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Overgrown
03-27-2020, 09:06 AM
We keep hating other classes which I find wrong now, let's suggest game mechanics that will be fair for everyone.

No more, race LB or the fastest it is obviously rogue centered.

Also, Add PvP assists(may count as pvp kills too) it is true, it is unfair for other classes.

Maybe, add Tri-class LB which will be a good community balancing.

Or turn all maps the to have madatory different class requirement per room maximum of 2 in same class in one room. Ex. W/W/R/M, R/R/M/W, M/M/R/W

Let's cut the hates now, let's suggest maybe better improvement in the game.

The main point of this is to stop or reduce the issue of class discrimination.

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Ilove_Poopoo
03-27-2020, 09:16 AM
We keep hating other classes which I find wrong now, let's suggest game mechanics that will be fair for everyone.

No more, race LB or the fastest it is obviously rogue centered.


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Only reason rogs dominate this lb is due to ms gears. There are no mage or warr gear pieces with over 45+ ms per equipment. It just so happen that coincidentally these high ms awakens are rolled into rog gears more oftenly since more rogs in general are awakening during the event.

Speed is not everything, ping, lag, skill of a team affect performance.



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Overgrown
03-27-2020, 09:18 AM
Yes, maybe they should implement in all maps that require all kind of class

Ik, it will be too complicated if you want to play with your friends if you 4 in the same class, but I think it will be a good thing for the majority.
Warrior Players will increase also Mages and will benefit Rogues too, Rogue items will be reduced in price due to less demand if the numbers of each class player base will be a bit the same

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Overgrown
03-27-2020, 09:26 AM
And every class will be needed (because it is mandatory), in every run in every event, in Any LB.

PatD
03-27-2020, 09:30 AM
Yes, maybe they should implement in all maps that require all kind of class

Ik, it will be too complicated if you want to play with your friends if you 4 in the same class, but I think it will be a good thing for the majority.
Warrior Players will increase also Mages and will benefit Rogues too, Rogue items will be reduced in price due to less demand if the numbers of each class player base will be a bit the same

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If all class can't do any map on there own, why we would have in many map or event SOLO option? this is one of the main reason they have give warrior some damage, so they can at least be able to solo also, and if we would have to wait to have a pt of all class before doing any map, that would create a huge problem!

Many often when i play this game i can only log in for very short time, but im able to run a map very fast if i feel to, now if i would have to wait every time for a full pt with all class that would mean that i would not even log in cuz i know i would not have the time.

Overgrown
03-27-2020, 09:36 AM
If all class can't do any map on there own, why we would have in many map or event SOLO option? this is one of the main reason they have give warrior some damage, so they can at least be able to solo also, and if we would have to wait to have a pt of all class before doing any map, that would create a huge problem!

Many often when i play this game i can only log in for very short time, but im able to run a map very fast if i feel to, now if i would have to wait every time for a full pt with all class that would mean that i would not even log in cuz i know i would not have the time.

But, Roles are meant to be there right? every Class is made for something, it is also wrong to take over other class' role? if the current problem is that warrior and mages are always left behind said by some of Warrior and Mage complainers here. so that no more "Rogue always rule, always in 4 team party" "All Rogues on Hydra LB, Elite Dungeons LB"

This is the solution I think, drop your personal problems for now lets look at the playing experience of the community. Hope you get the point here.

And yes, Solo is an Option but these classes are meant to co-exist with each other.

Perceval
03-27-2020, 09:42 AM
Can't see why the devs can't spend a few hours with players in pvp gathering info to finally actually do something worthwhile.

alonehope
03-27-2020, 09:43 AM
If all class can't do any map on there own, why we would have in many map or event SOLO option? this is one of the main reason they have give warrior some damage, so they can at least be able to solo also, and if we would have to wait to have a pt of all class before doing any map, that would create a huge problem!

Many often when i play this game i can only log in for very short time, but im able to run a map very fast if i feel to, now if i would have to wait every time for a full pt with all class that would mean that i would not even log in cuz i know i would not have the time.

yes, this right makes diff kinds of pt is not the solution we all need be op, not one or some ...


We keep hating other classes which I find wrong now, let's suggest game mechanics that will be fair for everyone.

No more, race LB or the fastest it is obviously rogue centered.

Also, Add PvP assists(may count as pvp kills too) it is true, it is unfair for other classes.

