New jewel farming system, ideas, toughts..what to change and what to keep

[Willl]

Ok first of all for me was wrong changing jewel farming saying "fixing exploit". Actually players, for several years only found a way to maximize the jewel farm, trough your system, that you decided.
The way it was made, for like 3 years made the price of jewels fixed, almost all the same trough years, balanced and accessible for all kind of players:
-the poor players could afford fortified/excellent tier jewel
-the average players could afford a superb/noble tier jewel
-the richest players the precise tier jewel.
I think this was the right way jewel economy had to work.

That said, I'm not against new changes but there are few problems needs to be adjusted to make this new farming worth, without destroying jewel economy. I think the biggest mistake for this change is that you destroied a way for players to make gold, infact, when you introduced gold loot farm, jewel farming was the last alternative for average players to make gold during daily farming (not considering events).

In my opinion it's fine the way it is: dropping jewels elixir from endgame bosses and fine aswell you doubled its duration (extended to 30 mins).
It is also fine that you can drop jewels from mobs and bosses based on your level and awarded jewel by killing an enemy.
If I checked well you can now drop jewels from:
Deepmarsh
Mogera lair
Valley gates and its elite portals
Elite krypt (mausoleum)
Hauntlet
The problem is that chance is extremely low, almost inexistent I would say..

Consider that we can only drop cracked, damaged and weak jewels, which from water (the cheapest) to finesse (the most expensive) the max we can get is roughly 1k gold (weak finesse).
Now is this new change a way to destroy jewel farming? If no, you should really make some big changes, here my idea:
Scale every 5 levels the tier of jewels you can drop from mobs/bosses:

71-76 fortified jewel (and its lower jewels)
66-70 standard jewels (and its lower jewels)
56-65 weak jewels (and its lower jewels)
41-55 cracked and damaged jewels (and its lower jewels)

Make the drop chance rarer as the jewel worth more but in my opinion, as it is right now, jewel drop rate must be increased so so much.

Comments and toughts Arlor..give here your ideas to implement jewel farming system or correct anything if im wrong!
P.s. I m not a jewel farmer so its nothing would benefit me, just I think this is something should be changed
P.s 2: condelence to glint aegis owners lol

Have a nice day!

[aakahayyp]

Ya will is right

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[Narana.Solarie]

This supposed “fixing the exploit” has ruined the jewel farming that was working just fine.

Here is my experience:

I had to quit AL few times bc of reasons such as work and moving from country to country etc.
And when I come back or had little time, I could at least earn gold by farming jewels and selling them. Didn’t make millions but at least from the stable jewel price I could at least earn a few hundred K after finishing 2-3 elix and crafting them whole day. Even then I had to create warrior toon that I was bad at playing and invested in gears to farm jewels.
Nowadays I don’t farm jewels much because I have time during quarantine, but when work starts, many people will go back to their daily “normal” lives. And try to earn as much as we can while feeding our family.
Jewel farming helped me to not to get left too behind from others, but now that it’s changed like this, all I can do is farm gold as much as I can do before life goes back to normal and prioritize work.

If sts is looking for solutions please make the drop rate better like Will mentioned above.

Ty~ stay safe ~ be Pewfect~


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[Oakmaiden]

First off it wasn’t balanced at all. Only warrior n mage with particular gears n pet were successful. Imo if jewel farmers weren’t so greedy with prices, ppl wouldn’t have complained. I was happy enuff buying from auction til prices skyrocketed. So I feel those farmers shot themselves in the foot and now we are all screwed. That’s my view like it or not.

[Willl]

First off it wasn’t balanced at all. Only warrior n mage with particular gears n pet were successful. Imo if jewel farmers weren’t so greedy with prices, ppl wouldn’t have complained. I was happy enuff buying from auction til prices skyrocketed. So I feel those farmers shot themselves in the foot and now we are all screwed. That’s my view like it or not.


Balanced I meant the economy (jewel prices been stable for so so long). For the old jewel farm it was only necessary make a warrior lv 66, I don't think that was too hard. Anyway I didn't ask who's fault for this changement (to avoid any fight on forum xD) just how to make this new system working, cause as you said, jewel prices will skyrocket cause, as for now, there s no way to farm them.

[Oakmaiden]

The economy was hyper inflated by the farmers prices. Where’s the “balance “ in that? Oh I get it.... the balance in their bank accounts. Rofl.

[Nu.exe]

First off it wasn’t balanced at all. Only warrior n mage with particular gears n pet were successful. Imo if jewel farmers weren’t so greedy with prices, ppl wouldn’t have complained. I was happy enuff buying from auction til prices skyrocketed. So I feel those farmers shot themselves in the foot and now we are all screwed. That’s my view like it or not.

