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Fatcowdee
07-10-2021, 06:30 AM
I know STS has a simple policy that if you gift stuff, it doesn’t fall under the ambit of scamming. However, there are a lot of trusting, gullible people prone to getting scammed through the gifting mechanic. I think it’s high time the devs address this issue.

I propose a loan mechanic through an NPC / trading hub where two private parties can enter into a loan arrangement for gear or essentially anything tradable in game for a specified number of days 1/3/5/7 max. The borrower can pay the Fee to the NPC, whatever STS determines to be suitable. The lent items are automatically marked with a ‘heart’ that cannot be altered by the borrower (hence cannot be traded and/or deleted). After the time period expires, the items are automatically returned to the NPC and the lender can collect them.

This could be a final measure, after which STS can truly say it has done all to prevent scamming.

Fake_Stats
07-10-2021, 06:49 AM
Good idea actualy, there might be some problems tho like lets say lender needs the item back urgently and that specific amount of time didnt pass yet? What happens then

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tripexxx
07-10-2021, 06:52 AM
I know STS has a simple policy that if you gift stuff, it doesn’t fall under the ambit of scamming. However, there are a lot of trusting, gullible people prone to getting scammed through the gifting mechanic. I think it’s high time the devs address this issue.

I propose a loan mechanic through an NPC / trading hub where two private parties can enter into a loan arrangement for gear or essentially anything tradable in game for a specified number of days 1/3/5/7 max. The borrower can pay the Fee to the NPC, whatever STS determines to be suitable. The lent items are automatically marked with a ‘heart’ that cannot be altered by the borrower (hence cannot be traded and/or deleted). After the time period expires, the items are automatically returned to the NPC and the lender can collect them.

This could be a final measure, after which STS can truly say it has done all to prevent scamming.Nice Idea , sadly dont see it happening :(
+1 for sure Though

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Yamatee
07-10-2021, 07:02 AM
Haha nice +1
Equipment rental service will be available. I want to rent Ava set xD

gilsooon
07-10-2021, 07:23 AM
-1 this will lead to rental of items for gold. No sense of hardworking for huge gold anymore when you can rent.

Smokedboy
07-10-2021, 07:27 AM
+1 i think is good for the game. fix many scam problems.

putoshomai
07-10-2021, 07:33 AM
for me its a good idea at the same time its bad ....
Yes the player can avoid getting scam ...

But the market or market economy of Arcane Legends will slowly die or Will be in chaos...

its like " Why should i buy if i can rent items "

But i believe its a good idea if the player of AL increase but if not its a disaster.

But still i want to know how can it help our current situation.
i maybe wrong..

+1

Lil sez
07-10-2021, 07:34 AM
Solid idea tbh, even if rentals come from this then both parties would benefit regardless +1

Xshankyx
07-10-2021, 09:39 AM
If i can rent why i would buy ?

firebelt & crystalkiller
07-10-2021, 09:55 AM
-1
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Crocodile
07-10-2021, 10:15 AM
I always have option to rent but still i prefer to own the thing..why rent when u can buy it?

+111111

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QuaseT
07-10-2021, 11:17 AM
-1

The main desire to play mmorpgs comes from the difficulty to acquire items. Anything that contradicts with this seems like a shortcut/lazyness to me. Just don't lend; play and buy your own items.

gilsooon
07-10-2021, 11:24 AM
I think for those gullible lenders/scammed should adjust not the whole community. I blame more the scammed than the scammer lol. Why would you lend items without collateral or trust players in game. Every trade is final and thats sad :(. Be wise never trust any in game and if there are scammers ss it and email it to sts. Again never engage in trust test/lend someone you don't know in real life. 2 cents..

Fatcowdee
07-10-2021, 12:50 PM
Ok two issues identified by people:

1) loaning gear will kill economy: people are still lending stuff as is. So this doesn’t change anything. This is just lending in a more controlled environment. Also lender can be inconvenienced as pointed out by Fake Stats, which is why you do it thoughtfully and for an amount of time you can safely afford. We can also look into lending for a shorter duration like 1/2/3 days.

2) only npc (sts) is paid a fee. Borrower doesn’t pay the lender anything, so lender cannot profit from such an arrangement.

Stephencobear
07-10-2021, 01:44 PM
1) loaning gear will kill economy: people are still lending stuff as is. So this doesn’t change anything.

Ppl are loaning gear now, & if loans are added then it will absolutely change something.
If you add a reason for ppl to not work hard for what they want, they won’t & there will be more begging for loans, & less ppl running maps to earn what they want.

Perogol
07-10-2021, 02:06 PM
+1 and -1 at the same time haha

firebelt & crystalkiller
07-10-2021, 02:08 PM
Biggest and foremost problem..if this is the case a major part of player base won't have the need to buy gears or farm them..they can just take for lend the opest gears and use em..which would make the game super boring ..cuz u already tried the strongest stuff..why do u wanna keep playing and earn gold?

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PatD
07-10-2021, 02:14 PM
This completely contradict the dynamic of this game, main goal is to work hard to be able to get items, like many said, if u can rent, why buy?

-11111

Charles_Shadwick
07-10-2021, 03:35 PM
I believe an idea of this sort was recommeneded a few years ago for Star Legends a legacy game for STS. Unfortunately didnt happen.

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capeo
07-10-2021, 07:15 PM
Ummm, people would just not use the npc.

konafez
07-10-2021, 09:07 PM
how bout this

if someone wants to use your item/gear ..get gold or item of the same value..that way if they run off with your stuff you have the collateral that was given

problem solved

Perogol
07-10-2021, 09:56 PM
how bout this

if someone wants to use your item/gear ..get gold or item of the same value..that way if they run off with your stuff you have the collateral that was given

problem solved
yeah but some ppl just cannot help themself lend their item to ppl that they trust without holding item and get scammed sad.

profmsb
07-10-2021, 10:57 PM
very nice idea...only few people spent plat n gold to buy op gear...n other just can lend it...

Fatcowdee
07-11-2021, 08:12 AM
Again, you can only lend to one person for a short duration. I don’t see how that would impact the economy anymore than it it already is being impacted with friends lending stuff to each other. All I’m proposing is a control mechanism for the lending so that borrower cannot scam.

gilsooon
07-11-2021, 08:31 AM
Again, you can only lend to one person for a short duration. I don’t see how that would impact the economy anymore than it it already is being impacted with friends lending stuff to each other. All I’m proposing is a control mechanism for the lending so that borrower cannot scam.

it will lead to further new scams because lender will ask pay me rent first then well trade in the npc. There will always be under the table gold agreement. Sorry for the word but only "Noobs" get scammed. Dont engage in lending/trust test, doesnt really makes any sense if you want to help him then go with him to his map. It's the precaution of every player not to get scammed, it's your decision to be scammed and the whole community should not adjust because of many repercussions out of the gullible players. And have you tried test server of AL? when everyone have infinite gold and have access on everything he wants to, is that what you want? I think that is just being lazy out there better work for your items that you want than getting it effortless. Basically when you can rent you would not need to buy anymore 99/100 will agree its basic census Science. 5 cents...