for undergeared ones, because minions and bosses were not strong enough for you, so warrior, that can protect you was not needed. Warrior class struggled from summer 2018 till winter 2019 in PvE (Deep Marsh/Orrick/Hydra,Mogera Lair, Frontier, Greensap Farm, Old Gates - endgame content) and nobody cried, 0 rogues cared. Introduction of skull weapons finally made warriors viable for PvE and now you are talking about "fair PvE", for real ?... All i can see/ read here is whine of some greedy users, who are unhappy, when they don´t shine (while it is not even truth, because rogues are still best class for 99% PvE content).

may i ask :hopelessness: i have spend more then 500 mil on my gears and im top 1 in elite valley and i cant past ever wave 13... how u would like Nerf me more ? and warriors do eazy wave 25+ xDDD
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Warriors do solo wave 25+ easy? Do you even read, what you write? I don´t see any other warrior go above wave 25 in solo gates. 500mil? So this is quality measurement for you? Guess what, i spent much more gold on my gear even before skull weapons were introduced and my class was total trash everywhere in PvE. Am i complaining about your class asking to nerf your class for PvE ond daily basis, because i cant be on Orrick/Hydra LB? Are warriors complaining how ridiculously strong aimed shot with bd is in PvE on bosses? I repeat myself from the case above, when you think it is all about multi proc and "easy do wave 25", feel free to go and try it. Share your result "so called best rogue".





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I don´t understand, why warrior class lie in guts of rogues. Aren´t you happy for other classes, when they really can do something on PvE map? Or you are okey with idea, that single warrior with top gear/ top awaken should fight single minion for 10 seconds and leave map in neverending boss fight. Will this make you happy again? Allright, i don´t understand this cry and i don´t want continue in this charade. Warriors will be piece of trash in PvE = read slow snails, when you achieve, what you all are complaining about, while rogues will remain unharmed, because with single arcane bow can do everything, while warrior without 2 or more procs is snail in endgame PvE.

As i said in sentences above, i am done with this battle, this one is OP, this one need nerf. When STS development team decide something need change, they will do it, don´t worry.

Why can´t all AL players just enjoy, what STS do for us everyday. I know, we are PEOPLE...
Have a nice day and smile!

[Premo]

dont understand me wrong, im happy that sts give warriors damage, but if u give warriors damage u have the cut armor and health... like it is on mages/rogues we dont have armor or health but we have damage simple... one class just cant have all 3...

+1 That is the balance, warior have it all, this is the example if rogue request our ultimate aim change like rage x5 dex do you think warior will be happy? Or our razor shield will be 100% dodge All normal and skill attack or our rasor shield have a lifesteal do you think war will be happy? If that happen we can do solo in elite red portal, sory for my bad english

[anacebela]

My point of view on PvE complaint related to warrior class (from, i hope, experienced warrior)



You can´t be serious lady/sir. Do you want some facts about PvE from warrior perspective? I will just share 2 of my replies.


Fair for all classes? Where were you for last year and a half? I don´t see any other class, than rogues dominating Hydra/Orrick LB (with 1 mage now). Gosh, i can´t even charge my axe skill within 3 seconds (Orrick lb time). Do you see tanks create threads about it. Those are 2 maps. Gates are single map, where warrior is more viable and you seem are loosing it a little bit more than is healthy. Did i just say word warrior in combination with more viable in Gates? Sorry, i meant only warrior, who spend over 100mil for skull weapon, top gear and awaken -this warrior is viable in group gates, Deep Marsh, literally everywhere in PvE, but still can´t do big things, while pink geared rogue with ebon bow and bd can do just fine on every map. Does this sound fair to you? Let´s continue. Explain to me, please, how total destruction of one class (warrior) will help you in PvE? Yes, i am telling destruction, because all maps (except gates) are nothing else than best place to phew phew spam skills tactic invented by rogues. Is it bothering you to have more options for faster PvE maps? So behind this all "fair pve for everyone" how many PvE aspects you took in consideration other than "i want be best again" ? Do you think warriors core mechanisms pull/taunt/heal are needed on any map except Gates? Is it fair to have maps, where 1 class "main role =tanking= like many of you like to say" is absolutely irrelevant? Let´s continue and talk about last expansion. I played both, top geared warrior and legendary geared rogue. Which one class you think was and is still better on fester expansion maps? All fester maps (last cap hardest content) were dominated by 4x rogue parties and i have not seen anyone complain about it as frequently, as some do now about warriors. Your "fair PvE for all classes" will solve nothing, but destroy warrior class completely for endgame PvE and warriors like me, who spent ridiculous amount of gold collected by many years of playing this game. Did you ever try play as an warrior with ebon sword in Deep Marsh and as an legendary geared rogue with ebon bow there? This was the meta of last expansion, and once again, i have not seen any complaint from warriors. Well, you can do it now, lets share your findings and tell us more about fair PvE for all classes.
I am not sure if you know this, but i will ask: Are you aware of fact, that there is SOLO Gates LB for each class, and you can´t end up on warrior solo LB, when you are other class user? You think it is all about using mighty multi proc you saw? Well, all i can say is buy those weapons and go try solo as an warrior, feel free to share your result/ your LB position here with me. It is more about using environment in your benefit and know when to dodge = use head one might say. 9/10 DPS class i play with in group Gates just doing phew phew skills tactic, moving in front of spider/s when spiders do their red zone attack and after IK they are curious why that happened, while simple move to the left/right would save them. One harder map (running for how long? 3 months? Lb Gates not even month) in 2 years and some rogues can´t accept the fact, that there exist another class, that is good for PvE. And that "other class" must buy everything in this game just to keep up with rogue with duggar bow. To be clear, it is completely not possible to do group Gates LB without 1-2 good rogues.
You want know what was really unfair? Playing last lvl cap endgame map (Deep Marsh), where 4x average rogues with legendary gear + ebon bow were farming deep within 10 minutes, while best geared wars were struggling to end the map in 20 minutes +. Amount of rejects from rogues to party was too high even for me. You all rogues want fair pve for everyone, while last lvl cap (71) was designed for your class, even for undergeared ones, because minions and bosses were not strong enough for you, so warrior, that can protect you was not needed. Warrior class struggled from summer 2018 till winter 2019 in PvE (Deep Marsh/Orrick/Hydra,Mogera Lair, Frontier, Greensap Farm, Old Gates - endgame content) and nobody cried, 0 rogues cared. Introduction of skull weapons finally made warriors viable for PvE and now you are talking about "fair PvE", for real ?... All i can see/ read here is whine of some greedy users, who are unhappy, when they don´t shine (while it is not even truth, because rogues are still best class for 99% PvE content).


Warriors do solo wave 25+ easy? Do you even read, what you write? I don´t see any other warrior go above wave 25 in solo gates. 500mil? So this is quality measurement for you? Guess what, i spent much more gold on my gear even before skull weapons were introduced and my class was total trash everywhere in PvE. Am i complaining about your class asking to nerf your class for PvE ond daily basis, because i cant be on Orrick/Hydra LB? Are warriors complaining how ridiculously strong aimed shot with bd is in PvE on bosses? I repeat myself from the case above, when you think it is all about multi proc and "easy do wave 25", feel free to go and try it. Share your result "so called best rogue".





