Eli Holden

[Floating]

Asjss

I believe that Eli will be fixed when the new content update goes out.




Carapace may chime in on this, but just wanted to let you know that we've uncovered a bug with Eli Holden. After your feedback, the team went looking to make sure he was working as intended. Apparently, he's not quite. Looks like the fix will be held up to go out when the new game client (currently in review with Apple) goes out.

[ArtStar]

He is a super rare, that's the theory but I don't think it has been confirmed yet that I've seen.
Testament has been offering 100k for his head, and has been looking for him for a while now if you're interested.

[Floating]

I know. I have been farming him for Testa and for the reward :D that is why I am asking. To be sure to farm him correctly

[ArtStar]

Ahh I see lol, good luck! :D

[Floating]

Thank you. Farming him is so hard ... I like challenges though :)

[Xaphan Fox]

Price for his head is now 150,000

[Sky../]

That hard to find huh? Which maps are confirmed to spawn him? Death from above?

Reading his description, he owns a hunting store and hunts more than animals. So city area, probably one with a hunting store as a background.

[Skeokateva]

That hard to find huh? Which maps are confirmed to spawn him? Death from above?.
No confirmations yet on this map the speculation comes from this map being to only one not having any other reported spawns, and eli having no reported sightings.
At least that's what I've been told, so far no certainty on either that map or eli:p


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[Sky../]

I see. If i may make a suggestion, find anyone who plays with an unlocked cam view and ask hem to run all 3d mission that are in a city setting (red light district, downtown suburbs, slums) checking for background, specifically for an outdoor sporting goods store.

I'd help but i can't play non locked cam. I get lost and i'm annoyed by the up down angle. (the swivel like PL is fine though).

[Floating]

You beleive one map has 2 rare bosses sky??
I like unlocked cam more. Death from above does not have a shoping background

[Sky../]

Low possibility, but not impossible. Until a dev comes out and says there are no map with 2 bosses, we can't rule it out.

[Lady_Pebbles]

Considering the fact that Execution bosses drop in some of the same locations (like Agra Ek and Ellie Fantone spawning in both The Witch's Lair and Cultist Crypt), I think its safe to say that Eli Holden will spawn in more than one map.

[DeathFrost]

Can anyone with the achievement confirm Eli Holden spawns at Gallow: Death from above?
I've been hunting ELI HOLDEN far longer than anyone else. My PVE kills was 80k at that time and now its almost 130k kills. Aside from Eli Holden i have killed everyone on that list at least 2x, some more than 5x already. My point is, maybe its about time STS should check on this. Maybe Fox is right? An Execution Spawn Bug or something? Please check DEVS and stop making us look like a fool on hunting for som1 that don't exist!!!!

[Floating]

I've been hunting ELI HOLDEN far longer than anyone else. My PVE kills was 80k at that time and now its almost 130k kills. Aside from Eli Holden i have killed everyone on that list at least 2x, some more than 5x already. My point is, maybe its about time STS should check on this. Maybe Fox is right? An Execution Spawn Bug or something? Please check DEVS and stop making us look like a fool on hunting for som1 that don't exist!!!!

Thats the main point of this thread. When noone has found him they should check it out!!!

[StompArtist]

So, what if he doesn't spawn? lol

[Lady_Pebbles]

So, what if he doesn't spawn? lol
Then we shall rage on and demand he gets fixed. XD lol Hell, we're already at that point. Smh.

[Flowman]

So, what if he doesn't spawn? lol
I've called it in game already, he doesn't exist yet and it's a super sneaky way to keep us playing the game trying to finish the achievements :D
Those Devs are smart.

[Floating]

Maybe Flowman haha... You are beyond my logic :D Anyways they should fix it. As an ambassador you should ask Delphina or Airre what they know about the issue! AND I MEAN YOU HAVE TO INVESTIGATE THEIR LOGS @.@ (nah dont do thataaat)

[Flowman]

Maybe Flowman haha... You are beyond my logic :D Anyways they should fix it. As an ambassador you should ask Delphina or Airre what they know about the issue! AND I MEAN YOU HAVE TO INVESTIGATE THEIR LOGS @.@ (nah dont do thataaat)

What if I was in on it the whole time?

#ConspiracyTheory

[Floating]

What if I was in on it the whole time?

#ConspiracyTheory

Then you should get some popcorn, a beer, a pizza, an elf, a treeman, a Santa Claus and create the theory of Devspirancy, Dev-conspirancy!

Just to help you it would start like this: Once upon a time I was eating popcorn pizza and drinking beers. When I was finally drank the Santa Claus seemed green to me and I started wondering about the Devs making us farm and farm to raise our pve kills in a hard struggling try to find the rear hunter named Eli Holden. Whenever a poor farmer was near him Samhayne closed the servers. If someone finally found him a virus was sent to his phone through DL and at 10% of ELIS hp his screen became black, he died and a message saying:
"Sorry you found Eli" appeared....
The next part of the theory is yours ^.^

[Carapace]

Eli Holden has been the source of many threads, and typically we don't intervene to reflect on anything like this. Since he has been problematic for a lot of people however I will confirm the information you already know.