Maybe, add Tri-class LB which will be a good community balancing.

Or turn all maps the to have madatory different class requirement per room maximum of 2 in same class in one room. Ex. W/W/R/M, R/R/M/W, M/M/R/W

Let's cut the hates now, let's suggest maybe better improvement in the game.

The main point of this is to stop or reduce the issue of class discrimination.

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and I'm pretty happy u understand what's wrong yes giving assist those who count as kill is good too ... and I'm glad u find out I do not hate of u all and also supporting a better team and faster maps ... lb is fair tbh some part is the warrior is op like the gate that we have solo too so other class will have the same reward too on a solo deal with it some will get lower pts some more pts but there is 10 for all classes lb and that will be good if add a solo run to other maps too like infest and hydra so 4 rog pt still will get top group while all classes have their own chance to get lv reward of the season like solo hydra and infest is 100% possible for all classes and we all know it :)
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let's end this fight and stay together on fun side and go for better gameplay that is going to destroy if we go to split :)

PatD
03-27-2020, 10:04 AM
it is also wrong to take over other class' role?

We are not, if i check time it take to kill a boss compare with a rogue (if any of us have no bd awake) rogue will still kill that boss way faster than me

Overgrown
03-27-2020, 10:09 AM
We are not, if i check time it take to kill a boss compare with a rogue (if any of us have no bd awake) rogue will still kill that boss way faster than me

Got you're point too that it will take time to create a PT, but its the only solution that I have in mind atm to make every class needed in a run/party. If you have better ideas please share it here.

angeloiloveyou
03-27-2020, 10:15 AM
We are not, if i check time it take to kill a boss compare with a rogue (if any of us have no bd awake) rogue will still kill that boss way faster than me

Lol lie look at marroos he can kill the boss on event map 2 sec greedy one while not waiting the others a single rogue cannot kill event boss like hugthu

Encryptions
03-27-2020, 10:23 AM
Look, its always the rog who wants war or mages nerfed. Always; no war or mage has asked to nerf rogue. I run maus a lot and rogues are able to in m5-6 I don't care that they do, it just makes my farming faster. I wouldn't care if rog could 1 shot elite gates boss, I wouldn't say a word.
In gates, wars aren't doing tons of damage. Its the ebon aegis proc, its what helped us in temple and gates. That's the weapon proc that helped me a lot in temple.
The game is fine in pve as it is, rogs can kill bosses almost instantly, wars/mages can kill enemies faster and get pve kills. One thing I do suggest is make rogue have many procs they can build up upon with multiple things that do area damage.

angeloiloveyou
03-27-2020, 10:26 AM
Look, its always the rog who wants war or mages nerfed. Always; no war or mage has asked to nerf rogue. I run maus a lot and rogues are able to in m5-6 I don't care that they do, it just makes my farming faster. I wouldn't care if rog could 1 shot elite gates boss, I wouldn't say a word.
In gates, wars aren't doing tons of damage. Its the ebon aegis proc, its what helped us in temple and gates. That's the weapon proc that helped me a lot in temple.
The game is fine in pve as it is, rogs can kill bosses almost instantly, wars/mages can kill enemies faster and get pve kills. One thing I do suggest is make rogue have many procs they can build up upon with multiple things that do area damage.

Bog goldloot is gone because of wariors complain

Overgrown
03-27-2020, 10:26 AM
Look, its always the rog who wants war or mages nerfed. Always; no war or mage has asked to nerf rogue. I run maus a lot and rogues are able to <one shot bosses> in m5-6 I don't care that they do, it just makes my farming faster.
In gates, wars aren't doing tons of damage. Its the ebon aegis proc, its what helped us in temple and gates. That's the weapon proc that helped me a lot in temple.
The game is fine in pve as it is, rogs can kill bosses almost instantly, wars/mages can kill enemies faster and get pve kills. One thing I do suggest is make rogue possibly crowd control; does not mean they pile enemies up in maus or gates and one shot them all with 1 skill. Buff the shadow bolt damage if it is low.

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Come on, I didn't made this thread to prove what class is better or what, suggest things that will improve the classes relations so that enough of forum drama of one class is not needed or this class is not is unnecessary.

