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Dragonrider023
05-17-2012, 08:21 PM
I wasted total of 125 platinum on new moon item pack for chance of eclipse or whatever it's called. And I didn't got it in any of those tries, it's addicted. I rly wanted cool necklace!

Refund!(they won't refund anyway)

Flowman
05-17-2012, 08:27 PM
It's a gamble...and although I don't think they should have gambling in a game that's already addicting enough...it's their decision. Adding an addicting thing like gambling to an addicting game is just asking for trouble since people have no self control. It's like the casino. The "real money" is out of sight and you're given chips, or in this case, platinum. It's very easy to blow through platinum because although it's worth real money, it's not money in hand.

However, you knew the risks before hand. It took me about 400 plat to get the flamebrands.

dugantale
05-17-2012, 08:29 PM
Havent tried lol ;)

Mrsberry
05-17-2012, 08:32 PM
Ive spent over 800 plat on weapon packs never get lucky. It sucks yes but was my choice too buy them when I knew it was only a chance not a guarantee.

Popular
05-17-2012, 08:35 PM
i got it on the first try ..

ON MY POOPING ALT FML

Late
05-17-2012, 08:45 PM
I tried once for moon gem then I didn't get I was like $&%#^@

Mrsberry
05-17-2012, 08:48 PM
ON MY POOPING ALT FML
Omg! Is there a pooping emote on alts? :p

Lol that sucks maybe youll get it on your main too ill keep my fingers crossed for you.

Piosidon
05-17-2012, 08:51 PM
STS is really taking advantage of the 17+ thing

Sky../
05-17-2012, 08:54 PM
I'm not against the whole "gambling for items" situation, but what does grind my gears is that you don't even know what chance you have at getting the rare items. Smart move for them i guess, because if people find out it's 1%, most would not even bother to try.

ArtStar
05-17-2012, 09:19 PM
i got it on the first try ..

ON MY POOPING ALT FML

ahahahhahaa ilysm. That just made my day xD

Delphina
05-17-2012, 09:44 PM
I'm going to quote Airrie in this thread. He said it pretty well:


In an effort to prevent this from going in the wrong direction, allow me to clarify with some simple points.
If you buy a random pack, you're always rewarded. It may or may not be your favorite item, but the outcome is always positive.
Actual gambling, like at a casino, runs the risk of an absolute negative. There is no guarantee of any positive outcome and the odds are either entirely for you, or against you at either a gain or absolute loss.

Think of it like buying a booster pack of cards from your favorite card game or putting a quarter in a machine that gives you a toy at random. Chance.

Sryyoulose
05-17-2012, 09:47 PM
You guys are wise beyond your years!
Well put.

Elyseon
05-17-2012, 09:49 PM
Lol DL is just gonna become a bigger plat sucker the PL or SL I just hope they get enough sales from it so the can tone it back in PL ;D

ArtStar
05-17-2012, 10:19 PM
Omg! Is there a pooping emote on alts? :p

Lol that sucks maybe youll get it on your main too ill keep my fingers crossed for you.

Nonononono, she has a alt named Poop, and she got it on that alt I think is what she meant xD
Halarious.

Roc
05-17-2012, 10:45 PM
Yugioh cards, why did I spend so much money on them?!

But anyway, I tried twice and that was it :)

Mrsberry
05-17-2012, 10:46 PM
Nonononono, she has a alt named Poop, and she got it on that alt I think is what she meant xD
Halarious.
Lmao well she should have a pooping emote for that alt then. ;)

magemage
05-17-2012, 10:52 PM
I'm going to quote Airrie in this thread. He said it pretty well:

Use a normal account with your own money and try to get one of those random legendary items,

then tell us how much it cost you to get one and what's you thought.

I think that will be more objective.:orange:

Xettacross
05-17-2012, 11:35 PM
Got it on my sixth try. Booyah XD

phrosts
05-17-2012, 11:40 PM
Use a normal account with your own money and try to get one of those random legendary items,

then tell us how much it cost you to get one and what's you thought.

I think that will be more objective.:orange:

Level 21 I SPENT 10 PLAT and got it.

