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Encryptions
07-08-2021, 02:48 PM
I was able to reach wave 100+ easily I thought the enemies were boosted?
You also have an auto open chest in the vendor for 100 tokens per chest. Is this intended? This seems way too op I looted ebon vest from 5 opens.
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PatD
07-08-2021, 03:10 PM
I was able to reach wave 100+ easily I thought the enemies were boosted?
You also have an auto open chest in the vendor for 100 tokens per chest. Is this intended? This seems way too op I looted ebon vest from 5 opens.
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i thought same thing... was very happy that runs would have been shorter :(

Cinco
07-08-2021, 03:18 PM
Sorry if your expectations of "boosting" were that the monsters would be 3, 4X harder (or what have ye). The increases were made with the majority in-mind and not just the most OP toons. Plus it's in the context of max group size dropping from 4 to 3... which has a much more profound impact on players that are not max level, max gear. That said, if the consensus is the event sucks because it's too easy... I will happily overbalance in favor of the Reptus (but I'm not going to do that 'til we've had a full day of it :-)

As for that unlocked crate - it is very generous. Happy to hear other players' thoughts on the availability of gears from that crate and adjust if necessary :-)

Encryptions
07-08-2021, 03:23 PM
Sorry if your expectations of "boosting" were that the monsters would be 3, 4X harder (or what have ye). The increases were made with the majority in-mind and not just the most OP toons. Plus it's in the context of max group size dropping from 4 to 3... which has a much more profound impact on players that are not max level, max gear. That said, if the consensus is the event sucks because it's too easy... I will happily overbalance in favor of the Reptus (but I'm not going to do that 'til we've had a full day of it :-)

As for that unlocked crate - it is very generous. Happy to hear other players' thoughts on the availability of gears from that crate and adjust if necessary :-)

I understand :). Just wanted to make sure if there weren't any mistakes. That chest is so op it will cause a huge decrease in prices but it will help new players a ton.
If the chest wasn't intended I would of asked to boost wave 30+ but since that chest is intended its fine to keep the mobs low so people can open them more.
Do not change the chest, gear availability will be very op for new players. I think ebons will be below 3mil each at the end of the event.

ChrisBreezy
07-08-2021, 03:41 PM
Sorry if your expectations of "boosting" were that the monsters would be 3, 4X harder (or what have ye). The increases were made with the majority in-mind and not just the most OP toons. Plus it's in the context of max group size dropping from 4 to 3... which has a much more profound impact on players that are not max level, max gear. That said, if the consensus is the event sucks because it's too easy... I will happily overbalance in favor of the Reptus (but I'm not going to do that 'til we've had a full day of it :-)


As for that unlocked crate - it is very generous. Happy to hear other players' thoughts on the availability of gears from that crate and adjust if necessary :-)

Please don’t adjust the cost of token for the crates

Achates
07-08-2021, 06:14 PM
Sorry if your expectations of "boosting" were that the monsters would be 3, 4X harder (or what have ye). The increases were made with the majority in-mind and not just the most OP toons. Plus it's in the context of max group size dropping from 4 to 3... which has a much more profound impact on players that are not max level, max gear. That said, if the consensus is the event sucks because it's too easy... I will happily overbalance in favor of the Reptus (but I'm not going to do that 'til we've had a full day of it :-)

As for that unlocked crate - it is very generous. Happy to hear other players' thoughts on the availability of gears from that crate and adjust if necessary :-)
Please dont change the crate :)

PatD
07-09-2021, 07:27 AM
Sorry if your expectations of "boosting" were that the monsters would be 3, 4X harder (or what have ye). The increases were made with the majority in-mind and not just the most OP toons. Plus it's in the context of max group size dropping from 4 to 3... which has a much more profound impact on players that are not max level, max gear. That said, if the consensus is the event sucks because it's too easy... I will happily overbalance in favor of the Reptus (but I'm not going to do that 'til we've had a full day of it :-)

As for that unlocked crate - it is very generous. Happy to hear other players' thoughts on the availability of gears from that crate and adjust if necessary :-)

