Vanities/Items returning each year

[Everlights]

Dear Cinco, I feel like there has to be a way to get over with the "items returning" problem once and for all. Since items return without us knowing which might return and which won't, and the items that return would probably be really rare but then come back and we lose profit, what if we receive some info about that ? For example, we can start sith the obvious events/periods. Winter/Christmas, Valentines, Halloween. Are the dedicated outfits for these events always going to come back each year? They came back each year so far from cold weather which was the very first outfit added to cupid and other sets. Are these vanities always going to be back each year ? As a suggestion, if they will always come back, I suggest their cost increases in plat and yes in a ridiculous way too, speaking of thousands of plat for example. That should have applied for the trinity and other arms this event but it's too late, and the "rare" things now are simply nothing. This question applies to other every, like this one we had armors with the trinity return, are they always going to return ? Summer outfits are they always gonna return? The ancient vendor which includes iron hand sets, glass masks and so on. Is that ever returning? Undead ? Bandanas for plat ? I feel like we don't know what's rare and what's worth buying anymore that'sthe only reason I made this thread. So far every single thing I bought so far was supposed to be "rare" but then later I see them coming back for a small amount of plat. Then I start looking for something else that is rare, grind to buy it and then boom it returns and becomes cheap. It's no good for merching to have only helix as a rare item, I don't want to grind to only buy a low level weapon that helps with nothing just to be sure I don't lose profit, and even that is still uncertain if you ask me, because the helix returning argument is one sided if you ask me. Bring me anyone that thinks helix shouldn't come back and I'm gonna make sure to prove to them that it should and they won'thave anything else to say. PS: ONLY 00.1% OF THE PEOPLE THAT HAVE HELIX AT THE MOMENT, ARE OLD PLAYERS. Everyone else are new players that bought it somehow when it was being sold for 19mil on auc when dark legends started updating, and the reason they sold this "rare" item was because items like bvh elder tear undeadhammers and axes all returned for plat. And a small amount of plat. Which was unfair on their side of you ask me. Anyone would do what they did based on what they saw that was returning. So I assure you the.old players that have helix which are the only ones that we should be speaking of behalf, are only 2 or 3 players. Everyone else that owns helix at the moment, never actually had helix. Just bought and got lucky because of the silly items returning matter, including me I even admit it. I have helix and I want it to return because literally every other rare thing I had, came back and I am kinda over it. It makes more sense to me to have it return just like everything else. Bring it as lvl51 and the lvl26 stays. Just like old black heart gems and elder gems or hammers, they came back as higher levels and the lower levels normally stay. Very simple.

And if anyone has any idea of what other events there are that brought us vanities and wonder if they'llcome back or not, add them below please cause I can't recall everything at the moment.

So Cinco, please. Enlighten us. It feels like these are lost causes. Whether it's helix or the vanities returning. Help!

[Cinco]

First a multi-part question from me: what price are you asking for Helix? What are you willing to accept for Helix? Have you lowered the asking price in order to sell it while still making a profit?

[Deusagor]

first of all i wanna apologize for my last thread mistake i was just mad at that fact that why people act rude just dont say anything if u dont have anything positive to say

anyways
u said that things should come back with a huge amounts of plat which leads to the point that helix will somewhat cost 30k plats because of how rare and how expensive it is as well as many have there eyes on it idk much and im not gonna say much.

but them theres also is a weird thing about how the item prices are in game 2bn 3bn 500m <.< thats huge amounts no kidding is there a way to fix these prices cause i feel like im in the stock market prices can go down or up anytime lol anyways....

helix is a lvl 26 item what are u gonna gain by getting it back 0-0 sometimes people who have em tell me its **** and then soon the sell it off just scream for helix ull get a response how much lol we have much much better looking weapons now as well as stronger ones such a the gelid which was a dam good choice plus colour by cinco and his crew.

just dont bring it back otherwise we know how dl players react lol(except for a few)

[Everlights]

First a multi-part question from me: what price are you asking for Helix? What are you willing to accept for Helix? Have you lowered the asking price in order to sell it while still making a profit?

Fantastic questions! First question: I'll be straight forward with you. I hate to say it, but if I am to sell helix right at this moment after all these events and items/vanities returning, I would try to milk the highest price possible from a buyer. In general, people ask for more than 2billion now a days.