RedRyder
05-18-2012, 02:56 AM
Lol DL is just gonna become a bigger plat sucker the PL or SL I just hope they get enough sales from it so the can tone it back in PL ;D

Gonna become or already is? This pack is only 5 plat... And if players are spending 800 plat (which in DL RL currency is NOT cheap) are still not getting it, it is a gamble. No disrespect to Airrie, he's a cool as heck mod, but booster packs didn't cost this much before getting, using Pokemon as an ex., a cool AF holographic card. I remember forking over $10 of booster packs back in the day for a holo dragonite but still getting a cool holo raichu and zapdos instead. IMO, they need to raise the % of the desired item. DL plat is significantly more expensive than what we're used to from Pl/SL.

I'm sticking to the drops from 3D missions and I'll be milking the 2x energy regen weekend for what it's worth.

Time X effort > real life money.

ArtStar
05-18-2012, 03:17 AM
I too set my mind to this from the start. Haven't bought plat yet, but it would be nice though. lol I really like what you can get with it. I also like that my DL experience hasn't been tainted by the power of plat. I just capped two days ago :] told ya'll I'd take my time.

mafiainc42
05-18-2012, 03:39 AM
Dam yugi what and Pokemon who.. I know garabage pale kids and the lil pink muscle men that came in a trash can container...

magemage
05-18-2012, 03:51 AM
Time X effort > real life money.


100% agree. This reminds me of people who spent hundreds of plat to rush their characters to level cap in PL :tongue:

But to be honest, people will be still buying if there are more new plat items available in the store.

Takezaki
05-18-2012, 05:17 AM
I'm going to quote Airrie in this thread. He said it pretty well:

That post makes sense but you know, when you buy sports cards or toys from a machine, you can actually TRADE them or SELL them if you already have a double or if you simply don't want or need them.

In Dark Legends, you are stuck with items you don't need, and the only other option apart from letting them rot in your inventory is trashing them for 25 gold.

So basically, items that you get from the packs and already have or don't need have absolutely no value.

THAT, is a real problem.

Prestige
05-18-2012, 05:25 AM
I actually don't mind the price nor the gamble. The thing that bugs me is the level lock. Why level lock platinum items? Some money savers would rather spend it later in the game when the level cap stops raising. Would be nice if they added an upgrade option...

BodMaster
05-18-2012, 09:05 AM
I'm sticking to the drops from 3D missions and I'll be milking the 2x energy regen weekend for what it's worth.

Time X effort > real life money.

^^ This, No PvP, will also not be purchasing ANY plat in DL.

(Guess I can handle looking like a "noob" until I have enough In Game Currency, than a new player with LOTSA monies)

StompArtist
05-18-2012, 09:07 AM
^^ This, No PvP, will also not be purchasing ANY plat in DL.

(Guess I can handle looking like a "noob" until I have enough In Game Currency, than a new player with LOTSA monies)

You don't need the plat stuff: you got skills. Plat weapons and gems are to level the playing field for us, the elderly. :D

BodMaster
05-18-2012, 09:10 AM
You don't need the plat stuff: you got skills. Plat weapons and gems are to level the playing field for us, the elderly. :D

Lolol, maybe I could test these skills you talk about in a few PvP matches when I hit Cap :p (15k to go (;

Dragonrider023
05-18-2012, 10:51 AM
Gonna become or already is? This pack is only 5 plat... And if players are spending 800 plat (which in DL RL currency is NOT cheap) are still not getting it, it is a gamble. No disrespect to Airrie, he's a cool as heck mod, but booster packs didn't cost this much before getting, using Pokemon as an ex., a cool AF holographic card. I remember forking over $10 of booster packs back in the day for a holo dragonite but still getting a cool holo raichu and zapdos instead. IMO, they need to raise the % of the desired item. DL plat is significantly more expensive than what we're used to from Pl/SL.

I'm sticking to the drops from 3D missions and I'll be milking the 2x energy regen weekend for what it's worth.