Rogues can farm them too u know. All class can jewel farm it's just maybe destined that warriors took the best place to jewel farm because wars can tank dmg and do little dmg to enemies. I tried all class for jewel farm and it is good but before the nerf of jewel farm mage and rogues just dont get profit from doing jewel farm. Since when did the price of jewels skyrocket? Ive been jewel farming for the past 3 months and it never did for a fact the price is going down. Mostly weak fury 1k-1.3k, weak mind 1.1k-1.5k, weak fin 2.5-3k that was for a long time but when awake event was coming the prices went down so quickly. It went weak fury 900-1.2k, weak mind 1.1-1.3k, weak fin 1.9k-2.3k. I dont see where we jewel farmers being greedy to rise prices, the prices are from u consumers of our jewels. If low consumers the prices will go down, it is just supply and demand kind of thing. And now that jewel farm is dead then i know for sure jewel prices will skyrocket for real because nobody will farm it and players will have to farm their own. I already uninstalled the game because of this nerf so idk the prices of jewels this time. Also, if u will just reply to me that i'm crying and ranting that my jewel farm is dead my reply is yes, I am ranting because I just lost 130+m on jewel farm and now I cant sell those back with the same price thanks to the nerf.

[Oakmaiden]

I use to buy cracks 200 gold and weaks at 2k. Never paid more than 600k for a noble.

[Crystalwiz]

RIP all jewel farming. Lix prices are going down but no one will buy cause they don't work anymore. I just tried some lixes with my jewel farming tank and in 4 minutes got zero jewels, only got dark and light powders. I left when I saw that no jewels were dropping not even cracked. If you think jewel prices were high before just wait cause now they will cost much more. I had to laugh when I saw lixes were dropping in other maps cause they don't even work now because of your changes. Good timing!

Why not make it that the other classes can farm jewels effectively instead of penalizing those that farm jewels with zero return. We paid a lot to get the gear to farm jewels.

Doubling the elixir time to 30 minutes makes no difference if no jewels drop. I sort of thought it was a bug that the drops were nerfed to zero but will wait to see if this was intentional.

[Nu.exe]

I use to buy cracks 200 gold and weaks at 2k. Never paid more than 600k for a noble.

I sell weak fin for 1.9k each sometime but mostly 2k(before the nerf) and 2.4k(weeks ago). U gotta understand that mostly jewel farmers just get normal gears for farming while us who sell straightly to our buyers sell it for your price. I sell it straight to my buyers because I'm all good with my profits which will make those farmers who are selling their jewels in auc sell faster.

[Nu.exe]

RIP all jewel farming. Lix prices are going down but no one will buy cause they don't work anymore. I just tried some lixes with my jewel farming tank and in 4 minutes got zero jewels, only got dark and light powders. I left when I saw that no jewels were dropping not even cracked. If you think jewel prices were high before just wait cause now they will cost much more. I had to laugh when I saw lixes were dropping in other maps cause they don't even work now because of your changes. Good timing!

Why not make it that the other classes can farm jewels effectively instead of penalizing those that farm jewels with zero return. We paid a lot to get the gear to farm jewels.

Doubling the elixir time to 30 minutes makes no difference if no jewels drop. I sort of thought it was a bug that the drops were nerfed to zero but will wait to see if this was intentional.

Timekeeper map is a dead map now dont even think of jewel farming for now coz it wont give us profit. IMO the nerf is supposed to be for all class and it is to kill jewel farmers which will result for every player who have a plan to make jewels farm their own. Read it that even the devs dont have any sympathy if jewel farm is dead.

[Trolzerkeinstein]

In my opinion, the new system for jewel drops is fair for free to play players who cannot afford to buy jewels to upgrade their gears. The jewel gem and the jewel elix drop rate on the boss is pretty decent on the maps.

If players don't have the time to craft the jewels, then they can just instantly get one in the auction (that might cost more) if they are in a hurry to upgrade their gears.

:)

[Nu.exe]

In my opinion, the new system for jewel drops is fair for free to play players who cannot afford to buy jewels to upgrade their gears. The jewel gem and the jewel elix drop rate on the boss is pretty decent on the maps.

If players don't have the time to craft the jewels, then they can just instantly get one in the auction (that might cost more) if they are in a hurry to upgrade their gears.

:)

IMO the update about jewel farming is for gold loot farmers they can farm it while farming gold. How about us who spend hundred mil on jewel farm? I know u dont know the feeling for us jewel farmers, how can players even farm them if they need high end gears to kill mobs? That is just contradicting the nerf is to kill us jewel farmers while it is a positive nerf for gold loot farmers and other players who have good gears to run maps.