He DOES spawn in Death From Above, in Gallows Alley Slums and is one of the rarest of the spawns! You guys did make me check the game to make sure however (bugs do happen and you guys have been hunting for so long after all), and I can confirm he is right where he is supposed to be. Happy Hunting :)

[Lady_Pebbles]

Eli Holden has been the source of many threads, and typically we don't intervene to reflect on anything like this. Since he has been problematic for a lot of people however I will confirm the information you already know.

He DOES spawn in Death From Above, in Gallows Alley Slums and is one of the rarest of the spawns! You guys did make me check the game to make sure however (bugs do happen and you guys have been hunting for so long after all), and I can confirm he is right where he is supposed to be. Happy Hunting :)
Finally confirmation! thank you!

Aight back to hunting. Test... I will let ya know luv.

[Xaphan Fox]

I am sure he spawns in Death from Above.

I am sure he is rare.

I am not so sure he has been turned on.

I have a feeling this achievement progress is being gated.

When the expansion rolls out, if all of a sudden people are seeing him left and right... I'ma eat a whole tub of icecream in sadness after all the time put in=P

[StompArtist]

I am sure he spawns in Death from Above.

I am sure he is rare.

I am not so sure he has been turned on.

I have a feeling this achievement progress is being gated.

When the expansion rolls out, if all of a sudden people are seeing him left and right... I'ma eat a whole tub of icecream in sadness after all the time put in=P

So you are saying that STS has a hidden business agreement with Blue Bell?

[Xaphan Fox]

A secret agenda to depress me so I get fat... and then can ONLY sit on my arse and play on my tablet...

[Floating]

Eli Holden has been the source of many threads, and typically we don't intervene to reflect on anything like this. Since he has been problematic for a lot of people however I will confirm the information you already know.

He DOES spawn in Death From Above, in Gallows Alley Slums and is one of the rarest of the spawns! You guys did make me check the game to make sure however (bugs do happen and you guys have been hunting for so long after all), and I can confirm he is right where he is supposed to be. Happy Hunting :)


I think stomp still does not beleive you :D

[wvhills]

I think stomp still does not beleive you :D

I think carapace checked the tables and saw everything was right. I also think there's something wrong. I understand a rare spawn rate but so rare that people have done thousands of runs and haven't seen him? Also, he didn't say he was THE rarest spawn he said he was one of the rarest so that leads me to believe there are others that are either rarer or just as rare. It just seems to me like something is wrong if several people have gotten the other rare spawns and eli remains unseen while being the focus of more farming.

[StompArtist]

I think carapace checked the tables and saw everything was right. I also think there's something wrong. I understand a rare spawn rate but so rare that people have done thousands of runs and haven't seen him? Also, he didn't say he was THE rarest spawn he said he was one of the rarest so that leads me to believe there are others that are either rarer or just as rare. It just seems to me like something is wrong if several people have gotten the other rare spawns and eli remains unseen while being the focus of more farming.

Either that or the drop rate is unreal... something like 0.5 chances in a million. lol

[Xaphan Fox]

Carapace,

You say he is rare...

You say he spawns in Death from Above...

You say he has the correct spawn rate...

You say he is working as intended...



...can you kindly answer if it is possible for him to spawn?

All of the above can be true and Eli can still be locked out to control achievement progress until expansion.

*Can* Eli Holden, the way he is configured right now, spawn before the expansion, or any future event?

Think that phrasing covers all my bases haha:p

And if the answer to the above is yes, don't you think he is too rare?

I've obsessed over him for 3 weeks.

75+k worth of pve skills in Death from Above, offering the community 200k for his head, buying energy refills during half off event, around 22 people hunting him for me that check in daily, someone of them have their own teams of people...

And I can name prolly 5 people doing this... some longer than me.

That isn't including the people we don't know about.

I don't think it is a stretch to say that no one has seen him. And I mean no one. No even the random player just passing through.

This *can't* be intended.

I am not asking for a handout. I think I, and others, have shown we don't mind working for something...

But this is crazy.


Bark bark

Woof

[Flowman]

He's Eli Holden on till the next map pack.

[Floating]

Maybe he is camouflaged into another rare boss so that we cant see him and cant farm him @.O Caraspace chose his words wisely but our guys need to be told the truth... I mean why farm him 3 weeks and not find him at all? It is just weird... In WoW there were items with 0.001% drop chance but some people found them....

[StompArtist]

Maybe he is invisible. Have y'all try fighting the air?

[Floating]

Maybe he is invisible. Have y'all try fighting the air?

I fought with a tent once... Unfortunately it won...

