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Schtoiven
05-11-2012, 06:43 PM
Hello everyone,

Most of you probably don't know it, but I am the guild master of The Dead Society in Star Legends. While originally we tried to have three guild masters, Edwardteach always been extremely busy and cannot devote enough time to accept the mantle of gm. Deokahidale held the position for a long time, and in February we decided I should assume the position. Since then, we did pretty well for ourselves, getting onto the leaderboards for a good long time (and we are finally back on them!). With the advent of Dark Legends, however, we have suffered. Activity is down, and many of us spend a good deal of time on Dark Legends, myself included. I assure you I'm only waiting for the SL update. Deokahidale opened a chapter of TDS in DL, which has proven rather successful. While Deo was spending time on DL, I was stuck on SL, struggling to keep SL TDS afloat. I now seem to be known as "Star Lord Sch" and am recognized as the full and individual gm of SL TDS. I only began playing DL when it was released on iOS, so DL TDS was roaring by then. I only lasted about a week or two in the guild. It is not TDS. Deo is a different person from who I have known. He doesn't give a hoot about our guild in SL. He has not logged on to SL in at least a month. While many officers of SL TDS are in DL TDS, I do not think that a single one of them has been given anything higher than recruiter. Deo has taken DL TDS in some direction that he has yet to explain and that is quite different from what TDS has stood for since our founding six months ago. I recognize that DL is not very guild-friendly, and that success of guilds there requires different tactics, but where DL TDS has gone is unacceptable. There are no vestiges of the true TDS remaining. It saddens me to think where I have been forced to go.

I, Schtoiven, Guild Master of The Dead Society, do formally DISOWN the dead society in dark legends for now and for ever.

I request that the dead society in Dark Legends change their name. I have worked long and hard to earn a respectable name for The Dead Society, and the guild in Dark Legends seems able to ruin our reputation. I recognize the unlikelihood of the name change actually happening, but one can always try.

I am not alone in my sentiments, many friends of mine agree that they are two separate guilds.

I would like to make it perfectly clear that from now on, The Dead Society in Star Legends and the dead society in Dark Legends are two distinct guilds, with no ties whatsoever.


Thank you for your time,

Schtoiven


***This will be posted both on SL and DL forums***

Theminecraft
05-11-2012, 06:52 PM
O_O i understand how you feel i have also noticed this change.

PianoWizzy
05-11-2012, 07:07 PM
I understand your decision. I wish you and your guild, The Dead Society of Star Legends, my best.

Skabac
05-11-2012, 11:25 PM
As I do think <The Dead Society> of Dark Legends has problems - I think it was childish to post this. Kinda hating on it and disowning it without Deokahidale's approval. He owns TDS just as much as you do. This is why I will no longer be apart of TDS.

Sorry.

-Skabac

ZeUrbanSqwrl2
05-11-2012, 11:49 PM
Im in your guild in SL

Miax
05-12-2012, 12:37 AM
Im sorry but I can understand where sch's coming from cuz I too thought TDS in DL would be as it was in SL. I left TDS in DL too but I informed Deo why I left and that I had no hard feelings toward anyone. Please lets not hate sch, he's clearly saddened by this and as am I.

Mrsberry
05-12-2012, 02:46 AM
Im sorry but this did not have too be put on sts forum. Just because a guild doesnt run how you would like it doesnt make it a bad guild that is just your opinion and maybe a few others. I know a lot of people from DL in TDS and they seem more then happy with there guild. I can understand you would like them too change guild name but keep that between you and them not the entire sts public. Too me this seems like a bashing thread trying to ruine a guilds reputation.

Schtoiven
05-12-2012, 12:30 PM
I don't consider DL TDS to be a bad guild. It simply doesn't represent what TDS was created to be: small, tight-knit, and elite. I think it's a good guild for DL, but I also think they share no real connections aside from Deo being gm in both.

Kellee
05-12-2012, 12:44 PM
I agree with you Berry, this was uncalled for and fairly offensive.

TDS in DL IS different from SL, just as the PL guild which wasnt mentioned is different from either. This shouldnt be surprising as they are all different games. The Dead Society in SL is a wonderful guild and I enjoyed my time there, when DL released the guilds it was a given that I would be joining. It is a wonderful guild and very well managed, all of the officers are mature players who can and will help out as well as keep things from getting out of hand. I am sorry that some of our brothers and sisters in SL do not feel comfortable with us in this new guild, but I do understand their feelings. Perhaps in time there will be a reconciliation between Deo and schtoiven but that is for the future. I have a lot of friends in the SL Guild and I have no intention of giving them up over this, It is a game. A game where we come to have fun, socialize, and escape the Real World for a while. I will not let a petty squabble ruin my enjoyment of this or any game. We are all free to make our own decisions, to join this or that guild, to talk to this or that person... I don't begrudge anyone that right, but don't infringe upon my right to make my own choices either.

For now know that TDS in DL will welcome with open arms all who can and do respect the rules that were established in SL.

We get to give, but no begging.
Respect all players, no haters.
Guild Chat A Lot and have Fun!

Oh, and its Society, not Scoiety

Taipan
05-12-2012, 02:06 PM
As I do think <The Dead Society> of Dark Legends has problems - I think it was childish to post this. Kinda hating on it and disowning it without Deokahidale's approval. He owns TDS just as much as you do. This is why I will no longer be apart of TDS.
Sorry.
-Skabac
As you say, He owns TDS just as much as you do. therefore, Sch is allowed to do what he likes with the guild.