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I don´t understand, why warrior class lie in guts of rogues. Aren´t you happy for other classes, when they really can do something on PvE map? Or you are okey with idea, that single warrior with top gear/ top awaken should fight single minion for 10 seconds and leave map in neverending boss fight. Will this make you happy again? Allright, i don´t understand this cry and i don´t want continue in this charade. Warriors will be piece of trash in PvE = read slow snails, when you achieve, what you all are complaining about, while rogues will remain unharmed, because with single arcane bow can do everything, while warrior without 2 or more procs is snail in endgame PvE.

As i said in sentences above, i am done with this battle, this one is OP, this one need nerf. When STS development team decide something need change, they will do it, don´t worry.

Why can´t all AL players just enjoy, what STS do for us everyday. I know, we are PEOPLE...
Have a nice day and smile!

Marosok stop that BIG JOKE plz! hydra/oric its not the same think like vallye.. valley is the season!!! u know ur slef it is unfair this way... warriors find the gab in this game and it not should be like this... for real...

[Premo]

Simple explanation now the ultimate and dozer weap surpass the damage of any best rogue but rogue never surpass the health and armor of the best warior, i always see warior 10x damage than rogue but can any body see rogue that 25k health and 20k armor at the same time?

[Premo]

Marosok stop that BIG JOKE plz! hydra/oric its not the same think like vallye.. valley is the season!!! u know ur slef it is unfair this way... warriors find the gab in this game and it not should be like this... for real...

Dev for the sake of rogue/mage bring back the goldloot on hydra bog own map for own class

[PatD]

To all those rogue who think all warrior can solo elite gate to wave 25, i am sorry but you are sooo wrong!! only some are able to do that, i have relatively good gears and i have reach wave 11 maybe 2-3 time and it was only because my proc have activate at the right time, or else i dont even pass wave 5, so stop making assumption that all war are 100x more op than rogue this is really far from truth, the only thing you doing by keeping asking to nerf warr is to make all average warr to stop enjoying this game, so please think twice before asking something in forum

[Overgrown]

Was enlightened by some of the comments, maybe the overall game mechanics are the one really unfair, its not rogues fault if most of the LB are based on MS and BD.

Let's think of ways or just adjustments over LB and overall game experience. Which is not Movement Speed and Boss Damage Centered LB.

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[Premo]

I think missunderstanding, 4 warior party can beat wave 25 and higher but rogue i think 4 rogue can 12-13 wave because rogue is easy to die 1 hit dirrect to boss same as 4 mage party, if 2rogue 2mage i think wave 15 is hard enough,

[Overgrown]

We keep hating other classes which I find wrong now, let's suggest game mechanics that will be fair for everyone.

No more, race LB or the fastest it is obviously rogue centered.

Also, Add PvP assists(may count as pvp kills too) it is true, it is unfair for other classes.

Maybe, add Tri-class LB which will be a good community balancing.

Or maps that, requires maps that have madatory different class requirement per room maximum of 2 in same class in one room. Ex. W/W/R/M, R/R/M/W, M/M/R/W

Let's cut the hates now, let's suggest maybe better improvement in the game.



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[Faotblack]

You know warriors don't always have the rage ultimate? Btw why are you trying to kill the fun. What i see now from every thread about this, i see only drama, drama and drama. What's the matter of killing the fun? Why don't you put yourself in our place? We cannot be OP for one or two expansions? What if devs make the rogues best class in game next expansion like before? Warriors will start complaining about rogues being most OP class? NO. We were asking so many times devs to make warriors TO DO some dmg, because what's the matter of having warrior when maps are easy and you cannot die. That's why devs made us atleast doing something. If you remember in the first swamp temple event mostly rogues were in top 10. The only thing i can see now is that rogues were always complaining when it's not theirs. I can write much more, but sadly I'm busy irl and that's all i can write. Peace :)

[Ilove_Poopoo]

+1

Best thing ever

Its a good foundation of what STS plans later on in Pvp (Honor Pvp hopefully). Such as sticking to the class roles, eliminating p2w factors to isolate a skill based system.

Warrs can no longer suddenly melt others in just 2-3secs due to stacking procs.

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[Marosok]

Pathetic behaviour unkown hero:
188628

[Faotblack]

Btw anyone remember how warriors without ebon aegis were thrown away?

[Jakub Endl]

Marosok stop that BIG JOKE plz! hydra/oric its not the same think like vallye.. valley is the season!!! u know ur slef it is unfair this way... warriors find the gab in this game and it not should be like this... for real...

Dont wanna tell anything but Infested and Hydra use to be Season same as Vardan valley, it use to be best place for farming golds and one map for rogs was 10sec and now its gates so dont care it and run. Dont care warrior class if u dont play warrior. We dont care rogs so u dont care wars. Just accept that u cant reach LB #1 in solo :)
Peace

[angeloiloveyou]

Pathetic behaviour unkown hero:
188628

Marroos is not noob but hes greedy mind try to run him on random map on the event he will not wait for the others

[angeloiloveyou]

Last update there was a penalty for afk player for wasting the other energy, hope there was a penalty for wasting energy because of the greedy one like that.

[Fearrr]

dear warriors! dont u think that highest armor, highest health and highest damage is lil to much for one class ? just asking xDDD
What? Last time I checked High HP and or High Armor is part of the War class. And what War has higher Damage then Ago and Skyxe both Rogues? 3/4 Wars who put up 1m+ Points in Swamp 2020 are in mutliple positions on Elite Gates Group LB. Your sitting in 3rd place but crying about it's unfair? Are you serious right now?

[anacebela]

Dont wanna tell anything but Infested and Hydra use to be Season same as Vardan valley, it use to be best place for farming golds and one map for rogs was 10sec and now its gates so dont care it and run. Dont care warrior class if u dont play warrior. We dont care rogs so u dont care wars. Just accept that u cant reach LB #1 in solo :)
Peace

if u '' dont know'' dont say xD last season was the swamp/deep marsh and not hydra or oric.. hydra and oric is like ''shyal arena'' bonus area

[angeloiloveyou]

Reduce the damage of warior on pve because of some greedy warior who rules the event map that waste the energy of others

[Fearrr]

if u '' dont know'' dont say xD last season was the swamp/deep marsh and not hydra or oric.. hydra and oric is like ''shyal arena'' bonus area

Swamp Temple 2020! Clearly as I said 1m+ Points!

[alonehope]

im best rogue in the game , i can do 40k points, u are one of the best mage in the game can u do ever 20k solo ?! xD and thats not only in solo 95% of grup party top list is warriors i think its lil unfair cos we dont have that kind weapon procs.. i already spend 500+ mil on my rogue gears and i dont wana spend another 500 mil for warrior gears just because there is unbalance atm...

u getting the same badge that marross getting he had to do 200k pts to get u had to 40k...
who cares who is top overall ur top rouge his top war and no I'm not op mage I'm trash as fak who didn't even try that stupid drama lb
and u spend 500mil on ROUGE if u would spend same on war u would even beat marross maybe we all know rouge gear is most expensive in-game and that's u all fault its another story lets don't talk about that here but u spend 500mil and ur top rouge in-game and marross is top war in-game what's the problem?