[Spooks]

Hi all,

This is my first post in a forum ever. I usually try to discreet, maybe hence the name. But in fact there is no relation between my nickname and my discretion.

I am a very happy player of STS legends games with four characters at L41 in Star Legends and two characters at L21 in Dark Legends. I also follow the forums since more recently and admire the time and talent spent by certain players on guides, charts and walkthroughs.

In this forum there seems to be numerous threads on the executions achievement and among them several are particularly dedicated to Eli Holden. All of them with essentially feeds from the same four or five players who only have one execution left. I found one of the posts relevant as to ask if the spawn of Eli was working or not and the rest a succession of moanings, beggings and expresssion of frustration. And yesterday something happened that transformed me from a happy grinder to a disappointed player which pushed to post for the first time.

I can understand the frustration of certain players for searching for long. I have been searching (and still looking) for Bishop since the last three weeks and Armand Wilfried just before for two weeks on an average of 178.4 runs a day of the same map calculated on my PvE kills and the number of mobs in the map. I have been hunting executions actively since a week or two before the Apple release of the game so maybe longer or as long as some players. I have never moaned, whinged on the rarity of the executions and take the game as a nice challenge that keeps me logging on with pleasure even after l21.
I leave the chances of finding them to grinding, the gods of game and Lady luck.

Now Carapace has been very nice to confirm in another thread that the Eli did spawn and there was no coding error. This news should have been enough to stimulate players to continue searching for him but instead it has lead to more begging or transforming the game to make his spawn more frequent.

I have no figures but suppose logically that there are more players with two, three or four executions remaining than the four or five players with one execution left who post repetitively on different Eli threads.

So when Carapace posts above yesterday to confirm that Eli Holden spawns in Death from above, it undeniably gives a strong advantage or head start to a minority of four or five players with only one execution left for being the first to obtain the Death Incarnate achievement.
I am sure Carapace's post was made with good intentions but it has hindered the chances of a lot of players for the interests of a happy few and biased the game.

To conclude I would say:

- I will continue to hunt the executions for my personal satisfaction even if my chances as well as others to be the first to obtain the execution achievement has been diminished.

- I will of course not ask Spacetime Studios to alter the game again to put all players on equal chances to be the first to obtain the execution achievement.

- Continue to share my executions by inviting people. Especially Eli when I find him as promised.

- Would like to remind players that even if there is a rare great open minded attitude from developer team eager on feed back, that it is to them to adapt to rules of the game and not the game to adapt to their rules. It diminishes not only their fun but in the case of an MMO the fun for others.

- Ask players not to pretend speaking on behalf of a lot or all players when it is the case of personal interests.

- Ask players to try to complain, beg, whinge only once, as twice or more becomes irritating to read. Be happy with the information provided already and in the case of Fox of the 22+ multiplied chances of finding Eli compared to others (if I read the post on the amount of players seeking for the ransom well)

- For developers maybe a further consideration on not to "intervene to reflect on anything" even under repetitive pressure of a loud minority of players.

- And above all I would like to wish all executions hunters good luck for obtaining the title as it is a nice challenge in the game.

Short first post out :-P

[Nassar]

What he said.

It's a numbers game. This is the state lottery and, as percentages would indicate, we're losing it day after day.

[Xaphan Fox]

Hi all,

This is my first post in a forum ever. I usually try to discreet, maybe hence the name. But in fact there is no relation between my nickname and my discretion.

I am a very happy player of STS legends games with four characters at L41 in Star Legends and two characters at L21 in Dark Legends. I also follow the forums since more recently and admire the time and talent spent by certain players on guides, charts and walkthroughs.

In this forum there seems to be numerous threads on the executions achievement and among them several are particularly dedicated to Eli Holden. All of them with essentially feeds from the same four or five players who only have one execution left. I found one of the posts relevant as to ask if the spawn of Eli was working or not and the rest a succession of moanings, beggings and expresssion of frustration. And yesterday something happened that transformed me from a happy grinder to a disappointed player which pushed to post for the first time.

I can understand the frustration of certain players for searching for long. I have been searching (and still looking) for Bishop since the last three weeks and Armand Wilfried just before for two weeks on an average of 178.4 runs a day of the same map calculated on my PvE kills and the number of mobs in the map. I have been hunting executions actively since a week or two before the Apple release of the game so maybe longer or as long as some players. I have never moaned, whinged on the rarity of the executions and take the game as a nice challenge that keeps me logging on with pleasure even after l21.
I leave the chances of finding them to grinding, the gods of game and Lady luck.

Now Carapace has been very nice to confirm in another thread that the Eli did spawn and there was no coding error. This news should have been enough to stimulate players to continue searching for him but instead it has lead to more begging or transforming the game to make his spawn more frequent.

I have no figures but suppose logically that there are more players with two, three or four executions remaining than the four or five players with one execution left who post repetitively on different Eli threads.

