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Koruto
09-10-2020, 05:42 PM
I know this might break the economy or idk. Its just a suggestion to help poorer players get a decent weapon. Because atm, if u dont have much gear to farm evg or dm, you will have to rely on your luck and events to farm gold that is still incomparable to those with op gear.

Koruto
09-10-2020, 05:47 PM
In addition to this, players with lesser gear have a hard time getting to wave 20, essentially having no chance to loot anything decent in yhe event.

Aeot
09-10-2020, 06:04 PM
I know this might break the economy or idk. Its just a suggestion to help poorer players get a decent weapon. Because atm, if u dont have much gear to farm evg or dm, you will have to rely on your luck and events to farm gold that is still incomparable to those with op gear.That unfortunately won't work. If you don't have gear you can't farm well? Surprise!!!!! What did you expect? It's an RPG game. You are supposed to make progress, farm. Nobody made a character and already had full arc gear. You people don't understand that if y'all have everything then the purpose of the game is beaten. The fun and thrill of the game is these items and finally getting rewarded with them after all the work. Now people ask them for free which would also damage STS sales smh

PostNoob
09-10-2020, 06:35 PM
That unfortunately won't work. If you don't have gear you can't farm well? Surprise!!!!! What did you expect? It's an RPG game. You are supposed to make progress, farm. Nobody made a character and already had full arc gear. You people don't understand that if y'all have everything then the purpose of the game is beaten. The fun and thrill of the game is these items and finally getting rewarded with them after all the work. Now people ask them for free which would also damage STS sales smh

I've seen rich players around here ask for bound arc weps before...not soley the newer players.

QuaseT
09-10-2020, 06:54 PM
Well, for hardcore mode it would be awesome. Not sure if we are able to get tokens but last it was XD
But yea I can understand why certain people are against that.

Koruto
09-10-2020, 09:09 PM
That unfortunately won't work. If you don't have gear you can't farm well? Surprise!!!!! What did you expect? It's an RPG game. You are supposed to make progress, farm. Nobody made a character and already had full arc gear. You people don't understand that if y'all have everything then the purpose of the game is beaten. The fun and thrill of the game is these items and finally getting rewarded with them after all the work. Now people ask them for free which would also damage STS sales smh

Whats the point of having that steep progression curve when most of the players are stuck with legend gear? Quite alot of players are quitting due to the game being catered to those who purchase plat or players who have been playing the game for years. Imo, losing players is more damaging to STS' sales than BOUND arcane gear.

xsilentninjax
09-10-2020, 09:41 PM
Whats the point of having that steep progression curve when most of the players are stuck with legend gear? Quite alot of players are quitting due to the game being catered to those who purchase plat or players who have been playing the game for years. Imo, losing players is more damaging to STS' sales than BOUND arcane gear.

you do know that most people that ended up quitting also came back right, availability is indeed grindable and it is like that for all RPGs. Heck, even gacha games. Although it is true that the standards that new players going to meet is going to be quite a wall, it doesn't justify the fact that they should have everything handed to them, everyone started from 0.

STS is also a business within the gaming industry so it provides services within the game does it not?
in general you have 3 services; FAST, CHEAP, and GOOD
you'll be able to choose 2 services at a time.
FAST and CHEAP won't be GOOD
CHEAP and GOOD won't be FAST
FAST and GOOD won't be CHEAP

thats just how it works in society, might as well deal with it. If you don't like it then don't do it, simple as that.

Soyeonara
09-10-2020, 10:37 PM
You know what best suggestion from me?

Just make the legendary weapons with procs. Better proc like some old legendary weapons. But not overpowered as mythic or arcane.

Idk what makes the dev or anyone that should be charged to do the changes on the legendary weapons as should be, but I think legendary weapons with good proc will help the newer players.

Koruto
09-10-2020, 10:47 PM
That unfortunately won't work. If you don't have gear you can't farm well? Surprise!!!!! What did you expect? It's an RPG game. You are supposed to make progress, farm. Nobody made a character and already had full arc gear. You people don't understand that if y'all have everything then the purpose of the game is beaten. The fun and thrill of the game is these items and finally getting rewarded with them after all the work. Now people ask them for free which would also damage STS sales smh


you do know that most people that ended up quitting also came back right, availability is indeed grindable and it is like that for all RPGs. Heck, even gacha games. Although it is true that the standards that new players going to meet is going to be quite a wall, it doesn't justify the fact that they should have everything handed to them, everyone started from 0.

STS is also a business within the gaming industry so it provides services within the game does it not?
in general you have 3 services; FAST, CHEAP, and GOOD
you'll be able to choose 2 services at a time.
FAST and CHEAP won't be GOOD
CHEAP and GOOD won't be FAST
FAST and GOOD won't be CHEAP

thats just how it works in society, might as well deal with it. If you don't like it then don't do it, simple as that.