[alonehope]

Dev for the sake of rogue/mage bring back the goldloot on hydra bog own map for own class

yes, I like this one too :D

[anacebela]

u getting the same badge that marross getting he had to do 200k pts to get u had to 40k...
who cares who is top overall ur top rouge his top war and no I'm not op mage I'm trash as fak who didn't even try that stupid drama lb
and u spend 500mil on ROUGE if u would spend same on war u would even beat marross maybe we all know rouge gear is most expensive in-game and that's u all fault its another story lets don't talk about that here but u spend 500mil and ur top rouge in-game and marross is top war in-game what's the problem?

its not about that, this game is unbalance at pve atm... and all is talk only abut pvp. if they finally fix the pvp why they not fix same pve to ??? cos anyway 95% of ppl play at pve not at pvp...

[alonehope]

Dont wanna tell anything but Infested and Hydra use to be Season same as Vardan valley, it use to be best place for farming golds and one map for rogs was 10sec and now its gates so dont care it and run. Dont care warrior class if u dont play warrior. We dont care rogs so u dont care wars. Just accept that u cant reach LB #1 in solo :)
Peace

oh, brother, they are rouge ... they care if they miss even one single place for farm dw, if they get op in the gate and do 200k pts they will be happy and silent but they can't do that and will keep asking it till they get it they want all fun caz they have most expensive item caz 70% of the game is rouge :concern: so they will keep try

[anacebela]

its not about that, this game is unbalance at pve atm... and all is talk only abut pvp. if they finally fix the pvp why they not fix same pve to ??? cos anyway 95% of ppl play at pve not at pvp...

and its unbalance only because warriors found a gap there.. i can beat for anything that when sts make the skull axe they dident plan that warriors will use 3 wepens proc with it.... for real....

[Jakub Endl]

if u '' dont know'' dont say xD last season was the swamp/deep marsh and not hydra or oric.. hydra and oric is like ''shyal arena'' bonus area

Hmmm i didnt saw Deep and Swamp on LB O.o

[Killerjam]

Many people complaining because they can’t abuse the use of hot bars by switching between their multiple sets, sad. Imagine switching between sets to stack procs and thinking of it as a “skill”. No skill is required. You can argue “it takes skill to know when to switch between the sets” but it really doesn’t, some common knowledge is all it takes.


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[Pyramid Head]

Lol, I like how people are defending an exploit by saying it is fun, don't kill the fun. Hacking/Cheating is fun too, that should be allowed too with that logic.

Someone asked me on another thread "why is there a solo gate elites option if players cannot solo it without this exploit?"
Well, when players use exploits it generates false data.. Devs make content on that false data and then players cry that classes and content are not balanced. Its not that hard to understand with some commonsense, is it?
If no players are able to solo after exploits are fixed then they can have correct data to balance the content. And the same goes for class balance.

The truth is level 76 gear for all classes are OP enough for players to solo anything in PVE, stopping proc from equipment change will not make any class better/worse than other in pve, it will only affect the competition of players of same classes.

I am a bit disappointed on devs too, they should challenge the arguments the players make on this forum with actual data because most of the comments are pure BS. I mean dude don't aspire for balance if "fun" of few individuals are more important to you.

[THE GOLDEN KING]

Really hoping this ‘Honor System’ you guys got going is worth the wait, but if it’s as bad as I’m expecting it to be. Good luck. Endgame in this game has been always horrible, well after 46 cap.*in my opinion*

Too bad, warriors and mages had fun while it lasted, here we go again where rogue dominates for the rest of this games life.

For the ones who say “it takes skill” yeah no... not anymore... when you have over 7k damage and 80% crit, 12k hp and over 8k armor it doesn’t take any skill to spam buttons to 1 shot a mage or 1 combo a warrior. Maybe we still got a shot in pve.


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[alonehope]

its not about that, this game is unbalance at pve atm... and all is talk only abut pvp. if they finally fix the pvp why they not fix same pve to ??? cos anyway 95% of ppl play at pve not at pvp...

u know me well did I ever said omg why u doing so much damage to boss or u did say that to me? if they remove that all none pt can pass wave 25 at all that the fact can u get it?
we all want to have fun and I don't think to make war trash again like before will add any fun to the game instead of force 70% of war player leaves the game or come play rouge ...
then u have to pay for ur next weapon 500mil, not like this one u only paid 120-200mil
and what if they do what they did on PVP do on PvE too? count farmers ... can they switch on gold loot in last sec no that time no one can farm u don't have to farm so maybe u don't know it or count event when u did mobs and wanna go, boss, what happened there? omg we have to waste 10-15 sec to change set for boss and etc...
PvE is still ok
don't say this kind of thing pls

[alonehope]

and its unbalance only because warriors found a gap there.. i can beat for anything that when sts make the skull axe they dident plan that warriors will use 3 wepens proc with it.... for real....

even before they gonna give them all out we had that kind of idea and that not even going destroy game also making it better and more fun

[yuri andreas]

My point of view on PvE complaint related to warrior class (from, i hope, experienced warrior)



You can´t be serious lady/sir. Do you want some facts about PvE from warrior perspective? I will just share 2 of my replies.