I understand about the majority but i still think that if the difficulty meet at wave 100 would have been put at let say wave 70 it would have been more convenient "irl timewise" hehe, yesterday i have try a bit for solo, but at wave 80 i really had to go answer the door irl loll so well, ill plan an hour or 2 hiding in my backyard shed to be sure to not be disturb hahaha

ps: but otherwise everything else really cool!! :D

IExposedYou
07-09-2021, 07:38 AM
I understand about the majority but i still think that if the difficulty meet at wave 100 would have been put at let say wave 70 it would have been more convenient "irl timewise" hehe, yesterday i have try a bit for solo, but at wave 80 i really had to go answer the door irl loll so well, ill plan an hour or 2 hiding in my backyard shed to be sure to not be disturb hahaha

ps: but otherwise everything else really cool!! :D

I agree. Waves are too easy until 100+. I rather spend less time each run but run more often to try different strategies.
It’s like I gotta bore myself to w100 (which takes 60min I think?) to try one strategy for few waves only... if i do a mistake then I gotta run again with same strategy just to double check if it’s good or not ...

PatD
07-09-2021, 07:50 AM
I agree. Waves are too easy until 100+. I rather spend less time each run but run more often to try different strategies.
It’s like I gotta bore myself to w100 (which takes 60min I think?) to try one strategy for few waves only... if i do a mistake then I gotta run again with same strategy just to double check if it’s good or not ...

yep exactly what i mean!

Xtremez
07-09-2021, 07:51 AM
I mean it is not super easy to reach wave 100 solo. Group yes it's easy but solo it's hard to kill all mobs within the time limit as they become stronger in waves 70+ and they like to scatter to the map's edges which is just annoying. I feel like this is indeed harder than last temple event since I could reach almost 110 back then but could only do hardly 106 this time.

IExposedYou
07-09-2021, 08:04 AM
I mean it is not super easy to reach wave 100 solo. Group yes it's easy but solo it's hard to kill all mobs within the time limit as they become stronger in waves 70+ and they like to scatter to the map's edges which is just annoying. I feel like this is indeed harder than last temple event since I could reach almost 110 back then but could only do hardly 106 this time.

Idk. I (solo - warrior) ran one time so far and reached w109. Maybe my first strategy attempt was decent. One of my weapon didn’t proc so I insta died. Now I don’t know if the combo was bad for this wave or if I misclicked a hotbar. Gotta try same strategy again today just to verify ...

Edit: in dragkin temple, w93 or 94 was considerably more difficult than previous waves.
Anyone know what wave is difficult in this swamp temple?

Kystone
07-09-2021, 08:46 AM
Idk. I (solo - warrior) ran one time so far and reached w109. Maybe my first strategy attempt was decent. One of my weapon didn’t proc so I insta died. Now I don’t know if the combo was bad for this wave or if I misclicked a hotbar. Gotta try same strategy again today just to verify ...

Edit: in dragkin temple, w93 or 94 was considerably more difficult than previous waves.
Anyone know what wave is difficult in this swamp temple?

Starts getting decently difficult after 105-108

Evilsorce
07-09-2021, 01:42 PM
YES! The game is not necessarily "new-player friendly" with the game have aged only experienced player really carry the gold and have a way of maneuvering, with this chest in place it will help the player base a whole lot and not to mention if you want the good gear you have to spend crazy amounts for a good gl set that won't ruin your stats and still be strong enough to kill mobs/bosses or *what I did* spend money during 2x plat/discount. Now that the player base is getting older, people only know certain people and close themselves with the gold. This will help the weaker become stronger giving opportunity to those that aren't quite there with stats. To end you can't run/farm anything if starts aren't good so once again thank you for this.

swoutttt
07-09-2021, 02:25 PM
I was able to reach wave 100+ easily I thought the enemies were boosted?
You also have an auto open chest in the vendor for 100 tokens per chest. Is this intended? This seems way too op I looted ebon vest from 5 opens.
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You should try it with a mage or a rogue.. the reason why you reach wave 100+ easely is because warriors are broken. You shouldn't mention mobs, but you should mention your broken class and broken items like glint aegis wich makes your event easy. I thought you was a type of person who cared for others. Did you even think about all the undergeared people who can barely reach wave 10? Or you want to make it harder so you can benefit from this event even more?