Second question: It's a bit hard to answer this one, because you see there are no other rare stuff now a days that are worth accepting, in exchange for helix. Personally, I would ask for stuff that have the potential to increase in price later on, so I can make profit off them in the future~which is how merching works at least in my view in order to make profit. But now to be Frank with you, there is nothing worth getting, you see normally I'd accept cupid set, avenger, trinity, umm red classic bath, items like this. But you see right now I wouldn't accept those because they all returned for plat either several times or twice at least which means they're cheap now and it's not worth it anymore, and guess whattt I have sold a second helix I had for those items which means I lost so much profit and it's nt the first time, which encourages me now to not bother and sell the last one I have for anything and stick to it like crazy or ask for an insane price instead, because real talk someone name something worth getting now a days for helix and if I'm convinced. In contradictory to what I answered in the first question, I'll gladly sell it even if it's a cheaper price than what people sell for, I go for items that will make me profit in the future, not make me lose a lot of it.

Third question: I guess my other answers answer this one.. if I am to sell cheaper than usual in these circumstances when nothing is worth obtaining, I will never make profit because those items are cheap and will never get higher especially that they return and people are aware of that.

[Everlights]

first of all i wanna apologize for my last thread mistake i was just mad at that fact that why people act rude just dont say anything if u dont have anything positive to say

anyways
u said that things should come back with a huge amounts of plat which leads to the point that helix will somewhat cost 30k plats because of how rare and how expensive it is as well as many have there eyes on it idk much and im not gonna say much.

but them theres also is a weird thing about how the item prices are in game 2bn 3bn 500m <.< thats huge amounts no kidding is there a way to fix these prices cause i feel like im in the stock market prices can go down or up anytime lol anyways....

helix is a lvl 26 item what are u gonna gain by getting it back 0-0 sometimes people who have em tell me its **** and then soon the sell it off just scream for helix ull get a response how much lol we have much much better looking weapons now as well as stronger ones such a the gelid which was a dam good choice plus colour by cinco and his crew.

just dont bring it back otherwise we know how dl players react lol(except for a few)

I'm really trying to put effort here speaking of this matter so can you please at least comment something helpful with an argument maybe? First, No item costs over a billion except helix. Second, 30k is an insane plat number that you just threw in, you could have suggested a number instead of throwing in words. Doesn't matter the amount of plat it surely wouldn't be more than 1k plat because It has no reason to be, if you read what I've said carefully you can tell where I'm coming from. Which is not gambling the price of helix but talk about bringing it back at all instead. Red bath and blue bikini costed 500m+ but they came back for 300 plat. Trinity 500m+ but also are now 300 plat. You get it? We're talking about having it back in the first place not gamble it's price

[Cinco]

A cornerstone of virtual items’ secondary market is the fact that none of the items are perishable. If instead of Helix you had a thousand pounds of beef, you’d need to freeze it to maintain its value and then sell it before it spoiled. If the Helix never returns you don’t need to sell it, you can just assume that you have the equivalent of its gold value so long as its in your stash. On the other hand, if Helix does return and you’re holding it thinking that it’s worth billions you “lose gold” because the market doesn’t support your asking price. Here is the kicker tho: in every case where the item is not selling it doesn’t have any actual value (unless you’re selling for real money on the black market - but that’s a whole other can of worms that we are not discussing here).

You should assume that items will return. You’re here on the forums so you are aware that a growing majority of players are asking for the return of Helix in particular. I’ve resisted this because I still see a difference between event items and level cap items, but it is probably just a matter of time before everything old comes back and there are only new items in collectors stashes.

When collectors sit on items for years at a stretch it doesn’t help the economy, it makes new players and less monied older players feel desperately inadequate and it leads to widespread community initiatives to “bring back” items of value that only a few active players still possess. My advice is to sell stuff when you have a buyer that offers a reasonable price.

[Evildantee]

A cornerstone of virtual items’ secondary market is the fact that none of the items are perishable. If instead of Helix you had a thousand pounds of beef, you’d need to freeze it to maintain its value and then sell it before it spoiled. If the Helix never returns you don’t need to sell it, you can just assume that you have the equivalent of its gold value so long as its in your stash. On the other hand, if Helix does return and you’re holding it thinking that it’s worth billions you “lose gold” because the market doesn’t support your asking price. Here is the kicker tho: in every case where the item is not selling it doesn’t have any actual value (unless you’re selling for real money on the black market - but that’s a whole other can of worms that we are not discussing here).

You should assume that items will return. You’re here on the forums so you are aware that a growing majority of players are asking for the return of Helix in particular. I’ve resisted this because I still see a difference between event items and level cap items, but it is probably just a matter of time before everything old comes back and there are only new items in collectors stashes.

When collectors sit on items for years at a stretch it doesn’t help the economy, it makes new players and less monied older players feel desperately inadequate and it leads to widespread community initiatives to “bring back” items of value that only a few active players still possess. My advice is to sell stuff when you have a buyer that offers a reasonable price.

