How people can be that much evil

[Kumsaati]

Its wrong idea to write here for me i guess.
Just care others effort

[Shadowfaux]

Calling someone evil because they want a vanity, yeah you're totally wrong. Conversely people could call you evil because you don't want anyone else to have these items. Personally I would just call you egocentric and selfish. God forbid somebody else get something they like without paying you all of their money...

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[Kumsaati]

Calling someone evil because they want a vanity, yeah you're totally wrong. Conversely people could call you evil because you don't want anyone else to have these items. Personally I would just call you egocentric and selfish. God forbid somebody else get something they like without paying you all of their money...

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I did not call people evil for asking for vainty, I called to people who does not think effort of others. If someone just wants vainty i also said that please think one more time.

I wanted to get heraldic and paid 50m(year ago) Also, did not complain or wanted re-release. Believe me I don’t care about the rarity etc I just care my and others effort. I do not have Crier If i get one will be good but not in that way.

[conat]

Nobody forces them to buy such "collectible" items and many do it in order to sell them even more expensive, few are the real collectors.






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[xXxrriottxXX]

I dont want drama anymore OP rigbt

[Snowman Is here]

Nobody forces them to buy such "collectible" items and many do it in order to sell them even more expensive, few are the real collectors.






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Nobody forces anybody to do anything, nobody forces lb runners to run or pvpers to pvp, it’s what we enjoy doing. Just because things become more expensive doesn’t mean everybody who’s associated with these items is out to make a quick profit. It’s not a valid reason to begin rereleasing items simply because it’s too difficult for you to get it, some owners gave most of what they had.

These items are not promised to you by anyone so stop acting entitled to own every piece of item ingame, if you are unable to get something then work harder.

[GucciBang]

Zeus, conat, Crier666, Golem, Hel, Huryamma, Oakmaiden, PostNoob, THE GOLDEN KING these persons are supporters of re release items and probably start to attack you soon. Totaly agree with you +1 to not release

you broke so many rules in 2 days, I don't know how it hasn't been banned yet

[conat]

Zeus, conat, Crier666, Golem, Hel, Huryamma, Oakmaiden, PostNoob, THE GOLDEN KING these persons are supporters of re release items and probably start to attack you soon. Totaly agree with you +1 to not releaseDear gentleman, my position is neutral on the reissue of "collectibles" if you want to get something exclusive for that there is the Lb.

Tagging items in the "collectibles category" is pure story to sell items very high prices and you know it.

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[xXxrriottxXX]

you broke so many rules in 2 days, I don't know how it hasn't been banned yet

Same as encyriptions does. I did not know that share forum name in forums is illegal but I know what i did is not a good behaivor I accept it and probably ban reason. I am ready to accept consequances of this. I do not like people as OP stated. Also I wont do furhetmore comment about these topics.

I said the defenders and will start to protect their idea soon.

I am taking break from game its above my limits and really gives me anxety.
please before me think a guy sents trojan links and not getting ban.

[Encryptions]

Same as encyriptions, i do not know share forum name in forums is illegal. I said the who are defenders and will start to protect their idea soon

And here you are talking about me again. Am I your majestic idol or something?
Just quit spreading lies about me. You know how annoying it is to have people pm me in game and on discord if I scam people, or sent "stabbers" to your house? Its ridiculous. I even bet when you made that lie stabber thread this was Futumsh.
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[Snowman Is here]

Dear gentleman, my position is neutral on the reissue of "collectibles" if you want to get something exclusive for that there is the Lb.

Tagging items in the "collectibles category" is pure story to sell items very high prices and you know it.

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Then remain neutral and don’t belittle collectors. The “Collectables Category” has been established since the beginning of the game and has had a very real community. If you haven’t acknowledged it before then don’t start talking nonsense now.

The only reason these prices has escalated to this point is the same reason everything else ingame is more expensive, this is the same story with lb vanity and other rare items. Don’t make accusations if you are not well informed

[xXxrriottxXX]

And here you are talking about me again. Am I your majestic idol or something?

I edited my comment bro I think I am your idol lmao week ago thing happend yesterday you attacked me.