So when Carapace posts above yesterday to confirm that Eli Holden spawns in Death from above, it undeniably gives a strong advantage or head start to a minority of four or five players with only one execution left for being the first to obtain the Death Incarnate achievement.
I am sure Carapace's post was made with good intentions but it has hindered the chances of a lot of players for the interests of a happy few and biased the game.

To conclude I would say:

- I will continue to hunt the executions for my personal satisfaction even if my chances as well as others to be the first to obtain the execution achievement has been diminished.

- I will of course not ask Spacetime Studios to alter the game again to put all players on equal chances to be the first to obtain the execution achievement.

- Continue to share my executions by inviting people. Especially Eli when I find him as promised.

- Would like to remind players that even if there is a rare great open minded attitude from developer team eager on feed back, that it is to them to adapt to rules of the game and not the game to adapt to their rules. It diminishes not only their fun but in the case of an MMO the fun for others.

- Ask players not to pretend speaking on behalf of a lot or all players when it is the case of personal interests.

- Ask players to try to complain, beg, whinge only once, as twice or more becomes irritating to read. Be happy with the information provided already and in the case of Fox of the 22+ multiplied chances of finding Eli compared to others (if I read the post on the amount of players seeking for the ransom well)

- For developers maybe a further consideration on not to "intervene to reflect on anything" even under repetitive pressure of a loud minority of players.

- And above all I would like to wish all executions hunters good luck for obtaining the title as it is a nice challenge in the game.

Short first post out :-P

I could care less about being first...

I just want to do other stuff lol.

His words didn't give anyone an advantage...

It just verified what we already knew.

178 runs a day? You use 534 energy daily?

The posts might sound a bit complainy, but it's feedback the devs should hear.

If a few people had just bishop left... or just Agra left... it would be different.

But all being stuck on Eli is a bit weird. Numbers game aside, it seems a bit odd.

Especially considering the compounded odds some of us are employing, you'd think after weeks would yield some fruit.

It is a pleasure to meet you btw, but kindly change your tone. It feels like your talking down at us.

The few of us with Eli left communicate with each other and are attempting to invite each other so we can all get it.

I don't feel we are asking for a handout. We just wanted confirmation on something that appeared/appears broke.

I don't mind rare things, but asking for it to still be rare, but slightly tweaked in the player's favor isn't a negative.

It wold be nice if whoever gets it first, and the other hundreds of players to follow, didn't have to farm *anything* exclusively for a month with no success.

Especially with the reward being a title that isn't taking the place of the guild tag I love more than any title.

Wouldn't you like Eli? We are trying to help you too. This isn't some I want it first elitism...

You don't know me/us or what motivates us. Carapace did nothing wrong, showed no favoritism, and did not hurt your chances.

Welcome to the forums...

Woof

[Lady_Pebbles]

Testament (the handsome fox) said it best. Yes I was happy to get some type of confirmation but sadly I assumed he spawns (normally I don't assume anything). So I went and continued trying throughout the day and night, hoping he will spawn since Im way over the amount of days it took me to get Agra-Ek & Reverend Levon James to spawn (took 5 days each... Its been weeks trying to get Eli to spawn).

However, whats the point in trying if he might not even spawn?

This is really becoming a waste of time for an achievement that merely gives us AP points to help unlock the title. After all of this we seriously deserve more than just a title lol :-P.

Yeah I said it. >__>

Its not about elitism. Its about wanting to finish what we started & not having to waste anymore time trying to get an execution to spawn when he might not be spawnable to begin with.

[Floating]

Testament (the handsome fox) said it best. Yes I was happy to get some type of confirmation but sadly I assumed he spawns (normally I don't assume anything). So I went and continued trying throughout the day and night, hoping he will spawn since Im way over the amount of days it took me to get Agra-Ek & Reverend Levon James to spawn (took 5 days each... Its been weeks trying to get Eli to spawn).

However, whats the point in trying if he might not even spawn?

This is really becoming a waste of time for an achievement that merely gives us AP points to help unlock the title. After all of this we seriously deserve more than just a title lol :-P.

Yeah I said it. >__>

Its not about elitism. Its about wanting to finish what we started & not having to waste anymore time trying to get an execution to spawn when he might not be spawnable to begin with.




Thren pwned you @.O

[Floating]

Hi all,

This is my first post in a forum ever. I usually try to discreet, maybe hence the name. But in fact there is no relation between my nickname and my discretion.

I am a very happy player of STS legends games with four characters at L41 in Star Legends and two characters at L21 in Dark Legends. I also follow the forums since more recently and admire the time and talent spent by certain players on guides, charts and walkthroughs.

In this forum there seems to be numerous threads on the executions achievement and among them several are particularly dedicated to Eli Holden. All of them with essentially feeds from the same four or five players who only have one execution left. I found one of the posts relevant as to ask if the spawn of Eli was working or not and the rest a succession of moanings, beggings and expresssion of frustration. And yesterday something happened that transformed me from a happy grinder to a disappointed player which pushed to post for the first time.