Time X effort > real life money.

lol true

xfrzen
05-18-2012, 12:01 PM
I'm going to quote Airrie in this thread. He said it pretty well:

Actually when you buy cards there is more then 1 preset item that ppl are buying it for

Ripper McGee
05-18-2012, 12:34 PM
I wasted 35 plat trying to get it, but at least 30 of the plat were free from winning the twitter contest this week! That being said, it wasn't a total loss, because I did actually get a pink beast gem that was a good overall upgrade for my stats! Woot!

Carth
05-18-2012, 03:04 PM
It would be "funny" to see stores pull this kind of stuff.

I can imagine... Going to the store, handing the store clerk $60 for the new Max Payne, and in return, getting Sniper Elite v2 instead. You try again, and get Diablo 3 instead.

Of course, they would give you a warning beforehand that they are doing this kind of deal and that there is no option to purchase Max Payne straightforward. No harm, right?

Just a "funny" thought. :D

Ripper McGee
05-18-2012, 03:07 PM
It would be "funny" to see stores pull this kind of stuff.

I can imagine... Going to the store, handing the store clerk $60 for the new Max Payne, and in return, getting Sniper Elite v2 instead. You try again, and get Diablo 3 instead.

Of course, they would give you a warning beforehand that they are doing this kind of deal and that there is no option to purchase Max Payne straightforward. No harm, right?

Just a "funny" thought. :D

This does happen in stores every day, but with trading card packs sold to kids and collectors. It's not new, it's been happening for decades.

Carth
05-18-2012, 03:47 PM
I know. I should of rather put, "It would be funny if stores did this with video games." That was my meaning. :)

Ripper McGee
05-18-2012, 04:13 PM
Ahh, and you were being literal, too. Carry on then!

Snakespeare
05-18-2012, 05:55 PM
I think there should a counter on the fails. If you don't get the premium item, it increments. Once you get it, it resets to zero. The devs can then decide (and tell us) that we'll get the item if the counter reaches X, where X is the amount of plat they think it is worth to buy upfront divided by the cost of the pack.So then you are gambling to get it for less, but you know you will get it after enough tries and there is a maximum amount it will come to.

It would reduce the load on support, too.

Isn't that a win-win?

Dazamo
05-18-2012, 05:56 PM
Dam yugi what and Pokemon who.. I know garabage pale kids and the lil pink muscle men that came in a trash can container...

I still have my garbage pale kids cards and the M.U.S.C.L.E. men too! LOL! My wife thinks I am crazy and a hoarder.

xfrzen
05-18-2012, 06:09 PM
245 plat, 150 on heads men and nothing( understandable) 95 plats on the stupid necklace and nothing.... horrible.....

Deathpunch
05-18-2012, 07:30 PM
I still have my garbage pale kids cards and the M.U.S.C.L.E. men too! LOL! My wife thinks I am crazy and a hoarder.

All of my M.U.S.C.L.E. men died in combat from a G.I. Joe clusterbomb made from Blackcats.

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Range
05-18-2012, 09:49 PM
i got it on the first try ..

ON MY POOPING ALT FML

What lvl & post stats plz :)

Elf-Orc-Naga
05-19-2012, 07:55 AM
its luckiness (gambling concept), dont hate me but i got the eclipse necklace on my first bought! thought it was easy to get... well good luck anyone! i wonder if they can create dungeons which have lucky draw to double your platinum -- doubling gambling hehe :)

Range
05-19-2012, 12:36 PM
Anybody have stats on this piece yet?

Staryknight
05-19-2012, 01:14 PM
Anybody have stats on this piece yet?
Stats for level 21 are here (http://www.spacetimestudios.com/showthread.php?57816-Pink-Plat-Weapon-Stats).

Slant
05-19-2012, 03:28 PM
the whole system needs to be changed where plat is easy to earn and spend
discount the randoms while making the purchase
wanted to try twice,
got some pink gem ... blv its worse than a lower level green on the first attempt, didnt go for it again

Twinrova
05-20-2012, 08:44 PM
I got my Ecliptic Moon Gem necklace on my 6th try! d ^_^ b

Xaphan Fox
05-20-2012, 09:06 PM
On all of these random chance threads... do me a favor:

If you get he coveted item in one try, keep it to yourself.

No one cares.