[Trolzerkeinstein]

IMO the update about jewel farming is for gold loot farmers they can farm it while farming gold. How about us who spend hundred mil on jewel farm? I know u dont know the feeling for us jewel farmers, how can players even farm them if they need high end gears to kill mobs? That is just contradicting the nerf is to kill us jewel farmers while it is a positive nerf for gold loot farmers and other players who have good gears to run maps.

No disrespect, but if you have hundreds of millions invested in jewel farming as you mentioned above, why can't you just sell that gear to invest in gold loot and end-game gear instead? I think that's just a bit of an exaggeration that it cost you that much.

I have done jewel farming before in [ELITE] Tindirin map as a mage, and I would get at least 100k profit in 30 minutes. All I needed was flame forge staff and magma AA, which was very cheap at that time. Today, those gears are cheaper nowadays. Anyway, what I am trying to say is, you don't need expensive gear to jewel farm back then. Then again, I don't know how the other classes work when it comes to jewel farming, but there was a cheaper alternative. Also, that was a long long time ago, so forgive me I am wrong.

Lastly, you don't have to play higher level maps to jewel farm nowadays. I believe Hauntlet map drops jewels as well. I could be wrong. I apologize in advance if I am.

[Sophiaaaa]

No disrespect, but if you have hundreds of millions invested in jewel farming as you mentioned above, why can't you just sell that gear to invest in gold loot and end-game gear instead? I think that's just a bit of an exaggeration that it cost you that much.

Because that gear is now useless and the price of it has greatly depreciated due to the new update.

[Nu.exe]

No disrespect, but if you have hundreds of millions invested in jewel farming as you mentioned above, why can't you just sell that gear to invest in gold loot and end-game gear instead? I think that's just a bit of an exaggeration that it cost you that much.

I have done jewel farming before in [ELITE] Tindirin map as a mage, and I would get at least 100k profit in 30 minutes. All I needed was flame forge staff and magma AA, which was very cheap at that time. Today, those gears are cheaper nowadays. Anyway, what I am trying to say is, you don't need expensive gear to jewel farm back then. Then again, I don't know how the other classes work when it comes to jewel farming, but there was a cheaper alternative. Also, that was a long long time ago, so forgive me I am wrong.

Lastly, you don't have to play higher level maps to jewel farm nowadays. I believe Hauntlet map drops jewels as well. I could be wrong. I apologize in advance if I am.

How will u sell gears if the price of it went down the well that fast? And who will buy them? I invested more on jewel farm because investing more will give me more profit than a normal jewel farmer (glint aegis, aa magma) the same as gold loot. Why should I run hauntlet for jewel farm if it wont give me profit? U guys are ok with gold loot farm because u guys dont know what we are feeling and it's affecting the game. No more gold to circulate around players, the update wants everyone to farm their own jewels instead of letting jewel farmers do it for them so they can buy it. Gold loot will just put poor players poorer because sts is killing all kinds of farming and just putting more effort to gold loot farmers and botters. Sure u have done jewel farming before but did u try now? how many profit did u get jewel farming now if i may ask? I'm not expecting all of a sudden that we are putting our efforts to our jewel farm as i expect to ur farming as well and STS will just throw us under the bus that quick. Jewel farm was years now and they will just say it it was an "exploit"? Why because they are introducing more weapons to us to take advantage of it for our farming? Is that illegal to make strategies out of weapons that are available to get? Btw im not exaggerating about investing 150m on my jewel farm so ill list it down for u and i'm hoping u might figure out the procs it gives.
Full precise nature jewels, (glint aegis, tank gears including artifact) all op armor awakes, glint set, arc ripmaw(bought mine 3m), dozer axe(bought it 46m), hideout deed, forest location, 25/25 crafting slots(mostly 500k each), 8/8 hotbar(500k each too) and op ms awake gear. Dont compute the prices for today's prices because as i told u it went down. My expenses on my investment is i just consume 500 hp potions and way more crafted weak jewels while normal jewel farmers consume 1500-2000 hp potions and get 50-65 weak jewels all in 1 elix, now ill ask u is that illegal? Ill tell u also why i didnt invest anything to gold loot is because mostly gold loot farmers are pure toxic. Imagine just not having an end gear everyone will call u a nab and want u to leave the map or if ur stats doesnt pass their liking(my friends told me). Sure hauntlet gives jewels does that mean it is profitable? Dont talk like u know if u havent tried jewel farming after the nerfs on a warrior class. Why should I rant like this in the forums if they havent killed jewel farm? And opening hauntlet for jewel drops will just make botters happier and I despise botters.

