Honor PvP should have pvp kills

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I think this is fair since we have PvP aps. The only choice to get these aps right now is to dummy farm or buy expensive gear and try to find pvp matches in ctf tdm which are rare.
We as warriors may get very negative kdr in honor and 1 kill per match. Atleast we are getting aps from it.
Another idea is to allow duels to count towards the PvP aps since generally speaking duels are "PvP".

[arozalihd]

agreeable

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[glitory]

I think this is fair since we have PvP aps. The only choice to get these aps right now is to dummy farm or buy expensive gear and try to find pvp matches in ctf tdm which are rare.
We as warriors may get very negative kdr in honor and 1 kill per match. Atleast we are getting aps from it.
Another idea is to allow duels to count towards the PvP aps since generally speaking duels are "PvP".

+1


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[Avaree]

I think this is fair since we have PvP aps. The only choice to get these aps right now is to dummy farm or buy expensive gear and try to find pvp matches in ctf tdm which are rare.
We as warriors may get very negative kdr in honor and 1 kill per match. Atleast we are getting aps from it.
Another idea is to allow duels to count towards the PvP aps since generally speaking duels are "PvP".

-1^

duel kills will only fuel the DF due to the fact that room is 110% lockable no interruptions . I wish sts would allow CTF to stay open and not lock after 4th flag.

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-1^

duel kills will only fuel the DF due to the fact that room is 110% lockable no interruptions

The only reason I duel is because no one can interrupt the fight. Noobs want to 1v1 me in tdm then as I am winning they run away and call friends to gang me. Hence why my kdr is negative. Downside of duel is those wimpy nabs leave duel before they are about to die.

[Regifter]

+1 on the honor pvp to have the kills recorded

[Arachnophobik]

+1, literally was thinking yesterday how the hell am I gunna reach Warmonger at lvl 76.

Would be nice to have honor duels too.
Another thing that would be nice as well I think is to have something like how people play CTF these days i.e. nobody captures flags anyways unless they wanna lock a room, so lets just have a room where people could just go all out and clash until they're sick of each other.

[Willl]

Yes to add kills in normal honor (not ranked)

-1 for duels.. No need more dummy farmers

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[Thewolfbull]

A better idea would be to make it so 1 match won in ranked honor = 5 kills towards pvp kills AP, if anything it would make honor even more active and people would have more reason to focus on winning than getting kills.

[Arachnophobik]

A better idea would be to make it so 1 match won in ranked honor = 5 kills towards pvp kills AP, if anything it would make honor even more active and people would have more reason to focus on winning than getting kills.

I don't like that :< kinda devalues the essence of a kill:death ratio considering some people can get 5 kills even if they do less work than the rest of the team
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[Archugejackmen]

I think this is fair since we have PvP aps. The only choice to get these aps right now is to dummy farm or buy expensive gear and try to find pvp matches in ctf tdm which are rare.
We as warriors may get very negative kdr in honor and 1 kill per match. Atleast we are getting aps from it.
Another idea is to allow duels to count towards the PvP aps since generally speaking duels are "PvP".

-1 adds to the toxicity of the current honour pvp situation

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-1 adds to the toxicity of the current honour pvp situation

Which means it adds more players in honor pvp. Pvp is always going to be toxic.

[Badsha Khan]

Don't really think that kill record would be a good idea, in rank yea, but unrank honor not really good.

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[Arachnophobik]

-1 adds to the toxicity of the current honour pvp situation

All PvP with chat enabled has toxicity, regardless of the game.

Nevertheless, I think a hint of toxicity also has its pros in AL, guildwars for example keeps the scene active.

[Willl]

Don't really think that kill record would be a good idea, in rank yea, but unrank honor not really good.

Sent from my POCO X2 using TapatalkIn rank you need go for teamwork you dont go for kills so you dont need kills to be counted but points.

Secondly you cant get deaths if you get unlucky team. What if im skilled and I get noobs in pt? Definitely too unfair

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[PatD]

-1

The fact that pvp kills don't count is what make the dynamic of this mode, if it count then it will totally destroy the team dynamic

[Zeus]

Why not count Honor PvP kills towards the AP but keep the statistic hidden? A hidden count, if you will. That'll help the people who want APs without changing some strategies in Honor.

[EpicX]

-1 orrrr


Why not count Honor PvP kills towards the AP but keep the statistic hidden? A hidden count, if you will. That'll help the people who want APs without changing some strategies in Honor.

if this^ then onli +1 ..don't want more egoistic rogues there smh and dont wan't to discourage/scare whatver amount of people who dont pvp at all finally pvping at honor.

[arcanefid]

+1 for duels, reasons:


The majority of players who go for 10,000 PvP kills dummy farm them anyway.
It doesn't count for guild rank.
Convenient for me in a personal level.
Might actually make the number of dummy farmers lower.


Don't care about Honor.

[Willl]

Why not count Honor PvP kills towards the AP but keep the statistic hidden? A hidden count, if you will. That'll help the people who want APs without changing some strategies in Honor.That might be an half solution, altough I still would like to earn kills by killing in normal honor

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[Arachnophobik]

That might be an half solution, altough I still would like to earn kills by killing in normal honor

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Likewise. I'm conflicted out of all responses since everyone has valid points. I do like the idea of the KDR, I think it teaches people not to be reckless and it seperates good from bad players by knowing whether they prioritize their record, or their team. But at the same time I cant deny the fact it can demoralize some players who got a negative kdr, prevent people from playing "the right way" (but imo it works both ways as figuring out how to play your best and overcoming insecurities mentally is part of the pvp learning curve), and ofc it encourages dummy farming.

I think it'll be better if we just get a non ranked honor ctf that gets counted on ctf kills. This way we dont touch the honor strategies, ctf will again become the "goto" for guild wars and we can get aps, and people can play however they want without having to worry about the imbalances that comes with normal endgame ctf.



Edit: Guys keep it civil, lets not get this thread locked, the inputs from things like these are what drives the community

[Avaree]

A better idea would be to make it so 1 match won in ranked honor = 5 kills towards pvp kills AP, if anything it would make honor even more active and people would have more reason to focus on winning than getting kills.

That would apply to the entire winning team, so many kills per player ? If so great idea.

[Avaree]

Why not count Honor PvP kills towards the AP but keep the statistic hidden? A hidden count, if you will. That'll help the people who want APs without changing some strategies in Honor.

Hiding DF statistics? How will that help lol.

[reyals]

Lol this can actually be translated in "I need dummy to get 10k pvp kills aps but Im lazy to lv up one and so I wanted get dummy kills by a friend killing him in duels since it will not affect him and his guild, all this cause I m not a pvper".

Is that too hard give opinions that benefits game and not only your personal interests?

And by this way dummy farmers will not lower, just will split into 2 different way of dummies, and in duels you not gonna see them.

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Hey garbage, when will you rename your useless guild to trash sharks? its availible now for 100plat only :)

[Remiem]

Keep it friendly please! :) Love, Your friendly neighborhood Remiem