[conat]

Then remain neutral and don’t belittle collectors. The “Collectables Category” has been established since the beginning of the game and has had a very real community. If you haven’t acknowledged it before then don’t start talking nonsense now.

The only reason these prices has escalated to this point is the same reason everything else ingame is more expensive, this is the same story with lb vanity and other rare items. Don’t make accusations if you are not well informedAt no point do you despise these players, but paying large sums for items that only show up a few times in a city? please sure he will be burned out in a couple of weeks and guess what: incredibly high prices.
I play since 2012 and I know perfectly how it is, if you have a lot of gold then congratulations, you can afford it. But I still maintain that no one forces anyone to buy such "collectibles".

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[THE GOLDEN KING]

I am really disappointed from this re-release things. People wanting re-release of Criers, Heraldic etc. Have you ever think for a second that there may be owner of Crier who bought for 500m? Did you even consider for a one second the effort that spent for a getting old item?

The persons who defends re-releasing of old items please think one more time. I can not accept how much selfish this situation is.

Vainty shards etc that can turn these items to the vanities is good idea. If we talking about equality let’s re-release LB vainties too. But i do not want re-releasing of LB vainties I know people who spent days to get some.

Correct me if i am wrong please

I’m with you on rereleasing the old stuff 100% including LB. Thats me saying this while owning a Frank Vest.

For those saying I’m a hypocrite, I’d like to know how? Considering LB items tend to be worth more.
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[xXxrriottxXX]

and here you are talking about me again. Am i your majestic idol or something?
Just quit spreading lies about me. You know how annoying it is to have people pm me in game and on discord if i scam people, or sent "stabbers" to your house? Its ridiculous. I even bet when you made that lie stabber thread this was futumsh.
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I dont use discort i never pm anyone on game about you look another persons not me. I literally dony care you anymore you even cant have enough maturity to apalogize from me due to the fact that trojan link you sent me. I did not message pm etc anyone about you anywhere.
also hahah great meme:saturn:

[Oakmaiden]

you broke so many rules in 2 days, I don't know how it hasn't been banned yet

Thank you! (Ran out today!)

[Oakmaiden]

Also ran out of popcorn and if I sip more tea I’m gonna pee myself! Bahahahah! Rofl! So entertaining!

[conat]

Me right nowhttps://media0.giphy.com/media/pUeXcg80cO8I8/giphy.gif?cid=349c9dd7eic0ydvq3cx8mh763n7extz5x7vj zqm4nv94h7yu&rid=giphy.gif

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[Snowman Is here]

At no point do you despise these players, but paying large sums for items that only show up a few times in a city? please sure he will be burned out in a couple of weeks and guess what: incredibly high prices.
I play since 2012 and I know perfectly how it is, if you have a lot of gold then congratulations, you can afford it. But I still maintain that no one forces anyone to buy such "collectibles".

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“Nobody forced you to buy it” that’s really cheap coming from people who are getting obsessed over these items, demanding sts to rerelease them every year. If you want to buy it then you have to pay the price, end of story. Everybody who owns anything of rarity understands this but beggars will always be beggars.

[Redjellydonut]

Im tired of hearing it...its greed all the way. Cover it up how u want but we can see through it. They are not rereleasing gears again, they are doing vanities. So please save urself the trouble and go farm some VANITIES while you can because this event is only one week [emoji2371]


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[conat]

“Nobody forced you to buy it” that’s really cheap coming from people who are getting obsessed over these items, demanding sts to rerelease them every year. If you want to buy it then you have to pay the price, end of story. Everybody who owns anything of rarity understands this but beggars will always be beggars.No words for this ._.

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[Zeus]

Zeus, conat, Crier666, Golem, Hel, Huryamma, Oakmaiden, PostNoob, THE GOLDEN KING these persons are supporters of re release items and probably start to attack you soon. Totaly agree with you +1 to not release

I have tons of discontinued items. My account is from 2010. I know the risks and accept that a discontinued item may be re-released. These discontinued items are different than exclusive items, yet I still keep them. When you own a discontinued item, this is a risk you have to accept. If you are unwilling to accept this risk, then I suggest you move away from collecting discontinued items and instead focus on exclusive items. Anything discontinued can go back into production, especially if STG needs money to improve the game.