Encryptions
07-09-2021, 02:44 PM
You should try it with a mage or a rogue.. the reason why you reach wave 100+ easely is because warriors are broken. You shouldn't mention mobs, but you should mention your broken class and broken items like glint aegis wich makes your event easy. I thought you was a type of person who cared for others. Did you even think about all the undergeared people who can barely reach wave 10? Or you want to make it harder so you can benefit from this event even more?

1 Mage and rogue are able to pass wave 100 in solo. Have you checked the lb lately?
2 I don't even use glint aegis. I dislike glint aegis so I don't use it.
3 Swamp temple isn't considered as a "New Player" event, its a challenge event.
4 Read the recent posts and make sure your info is valid before you start accusing. 700k is around wave 104 which is when hell strikes.
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Undershooting
07-09-2021, 03:15 PM
Just cuz you’ve got gears for getting to lb, doesn’t mean they should make it hard for us normal players who had no intention of doing lb other than just running till boss wave ends

Encryptions
07-09-2021, 03:30 PM
Just cuz you’ve got gears for getting to lb, doesn’t mean they should make it hard for us normal players who had no intention of doing lb other than just running till boss wave ends

Can anyone tell me where I am asking to make the event harder? I simply made the thread to ask cinco if things were in the correct order.

swoutttt
07-09-2021, 03:36 PM
1 Mage and rogue are able to pass wave 100 in solo. Have you checked the lb lately?
2 I don't even use glint aegis. I dislike glint aegis so I don't use it.
3 Swamp temple isn't considered as a "New Player" event, its a challenge event.
4 Read the recent posts and make sure your info is valid before you start accusing. 700k is around wave 104 which is when hell strikes.
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I dont say rogues and mages aren't able to reach wave 100, very few can do that yes. But instead of showing the exceptions, let's talk about the majority and the minimum requirement to reach solo lb for each class. Mage 136k points, rogue 246k points, warriors 700k points. As you can see the majority of mages and rogues struggle with this event. Therefor evaluating event/mobs from a warriors perspective isnt fair.

Encryptions
07-09-2021, 03:37 PM
I dont say rogues and mages aren't able to reach wave 100, very few can do that yes. But instead of showing the exceptions, let's talk about the majority and the minimum requirement to reach solo lb for each class. Mage 136k points, rogue 246k points, warriors 700k points. As you can see the majority of mages and rogues struggle with this event. Therefor evaluating event/mobs from a warriors perspective isnt fair.

Then play as warrior. It won't die as easy as rog and mage and if you use eb aegis you can see numbers like this. 234796
Also quote my post in this thread as to where I am asking to buff the event enemies.

swoutttt
07-09-2021, 03:47 PM
Then play as warrior. It won't die as easy as rog and mage and if you use eb aegis you can see numbers like this. 234796
Also quote my post in this thread as to where I am asking to buff the event enemies.

Ty for the ss. Explains why there such differences in lb.

Encryptions
07-09-2021, 03:55 PM
Ty for the ss. Explains why there such differences in lb.

But I thought glint aegis was what was causing the difference in lb?

Undershooting
07-09-2021, 03:58 PM
Can anyone tell me where I am asking to make the event harder? I simply made the thread to ask cinco if things were in the correct order.

With your rhetorical question ‘I thought enemies were boosted’ , doesn’t that suggest you’re asking dev to make it harder?

swoutttt
07-09-2021, 04:00 PM
But I thought glint aegis was what was causing the difference in lb?

We both know the answer to that, idm if you keep info hidden.

Trolzerkeinstein
07-09-2021, 04:02 PM
@Undershooting:

Pretty much. Like why would he ask that question if he wasn’t expecting the event to be harder, right?