I can understand the frustration of certain players for searching for long. I have been searching (and still looking) for Bishop since the last three weeks and Armand Wilfried just before for two weeks on an average of 178.4 runs a day of the same map calculated on my PvE kills and the number of mobs in the map. I have been hunting executions actively since a week or two before the Apple release of the game so maybe longer or as long as some players. I have never moaned, whinged on the rarity of the executions and take the game as a nice challenge that keeps me logging on with pleasure even after l21.
I leave the chances of finding them to grinding, the gods of game and Lady luck.

Now Carapace has been very nice to confirm in another thread that the Eli did spawn and there was no coding error. This news should have been enough to stimulate players to continue searching for him but instead it has lead to more begging or transforming the game to make his spawn more frequent.

I have no figures but suppose logically that there are more players with two, three or four executions remaining than the four or five players with one execution left who post repetitively on different Eli threads.

So when Carapace posts above yesterday to confirm that Eli Holden spawns in Death from above, it undeniably gives a strong advantage or head start to a minority of four or five players with only one execution left for being the first to obtain the Death Incarnate achievement.
I am sure Carapace's post was made with good intentions but it has hindered the chances of a lot of players for the interests of a happy few and biased the game.

To conclude I would say:

- I will continue to hunt the executions for my personal satisfaction even if my chances as well as others to be the first to obtain the execution achievement has been diminished.

- I will of course not ask Spacetime Studios to alter the game again to put all players on equal chances to be the first to obtain the execution achievement.

- Continue to share my executions by inviting people. Especially Eli when I find him as promised.

- Would like to remind players that even if there is a rare great open minded attitude from developer team eager on feed back, that it is to them to adapt to rules of the game and not the game to adapt to their rules. It diminishes not only their fun but in the case of an MMO the fun for others.

- Ask players not to pretend speaking on behalf of a lot or all players when it is the case of personal interests.

- Ask players to try to complain, beg, whinge only once, as twice or more becomes irritating to read. Be happy with the information provided already and in the case of Fox of the 22+ multiplied chances of finding Eli compared to others (if I read the post on the amount of players seeking for the ransom well)

- For developers maybe a further consideration on not to "intervene to reflect on anything" even under repetitive pressure of a loud minority of players.

- And above all I would like to wish all executions hunters good luck for obtaining the title as it is a nice challenge in the game.

Short first post out :-P


-----I understand your point Spooks. Here is the thing though: Think of the "luck" of those 5 players and the other players that do not use the forums as much as them to post here. Now think of his spawn rate, lets say 0.001%. If i can correctly assume that Testament has done over 1000 runs there, Thren over 700 runs there and Judgement I cant even imagine ho wmany runs, including Deathfrost gaining over 50k kills there , with 67 mobs per map, i assume there have been at least 5000 runs at that map, with the people not using forums and the randoms playing this game.
With at least 5000 runs the chance is around 5%.
-----You actually beleive this rare boss is not bugged?! Let's get to reality. Even in PL the new vanities have around 0.01% drop rate and I am sure SL does too. There "luck" as you say and the |numbers| do not coincide on anything...
Sorry to ruin you trying to farm your bosses but Sir THIS BOSS DOES N O T E X I S T.
----Thank you for reading this! Bye

[Prestige]

Hi all,

This is my first post in a forum ever. I usually try to discreet, maybe hence the name. But in fact there is no relation between my nickname and my discretion.

I am a very happy player of STS legends games with four characters at L41 in Star Legends and two characters at L21 in Dark Legends. I also follow the forums since more recently and admire the time and talent spent by certain players on guides, charts and walkthroughs.

In this forum there seems to be numerous threads on the executions achievement and among them several are particularly dedicated to Eli Holden. All of them with essentially feeds from the same four or five players who only have one execution left. I found one of the posts relevant as to ask if the spawn of Eli was working or not and the rest a succession of moanings, beggings and expresssion of frustration. And yesterday something happened that transformed me from a happy grinder to a disappointed player which pushed to post for the first time.

I can understand the frustration of certain players for searching for long. I have been searching (and still looking) for Bishop since the last three weeks and Armand Wilfried just before for two weeks on an average of 178.4 runs a day of the same map calculated on my PvE kills and the number of mobs in the map. I have been hunting executions actively since a week or two before the Apple release of the game so maybe longer or as long as some players. I have never moaned, whinged on the rarity of the executions and take the game as a nice challenge that keeps me logging on with pleasure even after l21.
I leave the chances of finding them to grinding, the gods of game and Lady luck.

Now Carapace has been very nice to confirm in another thread that the Eli did spawn and there was no coding error. This news should have been enough to stimulate players to continue searching for him but instead it has lead to more begging or transforming the game to make his spawn more frequent.