PatD
03-27-2020, 10:40 AM
Lol lie look at marroos he can kill the boss on event map 2 sec greedy one while not waiting the others a single rogue cannot kill event boss like hugthu

You are talking about the most op war in the game!! only few war can kill boss as fast as him, majority of war are not that well equipped and cant do that

alonehope
03-27-2020, 11:22 AM
Lol lie look at marroos he can kill the boss on event map 2 sec greedy one while not waiting the others a single rogue cannot kill event boss like hugthu

no bd bro ... also if don't count proc ofc mage and war if hade longer proc would dominate rouge in there

Anehazaz
03-31-2020, 06:20 AM
We keep hating other classes which I find wrong now, let's suggest game mechanics that will be fair for everyone.

No more, race LB or the fastest it is obviously rogue centered.

Also, Add PvP assists(may count as pvp kills too) it is true, it is unfair for other classes.

Maybe, add Tri-class LB which will be a good community balancing.

Or turn all maps the to have madatory different class requirement per room maximum of 2 in same class in one room. Ex. W/W/R/M, R/R/M/W, M/M/R/W

Let's cut the hates now, let's suggest maybe better improvement in the game.

The main point of this is to stop or reduce the issue of class discrimination.

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Who is this ‘we’ that you are talking about? I and many players I know play regardless of class ..it’s about respect for each other and also friendship and trust. It’s sad that you think the majority feel like that and yes there has been numerous posts over the years regarding the same thing but please don’t paint all with the same brush.

Noceur
03-31-2020, 06:46 AM
This is stupid for a high amount of reasons.

Xyv.io
03-31-2020, 07:50 AM
Mage NOOB, Warrior NOOB, rogue BEST, I DISCRIMINATE.

ancestor
03-31-2020, 08:45 AM
I don't know much about PvP so I'll let you all have that discussion amongst yourselves, but in regards to PvE, I honestly feel like it's pretty balanced. I'm a rogue that doesn't have ebon or dugger and there is no way I can solo elite valley bosses (or normal one for that matter). The ones that can are a unfair comparison as they are spending just as much (probably way more) on gear and pets as over powered war and mages. You cant complain about it... Every class has it's role. Mages and war destroy mobs, rogues are single target. When I run elite valley, the mages and war with dugger destroy everything and I'm just the shadow Vail and debuff armor guy... Know your place. Ignore rogues that complain and vise versa:)

Shocan
03-31-2020, 08:53 AM
Last swamp temple event no mages made it past 30k if memory serves, and only one or two warriors made it into 100k, whereas most rogues were much higher up than the other classes (The top 10 of rogues had a cutoff of like 90k). The divide there was obvious. This last one the mages matched the rogues stride for stride, and all in all the mage and warrior solo lb were both more competitive than the rogue lb. Y'all want everything at once, slow down and enjoy the sights, it's coming slowly. There are plenty of fast mages, mages are beginning to become more prominent in the "race lb." Rogues have fast gear, sure, but there are some maps that certain strategies come into light with a mage, bringing about faster times. It's a slow process, but sts heard you ask the first hundred thousand times, saying it again doesn't do a whole ton.

yacos
03-31-2020, 09:22 AM
In a normal MMORPG we have at less a damage classe a healer and a tank. In arcane all map can be run without tank or a healer the only important think is the damage and it's sad coz no game play, just find op set and run all map u want.

Overgrown
03-31-2020, 10:42 AM
Who is this ‘we’ that you are talking about? I and many players I know play regardless of class ..it’s about respect for each other and also friendship and trust. It’s sad that you think the majority feel like that and yes there has been numerous posts over the years regarding the same thing but please don’t paint all with the same brush.

Sorry I I generalized and it hit you. Myself have also a lot of friends too in other class, its just most of the people do discriminate other class. That's why I came up with this.



This is stupid for a high amount of reasons.

Replying without substance, is the more stupid. Please share the reasons constructively it may help.



Mage NOOB, Warrior NOOB, rogue BEST, I DISCRIMINATE.
If you're looking for attention, you're free to leave.

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Xyv.io
03-31-2020, 02:16 PM
Sorry I I generalized and it hit you. Myself have also a lot of friends too in other class, its just most of the people do discriminate other class. That's why I came up with this.




Replying without substance, is the more stupid. Please share the reasons constructively it may help.



If you're looking for attention, you're free to leave.

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Ewww I'm just trolling around. Why would I look for attention? Doesn't make any sense