Fair for all classes? Where were you for last year and a half? I don´t see any other class, than rogues dominating Hydra/Orrick LB (with 1 mage now). Gosh, i can´t even charge my axe skill within 3 seconds (Orrick lb time). Do you see tanks create threads about it. Those are 2 maps. Gates are single map, where warrior is more viable and you seem are loosing it a little bit more than is healthy. Did i just say word warrior in combination with more viable in Gates? Sorry, i meant only warrior, who spend over 100mil for skull weapon, top gear and awaken -this warrior is viable in group gates, Deep Marsh, literally everywhere in PvE, but still can´t do big things, while pink geared rogue with ebon bow and bd can do just fine on every map. Does this sound fair to you? Let´s continue. Explain to me, please, how total destruction of one class (warrior) will help you in PvE? Yes, i am telling destruction, because all maps (except gates) are nothing else than best place to phew phew spam skills tactic invented by rogues. Is it bothering you to have more options for faster PvE maps? So behind this all "fair pve for everyone" how many PvE aspects you took in consideration other than "i want be best again" ? Do you think warriors core mechanisms pull/taunt/heal are needed on any map except Gates? Is it fair to have maps, where 1 class "main role =tanking= like many of you like to say" is absolutely irrelevant? Let´s continue and talk about last expansion. I played both, top geared warrior and legendary geared rogue. Which one class you think was and is still better on fester expansion maps? All fester maps (last cap hardest content) were dominated by 4x rogue parties and i have not seen anyone complain about it as frequently, as some do now about warriors. Your "fair PvE for all classes" will solve nothing, but destroy warrior class completely for endgame PvE and warriors like me, who spent ridiculous amount of gold collected by many years of playing this game. Did you ever try play as an warrior with ebon sword in Deep Marsh and as an legendary geared rogue with ebon bow there? This was the meta of last expansion, and once again, i have not seen any complaint from warriors. Well, you can do it now, lets share your findings and tell us more about fair PvE for all classes.
I am not sure if you know this, but i will ask: Are you aware of fact, that there is SOLO Gates LB for each class, and you can´t end up on warrior solo LB, when you are other class user? You think it is all about using mighty multi proc you saw? Well, all i can say is buy those weapons and go try solo as an warrior, feel free to share your result/ your LB position here with me. It is more about using environment in your benefit and know when to dodge = use head one might say. 9/10 DPS class i play with in group Gates just doing phew phew skills tactic, moving in front of spider/s when spiders do their red zone attack and after IK they are curious why that happened, while simple move to the left/right would save them. One harder map (running for how long? 3 months? Lb Gates not even month) in 2 years and some rogues can´t accept the fact, that there exist another class, that is good for PvE. And that "other class" must buy everything in this game just to keep up with rogue with duggar bow. To be clear, it is completely not possible to do group Gates LB without 1-2 good rogues.
You want know what was really unfair? Playing last lvl cap endgame map (Deep Marsh), where 4x average rogues with legendary gear + ebon bow were farming deep within 10 minutes, while best geared wars were struggling to end the map in 20 minutes +. Amount of rejects from rogues to party was too high even for me. You all rogues want fair pve for everyone, while last lvl cap (71) was designed for your class, even for undergeared ones, because minions and bosses were not strong enough for you, so warrior, that can protect you was not needed. Warrior class struggled from summer 2018 till winter 2019 in PvE (Deep Marsh/Orrick/Hydra,Mogera Lair, Frontier, Greensap Farm, Old Gates - endgame content) and nobody cried, 0 rogues cared. Introduction of skull weapons finally made warriors viable for PvE and now you are talking about "fair PvE", for real ?... All i can see/ read here is whine of some greedy users, who are unhappy, when they don´t shine (while it is not even truth, because rogues are still best class for 99% PvE content).


Warriors do solo wave 25+ easy? Do you even read, what you write? I don´t see any other warrior go above wave 25 in solo gates. 500mil? So this is quality measurement for you? Guess what, i spent much more gold on my gear even before skull weapons were introduced and my class was total trash everywhere in PvE. Am i complaining about your class asking to nerf your class for PvE ond daily basis, because i cant be on Orrick/Hydra LB? Are warriors complaining how ridiculously strong aimed shot with bd is in PvE on bosses? I repeat myself from the case above, when you think it is all about multi proc and "easy do wave 25", feel free to go and try it. Share your result "so called best rogue".





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I don´t understand, why warrior class lie in guts of rogues. Aren´t you happy for other classes, when they really can do something on PvE map? Or you are okey with idea, that single warrior with top gear/ top awaken should fight single minion for 10 seconds and leave map in neverending boss fight. Will this make you happy again? Allright, i don´t understand this cry and i don´t want continue in this charade. Warriors will be piece of trash in PvE = read slow snails, when you achieve, what you all are complaining about, while rogues will remain unharmed, because with single arcane bow can do everything, while warrior without 2 or more procs is snail in endgame PvE.

As i said in sentences above, i am done with this battle, this one is OP, this one need nerf. When STS development team decide something need change, they will do it, don´t worry.

Why can´t all AL players just enjoy, what STS do for us everyday. I know, we are PEOPLE...
Have a nice day and smile!Go... Go... maroos
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[alonehope]

and u guys saying that's BS no need any knowledge oh Hotbars well they won't remove it dw and i will show a super combo soon that even mage can pass warrior damage maybe I'm not sure about it yet but we all fine now in PvE and PVP little got BS but I'm fine on it too go learn how and when u should use another set those days is over u needed only 1 set to end all the game u need ms to run / BD for boss/damage for mob/ armor for tanking /gold loot for farm lol/its 100% is wost idea removing Hotbar from PvE
on PVP some said right ...
that's not fair when u have done 80% of enemy hp then he go to super armor set and u can't kill him so he/she will recover and do same back to u

[anacebela]

u know me well did I ever said omg why u doing so much damage to boss or u did say that to me? if they remove that all none pt can pass wave 25 at all that the fact can u get it?
we all want to have fun and I don't think to make war trash again like before will add any fun to the game instead of force 70% of war player leaves the game or come play rouge ...
then u have to pay for ur next weapon 500mil, not like this one u only paid 120-200mil
and what if they do what they did on PVP do on PvE too? count farmers ... can they switch on gold loot in last sec no that time no one can farm u don't have to farm so maybe u don't know it or count event when u did mobs and wanna go, boss, what happened there? omg we have to waste 10-15 sec to change set for boss and etc...
PvE is still ok
don't say this kind of thing pls

''none pt can pass wave 25 at all that the fact can u get it?'' then its will be fair for everyone... i dont think is fair if only one class can do it and all other cant... i cant believe sts was plan it like this just cant believe!!!

''can they switch on gold loot in last sec no that time no one can farm'' i think everyone should can swap but the proc should not can stack with other procs...

any other questions ?

[alonehope]

but all rouges who said remove Hotbar are from infest/hydra map that u only need one single BD set GG
why u guys don't play all of the game and pls buy some GL set and farm in Deep/valley.
so u will understand how important that Hotbar really is ...
lets deal on all facts that game is balanced now but yes I agree to staking set in PVP was BS :) I were doing same btw war glint axe is necessary for PVP let them change set like old days in inventory and use equipment loadout ...

[alonehope]

''none pt can pass wave 25 at all that the fact can u get it?'' then its will be fair for everyone... i dont think is fair if only one class can do it and all other cant... i cant believe sts was plan it like this just cant believe!!!

''can they switch on gold loot in last sec no that time no one can farm'' i think everyone should can swap but the proc should not can stack with other procs...

any other questions ?

u saying unreasonable thing now we can use GL but can't use other weapons? i let u think on that but ...
im pretty sure u was in pt when we were 2 rouges 1 war 1 mage and hit every time wave 27-29 and u die in start caz u have like what 6k armor ??
the gate is simple even war ult not needed that u saying this much about it why???
caz I can delete all mobs in like idk 5 seconds even if don't change any set only my main set as mob killer staff and armor u saw that with ur own eye didn't u?

[alonehope]

also, I hit wave 30 with 1 rog 2 mages 1 war its BS if u saying none pt without 2 war cant pass wave 25 caz we all can...
deny it then I will see u are not able to do this caz ur the only rouge who said this
i did try all pt 2M1W1R/2R1W1M/2W1W1M/3M1W/3M1R/3R1M/3W1M ->they all can hit +25 so ez if everyone knows what do to

[anacebela]

but all rouges who said remove Hotbar are from infest/hydra map that u only need one single BD set GG
why u guys don't play all of the game and pls buy some GL set and farm in Deep/valley.
so u will understand how important that Hotbar really is ...
lets deal on all facts that game is balanced now but yes I agree to staking set in PVP was BS :) I were doing same btw war glint axe is necessary for PVP let them change set like old days in inventory and use equipment loadout ...

i cant believe u say that like argument... hydra/oric is bonus area like shyal arena.... u have to live in texas and have ping 0 to do it... elite valley is SEASON AREA and it is unbalance for one class wish has find a gab on the game..
i understand if u run with marros and try to protect him but for real watch the things with your eyes xDD

[Premo]

I think for the fairness of the game just like old hydra that nerf long time ago. Make it to the elite red gates no gold drop. thats the only reason why rogue and war are fighting and hydra is a rogue and mage map but nerfed because of warior then nerf the elite res portal too

[Premo]

Hydra gold loot last half a month but in favor of warior it was nerfed the only class that has an additional damage to in bog is warior big favor. But elite red gates now i think its 1months remove the goldloot on elite red gates or bring back gold loot on hydra make it hydra a hard map for goldloot.