[Koruto]

May Jewel Farming and my Glint aegis rest in peace. Bought glint aegis a month ago to try jewel farming. Was a good 3 weeks before the nerf.

[umarrahim]

Any buff to jewel farming will destroy the jewel economy as well, since now elixirs are wayy cheaper and no specific gears are required so anyone can do it.

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[Sophiaaaa]

In my opinion, the new system for jewel drops is fair for free to play players who cannot afford to buy jewels to upgrade their gears. The jewel gem and the jewel elix drop rate on the boss is pretty decent on the maps.

If players don't have the time to craft the jewels, then they can just instantly get one in the auction (that might cost more) if they are in a hurry to upgrade their gears.

:)

@@ Its actually going to affect the FTP players the most. The Jewel Elix Price/# of jewels will cause players to hemorrhage gold.
If the system isn't tended to by devs soon, within the next few months we may see the price of the jewels skyrocket.

Although this exploit wasn't intended, it worked!
Usually, in video games there is no such thing as a "Good Exploit" but this is an extraordinary case. This system worked and did not negatively affect the economy.

It gave players who did not have Goldloot gears the opportunity to farm elite maps, open the gold runner chests and sell the jewel elixes they received.
Now, the aforementioned players are left high and dry.

In a game as Rich and Diverse as AL that has a plethora of things to do, it would be a shame if there was only one way to make gold (aka farming evg&dm).

[Nu.exe]

Any buff to jewel farming will destroy the jewel economy as well, since now elixirs are wayy cheaper and no specific gears are required so anyone can do it.

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How will jewel elix go up in price if there are no jewel farmers to consume them? No specific gears? for a mage and rogues that are naturally have high dmg that is. Can u clear morgera lair and gates without arc gear?

[umarrahim]

How will jewel elix go up in price if there are no jewel farmers to consume them? No specific gears? for a mage and rogues that are naturally have high dmg that is. Can u clear morgera lair and gates without arc gear?If it gets hard buffed...If u think clearly..... Anyone can farm them now, anyone can open 10k elixir and maybe make 30k off of it. Tripling their gold.

The elixir won't go up in price.... If it gets easier to farm then everyone will do it dropping the overall price of jewels. Now that elixirs drop from bosses, this just adds to what I said.

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[Sophiaaaa]

If it gets hard buffed...If u think clearly..... Anyone can farm them now, anyone can open 10k elixir and maybe make 30k off of it. Tripling their gold.

The elixir won't go up in price.... If it gets easier to farm then everyone will do it dropping the overall price of jewels. Now that elixirs drop from bosses, this just adds to what I said.

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When the drop rate was normal, fin, mind and fury jewel lixes (the most sought after) prices were 35k, 28k, and 22k respectively. And they all sold well as there was a constant stream of supply and demand from players. If the jewel dropped rate is buffed, the prices will bounce back up as players will start buying them again. They are only so low in auction because a majority of jewel-farmers stopped farming as they found it unfulfilling and not worth their time.

[Nu.exe]

If it gets hard buffed...If u think clearly..... Anyone can farm them now, anyone can open 10k elixir and maybe make 30k off of it. Tripling their gold.

The elixir won't go up in price.... If it gets easier to farm then everyone will do it dropping the overall price of jewels. Now that elixirs drop from bosses, this just adds to what I said.

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Ill ask u this again is that fulfilling? 20k profit for 30min farm? In gold loot farming 30 mins is 1m if u have 400-500gl or more. Before the nerf all class can farm jewels but only war class is the best to make profit from them. What I'm telling u is let there be jewel farmers to do it while others do gold loot so there is a circulation of gold. What u want is just gold loot farmers getting all the gold they want while poor players are trying so hard farming for months-years just to get 1 good arc gear. Good thing i started at easter event to have my capital gold but if not u think players will play the game? I dont want to the jewel elix to be buffed just stay the way it was just nerf the maps we are currently using. They introduced the jewel elix with damaging mobs and they made mauso witches to have dmg reduction orbs is that our fault to take advantage of it? Do u think everyone can afford to farm with gold loot?

[Pres]

Good luck to all rogues no Jewel farming = 5m noble fin xD I'm just kidding let's see how much will increase the jewel prices if the jewel elixir not going to change.... Btw. I can't say "fair" because the jewel farming is dead really dead it's like you are farming tindrin like before... Old day price jewels will be back xD good luck to all

[Trolzerkeinstein]

The point of this nerf, IMO, is for free to play players (f2p) to upgrade their jewel for free. Bosses drops jewel elixirs and mobs drops jewels, which means they don’t need to buy the already expensive jewels in the market prior to the nerf to upgrade their gears. They can just upgrade their jewel socket by themselves. Albeit, it will take a while, but at least it’s cheaper. The same applies with the awakening ingredients which had an increase in drop rate. It’s not all about profit, guys.

