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Rich_rogue
02-22-2021, 08:58 AM
Im going to make 1b raffle 10m per ticket. 1st 300m 2st 200m 3st 100m. Want to profit 500m gold because sts allowed for that. Ty


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aquilez
02-22-2021, 09:15 AM
Hahaha nice bro +1

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Rich_rogue
02-22-2021, 10:12 AM
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Mythocrisis
02-22-2021, 11:41 AM
Many of my friends lost tons of gold and didn't even get a reply.
All of them are spamming those messages everywhere.
But looks like raffles are legit.Please team be unbiased.

Lookupnabs
02-22-2021, 01:07 PM
Im going to make 1b raffle 10m per ticket. 1st 300m 2st 200m 3st 100m. Want to profit 500m gold because sts allowed for that. Ty


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Well known lowballer toxic and insensitive defaulter ....

Rich_rogue
02-22-2021, 06:44 PM
Well known lowballer toxic and insensitive defaulter ....

how u know that?


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Arcane Ziix
02-22-2021, 08:04 PM
If people want to participate, its their choice. Marsuu/Warriorexcile have youtube channels and have spent a lot of time to organise the raffles and live stream them for hours. (It's not a big deal if the people organising it make some gold too, especially after having prizes of 300m)

Nobody forces people to buy tickets for the raffle. It's a risk that belongs to the person buying it.
It isn't as easy as it seems to organise because not everyone wants to risk gold to participate.

I was a part of the raffle yesterday and they gave away 300m at the end and the tavern was full of people talking and having fun for hours (yes, people that spent 7.5m per ticket)

This thread is just a hate/jealousy post.

Rich_rogue
02-22-2021, 08:07 PM
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dynastygaming
02-22-2021, 08:17 PM
If people want to participate, its their choice. Marsuu/Warriorexcile have youtube channels and have spent a lot of time to organise the raffles and live stream them for hours. (It's not a big deal if the people organising it make some gold too, especially after having prizes of 300m)

Nobody forces people to buy tickets for the raffle. It's a risk that belongs to the person buying it.
It isn't as easy as it seems to organise because not everyone wants to risk gold to participate.

I was a part of the raffle yesterday and they gave away 300m at the end and the tavern was full of people talking and having fun for hours (yes, people that spent 7.5m per ticket)

This thread is just a hate/jealousy post.

its not that hard specially when you have a prominent channel. 300 could be hard but a 100 can be easier and in the end still profit, a good example is the 100m raffle he did too just last 2 weeks it ended within 1 hour and bag 120m profit for him. Aint that grotesque? and players do buy tickets because some wanted a feeling to be on livestream and most as if you watch the videos are new players giving most of their precious items ebon, desire set and more. ripping players and enriching himself constantly. P.s ik hes your brother

Arcane Ziix
02-22-2021, 08:38 PM
its not that hard specially when you have a prominent channel. 300 could be hard but a 100 can be easier and in the end still profit, a good example is the 100m raffle he did too just last 2 weeks it ended within 1 hour and bag 120m profit for him. Aint that grotesque? and players do buy tickets because some wanted a feeling to be on livestream and most as if you watch the videos are new players giving most of their precious items ebon, desire set and more. ripping players and enriching himself constantly. P.s ik hes your brother


Yeah he is my brother but even if he wasn't I would have replied the same thing to this thread.

Nobody is being deceived or forced to enter, it's that simple. 7.5m per ticket is a lot but like I said it's a choice to enter. I personally lost over 40m from yesterdays raffle (not a flex, that was actually most of my pure gold, unfortunately).

Was I pissed and dissapointed that I didn't win? Yeah of course thats normal. But the whole process was fun to be a part of and at the end of the day there isn't a gun to any of the participants' heads' forcing them to buy tickets.

If someone is willing to risk giving their items, that's completely their own responsibility. It doesn't make the raffle a scam or deception.