[alonehope]

i cant believe u say that like argument... hydra/oric is bonus area like shyal arena.... u have to live in texas and have ping 0 to do it... elite valley is SEASON AREA and it is unbalance for one class wish has find a gab on the game..
i understand if u run with marros and try to protect him but for real watch the things with your eyes xDD

well ill deny ur last word me and marross removed each other and ignored 2 days before gate get nerf nad hard to pass wave 70 so basically I'm saying from my own

[capeo]

Ok my 2 cents. Get rid of stacking procs with out getting rid of gear load outs/hot bars. One proc ends when gear is switched. I don't like it but that would be ok. Not being able to switch gear is a pain in PvP. Don't care what you do in pve but I'm not a lb runner. People switched gear in the past it just took longer. I was using different gear to handle different situations mid fight not just to stack procs.

[alonehope]

i cant believe u say that like argument... hydra/oric is bonus area like shyal arena.... u have to live in texas and have ping 0 to do it... elite valley is SEASON AREA and it is unbalance for one class wish has find a gab on the game..
i understand if u run with marros and try to protect him but for real watch the things with your eyes xDD

its season area LB right and who cares who dominant top 1 overall? u got top 1 rouge so u are the best rouge that's fine and marross the best war and im trash mage who didn't even pass wave 5 maybe xD (never tried lb and maybe never do try it )
but i can see everything is fine now also pvp if u run fast u don't have op state if u have state u can't run fast kinda fare but only war who cant glint axe have bad feelings

[anacebela]

its season area LB right and who cares who dominant top 1 overall? u got top 1 rouge so u are the best rouge that's fine and marross the best war and im trash mage who didn't even pass wave 5 maybe xD (never tried lb and maybe never do try it )
but i can see everything is fine now also pvp if u run fast u don't have op state if u have state u can't run fast kinda fare but only war who cant glint axe have bad feelings

but its not about lb xDDD pve is unbalance to not only pvp, cant be that one class dominate on armor, health and damage!!! valley lb just profs that its unbalance because on elite valley u need all that three components!

i want hear sts opinion: did they for real plan the skull axe with 2 other weapon procs and how it will effect on game balance...

[alonehope]

but its not about lb xDDD pve is unbalance to not only pvp, cant be that one class dominate on armor, health and damage!!! valley lb just profs that its unbalance because on elite valley u need all that three components!

i want hear sts opinion: did they for real plan the skull axe with 2 other weapon procs and how it will effect on game balance...

all that we want is faster run in PvE and idc and u should not too about how much armor and damage war do have ...
let's enjoy PvE and yes I accept that PVP was not fine when war dose full combo wep on u and almost one-shot everyone
but glint wars who hook others were useful in PVP without it its fine too :)

[Fearrr]

but its not about lb xDDD pve is unbalance to not only pvp, cant be that one class dominate on armor, health and damage!!! valley lb just profs that its unbalance because on elite valley u need all that three components!

i want hear sts opinion: did they for real plan the skull axe with 2 other weapon procs and how it will effect on game balance...

Lol....Fun fact everyone. In a normal town(Chancel of Light/Order Precise Fury excluded). Highest Damage a War can push with no buffs/using VB with Electra HB would be about 5.9K Damage Range. And your going to need 2K Str to do this. Hmm let me see there is what...a Total of 2 Tanks in game who have Str this high? Cytotoxin and Aegis(If I'm missing a Tank anyone feel free to add to the list). Keep in mind people I'm Full Precise Fury War, With High Str% Awakes(Not saying the exact amount because that's nobody buisness but mine), who also has spent 500m+ on Gear. Also notice how low my Armor is to push Damage this high. Now if we take a Rouge/Mage with similar 2K Fin/Mind I guarantee you their damage is going to be more than 5.9K.
https://ibb.co/yh0JqwK

[Warfairy]

+1 guys. Definatelly needed this update and more like that to help "no pay to win players"
Grats!! Dont listen to those noobs crying

[Loloo]

I wanna meet all ppl in pvp who like this update and wanna see how all get farmed like dummies

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[Darkoptiic]

I wanna meet all ppl in pvp who like this update and wanna see how all get farmed like dummies

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Sure get your team ready. We’ll clash today at 6 pst

[Vendelta]

Sure get your team ready. We’ll clash today at 6 pst

lmao this guy

[arlor.rendtail]

if u want PVP to be balanced, disable all awakes only in pvp and lets fight with balanced skills and gears. that is the only way pvp will get balanced.
back to the old pvp with no awakes and hotbars. op clashes

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[Xyv.io]

Kids. Stop. Update is awesome you can play PvP with just your skills now, no need stacking proc and abusing it. Imo very useful update , more balanced PvP now, warriors can still kill rogues no if skilled. I don't why everyone is crying about this, glint set is a very old set and it needs to go for sure from higher level PvP . Just play with pure skills now no need swapping all the time.

[Skolking]

How many rogues are that op and if they are they spent 3x more money than you did.

[Fearrr]

How many rogues are that op and if they are they spent 3x more money than you did.
Ok let's run with this. I said 500m+ but for the sake of discussion we will use the number 500m. 500m×3 is 1.5B. Any Rogues currently know how many 2K Dex Rogues are in game atm? If your a 2K Dex Rogue if you could post a SS of your stats unbuffed with Electra HB standing in a normal town or house I would greatly appreciated. I want to see the Raw damage comparison. And if you don't mind give estimate of how much you spent. Thx.

Any 2K Int Mages feel free to join in if you want to.

[Pyramid Head]

Lol....Fun fact everyone. In a normal town(Chancel of Light/Order Precise Fury excluded). Highest Damage a War can push with no buffs/using VB with Electra HB would be about 5.9K Damage Range. And your going to need 2K Str to do this. Hmm let me see there is what...a Total of 2 Tanks in game who have Str this high? Cytotoxin and Aegis(If I'm missing a Tank anyone feel free to add to the list). Keep in mind people I'm Full Precise Fury War, With High Str% Awakes(Not saying the exact amount because that's nobody buisness but mine), who also has spent 500m+ on Gear. Also notice how low my Armor is to push Damage this high. Now if we take a Rouge/Mage with similar 2K Fin/Mind I guarantee you their damage is going to be more than 5.9K.
https://ibb.co/yh0JqwK

Dude stat comparison between classes is a very wrong thing to do, because then if warriors are aspiring to be DPS like rogues the trade off will be their base armor and health, are you ready to accept that?