Furthermore, earning gold in AL is not only limited to jewel farming and gold loot farming. There are many ways to earn gold in Arcane Legends such as selling sack of orc tags, hauntlet, farming elite chests, events, merching, and etc. Again, it might take a while and not very consistent than gold farming or jewel farming, but it’s something to start with. Also, gold farming also takes effort. Keep in mind that they still have to farm for hours like everybody else to have a decent amount of gold.

With regards with toxic players, there’s an ignore and report function in the game.

[Crystalwiz]

The point of this nerf you say is so all classes can farm jewels. I tried some lixes with my mage in deep marsh and using 3 lixes at different times I couldn't even craft 1 standard jewel. Seems like nothing has changed with farming jewels with a class other than tank. Seems like the lixes are dropping but not the jewels.

[MiruZetu]

A way to save jewel farming is good drop rate n as will said.. drop til fortifine
I farm deep n i make 1m per house.. i used 2 lix but only able to craft 2 weak.
I drop some craft n damage but its too low?
I hope dev come up with some solutions!!

[Nu.exe]

The point of this nerf, IMO, is for free to play players (f2p) to upgrade their jewel for free. Bosses drops jewel elixirs and mobs drops jewels, which means they don’t need to buy the already expensive jewels in the market prior to the nerf to upgrade their gears. They can just upgrade their jewel socket by themselves. Albeit, it will take a while, but at least it’s cheaper. The same applies with the awakening ingredients which had an increase in drop rate. It’s not all about profit, guys.

Furthermore, earning gold in AL is not only limited to jewel farming and gold loot farming. There are many ways to earn gold in Arcane Legends such as selling sack of orc tags, hauntlet, farming elite chests, events, merching, and etc. Again, it might take a while and not very consistent than gold farming or jewel farming, but it’s something to start with. Also, gold farming also takes effort. Keep in mind that they still have to farm for hours like everybody else to have a decent amount of gold.

With regards with toxic players, there’s an ignore and report function in the game.

Farm it themselves? If they have to pay 5k fin elix for 1 weak fin jewel then they have just wasted their time for more expensive jewel. Before nerf u can buy weak fin 2k each directly to some jewel farmers and now they have to farm it themselves paying twice the cost. Just like u said there are more ways of farming but it is not consistent that there is a drop for the item they are farming (elite chest). Gold loot farmers farm 30 mins for 1m while other elite map farmers get 100k for maybe 30 mins to 1 hour. Is that fair? ofcourse not then they are forced to get gold loot too but it will take them months-years farming for a good gear and gold loot gear since most gold loot farmers are picky. I'll repeat again, before the nerf all class can farm them but only war is the best class on making profit out of it. What do u even mean by its not all about profit, u can say that because u dont feel what we are feeling. If everyone cant make a profit from farming then does that mean u should farm to get it? For example, everyone can farm anything but can they farm gold? No right? then how can they buy gold loot gears then? Going back to your comment, u want every jewel farmers to go back when they started earning 100k per 30mins-1hour. I know that u know items in this game is so expensive that costs millions while majority of players cant even make 1m a day while gold loot farmers makes millions a day. The point of the update for me is to be independent on everything which will result for gold to not circulate from players to players, that will be a positive thing to gold loot farmers because u guys are earning the gold but wont buy anything to others.

[**Lexi lore**]

Farm it themselves? If they have to pay 5k fin elix for 1 weak fin jewel then they have just wasted their time for more expensive jewel. Before nerf u can buy weak fin 2k each directly to some jewel farmers and now they have to farm it themselves paying twice the cost. Just like u said there are more ways of farming but it is not consistent that there is a drop for the item they are farming (elite chest). Gold loot farmers farm 30 mins for 1m while other elite map farmers get 100k for maybe 30 mins to 1 hour. Is that fair? ofcourse not then they are forced to get gold loot too but it will take them months-years farming for a good gear and gold loot gear since most gold loot farmers are picky. I'll repeat again, before the nerf all class can farm them but only war is the best class on making profit out of it. What do u even mean by its not all about profit, u can say that because u dont feel what we are feeling. If everyone cant make a profit from farming then does that mean u should farm to get it? For example, everyone can farm anything but can they farm gold? No right? then how can they buy gold loot gears then? Going back to your comment, u want every jewel farmers to go back when they started earning 100k per 30mins-1hour. I know that u know items in this game is so expensive that costs millions while majority of players cant even make 1m a day while gold loot farmers makes millions a day. The point of the update for me is to be independent on everything which will result for gold to not circulate from players to players, that will be a positive thing to gold loot farmers because u guys are earning the gold but wont buy anything to others.And also it's not hard to make a warrior lvl66 its just take 1-2days and it's only need night set arm awake and glint aegist or just glint and run tindrid while gold loot cost 2-3× price of Jewel farm gear and most important in Jewel farming no one will call you nab aghh