When names were deleted from people's characters to free up names for people, I did not see anyone complaining because mostly everybody benefited. Bottom line, don't expect limited production on something that was never promised to be limited production to begin with.

[Analytical]

I have tons of discontinued items. My account is from 2010. I know the risks and accept that a discontinued item may be re-released. These discontinued items are different than exclusive items, yet I still keep them. When you own a discontinued item, this is a risk you have to accept. If you are unwilling to accept this risk, then I suggest you move away from collecting discontinued items and instead focus on exclusive items. Anything discontinued can go back into production, especially if STG needs money to improve the game.

When names were deleted from people's characters to free up names for people, I did not see anyone complaining because mostly everybody benefited. Bottom line, don't expect limited production on something that was never promised to be limited production to begin with.

Well said! +1111

[Snowman Is here]

I have tons of discontinued items. My account is from 2010. I know the risks and accept that a discontinued item may be re-released. These discontinued items are different than exclusive items, yet I still keep them. When you own a discontinued item, this is a risk you have to accept. If you are unwilling to accept this risk, then I suggest you move away from collecting discontinued items and instead focus on exclusive items. Anything discontinued can go back into production, especially if STG needs money to improve the game.

When names were deleted from people's characters to free up names for people, I did not see anyone complaining because mostly everybody benefited. Bottom line, don't expect limited production on something that was never promised to be limited production to begin with.


You can’t compare releasing IGNs to rereleasing crier and heraldic sets. One holds value to a group of people while the other has no real impact on anybody.

If STG is able to release everything (and they are) then everything of value is a risk of owning or investing in. This isn’t moves a company should make considering it’ll cause a mass conflict between players and Devs. There is many things to consider than simply looking at fine print when it comes to issues involving the community.

There’s also many other ways STS can make money than completely killing off a sub-community of collectors.

[xXxrriottxXX]

I have tons of discontinued items. My account is from 2010. I know the risks and accept that a discontinued item may be re-released. These discontinued items are different than exclusive items, yet I still keep them. When you own a discontinued item, this is a risk you have to accept. If you are unwilling to accept this risk, then I suggest you move away from collecting discontinued items and instead focus on exclusive items. Anything discontinued can go back into production, especially if STG needs money to improve the game.

When names were deleted from people's characters to free up names for people, I did not see anyone complaining because mostly everybody benefited. Bottom line, don't expect limited production on something that was never promised to be limited production to begin with.

Zeus I really think you are good person. I trully understand your point but as i said for a 7 years they did not return any discounted items(non vainty back), lots of games has these type rare items. Items price are clearly high and people made effort to get these items. I could not find anywhere info about whats exclusive whats inclusive whats discounted. I also dont have many collectiables probably worth like 200m. Are you aware of that there is same 3-4 people who always likes your comments. I think it also effects you.
OP was talking about the efforts that people to get these items. If they let this happen I dont find right to change price of 1B items to zero. Please understand me too. Why they are doing this to us? After 7 year

[almountajn]

Kumsaati bro every collectors must support each other. Thanks for posting man really appreciated it!

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[Zeus]

You can’t compare releasing IGNs to rereleasing crier and heraldic sets. One holds value to a group of people while the other has no real impact on anybody.

If STG is able to release everything (and they are) then everything of value is a risk of owning or investing in. This isn’t moves a company should make considering it’ll cause a mass conflict between players and Devs. There is many things to consider than simply looking at fine print when it comes to issues involving the community.

There’s also many other ways STS can make money than completely killing off a sub-community of collectors.

While name selling is against TOS, we all know most people buy their names or trade it for something. We can deny it, but that doesn't mean it doesn't exist. I know I get dozens of offers weekly to buy my names for ridiculous prices. I ignore it, but other people do not.

STG is not releasing everything from what I've seen. They are only releasing things that were common at one point and now they've replenished the supply. I get what you're saying, but the collector community is a very niche market of the game. You stated it yourself. If it comes down to it, they're going to pick paying players over some random collector that maybe makes a $20 monthly contribution to the game.