There is a reason why level 76 warrior weapons have better proc buffs than other 2 classes. The axe proc has dmg buff, haste, dot which btw over compensates for the low damage warriors get from stats, similarly aegis gives higher damage buff than the staff and dag.

[Skolking]

Lol, I haven't seen any 2k Dex rogue except fopp, and one other one. They are rare compared to tanks.
And know a 2k int mage will have more raw damage than that rogue. Since int gives more dmg than Dex without awakes.
And a tank with 2k str and dozer axe will have up to 8k if not more dmg.

Rogues gears will still cost more to than tanks or mages, even if then spend same cash on awakes

[Fearrr]

Dude stat comparison between classes is a very wrong thing to do, because then if warriors are aspiring to be DPS like rogues the trade off will be their base armor and health, are you ready to accept that?

There is a reason why level 76 warrior weapons have better proc buffs than other 2 classes. The axe proc has dmg buff, haste, dot which btw over compensates for the low damage warriors get from stats, similarly aegis gives higher damage buff than the staff and dag.

That's a great point. In other MMORPG games when there is a choice between DPS War or Pure Tank, either HP or Armor is the trade off. I have no problem with that at all. Lets say War Dps swords in future have a similar Passive Proc as the Legendary Duskbringer Claymore Passively decrease armor by 30%(Or adjusted based on Lvl) for Class Balance. I would be perfectly fine with that.

Also I didn't build my Tank like this because I wanted to become a Rogue. I built my Tank like this because AL does not offer Class Choice options or lets say Talent Trees.

[Fearrr]

Lol, I haven't seen any 2k Dex rogue except fopp, and one other one. They are rare compared to tanks.
And know a 2k int mage will have more raw damage than that rogue. Since int gives more dmg than Dex without awakes.
And a tank with 2k str and dozer axe will have up to 8k if not more dmg.

Rogues gears will still cost more to than tanks or mages, even if then spend same cash on awakes

There should be about 6 or more 2K Dex Rogues in game. There is 2 2K Str Tanks. A 2K Str Tank and Dozer Axe will have up to 8K if not more Damage? With No Buffs on and Proc? Please show me this 2K Tank who does :)

[Ieaffy]

RIP glint set tank,

[Skolking]

What was it's use, I don't really understand I see people using it it has very low armor

[anacebela]

Ok let's run with this. I said 500m+ but for the sake of discussion we will use the number 500m. 500m×3 is 1.5B. Any Rogues currently know how many 2K Dex Rogues are in game atm? If your a 2K Dex Rogue if you could post a SS of your stats unbuffed with Electra HB standing in a normal town or house I would greatly appreciated. I want to see the Raw damage comparison. And if you don't mind give estimate of how much you spent. Thx.

Any 2K Int Mages feel free to join in if you want to.

bro! dont try understand me wrong! im HAPPY that warriors have damage very happy!!! but they cant have best damage best armor and best health same time !!! just cant understand ? xDD when skull proc its should give - 50% armor and -50% health then it will be fair... but now with weapon procs warrior have best damage best armor and best health and THAT IS TOTALLY UNFAIR!!!! unbalances that dam pve totally

[anacebela]

bro! dont try understand me wrong! im HAPPY that warriors have damage very happy!!! but they cant have best damage best armor and best health same time !!! just cant understand ? xDD when skull proc its should give - 50% armor and -50% health then it will be fair... but now with weapon procs warrior have best damage best armor and best health and THAT IS TOTALLY UNFAIR!!!! unbalances that dam pve totally

''warriors weapons combo procs''

[Loloo]

There should be about 6 or more 2K Dex Rogues in game. There is 2 2K Str Tanks. A 2K Str Tank and Dozer Axe will have up to 8K if not more Damage? With No Buffs on and Proc? Please show me this 2K Tank who does :)Raw dmg of 2,1k dex rouge 10,850dmg

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[Xyv.io]

Raw dmg of 2,1k dex rouge 10,850dmg

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Lmfaoo. That's with elixir.

[Premo]

bro! dont try understand me wrong! im HAPPY that warriors have damage very happy!!! but they cant have best damage best armor and best health same time !!! just cant understand ? xDD when skull proc its should give - 50% armor and -50% health then it will be fair... but now with weapon procs warrior have best damage best armor and best health and THAT IS TOTALLY UNFAIR!!!! unbalances that dam pve totally

Hope dev/sts give consideration on this for total balance, warior got all that they have while a rogue cannot tank, warior now is like a godstrength with a high armor warior got what he wants.

[Faotblack]

I've got a really good idea for you. Why don't you go warrior? Just stop crying about things like that. Do you even think what will happen with warriors if this happens? Speed sets will be almost useless and many other things. There is one saying which says "Look before you leap." and i think it's right for you.

[Fearrr]

bro! dont try understand me wrong! im HAPPY that warriors have damage very happy!!! but they cant have best damage best armor and best health same time !!! just cant understand ? xDD when skull proc its should give - 50% armor and -50% health then it will be fair... but now with weapon procs warrior have best damage best armor and best health and THAT IS TOTALLY UNFAIR!!!! unbalances that dam pve totally

Minus 50% HP/Armor. Lol stop don’t get carried away. Lets be realistic every Warrior is not walking around with 24K + HP. The Average endgame Warrior prolly has 16K-17K HP. And for me to have 24K HP my armor has to be 8K range which at Lvl 76 is very low for a Warrior.

You talk about Combo Procs from Weps which every class has the ability to do. And how much gold does it cost for a Warrior to own Skull Axe+Skull Aegis+Ebon Aegis+Ebon Sword+TB+Glint Aegis? Let’s be realistic the average Warrior can’t afford or is walking around with this many Weps. There is only a handful of Warriors who can afford to do this.

Now lets move on to Class Roles. So in AL I think we all can agree a Warrior Role is to keep PT alive and hold aggro. So as a War if I’m doing my Class Role in Pve why are you concerned about what my HP/Damage/Armor is? Why does that even matter if I’m doing the Role I’m supposed to do? My Stats and doing my Role should be my concern not a Rogue or Mages, And hey now we even do some damage on the side *which makes the whole PT run faster*. Or now when we have the scenarios where you might be stuck with more than 1 War in Random or PT we are not looking at 20min+ runs and endless boss fights. So what’s problem?

So you say totally unfair? Ok lets run with that. Warrior core attributes HP/Armor so ofc that should be the best. You keep saying best damage which is nonsense. It takes 4 to 5 other Weps Procs stacking to be even on the same damage Lvl as the other 2 classes. But that’s the price we have to pay literally to be able to do this. I see Rogues say look at Swamp Temple 2020 Group LB and Elite Valley Gates Group LB. Lol ok let’s take a look at that.