I'll already accept the fact that Jewel farm dead

Hahaha I'm just angry cuz today someone call me nab hahaha then leave

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[Hellsunk]

When system was first implemented the whole community cried out loud, it only became better cos of aegis glint and jewel elixirs, now price of jewels is going to increase like it was at the begining, 500k for a fortified. Price on jewels was fine it was really hard to go over noble quality and now is going to be impossible. There was no greed in jewel prices, it wasn't easy to get them. I rarely farmed them lately because I get a much better profit farming valley gates but I was hoping I would eventually get over full noble in another year even though the improvement versus cost is just not worth it. You are killing the system sts, in a few months everyone will be complaining cos the system was nuts to start with, there was a post when the system started of how many jewels u need for a noble and now noble has another 2 levels above it, it will take more kills to get full gear precise ewel than the amount of pve kills top players have in total.

[Remiem]

Moved to suggestions and feedback. Thank you so much for the feedback, and definitely keep it coming.

[Deathlyreaper]

The point of this nerf, IMO, is for free to play players (f2p) to upgrade their jewel for free. Bosses drops jewel elixirs and mobs drops jewels, which means they don’t need to buy the already expensive jewels in the market prior to the nerf to upgrade their gears. They can just upgrade their jewel socket by themselves. Albeit, it will take a while, but at least it’s cheaper. The same applies with the awakening ingredients which had an increase in drop rate. It’s not all about profit, guys.

Furthermore, earning gold in AL is not only limited to jewel farming and gold loot farming. There are many ways to earn gold in Arcane Legends such as selling sack of orc tags, hauntlet, farming elite chests, events, merching, and etc. Again, it might take a while and not very consistent than gold farming or jewel farming, but it’s something to start with. Also, gold farming also takes effort. Keep in mind that they still have to farm for hours like everybody else to have a decent amount of gold.

With regards with toxic players, there’s an ignore and report function in the game.

What do you mean by “already expensive jewels prior to the nerf”, it was so cheap back then and the prices were stable. I am not a Jewel Farmer, I just buy Jewels for my gears but after this update I tried to Jewel farm on my Rogue. The drop rate is incredibly low and is not worth any F2P player’s time. I am above average (I have 76 arcanes and hidden set) and I was able to clear maps quickly, but even with that the drop rate did not justify the time I spent farming. How do you think average or below average players will feel about this? Before the nerf Jewel Farming and Gold Loot were the 2 biggest ways to make gold. They dwarfed all the other ways that you could make gold. With Jewel Farming there was a constant stream of supply and demand, both the buyers and sellers were happy. Now that it is broken, Gold Loot will dominate. And the Jewels were great because it didn’t contribute to inflation. Now with it gone there will be ppl that farm gold instead of jewels. And you point about other ways of farming gold, it’s pointless when u can just use gold loot.


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[blingydaclown]

What do you mean by “already expensive jewels prior to the nerf”, it was so cheap back then and the prices were stable. I am not a Jewel Farmer, I just buy Jewels for my gears but after this update I tried to Jewel farm on my Rogue. The drop rate is incredibly low and is not worth any F2P player’s time. I am above average (I have 76 arcanes and hidden set) and I was able to clear maps quickly, but even with that the drop rate did not justify the time I spent farming. How do you think average or below average players will feel about this? Before the nerf Jewel Farming and Gold Loot were the 2 biggest ways to make gold. They dwarfed all the other ways that you could make gold. With Jewel Farming there was a constant stream of supply and demand, both the buyers and sellers were happy. Now that it is broken, Gold Loot will dominate. And the Jewels were great because it didn’t contribute to inflation. Now with it gone there will be ppl that farm gold instead of jewels. And you point about other ways of farming gold, it’s pointless when u can just use gold loot.


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[Anehazaz]

One of the reasons why jewels went up is because of gl farm and lots of events. It is far more profitable to run the gl maps than farm jewels..less people farming jewels leads to less supply. Demand increases and so do prices. The so called ‘fix’ by sts has compounded the problem and if you check CS it is reflected there. Also, quite simply, the easier it is to get gold the more prices will go up ..it’s simple economics.