Cinco sir you said soon enough all old items will return back and I've two questions from that :
First will we be getting the elder blood stone of sprite, moon stone of grind and beast stone of drive because those are actually needed due to the minute number of tradeable versions of it because presently only 4 players I know own those gems and none of them I asked are selling at any price then also Gonzalo the vanity thief because you said he would return in a future event so I'd like to know if this will be soon too so that most of the glassmasks that are being hoarded e.g the royal curse and love slice's glassmasks can be made available to all who desire to collect them
My second question is , will all the items from events stop returning after all the old items come back ?
Hopefully you can say something on this because many of us are interested in knowing what you've to say about this

[Tinkerbelldoll]

First a multi-part question from me: what price are you asking for Helix? What are you willing to accept for Helix? Have you lowered the asking price in order to sell it while still making a profit?

People are selling helix for extreme amounts nothing in game is even worth the trade, it’s ridiculous. That’s why so many people always beg for it to come back somehow just like the other previous event items. I say you keep it’s rarity by only adding 50 helix in store like how some rare items are sold on Arcane Legends store.

Or u could also put it in a chest like Arcane Legends chest that give you a chance of getting it (making it really rare tho)

Also that gargoyle pet was a level cap item 🧐 and it was brought back in a different color...

[Everlights]

A cornerstone of virtual items’ secondary market is the fact that none of the items are perishable. If instead of Helix you had a thousand pounds of beef, you’d need to freeze it to maintain its value and then sell it before it spoiled. If the Helix never returns you don’t need to sell it, you can just assume that you have the equivalent of its gold value so long as its in your stash. On the other hand, if Helix does return and you’re holding it thinking that it’s worth billions you “lose gold” because the market doesn’t support your asking price. Here is the kicker tho: in every case where the item is not selling it doesn’t have any actual value (unless you’re selling for real money on the black market - but that’s a whole other can of worms that we are not discussing here).

You should assume that items will return. You’re here on the forums so you are aware that a growing majority of players are asking for the return of Helix in particular. I’ve resisted this because I still see a difference between event items and level cap items, but it is probably just a matter of time before everything old comes back and there are only new items in collectors stashes.

When collectors sit on items for years at a stretch it doesn’t help the economy, it makes new players and less monied older players feel desperately inadequate and it leads to widespread community initiatives to “bring back” items of value that only a few active players still possess. My advice is to sell stuff when you have a buyer that offers a reasonable price.

Thank you for the reply Cinco, I agree with all the points you made.

[Everlights]

A cornerstone of virtual items’ secondary market is the fact that none of the items are perishable. If instead of Helix you had a thousand pounds of beef, you’d need to freeze it to maintain its value and then sell it before it spoiled. If the Helix never returns you don’t need to sell it, you can just assume that you have the equivalent of its gold value so long as its in your stash. On the other hand, if Helix does return and you’re holding it thinking that it’s worth billions you “lose gold” because the market doesn’t support your asking price. Here is the kicker tho: in every case where the item is not selling it doesn’t have any actual value (unless you’re selling for real money on the black market - but that’s a whole other can of worms that we are not discussing here).

You should assume that items will return. You’re here on the forums so you are aware that a growing majority of players are asking for the return of Helix in particular. I’ve resisted this because I still see a difference between event items and level cap items, but it is probably just a matter of time before everything old comes back and there are only new items in collectors stashes.

When collectors sit on items for years at a stretch it doesn’t help the economy, it makes new players and less monied older players feel desperately inadequate and it leads to widespread community initiatives to “bring back” items of value that only a few active players still possess. My advice is to sell stuff when you have a buyer that offers a reasonable price.

Vykryth was not only recoloured but even worse. It was a drop back in previous Halloween events and yes I'm old enough that I even know that, it dropped along with the ghost and other pets really easy which made it become really cheap ALTHOUGH it is a level cap item (31) cap. So I guess this cancels the level cap item difference for helix, if it doesn't then I don't know what does

[Everlights]

Cinco sir you said soon enough all old items will return back and I've two questions from that :
First will we be getting the elder blood stone of sprite, moon stone of grind and beast stone of drive because those are actually needed due to the minute number of tradeable versions of it because presently only 4 players I know own those gems and none of them I asked are selling at any price then also Gonzalo the vanity thief because you said he would return in a future event so I'd like to know if this will be soon too so that most of the glassmasks that are being hoarded e.g the royal curse and love slice's glassmasks can be made available to all who desire to collect them
My second question is , will all the items from events stop returning after all the old items come back ?
Hopefully you can say something on this because many of us are interested in knowing what you've to say about this

Gems return under different names and levels, and that's very irrelevant at the moment, let's focus on the important things

[themythrise]

First a multi-part question from me: what price are you asking for Helix? What are you willing to accept for Helix? Have you lowered the asking price in order to sell it while still making a profit?Now morethan 10 players selling helix for gold. You know why Cinco, they want to hoard the gold atleast a billion gold. The scenario in the market is now becoming balanced. I aint saying fully balanced.
The DL market should not be an asset of some rich players. Indeed, who are all holding helix now days, they are not real old players. And they are not allowing DL gaming community to grow. Because,
1) when newbie player start today to play this game. That new Player cann't manage gold for Blood Packs initially
2) new player may buy new outfits/gold for plats, but still cannt co-up with DL market items.
3) The rare concept is designed based on the item by some players(item introduced year & whether it returns or not). If item returns, then its not rare.
4) Now everything returning... Why not reforged, recoloured helix??? It should come to balance the DL market first.