Im sorry but this did not have too be put on sts forum. Just because a guild doesnt run how you would like it doesnt make it a bad guild that is just your opinion and maybe a few others. I know a lot of people from DL in TDS and they seem more then happy with there guild. I can understand you would like them too change guild name but keep that between you and them not the entire sts public. Too me this seems like a bashing thread trying to ruine a guilds reputation.
I do not recall Sch calling it a bad guild, and the Dark Legends guild in his opinion, is ruining his guild's reputation.

I agree with you Berry, this was uncalled for and fairly offensive.

TDS in DL IS different from SL, just as the PL guild which wasnt mentioned is different from either. This shouldnt be surprising as they are all different games. The Dead Society in SL is a wonderful guild and I enjoyed my time there, when DL released the guilds it was a given that I would be joining. It is a wonderful guild and very well managed, all of the officers are mature players who can and will help out as well as keep things from getting out of hand. I am sorry that some of our brothers and sisters in SL do not feel comfortable with us in this new guild, but I do understand their feelings. Perhaps in time there will be a reconciliation between Deo and schtoiven but that is for the future. I have a lot of friends in the SL Guild and I have no intention of giving them up over this, It is a game. A game where we come to have fun, socialize, and escape the Real World for a while. I will not let a petty squabble ruin my enjoyment of this or any game. We are all free to make our own decisions, to join this or that guild, to talk to this or that person... I don't begrudge anyone that right, but don't infringe upon my right to make my own choices either.

For now know that TDS in DL will welcome with open arms all who can and do respect the rules that were established in SL.

We get to give, but no begging.
Respect all players, no haters.
Guild Chat A Lot and have Fun!

Oh, and its Society, not Scoiety
How can you say "no haters" in a post while your hating on someone else's post?
Sorry if i have been offensive to anyone, but I am just posting my opinion.
I do not believe that saying one thing wrong on the forums should suddenly make you hated by multiple people.
Once a friend of mine helped me stop haters on a thread that I had made, and I will do my best to help someone else from being hated.
-Taipan

Azi
05-12-2012, 07:15 PM
Hello everyone,

Most of you probably don't know it, but I am the guild master of The Dead Society in Star Legends. While originally we tried to have three guild masters, Edwardteach always been extremely busy and cannot devote enough time to accept the mantle of gm. Deokahidale held the position for a long time, and in February we decided I should assume the position. Since then, we did pretty well for ourselves, getting onto the leaderboards for a good long time (and we are finally back on them!). With the advent of Dark Legends, however, we have suffered. Activity is down, and many of us spend a good deal of time on Dark Legends, myself included. I assure you I'm only waiting for the SL update. Deokahidale opened a chapter of TDS in DL, which has proven rather successful. While Deo was spending time on DL, I was stuck on SL, struggling to keep SL TDS afloat. I now seem to be known as "Star Lord Sch" and am recognized as the full and individual gm of SL TDS. I only began playing DL when it was released on iOS, so DL TDS was roaring by then. I only lasted about a week or two in the guild. It is not TDS. Deo is a different person from who I have known. He doesn't give a hoot about our guild in SL. He has not logged on to SL in at least a month. While many officers of SL TDS are in DL TDS, I do not think that a single one of them has been given anything higher than recruiter. Deo has taken DL TDS in some direction that he has yet to explain and that is quite different from what TDS has stood for since our founding six months ago. I recognize that DL is not very guild-friendly, and that success of guilds there requires different tactics, but where DL TDS has gone is unacceptable. There are no vestiges of the true TDS remaining. It saddens me to think where I have been forced to go.

I, Schtoiven, Guild Master of The Dead Society, do formally DISOWN the dead society in dark legends for now and for ever.

I request that the dead society in Dark Legends change their name. I have worked long and hard to earn a respectable name for The Dead Society, and the guild in Dark Legends seems able to ruin our reputation. I recognize the unlikelihood of the name change actually happening, but one can always try.

I am not alone in my sentiments, many friends of mine agree that they are two separate guilds.

I would like to make it perfectly clear that from now on, The Dead Society in Star Legends and the dead society in Dark Legends are two distinct guilds, with no ties whatsoever.


Thank you for your time,

Schtoiven


***This will be posted both on SL and DL forums***

This doesn't surprise me it would happen, but to such a recognizable guild.

Thank you for the heads up.

Azi

Zaonabiuibil
05-13-2012, 12:09 PM
You had to do what you had to do. I realize and hope everyone else does how hard a decision this is, and I admire that you had the guts to do it. Long live SL, The Dead Society.

Skabac
05-15-2012, 12:06 AM
I'm saying that Deokahidale is also the owner of the guild, meaning that I think Schtoiven doesn't have the right to disown DL TDS.
As you say, He owns TDS just as much as you do. therefore, Sch is allowed to do what he likes with the guild.


I do not recall Sch calling it a bad guild, and the Dark Legends guild in his opinion, is ruining his guild's reputation.

How can you say "no haters" in a post while your hating on someone else's post?
Sorry if i have been offensive to anyone, but I am just posting my opinion.
I do not believe that saying one thing wrong on the forums should suddenly make you hated by multiple people.
Once a friend of mine helped me stop haters on a thread that I had made, and I will do my best to help someone else from being hated.
-Taipan

flashbackflip
05-15-2012, 12:37 AM
I think that forums are suitable for any discussion of different type of info, not only for posting funny posts and sig contests, so this post by Schtoiven is totally okay

Such sadness (and maybe drama) shows that the Dead Society GM does cares about his guild. I see no hating in his thread, though it's not very clear what particular stuff is so different in two same named guilds

I wish you best with yo guild, Schtoiven

Peace