Swamp Temple 2020(Which is scaled to Lvl 76 so qualifies as this Season’s/Expansions Content). I only have SS of the first 4 Places so I will read off the Top 4 teams. #1 1,064,816 Fox, Frisked ,Jarrius, Whatever(2 Rogues 2 Tanks), #2 1,036,799 Avahi, Cytotoxin, Joomills, Marroos(4 Wars). Now lets pause for a sec and take a look at this # 2 Spot. 4 War Pt making Top 10 LB has never been done before in Swamp Temple History (There has been a total of 3 Swamp Temples to date). 3 out of the 4 of these Wars Avahi, Cytotoxin, Marroos our some of the most Op Pve Wars in this game…Who have spent 500m+ in Gear…What’s the problem? Moving on. #3 1,002,065 Bosat, Gnarsito, Kershys,Luciiferlml(1 War 2 Mages 1 Rogue). #4 988,465 Dzm, Gnaristo, Hes, Hulkkyst( 2 Wars 1 Mage 1 Rogue). In the Top 4 Spots you can see the diversity in classes. The 2nd 4 Tank PT placed 10th.

I’m not going to talk about Solo Gates LB because you should only be worried about your own class LB. The other class LB’s has nothing to do with you or should even be your concern. Elite Gates Group LB. 9/10 Spots on Elite Gates Group LB has one or more of 3/ 4 Tanks who put up 1m+ Points in Swamp Temple 2020. Moving on lets look at the #3 Spot which your in. 728,028 points you put up with 2 Tanks 1 Mage 1 Rogue. That’s 282,518 points less(Which is prolly like what 5-6 more Waves maybe) then #1 Spot. Totally unfair though? Now the #1 Spot which happens to have the same 3/4 Tanks who put up 1m+ in Swamp Temple 2020 put up 1m+ points again…Imagine that lol crazy right?

As you can see in the #3 Spot getting on this LB can be done and is fair enough for what is supposed to be the hardest Lvl 76 Elite Map. Now that’s up to the rest of the Endgame player base…That’s not my job…That’s not my problem. So here is a suggestion Lvl 76 player’s don’t like how Elite Gates Group LB looks? Then stop crying, put your big boy pants on, and do something about it! And hey if Elite Gates is to hard for you…Then this is not the LB for you.

[jazzary]

yea, just because of 1 complain about endgame pvp nice nice nice

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Lol any lvl in AL got they time like 16-21-26-31-36-51-56-61-66-71 now is 76time xd


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[|Ares|]

This update is a solid goodbye to people overstacking armor gears with speed sets in between also the ABOUT TIME death of old proc kind of gears working in pvp. Seriously glintstone set from Ren'gol expansion should finally be gone or stick to a lvl cap where people twink at right now. Same thing was with certain people having broken armor gears to switch in between just before dying. How is that fun to anyone?
Tanks with glintstone sets going at the back of the teamfight pulling and when supposed to die switching back to gears with armor to survive? If you're using 1 set manage to survive with it and stop calling it a skill at any point because it was boring to deal with.

Another thing is with rogues using speed set to rejoin the fight to then switch to gears with a rough difference of extra 3k armor to just run in between tanks to get a heal shield? Manage to survive with that speed set you're using then, stop relying on buffs (duskbringer dagger armor buff => balanced daggers) and procs of the weapons (frightful shiv and tainted set switch at 66 cap) that literally is just a stat-wise abuse to get advantage.

Get a set, determine how and when you want to use it and stick to the strategy.

This is from rogue class point of view, never personally abused switching sets even before hotbar slots were implemented. The majority of people complaining are the ones with average of hundreds of millions worth spare sets against people doing pretty fine with 1 set of gear. Hence why we can see the "for real -10000" opinions here.

This won't make PvP less active, it's gonna make it more skill based. Again about the time.
Once again great update +1

[Premo]

Mostly I read here is us rogue crying, why warior never complain and not crying? Lol take a look at youre self, sts said we are family here rogue complain but warior reply a trashtalk words crying, then take a look who is none educated here?

[Ieaffy]

What was it's use, I don't really understand I see people using it it has very low armor

It gives buff 3 pull axe at same time easy to catch rouges thats why this item is usefull if u are tank role in pvp

[MAgicMate]

+1 Encryptions.
Warrior has one of the LOWEST PRICES of Items.
BUT if you want to be good Warrior, here it comes.
To be OP Warrior you must:
- Buy Really, REALLY expensive items with good Awaken
OR
- Do the Awaken by myself. And everybody, who been awaking something knows, that it isn't EASY to make a really good awaken.

+1, not a lot of people realize this

[MAgicMate]

I dont really get why rogs are so mad about this....oke skull weaps make war strong class and yes war si dominant class at Elite gates LB, but i dont see why would that bother you.....there is no reward for TOP OVERALL LB....the fact that u get less PTS than war shouldnt metter than :/
I dont even get how is than an issue in overall PVE....wars are able to run with any class and they are not an extra weight. Few months ago, before lvl 76 arc weaps buff, there was almost never a slot for war in GATES PARTY....and the reaction we got here at the forum? "War is supposed to be Tank, but there is only a few of wars who can do it correctly".....no u werent inviting us coz we couldnt play...i was coz we are Warriors... Im not saying that every rog said this... For example She, Uyqa, Mafiacz...i could go on....friendly palyers, who would take me in pt....but even than i could feel that iam there just to clear mobs a bit faster and to heal them.
The whole LB is taken by rogs...and honestly i dont mind it..keep it. The only LB there is for warriors is ELITE GATES.
Also +1 Alonehope, Harvy, Marroos...i havent seen a single mage complaing about this, there is not even a single mage in group ELITE GATES LB (if iam wrong iam sorry).

And a last thing i would like say......i dont honstly mind anyone complaing about this, nor in game nor here at the forum..... What i mind are those toxic PMs iam getting basicly every day (idk whom are those from and idc). What is the saddest think about those...and i find that absolutly pathetic...are nicks of people sending those Pms to me.... Latest were "Marrosvsmagic", "Marrosisnoob", "Magisisnoob", "Dzmisnoob"..i could go on......

Just enjoy the game and if you have so much energy....use it for something usefull

[anacebela]

Dear STS

plz do something with that warriors weapons multi proc thing... its destroy this game PVE totally!

1) its make warriors like ''next lvl'' best class in the game , because multi procs make to warriors best armor, best health and best damage! and like u understand its totally unfair when mage or rogue has damage but they dont have armor or health...

2) its destroy jewelers farming only warriors can make with weapons multi proc in 15 min elixir + 300 all weak jewelers... no rogue no mage can do that..

3) it is very bad for new players , none1 of new player should chose rogue or mage because warriors class is so so so much more op now (why choice to play on class wich is alot worse then two other..) and that means u have to have 3-4 weapons and it is to expensive for new players...

[Geuimau]

Dear STS

plz do something with that warriors weapons multi proc thing... its destroy this game PVE totally!

1) its make warriors like ''next lvl'' best class in the game , because multi procs make to warriors best armor, best health and best damage! and like u understand its totally unfair when mage or rogue has damage but they dont have armor or health...

2) its destroy jewelers farming only warriors can make with weapons multi proc in 15 min elixir + 300 all weak jewelers... no rogue no mage can do that..