Going with that perspective, then why not add bound gear for a high token price? Say 30k tokens
To farm that much tokens in the event, you'd have to have to run 300 times. 300 energy kits is gonna take a while to craft for newer players, and with legend gear, players will get around 50-100 tokens per run. On average, it takes around 10 minutes per run depending on the randoms, so thats around 3000 minutes of running or 40 hours of gameplay excluding the time needed to farm and craft the energy. Now keep in mind this event only lasts for 2 weeks. And after that, the token vendor with the gear wouldnt be available anymore. Without adding the arcane gear to the vendor, the only hope for newer players to get arcane gear is to get lucky in randoms by getting decent team mates and getting lucky yet again by looting it in wave 20. Or grind for ages for jewels since quite alot of players have no access to gold loot gear to farm vg or dm.

xsilentninjax
09-10-2020, 11:30 PM
Going with that perspective, then why not add bound gear for a high token price? Say 30k tokens
To farm that much tokens in the event, you'd have to have to run 300 times. 300 energy kits is gonna take a while to craft for newer players, and with legend gear, players will get around 50-100 tokens per run. On average, it takes around 10 minutes per run depending on the randoms, so thats around 3000 minutes of running or 40 hours of gameplay excluding the time needed to farm and craft the energy. Now keep in mind this event only lasts for 2 weeks. And after that, the token vendor with the gear wouldnt be available anymore. Without adding the arcane gear to the vendor, the only hope for newer players to get arcane gear is to get lucky in randoms by getting decent team mates and getting lucky yet again by looting it in wave 20. Or grind for ages for jewels since quite alot of players have no access to gold loot gear to farm vg or dm.

by doing so it does open up a door for accessibility, but do take note that the ones who are better on assets, having arc gears and speed set, will be having it easier. Your solution just provided another problem on the economy gap if this were to be implemented.

Koruto
09-10-2020, 11:54 PM
That unfortunately won't work. If you don't have gear you can't farm well? Surprise!!!!! What did you expect? It's an RPG game. You are supposed to make progress, farm. Nobody made a character and already had full arc gear. You people don't understand that if y'all have everything then the purpose of the game is beaten. The fun and thrill of the game is these items and finally getting rewarded with them after all the work. Now people ask them for free which would also damage STS sales smh


by doing so it does open up a door for accessibility, but do take note that the ones who are better on assets, having arc gears and speed set, will be having it easier. Your solution just provided another problem on the economy gap if this were to be implemented.

Let me emphasize on BOUND, i.e untradeable. Therefore if u get a decent awake or op awake, you cant really sell it. If anything it will make it easier for poorer players to close the economic gap since they will finally have gear to farm.

xsilentninjax
09-11-2020, 12:25 AM
Let me emphasize on BOUND, i.e untradeable. Therefore if u get a decent awake or op awake, you cant really sell it. If anything it will make it easier for poorer players to close the economic gap since they will finally have gear to farm.

its already fair enough as it is, if everything can be obtained by BOUND then it will create a disinterest on the tradeable ones specifically for the ones that are already making the big bucks. If poor players were able to get at least 1-2 bound then the ones on the top will be able to make at least 5x that, SEE THE BIG GODDAMN PICTURE ALREADY

Terracraft
09-11-2020, 01:31 AM
No,why ppl always looking faster way,w/o progression,i got my arc gear in 2-3months less (farming everywhere lol),and,if something can be obtained as BOUND so,the price to buy it must be expensive,like 5k token for weapon,Meanwhile u got 0.5token each run -_-

Xyv.io
09-11-2020, 03:24 AM
That unfortunately won't work. If you don't have gear you can't farm well? Surprise!!!!! What did you expect? It's an RPG game. You are supposed to make progress, farm. Nobody made a character and already had full arc gear. You people don't understand that if y'all have everything then the purpose of the game is beaten. The fun and thrill of the game is these items and finally getting rewarded with them after all the work. Now people ask them for free which would also damage STS sales smh

Good point. There gears shouldn't be easily achievable at all. But yeah the awakes make them more than double the price so that needs to be fixed, sts needs to do something about the expensive af awake gems

Darkrai
09-11-2020, 03:46 AM
That unfortunately won't work. If you don't have gear you can't farm well? Surprise!!!!! What did you expect? It's an RPG game. You are supposed to make progress, farm. Nobody made a character and already had full arc gear. You people don't understand that if y'all have everything then the purpose of the game is beaten. The fun and thrill of the game is these items and finally getting rewarded with them after all the work. Now people ask them for free which would also damage STS sales smh

Sorry but if this game was an true RPG it wouldnt gate endgame gear behind locks or have limit time events where u have an 0.0001% chance to loot something good or nothing

Paktwo
09-11-2020, 05:11 AM
+9 and also bound arc egg and bound gold

reyals
09-11-2020, 05:13 AM
gold please :( i cant buy skratch staff :( :( :(
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