[Claybear]

"jewel farm appreciation post"

I started jewel farming this quarantine. logged in with around 250-300 GL. and it was really a "hack & slash" game where there is no real strategy or anticipation in DM or gates(if u are a warrior). struggled to get skull aegis(50m at that time vs. 65-80m axe). sold some of my GL gear to get one(just to feel "not nab"). so aegis gave me some opportunities in evg, dm, maus(toxic players leave on the sight of my wep). so I wanted to play not being judged by other players. so I got on my old friend YT. and searched how to get gold in arcane legends. all showed pretty basic/boring stuff you should do non-stop. then I saw jewel farming and it was love at first sight. the complexity, the art, the beauty, the satisfaction, the patience, the anticipation, strategy, and technique of waiting for the dmg debuff, executing procs, bashing health potions, and ms hotbar ready when curse warning is on sight. I just loved it man, at 1st I would get 25-30 weaks. and played more and more, it was never boring man! so I thought about techniques and info i got from players. skull axe+glint then skull aegis+glint magma in between it was the main ingredient in getting 60-80 weaks. and thought what could make this better
its "MS GEAR" so i continued to farm what i got in total at the time for gears are 75m+50m+15m(axe,aegis,glint). then worked my way slowly to ms gear. played non-stop bought 30ms armor(7-8m), helm 25%m(7-8m), 18%ms belt (1.5m), nox set(18%ms each) 7.5m each, and alacrty arti 25%ms(40m) FYI the DEX based arti is for dodge boost and low DMG output if anyone is wondering and it really helps in crypt. so you do the math? it was great stuff my time and investments finally payed off but there was still a problem. no matter how OP my ms or my weps or procs were, I would always die time by time. I farmed deaths at the same time. so I bought 6.5m each lvl 76 end set with 15%armor. 7% drag ring(1.5m). also was able to buy arc werewiger for ms to boost my jewel production. so now what hurts is after all that. after my dedication to perfect my art. the "exploit" bomb came, maybe were getting 100 weaks per elix. but at what cost? 250+m(plus buy/sell of testing other weps/gears). now if you still dont understand my frustration I'm sorry. maybe you would never get it. it also hurts seeing a comment from a dev stating "I have no remorse for exploiters". but I came into a realization because of these updates. of how stupid i was to waste/invest my time to something so meaningless while I could've done something more productive with my life(quarantine is not an excuse). I can say now I'm slowly letting go of my addiction to this game. Never wish what I felt to be felt by any other player don't farm with ignorance. if you gain then you are doing something wrong. just like in the casino. the house always wins. :) thank you for a good quarantine time. it was fun and satisfying until it last. GLHV ya'll!

[Kaziscate]

I don't like the diminishing effectiveness of jewel elixirs when fighting enemies below your current level. I'm ok with jewel elixirs not working when fighting enemies more than 5 levels below you, I'm just not a fan of its effectiveness diminishing within that 5 level gap. I find it more fun to farm Festerfang with jewel elixirs than Hauntlet, but Hauntlet is more efficient than Festerfang because the enemies are at your level.

[Nu.exe]

"jewel farm appreciation post"

I started jewel farming this quarantine. logged in with around 250-300 GL. and it was really a "hack & slash" game where there is no real strategy or anticipation in DM or gates(if u are a warrior). struggled to get skull aegis(50m at that time vs. 65-80m axe). sold some of my GL gear to get one(just to feel "not nab"). so aegis gave me some opportunities in evg, dm, maus(toxic players leave on the sight of my wep). so I wanted to play not being judged by other players. so I got on my old friend YT. and searched how to get gold in arcane legends. all showed pretty basic/boring stuff you should do non-stop. then I saw jewel farming and it was love at first sight. the complexity, the art, the beauty, the satisfaction, the patience, the anticipation, strategy, and technique of waiting for the dmg debuff, executing procs, bashing health potions, and ms hotbar ready when curse warning is on sight. I just loved it man, at 1st I would get 25-30 weaks. and played more and more, it was never boring man! so I thought about techniques and info i got from players. skull axe+glint then skull aegis+glint magma in between it was the main ingredient in getting 60-80 weaks. and thought what could make this better
its "MS GEAR" so i continued to farm what i got in total at the time for gears are 75m+50m+15m(axe,aegis,glint). then worked my way slowly to ms gear. played non-stop bought 30ms armor(7-8m), helm 25%m(7-8m), 18%ms belt (1.5m), nox set(18%ms each) 7.5m each, and alacrty arti 25%ms(40m) FYI the DEX based arti is for dodge boost and low DMG output if anyone is wondering and it really helps in crypt. so you do the math? it was great stuff my time and investments finally payed off but there was still a problem. no matter how OP my ms or my weps or procs were, I would always die time by time. I farmed deaths at the same time. so I bought 6.5m each lvl 76 end set with 15%armor. 7% drag ring(1.5m). also was able to buy arc werewiger for ms to boost my jewel production. so now what hurts is after all that. after my dedication to perfect my art. the "exploit" bomb came, maybe were getting 100 weaks per elix. but at what cost? 250+m(plus buy/sell of testing other weps/gears). now if you still dont understand my frustration I'm sorry. maybe you would never get it. it also hurts seeing a comment from a dev stating "I have no remorse for exploiters". but I came into a realization because of these updates. of how stupid i was to waste/invest my time to something so meaningless while I could've done something more productive with my life(quarantine is not an excuse). I can say now I'm slowly letting go of my addiction to this game. Never wish what I felt to be felt by any other player don't farm with ignorance. if you gain then you are doing something wrong. just like in the casino. the house always wins. :) thank you for a good quarantine time. it was fun and satisfying until it last. GLHV ya'll!