That being said the raffle's can definitely be adjusted. One that I know of is that they have talked about reducing the ticket costs which is a good adjustment to make; Players with smaller budgets can take part.

dynastygaming
02-22-2021, 08:51 PM
Yeah he is my brother but even if he wasn't I would have replied the same thing to this thread.

Nobody is being deceived or forced to enter, it's that simple. 7.5m per ticket is a lot but like I said it's a choice to enter. I personally lost over 40m from yesterdays raffle (not a flex, that was actually most of my pure gold, unfortunately).

Was I pissed and dissapointed that I didn't win? Yeah of course thats normal. But the whole process was fun to be a part of and at the end of the day there isn't a gun to any of the participants' heads' forcing them to buy tickets.

If someone is willing to risk giving their items, that's completely their own responsibility. It doesn't make the raffle a scam or deception.

That being said the raffle's can definitely be adjusted. One that I know of is that they have talked about reducing the ticket costs which is a good adjustment to make; Players with smaller budgets can take part.

nope because hes taking advantage the fact that he can prominent channel and he can organize a pool of players and constantly making profit without sweat in just 1hr yes im im referring to the 100m raffles and can go more.

looiaqop
02-22-2021, 09:01 PM
Anyways how is the raffle even allowed if it doesnt even fit through the trade window

Arcane Ziix
02-22-2021, 09:12 PM
Anyways how is the raffle even allowed if it doesnt even fit through the trade window

This is a stupid question. To buy a ticket you need to trade in order to pay. To buy a ticket with items, again... you use the trade window.

Man y'all are just looking to hate from any angle without thinking about what you say

Arcane Ziix
02-22-2021, 09:16 PM
nope because hes taking advantage the fact that he can prominent channel and he can organize a pool of players and constantly making profit without sweat in just 1hr yes im im referring to the 100m raffles and can go more.

I don't know much about the 100m raffle as I wasn't a part of it.

But the one done yesterday (300m) took them 2 days to complete if i'm not wrong. And i'll say it again everybody in the tavern was having a good time (whether they bought tickets or not)

It's very simple;

Do you want to risk losing gold/items for a chance at winning a very high amount?

Yes? It's 100% at your own risk.

No? Then don't do it (warnings are given about it before the raffle anyway, nobody is being deceived)

The raffles definitely can be adjusted like I said, but it's definitely not deceptive or a scam.

Honestly just find something better to do with your time because all I see is somebody being petty about somebody elses 'prominent' channel.

If you think its deceptive, you are in the minority because hundreds of people (over all of the raffles) didn't find it to be deceptive or a scam) and participated. None of them were naive they just took a risk, simple.

The people who made the raffle did make gold too, but at least a fun event was created where everyone involved simply enjoyed it (until the moment they didn't win of course lol. But thats a normal response. I felt it too)

Case closed i'm done replying.

Mely Original
02-22-2021, 09:19 PM
Lol ya'll tryna make drama to people actually give their OWN time and ENERGY to make something interesting in game since its dead. It was your own choice to participate its not like he forced people to join. No wonder why this game died. Ungrateful people.

dynastygaming
02-22-2021, 09:25 PM
if you want players to be happy why not prizes come from your own pocket.

Zeus
02-22-2021, 09:45 PM
Here's my take.

I get why players are upset, especially those that didn't win. I personally don't participate, although I have been asked to. I have not been forced or coerced to, it's just a personal decision not to partake as I don't like to gamble. However, the rules are there up-front. They aren't scamming anybody. The last time I asked, they were pretty open with how much they were making from the raffles. Honestly, to organize an event on that scale takes time and effort. If they want to take some profit for that, I personally don't mind. Also, as far as I know, they have a system that is designed in a way that cannot be rigged. So, I do not see how they would be able to rig the system to make friends or themselves win.

At the end of the day, the saying goes to vote with your own wallet. If you do not feel that it is worth it, do not buy a ticket. It's that simple. Supply and demand is a natural thing, even in raffles. If the system isn't working, they will not be able to continue large-scale raffles like this.

