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Ilove_Poopoo
11-17-2020, 08:32 PM
Considering that theres about a week left for Bday, it would be nice to have them in store for plats on the weekends.

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Killerjam
11-17-2020, 08:39 PM
+1


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Thaze
11-17-2020, 08:55 PM
It would be nice, i havent seen any of these pets for sale
+1!

Encryptions
11-17-2020, 09:04 PM
Haven't seen a single egg for any of them. Would be good to add to the store.

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firebelt & crystalkiller
11-17-2020, 11:39 PM
+1
Man I wanna try precious.
seen ppl offer over 100m for it and not able to find one. :sAAAdge:




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Deathlyreaper
11-18-2020, 01:29 AM
+999999
please they’re hardly around


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Mojos
11-18-2020, 02:30 AM
+10 for 200plats !?

i like the bad *** looking guapo...

Ilove_Poopoo
11-18-2020, 09:37 PM
I guess its too late now that they've released todays teaser for this week.

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Rihc
11-19-2020, 03:51 AM
+1, i cant even understand why is it 100m+ knowing that groucho and heroic fatima has better aa and passive lol

firebelt & crystalkiller
11-19-2020, 03:53 AM
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reyals
11-19-2020, 03:59 AM
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It's not how stacking dmg reduce count. Elixir 25%dmg reduce + precious stats will give you 43,75% dmg reduce

firebelt & crystalkiller
11-19-2020, 04:00 AM
It's not how stacking dmg reduce count. Elixir 25%dmg reduce + precious stats will give you 43,75% dmg reduceHwd u calculate that.. Isn't it straight 50%.
With armors 80%+ another 20%/.5 so total of 90%dr?thats what I thought

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Ilove_Poopoo
11-19-2020, 04:16 AM
Hwd u calculate that.. Isn't it straight 50%.
With armors 80%+ another 20%/.5 so total of 90%dr?thats what I thought

Sent from my MAR-LX1A using TapatalkDamage Reduction partnered up with a (stacking)Dmg Reduction source (lv76 Belt Proc, Arc Arie AA, Arc Precious HB), their calculation would be multiplicative not additive.

You get hit by 1000 damage while u posses Arc Precious + 25% dmg reduce lix would result to 1000*(0.75)*(0.75) = 562.5 dmg. Not 1000*(0.5) = 500 dmg.

In the case of two (stacking)Dmg reduction sources, for example Arc Arie AA + Arc Precious Hb, then yes, they're added and would result to 40% damage reduction.

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firebelt & crystalkiller
11-19-2020, 04:18 AM
In the possession of the 25% Dmg reduction elixir (non - stacking) and a (stacking)Dmg Reduction source (lv76 Belt Proc, Arc Arie AA, Arc Precious HB), their influence to would be multiplicative not additive.

You get hit by 1000 damage while u posses Arc Precious + 25% dmg reduce lix would result to 1000*(0.75)*(0.75) = 562.5 dmg

In the case of two (stacking)Dmg reduction sources, for example Arc Arie AA + Arc Precious Hb, then yes they're added and would result to 40% damage reduction.

Sent from my SM-N975F using TapatalkAw.. Nice..
Still that's dope ryt.. In comparison with let's say arc taika.. It has better other stats as well as the Dr seems better than 20%hp

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Rihc
11-19-2020, 05:30 AM
sorry i was wrong on what i said earlier, didnt see that arcanite precious damage reduce stacks

IExposedYou
11-19-2020, 06:07 AM
Aw.. Nice..
Still that's dope ryt.. In comparison with let's say arc taika.. It has better other stats as well as the Dr seems better than 20%hp

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That’s something we have to find out. Can someone run evg solo with arc taika hb and then again with arc precious hb? And tell us your honest opinion about whether 20%hp of arc taika is better than 25%damage reduction (stacking) of arc precious? You need to use the 25%damage reduction elixir too for both runs. Much appreciated!

Ilove_Poopoo
11-19-2020, 06:13 AM
That’s something we have to find out. Can someone run evg solo with arc taika hb and then again with arc precious hb? And tell us your honest opinion about whether 20%hp of arc taika is better than 25%damage reduction (stacking) of arc precious? You need to use the 25%damage reduction elixir too for both runs. Much appreciated!I'll give you another scenario instead. During the Dragkin Temple event at around wave 100+, a friend stands at 33k hp w/ arc taika and dmg reduce lix.

The mob throwing spear still ended him in 1 shot. That being said, lets assume the mob inflicted 33k dmg, and with Arc Precious that 33k dmg would've been lowered to 24.75k.

Arc Precious - 28-29k hp, gets hit by 24.75k dmg and survives.

Arc Taika - 33k hp but dies



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bestmage
11-19-2020, 06:17 AM
That’s something we have to find out. Can someone run evg solo with arc taika hb and then again with arc precious hb? And tell us your honest opinion about whether 20%hp of arc taika is better than 25%damage reduction (stacking) of arc precious? You need to use the 25%damage reduction elixir too for both runs. Much appreciated!

even arc shog is better with 15% dmg reduce than taika


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Ilove_Poopoo
11-19-2020, 06:19 AM
even arc shog is better with 15% dmg reduce than taika


Sent from my iPhone using TapatalkArc shogs 15% dmg reduce is neglected, ideally players pop up a dmg reduce lix.

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firebelt & crystalkiller
11-19-2020, 06:42 AM
even arc shog is better with 15% dmg reduce than taika


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bestmage
11-19-2020, 07:02 AM
Not stacking

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I dont talk about dmg


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IExposedYou
11-19-2020, 07:11 AM
I'll give you another scenario instead. During the Dragkin Temple event at around wave 100+, a friend stands at 33k hp w/ arc taika and dmg reduce lix.