3) it is very bad for new players , none1 of new player should chose rogue or mage because warriors class is so so so much more op now (why choice to play on class wich is alot worse then two other..) and that means u have to have 3-4 weapons and it is to expensive for new players...+1

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[criticalis]

This update is a solid goodbye to people overstacking armor gears with speed sets in between also the ABOUT TIME death of old proc kind of gears working in pvp. Seriously glintstone set from Ren'gol expansion should finally be gone or stick to a lvl cap where people twink at right now. Same thing was with certain people having broken armor gears to switch in between just before dying. How is that fun to anyone?
Tanks with glintstone sets going at the back of the teamfight pulling and when supposed to die switching back to gears with armor to survive? If you're using 1 set manage to survive with it and stop calling it a skill at any point because it was boring to deal with.

Another thing is with rogues using speed set to rejoin the fight to then switch to gears with a rough difference of extra 3k armor to just run in between tanks to get a heal shield? Manage to survive with that speed set you're using then, stop relying on buffs (duskbringer dagger armor buff => balanced daggers) and procs of the weapons (frightful shiv and tainted set switch at 66 cap) that literally is just a stat-wise abuse to get advantage.

Get a set, determine how and when you want to use it and stick to the strategy.

This is from rogue class point of view, never personally abused switching sets even before hotbar slots were implemented. The majority of people complaining are the ones with average of hundreds of millions worth spare sets against people doing pretty fine with 1 set of gear. Hence why we can see the "for real -10000" opinions here.

This won't make PvP less active, it's gonna make it more skill based. Again about the time.
Once again great update +1+1

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[Anil LK Joseph]

-1 destroyed pvp smh


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[Ilove_Poopoo]

-1 destroyed pvp smh


Sent from my iPhone using TapatalkAwakes destroyed it, this made it better.

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[Killerjam]

-1 destroyed pvp smh


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Pvp has been destroyed for years. This is a step in the right direction.


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[|Ares|]

-1 destroyed pvp smh


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Pvp was destroyed by people abusing the procs and certain sets. Not because you can't swap them anymore.

[Pres]

Well look infested if there is a war lb and hydra @_@ if need to nerf war probably need to nerf everything.... :d

[Termantoh Bee]

+1
Please remove awakening for pvp too. Hahahaha
Back to old school more fun to see pvp player skills.

[Alfabeast]

Or help bring pvp back and listen to our ideas
+ Gear can only be changed in PvP while not in combat.
+ All non-party zones that use starting areas now only allow 60 seconds for the last person to enter after everyone else is ready.
+ Trader Klassi now sells sacks of Orc Tags.

[devilMors]

The most annoying part is those comments made by such players who donot even play pvp.

[Alirezabo]

+1
Please remove awakening for pvp too. Hahahaha
Back to old school more fun to see pvp player skills.Iam really agree with you

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[Alirezabo]

+1 Encryptions.
Warrior has one of the LOWEST PRICES of Items.
BUT if you want to be good Warrior, here it comes.
To be OP Warrior you must:
- Buy Really, REALLY expensive items with good Awaken
OR
- Do the Awaken by myself. And everybody, who been awaking something knows, that it isn't EASY to make a really good awaken.Rog s item are 1.5x war item or more if u want be awsm pvp u most buy really expensive thing it isn't just for wars war s pvp items are cheaper than rogs

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[Algorhythm]

Dear STS

plz do something with that warriors weapons multi proc thing... its destroy this game PVE totally!

1) its make warriors like ''next lvl'' best class in the game , because multi procs make to warriors best armor, best health and best damage! and like u understand its totally unfair when mage or rogue has damage but they dont have armor or health...

2) its destroy jewelers farming only warriors can make with weapons multi proc in 15 min elixir + 300 all weak jewelers... no rogue no mage can do that..

3) it is very bad for new players , none1 of new player should chose rogue or mage because warriors class is so so so much more op now (why choice to play on class wich is alot worse then two other..) and that means u have to have 3-4 weapons and it is to expensive for new players...Are you forgetting about Hydra update? During that update no other classes wanted to run with a tank in that map because apparently we just slowed you down.

Set swapping has been around since 2014 idk why it's being disabled now, I can understand about the hotbar issue.

Regarding the multiple sets that a tank owns, it's a neccesity just like maoseleum update where mages needed Dragon Staff, Immortal Staff and Flame Staff.





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[Mojos]

Hmm im planning to get war dozer weap... ugh!!
@devs, nerf or buff it more?! So as not to waste gold

[Ilove_Poopoo]

Funny people talk about Pve all of a sudden when it wasn't even disabled for that gamemode.

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[Fearrr]

Funny people talk about Pve all of a sudden when it wasn't even disabled for that gamemode.

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All of sudden? Go back and read the Rogues trying get this taking out of Pve as well. The people talking about Pve our the ones trying to stop this nonsense...I thought that was obvious. And I promise you there ain't nothing funny about this... Borderline pathetic is the term I would use.

[MAgicMate]

How is this even an issue still wont get it......mauso expansion - top class was mage, fester - rogs were dominating just like warriors are now....it is only fair that now it is warriors turn :/

Tbh i expect wars being tanks again after next expansion / sesion or whatever u want to call it..... And i really do hope that next time its mages turn :)

[Fearrr]

All of sudden? Go back and read the Rogues trying get this taking out of Pve as well. The people talking about Pve our the ones trying to stop this nonsense...I thought that was obvious. And I promise you there ain't nothing funny about this... Borderline pathetic is the term I would use.

Majoirty I should say after reading a few replies. My posts and few others our talking about Pve only and not Pvp.*

[PatD]

Dear STS

plz do something with that warriors weapons multi proc thing... its destroy this game PVE totally!

1) its make warriors like ''next lvl'' best class in the game , because multi procs make to warriors best armor, best health and best damage! and like u understand its totally unfair when mage or rogue has damage but they dont have armor or health...

2) its destroy jewelers farming only warriors can make with weapons multi proc in 15 min elixir + 300 all weak jewelers... no rogue no mage can do that..

3) it is very bad for new players , none1 of new player should chose rogue or mage because warriors class is so so so much more op now (why choice to play on class wich is alot worse then two other..) and that means u have to have 3-4 weapons and it is to expensive for new players...

???? Before posting things like that can you please make this test?

Go infested timed map with 4 rogues(average rogue with no bd awake) and then go with 4 warrrior(average warr with no bd awake), tell me time it took for each pt... Then maybe you will understand the reality

Please stop assuming every warrior are like the top warrior in the game

[Bluehazee]

im best rogue in the game , i can do 40k points, u are one of the best mage in the game can u do ever 20k solo ?! xD and thats not only in solo 95% of grup party top list is warriors i think its lil unfair cos we dont have that kind weapon procs.. i already spend 500+ mil on my rogue gears and i dont wana spend another 500 mil for warrior gears just because there is unbalance atm...

I stopped reading after 'im best rogue in game'....I couldn't bear such humility in these dark times .


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[Pres]

Well im requesting LB time run for hydra/orrick NAKED looks like fair right? :)

[Decide]

Well im requesting LB time run for hydra/orrick NAKED looks like fair right? :)+ 1000 for the idea, pvp & Lb should be naked.. ( Balanced ) [emoji23]

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[MAgicMate]

Well im requesting LB time run for hydra/orrick NAKED looks like fair right? :)

love it lel :D