It is random chance. You can get it in one try... or in 500. The point isn't just that it is rare, but that for every person who gets it in 1-3 tries... there is the person that doesn't get it after 100 dollars.

Getting ecliptic in 20 tries or brand/pest in 20 tries is the *average*. Plenty do well while others get monumentally screwed over virtual property.

SOMETHING THAT SHOULD NEVER HAPPEN.

If you beat the math through cosmic luck... good for you. But be happy in your head.

Some people have/are spending too much money to beat the odds over a game design that prolly shouldn't be in a game supposedly devoted to casuals.



Thanks

woof...

anshdoc
05-21-2012, 01:11 AM
Definitely one should also know its percentage of rarity, just like in the map.
Probably its rarer to fall than 2% lol

Sky../
05-21-2012, 01:15 AM
I remember those NBA trading cards i used to buy, on the back, the odds of getting the special (ie. autographed or holograms) are listed (ie. 1:100, 1:250 etc).

KillaSkillz
05-21-2012, 05:52 AM
My odds are 0 in 0. I won't participate in taking a million (or 1) chances at an item that will be outdated or inferior in a week or a month. This type of thing is fine with vanities that don't affect stats, they have longevity, but not an item with a shelf life. It's just crazy to get caught up in that cycle imho. Stat weapons/items have a shelf life. They will eventually lose their relevence at some point (even to the point the white items we all scrap are more powerful) its a matter if time. seems a waste of my money for a momentary advantage. If it had no stats, and it didn't matter if it was level 3 or 300, I would probably participate, you could carry something cool forever. As level increase, or new items are added they will become ineffective. I will stick to drops, now that I reached level 21 the pinks finally started flowing :)

HunterSLAYER
05-21-2012, 06:07 AM
If you like the game, support the developers.

Complaining won't help nor solve any problems.

Peace out :)

Edit: AWW robert can't even stand my post(its not even offensive a "peace out"was included), what a pity.
Nvm, I'll edit it for your sake.

Much better now?


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magemage
05-21-2012, 06:41 AM
If you like the game, support the developers. Its as simple as that
Complaining won't help nor solve any problems.

The biggest support is playing this game and leaving 5 stars on the app store, isn't it :victorious:

wvhills
05-21-2012, 07:21 AM
If you like the game, support the developers. Its as simple as that
Complaining won't help nor solve any problems.

'Nuf said.

Peace out :)

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It's not as simple as that. No one expects to be able to play a game for free. We want to support the devs but we also want to get what we pay for. Gamble packs aren't the way to do that imo. speaking for myself, I'd gladly spend money for items straight up. For example, I'd buy a new moon gem for 25 plat if I knew what the stats were before hand and I knew I was going to get it.

Also, it's not complaining it's feedback and it does help and it does solve problems. Sts has a good history of listening to it's player base and that's why I believe we won't see many gamble packs in the future. They'll realize people are fed up with them and aren't buying them anymore and then they'll make the items available by themselves in the store.

Btw, saying things like "it's a simple as that" and "nuf said" are dismissive of other's opinions and make you sound like a jerk.

Cero
05-21-2012, 07:23 AM
Spent all my plat ..and u know what happened... Anyways im still enjoying pvp

StompArtist
05-21-2012, 07:36 AM
If you beat the math through cosmic luck... good for you. But be happy in your head.



Where is the fun in not rubbing it into peoples face? But, yeah, I can see how these "luck" items would loose their appeal quickly over time, especially at the frequency at which they are now released.

Deathpunch
05-21-2012, 08:58 AM
On all of these random chance threads... do me a favor:

If you get he coveted item in one try, keep it to yourself.

No one cares.

It is random chance. You can get it in one try... or in 500. The point isn't just that it is rare, but that for every person who gets it in 1-3 tries... there is the person that doesn't get it after 100 dollars.

Getting ecliptic in 20 tries or brand/pest in 20 tries is the *average*. Plenty do well while others get monumentally screwed over virtual property.

SOMETHING THAT SHOULD NEVER HAPPEN.

If you beat the math through cosmic luck... good for you. But be happy in your head.