I have no figures but suppose logically that there are more players with two, three or four executions remaining than the four or five players with one execution left who post repetitively on different Eli threads.

So when Carapace posts above yesterday to confirm that Eli Holden spawns in Death from above, it undeniably gives a strong advantage or head start to a minority of four or five players with only one execution left for being the first to obtain the Death Incarnate achievement.
I am sure Carapace's post was made with good intentions but it has hindered the chances of a lot of players for the interests of a happy few and biased the game.

To conclude I would say:

- I will continue to hunt the executions for my personal satisfaction even if my chances as well as others to be the first to obtain the execution achievement has been diminished.

- I will of course not ask Spacetime Studios to alter the game again to put all players on equal chances to be the first to obtain the execution achievement.

- Continue to share my executions by inviting people. Especially Eli when I find him as promised.

- Would like to remind players that even if there is a rare great open minded attitude from developer team eager on feed back, that it is to them to adapt to rules of the game and not the game to adapt to their rules. It diminishes not only their fun but in the case of an MMO the fun for others.

- Ask players not to pretend speaking on behalf of a lot or all players when it is the case of personal interests.

- Ask players to try to complain, beg, whinge only once, as twice or more becomes irritating to read. Be happy with the information provided already and in the case of Fox of the 22+ multiplied chances of finding Eli compared to others (if I read the post on the amount of players seeking for the ransom well)

- For developers maybe a further consideration on not to "intervene to reflect on anything" even under repetitive pressure of a loud minority of players.

- And above all I would like to wish all executions hunters good luck for obtaining the title as it is a nice challenge in the game.

Short first post out :-P


-----I understand your point Spooks. Here is the thing though: Think of the "luck" of those 5 players and the other players that do not use the forums as much as them to post here. Now think of his spawn rate, lets say 0.001%. If i can correctly assume that Testament has done over 1000 runs there, Thren over 700 runs there and Judgement I cant even imagine ho wmany runs, including Deathfrost gaining over 50k kills there , with 67 mobs per map, i assume there have been at least 5000 runs at that map, with the people not using forums and the randoms playing this game.
With at least 5000 runs the chance is around 5%.
-----You actually beleive this rare boss is not bugged?! Let's get to reality. Even in PL the new vanities have around 0.01% drop rate and I am sure SL does too. There "luck" as you say and the |numbers| do not coincide on anything...
Sorry to ruin you trying to farm your bosses but Sir THIS BOSS DOES N O T E X I S T.
----Thank you for reading this! Bye

I've done around 100k kills and have yet to find a single vanity in SL. I don't think you can say the chances of getting a vanity are around 0.01% for SL which is (1 in 10,000). Maybe the newer ones, but I must be extremely unlucky if the old ones had that high of a chance of dropping vanities.

[Floating]

I've done around 100k kills and have yet to find a single vanity in SL. I don't think you can say the chances of getting a vanity are around 0.01% for SL which is (1 in 10,000). Maybe the newer ones, but I must be exItremely unlucky if the old ones had that high of a chance of dropping vanities.

Still people find 2 sometimes from a boss. My point is that, ow well some people FIND them. In DL noone has found them. And in SL drop rate is less than 1:10000 I can assure you. You are just being unlucky :(

[Jake Miller]

To the vampire who assists me in finding Eli Holden..

-Invite me to the game before Eli has been defeated, and receive a financial blessing.
This isn't a scam, but depending on how long it takes to actually get an invite,
I will decide the amount at that time!

-If my Eli gets killed anytime today,
I can assure a solid reward of atleast 200-300k gold!

-In addition, if anyone is focusing on executions.. PLEASE! PM me!
I will help, invite, and continue to search and I will remain in contact!
I may sound like a noob, but I dont ask for help with much so IDK a sophisticated way of
making this request.

[Dragonrider023]

Are u looking for me.

[Floating]

Are u looking for me.

@.o How did you know~!??!?!?!

[Shaocalur]

Let the long hours of farming begin... oh wait.

[DeathFrost]

Eli Holden has been the source of many threads, and typically we don't intervene to reflect on anything like this. Since he has been problematic for a lot of people however I will confirm the information you already know.

He DOES spawn in Death From Above, in Gallows Alley Slums and is one of the rarest of the spawns! You guys did make me check the game to make sure however (bugs do happen and you guys have been hunting for so long after all), and I can confirm he is right where he is supposed to be. Happy Hunting :)

With all due respect , i have been hunting for that dammmm Eli Holden for almost 2 mos. now. Offering bounty to my guildmates (300k) and others (200k) and still no one have found him yet. Before me, the closest so far on completing that Execution List needs about 10 kills , now i can name 10 who is hunting down Eli Holden. How rare is rare huh? 2 frkn mos. dammit!!!!! (excuse my french)..:grumpy::grumpy:

[ArtStar]

How rare is rare huh? 2 frkn mos. dammit!!!!! (excuse my french)..:grumpy::grumpy:

Eli is like an xray drop rare.

