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Paar
01-27-2012, 05:05 PM
Hey Guys, Im having Trouble in math... I feel like an idiot, but Im sad to say It's only Algebra I. I hate to say it but, I got F's on my last few assignments and I feel stupid again asking for help when I need Help, from you my forum friends I mean but, Any Math teacher out there that could help me out? I'd Greatly Appreciate it. I don't want the answers, I just want to understand how to solve them :(

Here a Problem I need help with...


24. -3^2 ~ -3^3 (-3X2^0)

~ = Subtraction Sign.
^ = Exponent.
- = Negative.

Bronxman2012
01-27-2012, 05:07 PM
-3^2 = -9
-3^3 = -27
(-3X2^0) = -3

So, we have:

-9 - -27 (-3)

which would be:
-9 - 81

which would be:

-90

Carth
01-27-2012, 05:22 PM
-3^2 = -9
-3^3 = -27
(-3X2^0) = -3

So, we have:

-9 - -27 (-3)

which would be:
-9 - 81

which would be:

-90

I may be wrong but doesn't (-3x2^0) = 0?

2^0 = 0
-3x0 =0

Gaunab
01-27-2012, 05:32 PM
I may be wrong but doesn't (-3x2^0) = 0?

2^0 = 0
-3x0 =0

2^0 (any any other number ^0) = 1

Fao
01-27-2012, 05:39 PM
I may be wrong but doesn't (-3x2^0) = 0?

2^0 = 0
-3x0 =0

2^0 (any any other number ^0) = 1 yep any thing to the zero'th power=0, oh and im doing algebra too!

Fao
01-27-2012, 05:40 PM
Im on ipod app so cant edit,


Edit* =1 my bad

CrimsonTider
01-27-2012, 05:51 PM
24. -3^2 ~ -3^3 (-3X2^0)

9 ~ (-27)(-9)

9 ~ 243= -234

Two tips:

1. Numbers with exponents not confined to parenthises, the symbol (+/-) is not factored til after the number is raised by the exponent.

2. Numbers raided to the ZERO power (2^0) will always equal 1.

The rest of the problem is basic math. Hope this helps bud.

OvigorothO
01-27-2012, 05:58 PM
Wow lol...all i have to say :P

Redbridge
01-27-2012, 06:33 PM
Hey Guys, Im having Trouble in math... I feel like an idiot, but Im sad to say It's only Algebra I. I hate to say it but, I got F's on my last few assignments and I feel stupid again asking for help when I need Help, from you my forum friends I mean but, Any Math teacher out there that could help me out? I'd Greatly Appreciate it. I don't want the answers, I just want to understand how to solve them :(

Here a Problem I need help with...


24. -3^2 ~ -3^3 (-3X2^0)

~ = Subtraction Sign.
^ = Exponent.
- = Negative.

Is this it?


-3^2 = -3 x -3 = 9
-3^3 = -3 x -3 x -3 = -27
-3 x 2^0 = -3 x 1 = -3

So -3^2 ~ -3^3 (-3X2^0) = 9 - (-27 x -3) = 9 - (81) = - 72

EDIT: forgot to add, for an amazing and free maths/science resource check out the khanacademy.com

Swords
01-27-2012, 06:39 PM
um: answer is: this is counfusing!! lol

Gaunab
01-27-2012, 07:00 PM
LMAO, three different answers so far :P


Is this it?


-3^2 = -3 x -3 = 9 This is where you go wrong, since there are no brackets around the 3 it is first taken to the power of 2, the minus stays.
-3^3 = -3 x -3 x -3 = -27
-3 x 2^0 = -3 x 1 = -3

So -3^2 ~ -3^3 (-3X2^0) = 9 - (-27 x -3) = 9 - (81) = - 72

EDIT: forgot to add, for an amazing and free maths/science resource check out the khanacademy.com


9 ~ (-27)(-9) The 9 ~ (-27) is alright, but where do you get (-9) as factor from? (-3x2^0) = -3x1 = -3

9 ~ 243= -234

Bronxman is right.

CrimsonTider
01-27-2012, 07:04 PM
Typo on my part where I got (-9). I just had minor surgeryvand probably shouldn't do math on prescription painkillers.

Bronx is right but my explanation was to help Paar understand "why" instead of just giving the answer.

Paar
01-27-2012, 07:09 PM
Wow Guys! Thank You Ive Reviewed ovee the answers and I see where Ive messed up. Thanks Again!

Redbridge
01-27-2012, 07:09 PM
Why would you choose to put brackets round the 3 if there are none there?

Upon further investigation it would seem it isn't clear at all...

-3 squared in my school was always -3 x -3

Check out these though - lol - confusing stuff for kids today, eh?

http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20081207114553AAmzg3i
http://wiki.answers.com/Q/What_is_minus_3_squared

EDIT: post the answer Paar whenyou get it... Good luck

Ayc2000
01-27-2012, 07:10 PM
It's 90
Crim, -3x2^0 is not -9, it's -3
Just a little calculation mistake :)

-3^2 is not the same as (-3)^2
Think of it as (-1)(3)^2

CrimsonTider
01-27-2012, 07:13 PM
It's 90
Crim, -3x2^0 is not -9, it's -3
Just a little calculation mistake :)

-3^2 is not the same as (-3)^2
Think of it as (-1)(3)^2


I love being singled out. Read my edit. Thanks.

BTW... I teach middle school math. ;)

Ayc2000
01-27-2012, 07:15 PM
I love being singled out. Read my edit. Thanks.

BTW... I teach middle school math. ;)

Sorry, your edit was after I posted XD my apologies
The second part was directed to red bridge though

Gaunab
01-27-2012, 07:16 PM
Wow Guys! Thank You Ive Reviewed ovee the answers and I see where Ive messed up. Thanks Again!

Mind telling us your version of the answer? :P

@Crim
So how does (-3x2^0) equal -9 ? I stick with -90 as solution :)

Miner
01-27-2012, 07:16 PM
yep any thing to the zero'th power=0, oh and im doing algebra too!

x^0 ≡ 1

We can prove this by x/x = 1 which is the same as (x^1)/(x^1) = 1. Since x^1 is being divided by x^1, we can take away the powers to obtain x^0. We have done nothing but simplified the LHS, the RHS stays the same.

Of course we aren't allowed to let x = 0 or else we'd be dividing by zero to get infinity.

Ayc2000
01-27-2012, 07:17 PM
Mind telling us your version of the answer? :P

@Crim
So how does (-3x2^0) equal -9 ? I stick with -90 as solution :)
He said it was a mistake lol :)

Paar
01-27-2012, 07:17 PM
Wow Guys! Thank You Ive Reviewed ovee the answers and I see where Ive messed up. Thanks Again!

Mind telling us your version of the answer? :P

@Crim
So how does (-3x2^0) equal -9 ? I stick with -90 as solution :)

Ill post it in a few on the road now. Be home soon and Ill post a pic of my math.

Bronxman2012
01-30-2012, 10:55 AM
The answer is -90. Trust The Bronxman on this one.