So, my take is that I am indifferent to this raffle and think it is managed well. Additionally, I hold no qualms with the hosts taking a portion as profits as long as they are open about it. I personally have hosted several events before that have cost me gold out of my own pocket, not to mention time. Despite this, people still complained, ranted and got mad at me even though there is nothing in it for me. At the end of the day, you will always have dissatisfied players.

However, all this being said, I do not think it is allowed to post pay-for-entry raffles on the forums. I believe it is a forum rule somewhere (or at least, there was), so that is their mistake for posting it.

dynastygaming
02-22-2021, 09:45 PM
Lol ya'll tryna make drama to people actually give their OWN time and ENERGY to make something interesting in game since its dead. It was your own choice to participate its not like he forced people to join. No wonder why this game died. Ungrateful people.

ill be willing to use my time and energy for 300m profits 1hr 120m profit :). And game is not dead. If hes genuinely want to host and make.players happy money should come from his pocket and not organize a derby. No one pointing gun okay okay its the same cliche quote i heard of the ponzi-scheme scam "no one forced you" but is it deemed appropriate and legitimate? shallow excuses.

Hi mely :)

dynastygaming
02-22-2021, 09:55 PM
Here's my take.

I get why players are upset, especially those that didn't win. I personally don't participate, although I have been asked to. I have not been forced or coerced to, it's just a personal decision not to partake as I don't like to gamble. However, the rules are there up-front. They aren't scamming anybody. The last time I asked, they were pretty open with how much they were making from the raffles. Honestly, to organize an event on that scale takes time and effort. If they want to take some profit for that, I personally don't mind. Also, as far as I know, they have a system that is designed in a way that cannot be rigged. So, I do not see how they would be able to rig the system to make friends or themselves win.

At the end of the day, the saying goes to vote with your own wallet. If you do not feel that it is worth it, do not buy a ticket. It's that simple. Supply and demand is a natural thing, even in raffles. If the system isn't working, they will not be able to continue large-scale raffles like this.

So, my take is that I am indifferent to this raffle and think it is managed well. Additionally, I hold no qualms with the hosts taking a portion as profits as long as they are open about it. I personally have hosted several events before that have cost me gold out of my own pocket, not to mention time. Despite this, people still complained, ranted and got mad at me even though there is nothing in it for me. At the end of the day, you will always have dissatisfied players.

However, all this being said, I do not think it is allowed to post pay-for-entry raffles on the forums. I believe it is a forum rule somewhere (or at least, there was), so that is their mistake for posting it.

okay, that being said I guess ill starting hosting raffles now raking millions easily maybe ill start with 10m prize with 500k entrance to entice little players and then whales will come and get the 10m. thanks! appreciated it! ya im so dumb I should had realized this before instead of farming my day in evg and dm.

Saint Jaffo
02-22-2021, 10:30 PM
Here's my take.

I get why players are upset, especially those that didn't win. I personally don't participate, although I have been asked to. I have not been forced or coerced to, it's just a personal decision not to partake as I don't like to gamble. However, the rules are there up-front. They aren't scamming anybody. The last time I asked, they were pretty open with how much they were making from the raffles. Honestly, to organize an event on that scale takes time and effort. If they want to take some profit for that, I personally don't mind. Also, as far as I know, they have a system that is designed in a way that cannot be rigged. So, I do not see how they would be able to rig the system to make friends or themselves win.

At the end of the day, the saying goes to vote with your own wallet. If you do not feel that it is worth it, do not buy a ticket. It's that simple. Supply and demand is a natural thing, even in raffles. If the system isn't working, they will not be able to continue large-scale raffles like this.

So, my take is that I am indifferent to this raffle and think it is managed well. Additionally, I hold no qualms with the hosts taking a portion as profits as long as they are open about it. I personally have hosted several events before that have cost me gold out of my own pocket, not to mention time. Despite this, people still complained, ranted and got mad at me even though there is nothing in it for me. At the end of the day, you will always have dissatisfied players.

However, all this being said, I do not think it is allowed to post pay-for-entry raffles on the forums. I believe it is a forum rule somewhere (or at least, there was), so that is their mistake for posting it.