[Snowman Is here]

While name selling is against TOS, we all know most people buy their names or trade it for something. We can deny it, but that doesn't mean it doesn't exist. I know I get dozens of offers weekly to buy my names for ridiculous prices. I ignore it, but other people do not.

STG is not releasing everything from what I've seen. They are only releasing things that were common at one point and now they've replenished the supply. I get what you're saying, but the collector community is a very niche market of the game. You stated it yourself. If it comes down to it, they're going to pick paying players over some random collector that maybe makes a $20 monthly contribution to the game.

You misunderstood, there’s no reason to pick between which player will generate the most funds, either way it’s going to cause issues. The collector community holds some of AL’s wealthiest players, accounts worth billions, what’s the point of practically robbing these players when there is multiple other systems that generate more funds such as: Events, Mini Sales, Plat sales, Seasonal Lockeds, etc.

It’s not practical and STS understands this.

[Analytical]

You can’t compare releasing IGNs to rereleasing crier and heraldic sets. One holds value to a group of people while the other has no real impact on anybody.

If STG is able to release everything (and they are) then everything of value is a risk of owning or investing in. This isn’t moves a company should make considering it’ll cause a mass conflict between players and Devs. There is many things to consider than simply looking at fine print when it comes to issues involving the community.

There’s also many other ways STS can make money than completely killing off a sub-community of collectors.

Felt a bit irrelevant as well when zeus said that, but I don't think it was the main message he wants to convey.

Basically he's saying it's never a promise from the start that DISCONTINUED items will not get re-released but exclusives items like LB vanities or event vanities do however sts chooses to recolor them - they remain exclusive regardless. So no, it doesn't make sense at all when u say everything of value you hold is a risk of owning/investing.

Yes of course they are many ways to make money, why can't sts choose the easiest way that will benefit the masses and hence a bigger profit to continue to make the game better for all instead of doing something only for a minority that may not even have spent a single penny to help their business?

Don't get me wrong, sts may or may not have completely neglected the needs of minority, given that cinco explicitly mentioned discontinued valuable items will not be re-released but that's in their discretion to decide what items are considered as valuable, if you decide to hold any items "you think" are valuable, don't whine when these items actually gets re-released.

[Snowman Is here]

Felt a bit irrelevant as well when zeus said that, but I don't think it was the main message he wants to convey.

Basically he's saying it's never a promise from the start that DISCONTINUED items will not get re-released but exclusives items like LB vanities or event vanities do however sts chooses to recolor them - they remain exclusive regardless. So no, it doesn't make sense at all when u say everything of value you hold is a risk of owning/investing.

Yes of course they are many ways to make money, why can't sts choose the easiest way that will benefit the masses and hence a bigger profit to continue to make the game better for all instead of doing something only for a minority that may not even have spent a single penny to help their business?

Don't get me wrong, sts may or may not have completely neglected the needs of minority, given that cinco explicitly mentioned discontinued valuable items will not be re-released but that's in their discretion to decide what items are considered as valuable, if you decide to hold any items "you think" are valuable, don't whine when these items actually gets re-released.

I don’t think I mentioned recoloring affecting exclusives in my replies to zeus. I understand everything else he said but thanks for the rephrases.

Also it’s not about what “I think” is valuable, but items that have generally became some of the most expensive items ingame. These hold value to everyone not only myself.

[Analytical]

I don’t think I mentioned recoloring affecting exclusives in my replies to zeus. I understand everything else he said but thanks for the rephrases.

Also it’s not about what “I think” is valuable, but items that have generally became some of the most expensive items ingame. These hold value to everyone not only myself.

Valueable doesn't necessarily mean it has to be the most expensive. Prices of a valuable item varies according to how many ppl like them and how much they think its worth and also what was being hoarded more comparatively.

Take a oversimplified example, Items like captain axe and heraldic sets were released at about the same time (correct me if I'm wrong, I'm using this example for simplicity sake, any old item A and B would make the same point) but heraldic sets is worth more than captain axe for now. If this is true, regardless if sts is aware that one of them is more expensive than the other, to them, they are both valuable, hence they decide what gets to be re-released.