Kystone
07-09-2021, 04:15 PM
Bosses end at what, 19? Why is that even an argument? The scaling then would be minimal and u would still be able to achieve it. I was also hoping this temple would be harder, do u realize this doesn’t affect just warrs but everyone?

Encryptions
07-09-2021, 04:36 PM
With your rhetorical question ‘I thought enemies were boosted’ , doesn’t that suggest you’re asking dev to make it harder?

Its a simple question because I remember last year wave 104+ was when it got hard. This year its still the same 104+ gets hard. Thread was to ask if things are in proper order hence the title and you can see my reply that I was fine with it being easy still.
I personally don't care if they boost it or not, just wanted to make sure things were in proper order because if they weren't then they would of had to reset lb and adjust difficulty etc.

sanya
07-09-2021, 04:43 PM
Hope next temple event will not take 1h+ to get into solo lb :/ its too boring. Dragkin was perfect for me

Undershooting
07-09-2021, 04:47 PM
Its a simple question because I remember last year wave 104+ was when it got hard. This year its still the same 104+ gets hard. Thread was to ask if things are in proper order hence the title and you can see my reply that I was fine with it being easy still.
I personally don't care if they boost it or not, just wanted to make sure things were in proper order because if they weren't then they would of had to reset lb and adjust difficulty etc.

That sounds fair and reasonable :) I think the only reason it gets hard at that wave is so people are precise with what strategy they wanna use, if it was like wave 10, people would just keep running and trying everything until they would be sure of how they wanna play the map

Encryptions
07-09-2021, 04:48 PM
We both know the answer to that, idm if you keep info hidden.

Now here comes the thread "Nerf ebon aegis".

Oawaoebi
07-09-2021, 05:12 PM
To conclude, you guys are having gears worth hundreds of millions at like 10% stats per item (you know what I mean). Do you expect to be with those items as good as a low geared arc user? OFC NOT! You bought that gear to be way better than those guys and be able to compete in top of the top. You have gear with which lvl 91 mobs starts to be a bit difficulty. With that gears you enter the map and "Oh that event is too easy". I am pretty sure that many player struggle to kill all bosses till wave 20 because they don't have the luxury of having your kind of gear and his awakes. If you ask me giving everybody the same set like it is in honor PvP, it will give us a challenge against everyone with fair conditions or just make gear only count as clean item means no 10% per item awakes.

Achates
07-09-2021, 06:04 PM
To conclude, you guys are having gears worth hundreds of millions at like 10% stats per item (you know what I mean). Do you expect to be with those items as good as a low geared arc user? OFC NOT! You bought that gear to be way better than those guys and be able to compete in top of the top. You have gear with which lvl 91 mobs starts to be a bit difficulty. With that gears you enter the map and "Oh that event is too easy". I am pretty sure that many player struggle to kill all bosses till wave 20 because they don't have the luxury of having your kind of gear and his awakes. If you ask me giving everybody the same set like it is in honor PvP, it will give us a challenge against everyone with fair conditions or just make gear only count as clean item means no 10% per item awakes.
This is true, lots of us still have hard time to kill those bosses and mobs even lots of us died before wave 19 :)

Repent
07-09-2021, 06:39 PM
Well I think the beginning of the event up until the bosses are cleared at wave 19 is just fine but after that, it should be harder so that we aren't forced to run for 1 hour + just for top 50. I see what encryptions is saying I don't think he is asking for the start of the event to be made harder but rather those middle waves so to speak like from wave 30+ As a war myself I am able to make it to round 105 without much difficulty but past that it is extremely difficult and if a single weapon refuses to proc then that is it. If the difficulty of the event at later stages can't be increased would it be possible to have a practice zone or something so we can go against high waves without being in lb but just to test things out? I think that would be fun for everyone and even low lvl players can see how high of a wave they can achieve without wasting precious time and gold. Let me emphasize I am not asking for the start of the event to be harder I think the bosses and first 20 waves are just fine it is the later waves that are grueling because they are just a waste of time I would love for it to become harder at wave 50 rather than 105. - Atoned