Cinco, now it's time to introduce the High Level Vanities. An option to wear different shoes/glows/wings. Customisation on character.

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[themythrise]

Vykryth was not only recoloured but even worse. It was a drop back in previous Halloween events and yes I'm old enough that I even know that, it dropped along with the ghost and other pets really easy which made it become really cheap ALTHOUGH it is a level cap item (31) cap. So I guess this cancels the level cap item difference for helix, if it doesn't then I don't know what doesAbsolutely. If vykryth can drop which is lvl 32 cap item. Why not helix?

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[themythrise]

Absolutely. If vykryth can drop which is lvl 32 cap item. Why not helix?

Sent from my Redmi Note 8 Pro using TapatalkSry lvl 31 cap item, Even Book pet lvl 36 cap returned in last event with effect. Why not helix???

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[Evildantee]

Gems return under different names and levels, and that's very irrelevant at the moment, let's focus on the important things
I agree but you missed the part where I spoke about Gonzalo coming back because I mean the glassmasks I mentioned are very difficult to get because many people hoard them and even when you find someone selling either the royal curse glassmask or love slice's glassmask you'll have to pay 300m at least which makes no sense if you ask me since the rarity of those items is as a result of hoarding and not because only a few players own them which is why I think Gonzalo should return too .I'm sure many players wouldn't mind if he returned to be frank

[Everlights]

I agree but you missed the part where I spoke about Gonzalo coming back because I mean the glassmasks I mentioned are very difficult to get because many people hoard them and even when you find someone selling either the royal curse glassmask or love slice's glassmask you'll have to pay 300m at least which makes no sense if you ask me since the rarity of those items is as a result of hoarding and not because only a few players own them which is why I think Gonzalo should return too .I'm sure many players wouldn't mind if he returned to be frank

I believe that that vendor returned enough times to be frank, it's been there everywhere and on many events as a side vendor

[Deusagor]

no one seemed to get my point but umm here goes nothing what i said is to not mess with helix let it be how it is btw the 30k plat i was just saying that cause the guy on top said a weird amount helix was a lvl cap item for 26 u dont get a small point tho

cause ik a few peeps who are working hard to get helix in their hands ahem

if he she gets the price 2b for helix and suddenly it pops in market how do u think he/she would feel cause on ur way to 2b u get majority of dl items but ur main goal was destroyed i think that bringing back helix is legit one of the most dumbest topics i have seen in game due to ur greed no doubt anyone can see that plus why dont u focus on giving ideas to cinco rather then complain all day on what u want :D

[Deusagor]

cause when i did give him an idea i had to comments saying this is a useless topic please close i was legit like LOL thats the moment i saw the mentality of a few peeps on what they think

and if u wanna know the mentality its Vanity vanity....vanity and not actual updates.apart from 1 event i enjoyed everyother one cinco brought weapon stats that was a dam good choice if i had mentioned the stats i bet everyone would have objected to it but anywayd its DL after all

[Evildantee]

no one seemed to get my point but umm here goes nothing what i said is to not mess with helix let it be how it is btw the 30k plat i was just saying that cause the guy on top said a weird amount helix was a lvl cap item for 26 u dont get a small point tho

cause ik a few peeps who are working hard to get helix in their hands ahem

if he she gets the price 2b for helix and suddenly it pops in market how do u think he/she would feel cause on ur way to 2b u get majority of dl items but ur main goal was destroyed i think that bringing back helix is legit one of the most dumbest topics i have seen in game due to ur greed no doubt anyone can see that plus why dont u focus on giving ideas to cinco rather then complain all day on what u want :D

Well at this point I think everything should return because if you're gonna talk about people feeling bad if they spent 2b on helix only for it to return then what about people like myself who spent tons on armour sets only for them to come back for plat during this event or my friends who paid close to max gold for trinity only last week and now it's available for both tokens and plat.
Already cinco has said that eventually all old items will return so let's just leave it at that point and keep moving forward

[Evildantee]

I believe that that vendor returned enough times to be frank, it's been there everywhere and on many events as a side vendor

Tbh bro idk but I think it came a lot in early parts of 2018 before I returned to play but I just think it should come back one more time at least for those of us who weren't around during that time frame