The mob throwing spear still ended him in 1 shot. That being said, lets assume the mob inflicted 33k dmg, and with Arc Precious that 33k dmg would've been lowered to 24.75k.

Arc Precious - 28-29k hp, gets hit by 24.75k dmg and survives.

Arc Taika - 33k hp but dies



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Ok then it seems arc precious with its stacking dmg reduction is better than arc taika’s hp boost for wave like events. No wonder players are paying 100m when it’s the best pet now in pve since it gives stacking Damage and stacking damage reduction; assuming the players are using dmg reduction elixirs all the time

firebelt & crystalkiller
11-19-2020, 07:14 AM
I dont talk about dmg


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The 15% damage red from arc shogg is useless in pve bcuz its ignored when u use elixir as its not stacking.. So it's a pvp pet

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bestmage
11-19-2020, 07:22 AM
Same...
The 15% damage red from arc shogg is useless in pve bcuz its ignored when u use elixir as its not stacking.. So it's a pvp pet

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I never use lix thats why xd


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Nexior
11-19-2020, 07:26 AM
+1 havent seen that pet in ah yet @@

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firebelt & crystalkiller
11-19-2020, 07:40 AM
I never use lix thats why xd


Sent from my iPhone using TapatalkIn evg if u try lb its quite needed.. If just running with a good war mb its not needed cuz he will tank them right.

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Analytical
11-19-2020, 07:51 AM
Damage Reduction partnered up with a (stacking)Dmg Reduction source (lv76 Belt Proc, Arc Arie AA, Arc Precious HB), their calculation would be multiplicative not additive.

You get hit by 1000 damage while u posses Arc Precious + 25% dmg reduce lix would result to 1000*(0.75)*(0.75) = 562.5 dmg. Not 1000*(0.5) = 500 dmg.

In the case of two (stacking)Dmg reduction sources, for example Arc Arie AA + Arc Precious Hb, then yes, they're added and would result to 40% damage reduction.

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Does that mean if you have Arc Arie AA + Arc Precious Hb + 25%dmg reduction Elixir it's 1000*(0.5)*(0.75) instead of 1000*(0.75)? How did you come up with the conclusion that damage elixir stacks differently compared with HB/Gears?

Ilove_Poopoo
11-19-2020, 07:56 AM
Does that mean if you have Arc Arie AA + Arc Precious Hb + 25%dmg reduction Elixir it's 1000*(0.5)*(0.75) instead of 1000*(0.75)? How did you come up with the conclusion that damage elixir stacks differently compared with HB/Gears?Arc arie + Precious hb, since they are both stacking type, they add. For non stacking dmg reduction source they'll be multiplied instead.

Arie + precious + lix results to 1000(0.75)(0.60).

The conclusion came from actual tests.

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Analytical
11-19-2020, 08:12 AM
Arc arie + Precious hb, since they are both stacking type, they add. For non stacking dmg reduction source they'll be multiplied instead.

Arie + precious + lix results to 1000(0.75)(0.60).

The conclusion came from actual tests.

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Ahh I see, good to know you have tested it. I previously thought(read somewhere) Elixir stacks(adds) to HB/gears lol

P. S. You made a typo it's 1000(0.75)(0.5)

Ilove_Poopoo
11-19-2020, 08:13 AM
Ahh I see, good to know you have tested it. I previously thought(read somewhere) Elixir stacks(adds) to HB/gears lol

P. S. You made a typo it's 1000(0.75)(0.5)Not a typo. Arie Precious provides 15 and 25 respectively.

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Analytical
11-19-2020, 08:14 AM
Not a typo. Arie Precious provides 15 and 25 respectively.

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Oops my bad XD

IExposedYou
11-19-2020, 08:42 AM
Considering that theres about a week left for Bday, it would be nice to have them in store for plats on the weekends.

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I noticed you sold your egg. Did you try using it before? How do you like its hb?

Ilove_Poopoo
11-19-2020, 08:58 AM
I noticed you sold your egg. Did you try using it before? How do you like its hb?This pet is best suited for temple events and Pvp brackets.

Needless to say, this ain't practical for Evg/Deep not only because of its cost, but better alternatives like Armored Zhulong would still be best for Evg due to its dmg output in my opinion.

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IExposedYou
11-19-2020, 09:03 AM
This pet is best suited for temple events and Pvp brackets.

Needless to say, this ain't practical for Evg/Deep not only because of its cost, but better alternatives like Armored Zhulong would still be best for Evg due to its dmg output in my opinion.

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Thank you for your honest opinion!

swoutttt
11-19-2020, 11:46 AM
Arc precious hb + mephisto aa is to op imo. 55%dmg +50all stats and 75%dmg reduction :/

reyals
11-19-2020, 12:08 PM
Arc precious hb + mephisto aa is to op imo. 55%dmg +50all stats and 75%dmg reduction :/

how did you count 55%dmg. mephisto aa gives +50% 'not stacking' dmg, with arc precious hb it should add 87,5%dmg

Encryptions
11-19-2020, 05:19 PM
This pet is best suited for temple events and Pvp brackets.

Needless to say, this ain't practical for Evg/Deep not only because of its cost, but better alternatives like Armored Zhulong would still be best for Evg due to its dmg output in my opinion.

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Yeah in evg mages and rogues only need full bd. Do not use armor health awakes because its useless. Warrior solos small enemies and taunts bosses keeping them piled as mage and rog attack from a distance. Even if they did have good armor and hp they still get 1 shot. Im war and even on wave 86~ I get one shot by the main bosses unblockable grenade attack.
Unblockable by hit no matter what unless shield is on.

Tackled
11-19-2020, 05:26 PM
Noooo everything hard to achieve, people automatically resort to buying it for plat


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