I must say you have reason at some point. If they are open with the amount they profit it's fine. Thing is other players will start taking this as an example to make gold, filling forums with "raffle threads" and spamming on towns. Besides that, some players will eventually take advantage of the situation and will end scamming. I'm not saying all of them will do, but there will be a couple of cases. At the end of the day, it's your own fault if you get scammed, but I don't want to see that much drama here because STS takes no actions against them.

Zeus
02-22-2021, 11:02 PM
okay, that being said I guess ill starting hosting raffles now raking millions easily maybe ill start with 10m prize with 500k entrance to entice little players and then whales will come and get the 10m. thanks! appreciated it! ya im so dumb I should had realized this before instead of farming my day in evg and dm.

You're free to do what you want, as long as it is within the parameters of the TOS. Personally, I don't farm. Kudos to you if you do. :D


I must say you have reason at some point. If they are open with the amount they profit it's fine. Thing is other players will start taking this as an example to make gold, filling forums with "raffle threads" and spamming on towns. Besides that, some players will eventually take advantage of the situation and will end scamming. I'm not saying all of them will do, but there will be a couple of cases. At the end of the day, it's your own fault if you get scammed, but I don't want to see that much drama here because STS takes no actions against them.

I do see your point about precedent. This is why I mentioned that there was a forum rule here at one point that pay-to-play raffles were not allowed here. I am not sure where the sticky went, but there used to be a sticky that talked about this at length.

dynastygaming
02-22-2021, 11:30 PM
Is it against tos? I mean if its not this is the whole new event idea that can be host by guildmasters/officers and players fishing tickets in pier. Can someone confirm?

karossss
02-23-2021, 06:18 AM
raffle is good thing cuz some players want to gamble like that and its nothing wrong that ppl who make them make profit. Dont be jealous if somebody make gold :D

Encryptions
02-23-2021, 06:49 AM
if you want players to be happy why not prizes come from your own pocket.
Because you will still get called a scammer for giving people free stuff.

dynastygaming
02-23-2021, 07:12 AM
keep defending your friend marsuu earning 1b per 1 week pickpocketing money from players. "No one forced them" Scammers

Rich_rogue
02-23-2021, 07:13 AM
keep defending your friend marsuu earning 1b per 1 week pickpocketing money from players. "No one forced them" Scammers

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marsu4u
02-23-2021, 07:14 AM
Basically long story short no matter what you do there's always gonna be someone who's gonna rant & be negative about it. I've seen Encryptions LITERALLY give out 100M from his own pocket & get slandered by this same handful of toxic people so as the saying goes if you have nothing nice to say shove it where the sun doesn't shine!

synoptix
02-23-2021, 07:16 AM
If people want to participate, its their choice. Marsuu/Warriorexcile have youtube channels and have spent a lot of time to organise the raffles and live stream them for hours. (It's not a big deal if the people organising it make some gold too, especially after having prizes of 300m)

Nobody forces people to buy tickets for the raffle. It's a risk that belongs to the person buying it.
It isn't as easy as it seems to organise because not everyone wants to risk gold to participate.

I was a part of the raffle yesterday and they gave away 300m at the end and the tavern was full of people talking and having fun for hours (yes, people that spent 7.5m per ticket)

This thread is just a hate/jealousy post.


Lol ya'll tryna make drama to people actually give their OWN time and ENERGY to make something interesting in game since its dead. It was your own choice to participate its not like he forced people to join. No wonder why this game died. Ungrateful people.

LOL, scammer mely and her blind bf trying defend one of their best friends Marsuu which is scammer too, funny tho :D next "winners" of marsuu's fake raffles got detected

lowaim
02-23-2021, 07:25 AM
Man just stfu my whole forums is filled with this bs go get a life spending hours arguing on a forums thread whats ur problem he is making gold so what? Its like same as merching nobody asked your dumb *** to join the raffle


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Rich_rogue
02-23-2021, 07:31 AM
Man just stfu my whole forums is filled with this bs go get a life spending hours arguing on a forums thread whats ur problem he is making gold so what? Its like same as merching nobody asked your dumb *** to join the raffle


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im think all pepole dont know we giving free gold for him..