[Everlights]

no one seemed to get my point but umm here goes nothing what i said is to not mess with helix let it be how it is btw the 30k plat i was just saying that cause the guy on top said a weird amount helix was a lvl cap item for 26 u dont get a small point tho

cause ik a few peeps who are working hard to get helix in their hands ahem

if he she gets the price 2b for helix and suddenly it pops in market how do u think he/she would feel cause on ur way to 2b u get majority of dl items but ur main goal was destroyed i think that bringing back helix is legit one of the most dumbest topics i have seen in game due to ur greed no doubt anyone can see that plus why dont u focus on giving ideas to cinco rather then complain all day on what u want :D

You clearly miss out on the point, you need to understand I'm not here to argue with you and I'm actually trying to seek help/info about the market. You say how will helix owners feel, although first: only 00.1% of them are actually old players who always had it. Second: how do you think people who owned undead, black heart elder tear gems, hammers, old untraceable vanity and so on felt when their insanely rare items came back only for some plats anyone could afford ? This was my point, if everything returned except helix, it doesn't make the ones who have lost so much any better if we are talking about people feeling better here, if this doesn't make you realise something then Idk what would bro. It's not a dumb topic. Maybe it is for you since you don't merch or own major priced items, or lost a lot of profit before after grinding hard to get something. If it's a silly topic then you might as well just let us people who are actually interested in these topics be. Comment on something that interests you bro

[Everlights]

Tbh bro idk but I think it came a lot in early parts of 2018 before I returned to play but I just think it should come back one more time at least for those of us who weren't around during that time frame

to be honest with you I feel like everything should keep returning every now and then and being rich would be about owning and merching with gold mainly because I feel like this is where the game is going if you know what I mean. Since no items are that rare (aside of "helix") although this game was always about owning items that not everyone has and that are rare and this game changed a lot since then which is okay, changed to the better I can't disagree with that! But we also want everything balanced at the same time. I personally don't say bring this and that back because I don't own them or don't wanna buy from people, but because as I said in earlier comments, there is nothing rare anymore and merching feels off with the "might return might not return" factor if you know what I mean. I'm one of the people who only lost profit so far since the past 3 events as they brought back "expensive" items that I bought for a lot back then but now are cheap, and I don't mind it. I'm ready to grind more but it's also nice to have some support and information about things here and there you know ? That's all I'm seeking after all nothing else

[Evildantee]

to be honest with you I feel like everything should keep returning every now and then and being rich would be about owning and merching with gold mainly because I feel like this is where the game is going if you know what I mean. Since no items are that rare (aside of "helix") although this game was always about owning items that not everyone has and that are rare and this game changed a lot since then which is okay, changed to the better I can't disagree with that! But we also want everything balanced at the same time. I personally don't say bring this and that back because I don't own them or don't wanna buy from people, but because as I said in earlier comments, there is nothing rare anymore and merching feels off with the "might return might not return" factor if you know what I mean. I'm one of the people who only lost profit so far since the past 3 events as they brought back "expensive" items that I bought for a lot back then but now are cheap, and I don't mind it. I'm ready to grind more but it's also nice to have some support and information about things here and there you know ? That's all I'm seeking after all nothing else
I get what you're saying and I agree that stuff should return every now and then in order to sort of keep things balanced but I feel that eventually some items should stop being brought back after coming back a number of times and there's a good amount of it in circulation if you get what I'm saying. For example the cold weather set, blud mafia and black street sets shouldn't come back again since they're not difficult to get anymore cause cold set is about 50m or so I think and blud is 65-75m while black street is around 50-60m price range so those ones are well priced and since there's a good amount in circulation I'd say those shouldn't come back along with other vanities in that same category but yes it would be good if we can be informed about these things cause a lot of us took big L's in the past events and this current one too (I'm speaking mainly for them cause I'm a collector so as long as I get the item I'm after I'm not bothered if it comes back or not XD)

[Warzone]

first of all i wanna apologize for my last thread mistake i was just mad at that fact that why people act rude just dont say anything if u dont have anything positive to say

anyways
u said that things should come back with a huge amounts of plat which leads to the point that helix will somewhat cost 30k plats because of how rare and how expensive it is as well as many have there eyes on it idk much and im not gonna say much.

but them theres also is a weird thing about how the item prices are in game 2bn 3bn 500m <.< thats huge amounts no kidding is there a way to fix these prices cause i feel like im in the stock market prices can go down or up anytime lol anyways....

helix is a lvl 26 item what are u gonna gain by getting it back 0-0 sometimes people who have em tell me its **** and then soon the sell it off just scream for helix ull get a response how much lol we have much much better looking weapons now as well as stronger ones such a the gelid which was a dam good choice plus colour by cinco and his crew.