Some people have/are spending too much money to beat the odds over a game design that prolly shouldn't be in a game supposedly devoted to casuals.



Thanks

woof...

Sure, just as soon as the people who didn't get it after 20 tries quit posting. Like you said, no one cares.

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wvhills
05-21-2012, 09:03 AM
Sure, just as soon as the people who didn't get it after 20 tries quit posting. Like you said, no one cares.

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You're wrong, I do care. I'm glad everyone is posting how many times they've tried because it convinced my to save my plat and not bother with it. Maybe if everyone posts how much plat they've spent gambling in game then more will be convinced not to try it. If enough people stop trying then sts will put these items up for sale individually like I feel they should have done in the first place.

Deathpunch
05-21-2012, 09:07 AM
You're wrong, I do care. I'm glad everyone is posting how many times they've tried because it convinced my to save my plat and not bother with it. Maybe if everyone posts how much plat they've spent gambling in game then more will be convinced not to try it. If enough people stop trying then sts will put these items up for sale individually like I feel they should have done in the first place.

Perhaps. But people won't stop. They'll keep throwing their plat away on stuff, then come on here and cry about it.

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Aculeas
05-21-2012, 09:43 AM
Yugioh cards, why did I spend so much money on them?!

But anyway, I tried twice and that was it :)

I still have all mine. 1st edition black luster envoy of the beggining, 1st edition arch fiend of gilfer, 1st edition spell binding circle, 1st edition mirror force, 1st edition harpies feather duster, 1st edition swords of revealing light. A couple 1st edition chaos emperor dragons envoy of the ends and a couple tournament legal obelisk the tomentor.

CHA-CHING

that's just my money list.

My experience with playing cards is exactly why I will not spend money on STS's booster packs. If they want my money they can give me a flat out guarantee I am getting what I am paying for. Otherwise STS won't see a dime from me in DL.

Deathpunch
05-21-2012, 12:00 PM
If they want my money they can give me a flat out guarantee I am getting what I am paying for. Otherwise STS won't see a dime from me in DL.

Here's the thing. You ARE getting what you pay for, X number of gems and a chance at a rare weapon. It doesn't matter if you get the rare or not, as that wasn't what was clearly labeled on the description.

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Rare
05-21-2012, 12:22 PM
Here's the thing. You ARE getting what you pay for, X number of gems and a chance at a rare weapon. It doesn't matter if you get the rare or not, as that wasn't what was clearly labeled on the description.

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Well that's up for interpretation.

Deathpunch
05-21-2012, 12:51 PM
Well that's up for interpretation.

How so?

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Rare
05-21-2012, 01:27 PM
The arguments have been had many times already. I'm not going to rehash it.

I agree with Aculeas, I won't be spending any of my money on these grab bags because the items are not worth anything near what they could potentially cost.

Deathpunch
05-21-2012, 03:13 PM
The arguments have been had many times already. I'm not going to rehash it.

I agree with Aculeas, I won't be spending any of my money on these grab bags because the items are not worth anything near what they could potentially cost.

I agree there, especially considering they will be quickly outstripped when cap increase comes along.

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Prestige
05-23-2012, 08:02 AM
I talked to Carapace yesterday. He said as a gamer he feels strongly that players should not have to re-buy their platinum items. They are planning out a system to update your plat gear most likely crafting. But it's pretty much up in the air as he phrased it. I also have some screenshots of the conversation I will put up later.


Update here it is: 11218



My opinion on this thread: I personally like the system so that they are able to keep platinum items somewhat rare. I know many gamers hate gambling of any sort, but I believe it's to make an item feel special. No I haven't bought many packs yet so I have yet to feel your pain. But I think it's better than having every player with the same items.

Phoenixking
05-23-2012, 08:52 AM
It only feels special of you get it around 1-3 tries, after that you'll feel special for a moment and then a strong feeling of regret will bubble up.

Luvaria
05-23-2012, 03:19 PM
It only feels special of you get it around 1-3 tries, after that you'll feel special for a moment and then a strong feeling of regret will bubble up.

Regret? Why o.o
It was free. >_> (the 10 plat you get for just signing up)