I'm also the same as u bro, I invested in jewel farm more than gold loot farm not knowing they will kill it like that. I have the gold to go back a little in gold loot farm but I've lost interest to the game like what u said that even the devs says they dont care about us jewel farmers. And now they even confirm that jewel drops even if u dont kill mobs (somebody did) much as well still telling jewel farmers that they dont need us for that work, maybe botters are happier than everyone and they get away with it because they will never get banned. Well ranting about this in forums wont give us anything anyway since devs will never bring it back but it is good to let it off on our chest.
About devs saying "exploit" was it really our fault for having the intelligence for using that dmg reduction orb that sts made from mauso witches? Like why did they pin the blame on us and now that it is dead they dont have a single sympathy. They are focusing on the current players which most are gold loot farmers, idk anymore what will happen to the game but anyway it's been a great ran for the past 3 months and i have no regret coming back to the game even tho my main got banned I still got my feet back thanks to easter event but now it is really time for me to let go and move on. Thank u guys and goodluck sts and hoping u guys will know the consequences of your updates.
Still thanks to everything been great to at least came back to the game for 3 months and enjoyed it.

[Hellsunk]

After the last change the problem still persist, it's 10 times harder to get Jewels when it should be easier so we can increase the level of our jewels one idea I propose is to remove cracked from the loot with elixirs and get more weaks and standard.

We could also just leave the farming as it was before and remove the dmg nerf enemies apply on elite maus if that was a problem.

[umarrahim]

I feel even if we somehow figure out a proper way to jewel farm with the current version, STS will nerf again xD

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[Crystalwiz]

Agree the jewel economy is dead, forget selling fin elix for 16k, u can't even get a standard fin crafted. No one is going to buy any jewel lixes. I spent 1 hour with lixes and made 1 standard. This is crazy. Jewel prices will steadily rise and no one can even buy any jewels let alone craft them themselves. What really hurts is that sts doesn't care even tho there are many threads about how much we invested in gold to farm jewels. Luckily I have jewels from my tank cause i'll never be able to craft jewels the way the system is now. You would think that they would care but no such luck. No one was exploiting the system, I didn't see any complaints either about jewel prices so out of the blue u ruin the jewel economy. What's next get rid of gl gear so they don't work and say they exploiting the system?

[Nu.exe]

Agree the jewel economy is dead, forget selling fin elix for 16k, u can't even get a standard fin crafted. No one is going to buy any jewel lixes. I spent 1 hour with lixes and made 1 standard. This is crazy. Jewel prices will steadily rise and no one can even buy any jewels let alone craft them themselves. What really hurts is that sts doesn't care even tho there are many threads about how much we invested in gold to farm jewels. Luckily I have jewels from my tank cause i'll never be able to craft jewels the way the system is now. You would think that they would care but no such luck. No one was exploiting the system, I didn't see any complaints either about jewel prices so out of the blue u ruin the jewel economy. What's next get rid of gl gear so they don't work and say they exploiting the system?

They wont care about jewel farmers as long as majority of players are happy about the current jewel farm. I think sts need an excuse so that they can increase the max gold because jewel farm is one of the other reasons why max gold is 99,999,999.

[CHAOSSS]

They just updated gold to 999m.. its in patch list. Kinda crazy I never had 99m. I spend obsessively lol.. its hard being a Frog Lord.. 370 bubble frogs are alot to maintain.. ign Topfroghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200625/cd27a79d0522cbf1ffc808503cbae053.jpg

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