just dont bring it back otherwise we know how dl players react lol(except for a few)Helix is ugly and worthless and just stand there in street or sanctuary to flex weapon and all this crying over rare items returning cause price will lower is just stupid and make no sense at all

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[Deusagor]

Well at this point I think everything should return because if you're gonna talk about people feeling bad if they spent 2b on helix only for it to return then what about people like myself who spent tons on armour sets only for them to come back for plat during this event or my friends who paid close to max gold for trinity only last week and now it's available for both tokens and plat.
Already cinco has said that eventually all old items will return so let's just leave it at that point and keep moving forward

so ur saying it should happen to them as well i mean like wow thats one way to hit it in

[Deusagor]

but if helix does come back make it BLACK lol and stronger then any other weapon and make the EVENT DAM hard to be gold for helix "black colour* in that way no one will find it unfair how about that cinco

ps name it

HELIX OF GOD (XD)

[Everlights]

Helix is ugly and worthless and just stand there in street or sanctuary to flex weapon and all this crying over rare items returning cause price will lower is just stupid and make no sense at all

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It's one of the two. You have the brain cells of a peanut, or you just didn't read the thread and the comments properly to understand the point. Maybe you read and you still said that which also means you got the braincells of a peanut

[Everlights]

so ur saying it should happen to them as well i mean like wow thats one way to hit it in

It's not about things happening to anyone. I myself have a helix and I want it to return mainly because of how much I lost already over other items that were called rare but still got brought back for plat, so might as well bring everything back since there is nothing left rare anymore other than "helix"

[Warzone]

It's one of the two. You have the brain cells of a peanut, or you just didn't read the thread and the comments properly to understand the point. Maybe you read and you still said that which also means you got the braincells of a peanutIt doesn't matter how u put it to me helix is ugly and worthless. I said what I said cause I wanted to everytime I come on forum it's helix this helix that cry cry why isn't it coming back omg and that bringing it back for 30k plat lmao there isnt one item in this game worth paying 30k plat ppl crazy asf if they think ppl will pay 30k for dumb *** weapon that has no use at all

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[themythrise]

It doesn't matter how u put it to me helix is ugly and worthless. I said what I said cause I wanted to everytime I come on forum it's helix this helix that cry cry why isn't it coming back omg and that bringing it back for 30k plat lmao there isnt one item in this game worth paying 30k plat ppl crazy asf if they think ppl will pay 30k for dumb *** weapon that has no use at all

Sent from my moto g(7) supra using TapatalkThis guy is really crazy. He dnt know what's he is talking about. Lol. As per him, every time he comes to forum... Its helix.. That's what others want. LOL

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[themythrise]

but if helix does come back make it BLACK lol and stronger then any other weapon and make the EVENT DAM hard to be gold for helix "black colour* in that way no one will find it unfair how about that cinco

ps name it

HELIX OF GOD (XD)Bringing varity colors of Helix with original one will make biggest flash sale in DL history. Obviously, it also makes DL market balanced. New Era will be emerged...

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[Deusagor]

Bringing varity colors of Helix with original one will make biggest flash sale in DL history. Obviously, it also makes DL market balanced. New Era will be emerged...

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yes i surely agree with u

[Warzone]

yes i surely agree with uIf it comes back even in different colors Cinco will make it mad expensive ASF and it will be no different then regular Helix cause players gonna buy and either keep or sell for Max gold so are y'all sure u really want Helix back even if recolored cause either way ppl gonna cry it's to expensive and with this pandemic going I'm not spending money on dl when I can use to feed my kids so if you do decide to bring back Cinco plz make it as event reward

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[Malladus]

What good would helix do for the player base? All it does will liquidate the price and people would move on to the next item because helix is a "common" item and they will move on to another "rare item" to complain about. Right now everyone is panicking selling their high valued items for a lower price and tbh it hit helix prices pretty hard too. The prices on helix aren't impossible to get but it really rewarding items once you get it. If you bring it back, then it defeats the purpose of having this most sought after items everybody in the dark legend community wants to get. It's not just an item but a symbol & a trophy in the darklegend game.

[Everlights]

What good would helix do for the player base? All it does will liquidate the price and people would move on to the next item because helix is a "common" item and they will move on to another "rare item" to complain about. Right now everyone is panicking selling their high valued items for a lower price and tbh it hit helix prices pretty hard too. The prices on helix aren't impossible to get but it really rewarding items once you get it. If you bring it back, then it defeats the purpose of having this most sought after items everybody in the dark legend community wants to get. It's not just an item but a symbol & a trophy in the darklegend game.