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Yvenne
02-23-2021, 08:22 AM
Basically long story short no matter what you do there's always gonna be someone who's gonna rant & be negative about it. I've seen Encryptions LITERALLY give out 100M from his own pocket & get slandered by this same handful of toxic people so as the saying goes if you have nothing nice to say shove it where the sun doesn't shine!

And numerous amounts of people have LITERALLY seen the image of him sending a housemail of an attempt to manipulate prices...
Aside from the sugarcoats and acid among this drama.

There is always multiple sides to a story
with a derative side of things driven by derived intent.

Encryptions
02-23-2021, 09:10 AM
And numerous amounts of people have LITERALLY seen the image of him sending a housemail of an attempt to manipulate prices...
Aside from the sugarcoats and acid among this drama.

There is always multiple sides to a story
with a derative side of things driven by derived intent.

I said over 5 times what happened with the house mail thing. Dw I will do something soon with some screenshots I have only showed to a very few people.

dynastygaming
02-23-2021, 09:35 AM
Basically long story short no matter what you do there's always gonna be someone who's gonna rant & be negative about it. I've seen Encryptions LITERALLY give out 100M from his own pocket & get slandered by this same handful of toxic people so as the saying goes if you have nothing nice to say shove it where the sun doesn't shine!

when your prizes are 300m why do u still collect tickets up to 600m? scammer bch give them back their 300m instead of giving prizes puregold he gave items instead what a clever scammer! shame on you! using prominency to scam

Saint Jaffo
02-23-2021, 09:41 AM
instead of "300m raffle" it should've been "300m worth in items raffle"... This is like click bait.

|Ares|
02-23-2021, 09:56 AM
This is a stupid question. To buy a ticket you need to trade in order to pay. To buy a ticket with items, again... you use the trade window.

Man y'all are just looking to hate from any angle without thinking about what you say

No it's not a stupid question because the self prominently made "ticket" does not physically exist as original item in Arcane Legends universe.
So you're not buying a ticket, you're gambling.

Arcane Ziix
02-23-2021, 10:04 AM
No it's not a stupid question because the self prominently made "ticket" does not physically exist as original item in Arcane Legends universe.
So you're not buying a ticket, you're gambling.

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210223/80e0dd50d973e7f8eecf275292804c12.jpg

Please at least do some research before replying with stupidity.

Yes they are buying a 'ticket' and Yes you got 1 part correct, it is gambling.

looiaqop
02-23-2021, 10:05 AM
https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210223/80e0dd50d973e7f8eecf275292804c12.jpg

Please at least do some research before replying with stupidity.

Yes they are buying a 'ticket' and Yes you got 1 part correct, it is gambling.Last time i checked gambling isnt allowed by sts

Arcane Ziix
02-23-2021, 10:12 AM
Last time i checked gambling isnt allowed by sts

If it wasn't allowed they would have been talked to about it by the devs a long time ago. The only people that are complaining are the jealous & petty ones like yourself that like to hate. From what I know, the devs/a dev gave marsuu/warriorexcel the greenlight on the raffles (a dev can correct me if this is wrong, just what I heard)

Last time I checked you weren't a dev

Mely Original
02-23-2021, 10:19 AM
LOL! Im a scammer? People knows me and how generous i am with players especially the ones that need help most. Only thing you want to do its ruin people reputation for your own pleasure. Btw Zix isnt my bf but my husband. Marsuu isnt my friend, but my brother in law. What you doing i call it jealousy. Anyway, In other news, Go f**k yourself.

synoptix
02-23-2021, 10:44 AM
Btw Zix isnt my bf but my husband. Marsuu isnt my friend, but my brother in law.

Thanks for telling us your real reason why you both defending your scamming brother in law :)


Only thing you want to do its ruin people reputation

You already did it by yourself defending him here, gz ;D