Bottom line is however the community values an item/however expensive these item are (which may have been released at approximately the same time years ago), sts gets to decide what would get released, and will likely go for the one more people would love to own for a bigger business revenue not the one that's relatively cheaper in the game just so that they don't hurt the veterans players who have been holding on to them.

[Snowman Is here]

Valueable doesn't necessarily mean it has to be the most expensive. Prices of a valuable item varies according to how many ppl like them and how much they think its worth and also what was being hoarded more comparatively.

Take a oversimplified example, Items like captain axe and heraldic sets were released at about the same time (correct me if I'm wrong, I'm using this example for simplicity sake, any old item A and B would make the same point) but heraldic sets is worth more than captain axe for now. If this is true, regardless if sts is aware that one of them is more expensive than the other, to them, they are both valuable, hence they decide what gets to be re-released.

Bottom line is however the community values an item/however expensive these item are (which may have been released at approximately the same time years ago), sts gets to decide what would get released, and will likely go for the one more people would love to own for a bigger business revenue not the one that's relatively cheaper in the game just so that they don't hurt the veterans players who have been holding on to them.

In this case Crier and Heraldics are the most valuable, in which most players think it’s the best collectables. These are also the items people beg STS for yearly, if you read Cinco’s reply it shows he is aware of which items are valuable and doesn’t want to touch them due to it being in circulation, refraining from causing any player drama on the topic.

Collectables will not become a system STS wants to turn into a new revenue source since it’s a system the community has formed in itself with these items over years.

[Analytical]

In this case Crier and Heraldics are the most valuable, in which most players think it’s the best collectables. These are also the items people beg STS for yearly, if you read Cinco’s reply it shows he is aware of which items are valuable and doesn’t want to touch them due to it being in circulation, refraining from causing any player drama on the topic.

Collectables will not become a system STS wants to turn into a new revenue source since it’s a system the community has formed in itself with these items over years.

Fact is it very likely already became a good alternative avenue for profit as we speak just like eggsavier elixirs this sounds like a vanitysavier to me.

To clarify, I was never commenting on which "should or should not" get released, I have been talking about "what's likely to happen in future" given what is already happening now. Sts could still be testing out mutilple alternative/back up avenues to make profit, and not to mention the pandemic covid-19 that might have impacted their business revenue and plans(Especially for a handful of people who might have lost their job or reduced disposable income due to the pandemic are likely to prioritize spending money on necessities rather than on entertainment such as buying plat).

What we can already see now is that sts is starting to make more new events and new initiatives as we speak. Although sts mentioned they are not intending to create such drama, any new initiative or event always inevitably leads to some dissatisfaction/outcry from a niche AL community. What I believe will happen is sts would bring back events (mini or major) that generate them more profit regardless of the possible, foreseen outcry and rant.

That said, I'm not entirely sure what sts would do, what I'm saying is IF sts were to continue on this avenue to make profit, what we will LIKELY see is certain old items that are more in demand by the majority of AL community (regardless whether they are either more or less expensive relatively) will have higher chance to be re-released.

[xXxrriottxXX]

While name selling is against TOS, we all know most people buy their names or trade it for something. We can deny it, but that doesn't mean it doesn't exist. I know I get dozens of offers weekly to buy my names for ridiculous prices. I ignore it, but other people do not.

STG is not releasing everything from what I've seen. They are only releasing things that were common at one point and now they've replenished the supply. I get what you're saying, but the collector community is a very niche market of the game. You stated it yourself. If it comes down to it, they're going to pick paying players over some random collector that maybe makes a $20 monthly contribution to the game.

Sorry, I am making monthly 0$ contribution to the game. For 6 years I made total 5$ which to protect my account by my bank infos. But I think the real contributy comes with playing for 6 years. Nobody play a game with 0 players. My contribution comes as being a good player hehe

[Garrus-N7]

OK, while many in here really hate Uller set being available as an event reward, to the contrary, i really want to get the set myself, been playing since day 1 and somehow I never got the set even though I always wanted it. (Can't really make a thread so im gonna ask here)

Can someone help me, or tell me how I can get/grind the set easily? I even got 110 plat to perhaps buy the pots for the event.