You clearly skipped all the comments and possibly only read the title "helix return"

I'm not gonna repeat the points replying to your comment so just go read it by yourself if you're interested

[Everlights]

What good would helix do for the player base? All it does will liquidate the price and people would move on to the next item because helix is a "common" item and they will move on to another "rare item" to complain about. Right now everyone is panicking selling their high valued items for a lower price and tbh it hit helix prices pretty hard too. The prices on helix aren't impossible to get but it really rewarding items once you get it. If you bring it back, then it defeats the purpose of having this most sought after items everybody in the dark legend community wants to get. It's not just an item but a symbol & a trophy in the darklegend game.

Plus I don't see anyone selling their items "cheap" everything is yet still the same

[PrathamAran]

Yeah i think it did come a lot of times

[Malladus]

Plus I don't see anyone selling their items "cheap" everything is yet still the same

I never even said "cheap" so I don't know where you quoted that from , All I said, "everyone is panicking selling their high valued items for a lower price".

Adding does nothing to the game, it not an achievement title nor a vanity item, its a level cap reward for players who reached level 26. If they add another level cap reward for the newer generation of players, I'm on for it. It should be given the same rarity treatment as the helix and the firestar gem.

Yes, the developers did return the Harg Kyth, Axes, Undead Antlers along with the elder tears & Vampire Heart. The thing with elder tears and Vampire Heart that it was you needed 5 Million or whatever the asking price was to have first dibs on the gems. At the time it was pretty expensive but it wasn't distributed fairly and it was giving to the players who are wealthy who had the gold leaving other players out missing on the gem which I bet that wasn't the intention for the developers.

Personally, I don't remember much about the return of Undead Antler and the price of it back then but its a vanity item. For the Hammer & Axes, I feel like they messed up at their end and should have kept their rarity because it brings incentives to grind on Harg Kyth Domain & everyone has the equal chance to get it but its really hard due to their drop rate. Also, the Harg Kyth Domain has a bug and still continues to this day where it randomly crashes when it drops at times. I'm surprised they haven't fixed it since it occured for many years and it can probably be why its a plat item.

[Everlights]

I never even said "cheap" so I don't know where you quoted that from , All I said, "everyone is panicking selling their high valued items for a lower price".

Adding does nothing to the game, it not an achievement title nor a vanity item, its a level cap reward for players who reached level 26. If they add another level cap reward for the newer generation of players, I'm on for it. It should be given the same rarity treatment as the helix and the firestar gem.

Yes, the developers did return the Harg Kyth, Axes, Undead Antlers along with the elder tears & Vampire Heart. The thing with elder tears and Vampire Heart that it was you needed 5 Million or whatever the asking price was to have first dibs on the gems. At the time it was pretty expensive but it wasn't distributed fairly and it was giving to the players who are wealthy who had the gold leaving other players out missing on the gem which I bet that wasn't the intention for the developers.

Personally, I don't remember much about the return of Undead Antler and the price of it back then but its a vanity item. For the Hammer & Axes, I feel like they messed up at their end and should have kept their rarity because it brings incentives to grind on Harg Kyth Domain & everyone has the equal chance to get it but its really hard due to their drop rate. Also, the Harg Kyth Domain has a bug and still continues to this day where it randomly crashes when it drops at times. I'm surprised they haven't fixed it since it occured for many years and it can probably be why its a plat item.

It doesn't do anything but fix the market prices and make it make more sense just like every other item

[Evildantee]

I never even said "cheap" so I don't know where you quoted that from , All I said, "everyone is panicking selling their high valued items for a lower price".

Adding does nothing to the game, it not an achievement title nor a vanity item, its a level cap reward for players who reached level 26. If they add another level cap reward for the newer generation of players, I'm on for it. It should be given the same rarity treatment as the helix and the firestar gem.

Yes, the developers did return the Harg Kyth, Axes, Undead Antlers along with the elder tears & Vampire Heart. The thing with elder tears and Vampire Heart that it was you needed 5 Million or whatever the asking price was to have first dibs on the gems. At the time it was pretty expensive but it wasn't distributed fairly and it was giving to the players who are wealthy who had the gold leaving other players out missing on the gem which I bet that wasn't the intention for the developers.

Personally, I don't remember much about the return of Undead Antler and the price of it back then but its a vanity item. For the Hammer & Axes, I feel like they messed up at their end and should have kept their rarity because it brings incentives to grind on Harg Kyth Domain & everyone has the equal chance to get it but its really hard due to their drop rate. Also, the Harg Kyth Domain has a bug and still continues to this day where it randomly crashes when it drops at times. I'm surprised they haven't fixed it since it occured for many years and it can probably be why its a plat item.