[Floating]

With all due respect , i have been hunting for that dammmm Eli Holden for almost 2 mos. now. Offering bounty to my guildmates (300k) and others (200k) and still no one have found him yet. Before me, the closest so far on completing that Execution List needs about 10 kills , now i can name 10 who is hunting down Eli Holden. How rare is rare huh? 2 frkn mos. dammit!!!!! (excuse my french)..:grumpy::grumpy:
You are right man.. Testa gave up on trying along with me and some others as this is a ghost Boss

[DeathFrost]

Eli is like an xray drop rare.

Lol Art..Less than a mos after it was released,u can already see at least 10 ppl using x-ray in SL..Eli Holden is way more rare...so rare that nobody seen him yet:chargrined::chargrined::chargrined:

[Xaphan Fox]

I am still positive this is a gated experience.
Meaning he isn't wired to spawn yet.
They prolly waiting till expansion rolls out to unlock him while people plow through the new achievements.

I refuse to believe this is just us being defeated by math.

woof

[Takezaki]

Anyone mentionned finding him, ever?

[Floating]

Anyone mentionned finding him, ever?

As it has been stated before.... n o :(

[ArtStar]

Gosh I wish I could find him xD

[mafiainc42]

You have a better chance of finding HOLDIN in Meat Heads Deli then finding him where he is suppose to be.

[Floating]

You have a better chance of finding HOLDIN in Meat Heads Deli then finding him where he is suppose to be.

True Dat...

[Samhayne]

Carapace may chime in on this, but just wanted to let you know that we've uncovered a bug with Eli Holden. After your feedback, the team went looking to make sure he was working as intended. Apparently, he's not quite. Looks like the fix will be held up to go out when the new game client (currently in review with Apple) goes out.

[StompArtist]

Carapace may chime in on this, but just wanted to let you know that we've uncovered a bug with Eli Holden. After your feedback, the team went looking to make sure he was working as intended. Apparently, he's not quite. Looks like the fix will be held up to go out when the new game client (currently in review with Apple) goes out.

This is by far the funniest post in history of drop rate debates. LOL Thanks Sam.

[mafiainc42]

wow

[BodMaster]

carapace may chime in on this, but just wanted to let you know that we've uncovered a bug with eli holden. After your feedback, the team went looking to make sure he was working as intended. Apparently, he's not quite. Looks like the fix will be held up to go out when the new game client (currently in review with apple) goes out.

lmfao!!

[mafiainc42]

yes the rarest of rare lmfao

[Gluttony]

New achievement:
Left Holden the bag
Description: Completed the map Death from Above 100+ consecutive times in search of Eli Holden.

[Xaphan Fox]

Carapace may chime in on this, but just wanted to let you know that we've uncovered a bug with Eli Holden. After your feedback, the team went looking to make sure he was working as intended. Apparently, he's not quite. Looks like the fix will be held up to go out when the new game client (currently in review with Apple) goes out.

I am still positive this is a gated experience. Meaning he isn't wired to spawn yet. They prolly waiting till expansion rolls out to unlock him while people plow through the new achievements.

I refuse to believe this is just us being defeated by math.

What did I tell you haha.
Barkles

[mafiainc42]

so take the bish off the x list and give us that title that will help us become president.(worthless)

[Rauekat]

When i first saw the name of the thread i thought this guy was a movie star or something lol

[Lady_Pebbles]

RAAAAAGE!!! RAAAAAAWR!!!

Alrighty than what the hell are we gonna get for searching so long for this non-existing execution of doom?!

We wasted our time searching for him. I say make an exclusive Eli Holden vanity... I wanna hold his effen severed head in my hands with Samhayne's or Carapace's name stitched on his forehead & watch it bleed. >__>

Just sayin'....

That would be a great reward...

Plat would be better....

XD

[octavos]

New achievement:
Left Holden the bag
Description: Completed the map Death from Above 100+ consecutive times in search of Eli Holden.

lol, yup I knew there was a bug thats why I didn't try...just sayin.

[Xaphan Fox]

I want my 6 plat back for buying energy refill twice during half off event... LOLJK!

[~A~]

It should be renamed Holden you back and give a vanity mask that makes you look like him. Only applicable to those who worked long and hard... and still couldnt get him.

[Floating]

Ok... So the "bug" will be "fixed" in the "new update". In other words: We made the boss not spawn so that you hunt the achievement for a month and not get it and play til next campaign to get it. Seriously guys... This was very very funny....


We all want an energy refund and a plat refund for the tones of hours we spent on searching for Eli Holden

[StompArtist]

Everyone makes mistakes. I for one think it is funny.

STS could have never owned up to it and make him drop once in a million and we wouldn't be wiser for it. They are owning up to the mistake so it's all god. Also, sooo hilarious.