If rarity is what you ask for concerning helix and firestar then you might have as well said that both should never have been made tradeable in the first place just saying and presently there's nothing rare about helix and firestar cause I mean every player who thinks they're "rich" yourself inclusive owns either one or both items and there's some players who have 2 or even 3x I mean heck there's a player who once claimed to have 6x helix so I don't see anything rare about something that happens to have so much quantity although it's only held by players whom as I said earlier think that they're "rich" .at present 98% of those holding helix and kicking against it returning are not even the 2012 players who originally earned it coupled with the fact that the og's don't have anything against it making a return so I say it should come back .after all there's a lot of items that are actually rare but most of you are just blind to see it .if you want me to mention I'll give you more than enough examples but yes it should come back cause it isn't exactly "rare" as you say it is

[Everlights]

If rarity is what you ask for concerning helix and firestar then you might have as well said that both should never have been made tradeable in the first place just saying and presently there's nothing rare about helix and firestar cause I mean every player who thinks they're "rich" yourself inclusive owns either one or both items and there's some players who have 2 or even 3x I mean heck there's a player who once claimed to have 6x helix so I don't see anything rare about something that happens to have so much quantity although it's only held by players whom as I said earlier think that they're "rich" .at present 98% of those holding helix and kicking against it returning are not even the 2012 players who originally earned it coupled with the fact that the og's don't have anything against it making a return so I say it should come back .after all there's a lot of items that are actually rare but most of you are just blind to see it .if you want me to mention I'll give you more than enough examples but yes it should come back cause it isn't exactly "rare" as you say it is

Totally agree lol. Instead of it held by new players now which makes absolute no sense. If it was to be rare then should of never been tradeable

[Mr.Sai]

A cornerstone of virtual items’ secondary market is the fact that none of the items are perishable. If instead of Helix you had a thousand pounds of beef, you’d need to freeze it to maintain its value and then sell it before it spoiled. If the Helix never returns you don’t need to sell it, you can just assume that you have the equivalent of its gold value so long as its in your stash. On the other hand, if Helix does return and you’re holding it thinking that it’s worth billions you “lose gold” because the market doesn’t support your asking price. Here is the kicker tho: in every case where the item is not selling it doesn’t have any actual value (unless you’re selling for real money on the black market - but that’s a whole other can of worms that we are not discussing here).

You should assume that items will return. YouÂ’re here on the forums so you are aware that a growing majority of players are asking for the return of Helix in particular. IÂ’ve resisted this because I still see a difference between event items and level cap items, but it is probably just a matter of time before everything old comes back and there are only new items in collectors stashes.

When collectors sit on items for years at a stretch it doesn’t help the economy, it makes new players and less monied older players feel desperately inadequate and it leads to widespread community initiatives to “bring back” items of value that only a few active players still possess. My advice is to sell stuff when you have a buyer that offers a reasonable price.

Yes @Cinco Sir, I have agreed with your viewpoint. I have in general , no idea about how many "Kriegberg Helix of Invasion" (Legendary weapon - Level 26) are still present on the game.
Now, if it's an old level cap reward, we cannot request it to be back for sure as per your perspective and we agree 💯.
"Prices are something which people are paying in actual terms." And it defines it's value.
I am a bit addicted to this game and definitely the bringing back of old items has helped newbies to collect stuffs which only the old collectors used to have before. So, thank you on their behalf.
Now coming to the point of this Helix weapon. So, basically it's a trash to me honestly speaking as we are Level 51 and buying a very low level weapon is not helpful to me ( neither in Farming Gold/ Kills nor for PvP purposes ).

If it's for showing off and self ego, it should have been made Non-tradeable from the very beginning when it was distributed among players to make it a signature of being an "Old Player" but, unfortunately, It was tradeable and that's where the problem begun.

Now, it has come such a long way after so many years of events and higher level caps, that it's not logical to say to bring it back for the sake of collection only because of it's rarity and it's value.

It's not a useful item like any vanity which give titles or achievement.
It's not an equipment which gives title like the "Lord of Storms" Set.
And if we want a cool looking electrical weapon other than Centipede, Khanda, Trisula and Helix, we can send our designs and ask for them on forum.
Let's not ask for Helix and have some more cool equipment of our high level and better looking than that because the designs of our Developers have never disappointed us before.

And if you want to see same shape as Helix weapons, farm in Old Town Cemetry or Fresnel Cemetry, you will drop lots of weapons in that shape and size & ofcourse without Electricity or else what will make the difference of billion sum of gold. Personally, I like those big Axes shaped ones lol but not gonna pay a sum of billion for a trash item now.
Rather, we can wait for better good looking equipments than spending huge amount on this and also, as Sir @Cinco mentioned --- "but it is probably just a matter of time before everything old comes back and there are only new items in collectors stashes."
So, I can assume that on some day of some year, that trash item can be back too as a better version for equal distribution in the community after how many years we don't know but "maybe" as a non-tradeable one. (God knows ? Lol)
Signing off, thanks for this beautiful Valentine's event, I enjoyed a lot. See you all soon ❤️