Actually, I think STS should rename him to Kaiser Sauze and leave him disabled.

[Dragonrider023]

@.o How did you know~!??!?!?!

my full name is Elisha, but ppl call me Eli

[Dragonrider023]

RAAAAAGE!!! RAAAAAAWR!!!

Alrighty than what the hell are we gonna get for searching so long for this non-existing execution of doom?!

We wasted our time searching for him. I say make an exclusive Eli Holden vanity... I wanna hold his effen severed head in my hands with Samhayne's or Carapace's name stitched on his forehead & watch it bleed. >__>

Just sayin'....

That would be a great reward...

Plat would be better....

XD



hahahahahaha!

[Flowman]

It should be renamed Holden you back and give a vanity mask that makes you look like him. Only applicable to those who worked long and hard... and still couldnt get him.


hahaha an achievement called "Holden you back" would be hillarious.

"Holden you back" - Oh you wanted to get all the achievements before the patch? LOLWHOOPS

[Floating]

hahaha an achievement called "Holden you back" would be hillarious.

"Holden you back" - Oh you wanted to get all the achievements before the patch? LOLWHOOPS

Hahahhahahah !!!!! This is awesome hahahahah

[Eli Holden]

Hey all! Raging yet? ;)

[Shaocalur]

Hey all! Raging yet? ;)
*Kills him* What do I win? 0_o

[Cahaun]

Hey all! Raging yet? ;)
*Kills him* What do I win? 0_o
We should get 500k gold O.o

[Xaphan Fox]

Hey all! Raging yet? ;)

Whoever this is:

I love you!

Bark bark!
*nuzzles*

[~A~]

It should be renamed Holden you back and give a vanity mask that makes you look like him. Only applicable to those who worked long and hard... and still couldnt get him.


hahaha an achievement called "Holden you back" would be hillarious.

"Holden you back" - Oh you wanted to get all the achievements before the patch? LOLWHOOPSand the only person that has it is samhayne... :|

[Floating]

Hey all! Raging yet? ;)

Wanna go out sometime? <3
Ill bring the cookies ^.^ You bring the achievement

[Xaphan Fox]

I'll go out with you. I'll bring the gamecube, Dane cook CD, and other... "stuff"

Bark bark

[rinzler]

Hey guys, please stick this topic if you're going to post.

Thanks!

-Rinzler

[Floating]

I'll go out with you. I'll bring the gamecube, Dane cook CD, and other... "stuff"

Bark bark

Only if the other stuff is included ^.^

Now lets stick to the topic

[Xaphan Fox]

This whole ordeal is reminiscent of that lvl35 helm in PL that never ever dropped.
People farmed and farmed.
Then 40 cap came, and they dropped.

Bark bark

[Floating]

This whole ordeal is reminiscent of that lvl35 helm in PL that never ever dropped.
People farmed and farmed.
Then 40 cap came, and they dropped.

Bark bark

I told you that! Ninja poster -.-

[Jugernugetx]

Ive been investigating since i am a superfinder at everything. I play jigsaws.
Eli Holden is nowhere to be found right? Simple, i will go find him and keep you guys updated! XD

[Floating]

EDITED FIRST POST SO THAT pEOPLE CAN SEE THAT ELI IS BUGGED :)

[Snakespeare]

There is a new client. Did anyone find him yet?

[octavos]

There is a new client. Did anyone find him yet?

its in new update....sam said. ill post link in a bit



I believe that Eli will be fixed when the new content update goes out.

[Floating]

:monkey:Im going to edit my first post with Sams posts. Thanks octavos for the link


Anyone needing information about eli can check first post

[Lady_Pebbles]

Flo, the quote below is wrong. Sam posted today in the new client thread that the Eli fix will come with the new content update -not- with the new client we just got.




Carapace may chime in on this, but just wanted to let you know that we've uncovered a bug with Eli Holden. After your feedback, the team went looking to make sure he was working as intended. Apparently, he's not quite. Looks like the fix will be held up to go out when the new game client (currently in review with Apple) goes out.[/QUOTE]

[Lady_Pebbles]

There is a new client. Did anyone find him yet?

its in new update....sam said. ill post link in a bit



I believe that Eli will be fixed when the new content update goes out.
Totally ninja'd lmao!

[KastyelTds]

I found Eli Holden @ 6:00 a.m. on the mission Death from above in gallows alley slums. I finally have the "Death Incarnate" Title.

[Floating]

:loyal: Eli is here check my new thread.

[thecrankybearsam]

Eli what?

[Floating]

Dont just post to increase ur posts and dont awake dead threads please -.- The problem with Eli has been resolved

[thecrankybearsam]

Lol I'm not intending on that, I'm asking what Eli Holden is

[thecrankybearsam]

I guess you still check it every once in a while, so it doesn't seem that dead.

[Floating]

It is a rare boss XD GO check yoru achievements