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Jiubara
08-28-2021, 04:43 AM
Hello fellow Arlorians,
i was wondering if anyone can confirm or deny (preferably a dev :3) something regarding the Ebon Aegis proc's dmg refl.
The way i always understood its lv nerf was
10%per lv, which made me think, at its current stage it should be 2000%/lv71 -50% due to 5lv to 76, that whould be 1950% dmg refl. at its current stage, which whould result in 1900% at lv 81.
Now a friend told me that ebon aegis will have 0%dmg red at lv 81 due to its nerf taking 50% of 2000% which makes it 1000% in its current endgame stage lv 76.
So to get to my question: which way does the ebon aegis proc nerf work?

> Example a) & b) for lv 76 <
a) 2000% - 50% = 1950%
or
b) 50% of 2000% = 1000%

> Example a) & b) for lv 81 <
a) 2000% - 100% = 1900%
or
b) 100% of 2000% = 0%

Please let me know in the commemts below which of the procs nerf is correct a) or b)
Thank you in advance :)

firebelt & crystalkiller
08-28-2021, 04:45 AM
It'll be 0% reflect at 81..pretty much only useful for the x2 hp.
That's my understanding.
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Alwaez
08-28-2021, 04:49 AM
It'll be 0% reflect at 81..pretty much only useful for the x2 hp.
That's my understanding.
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firebelt & crystalkiller
08-28-2021, 05:09 AM
Why?? For what need to do that?....

Отправлено с моего RMX2063 через TapatalkAlways has been like that...prolly to make the weapon less and less useful per expansion so people don't have to use 50 weapons by 2030 ig.

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Alwaez
08-28-2021, 05:30 AM
Always has been like that...prolly to make the weapon less and less useful per expansion so people don't have to use 50 weapons by 2030 ig.

Sent from my MAR-LX1A using TapatalkWhy not?.. Glint aeges and terror blade still actual, and dnt go down in price. But this stuffs 46 and 66 lvl. Ebon aeges 7lvl and with 81lvl upcoming, this stuff been useless? Cool.

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firebelt & crystalkiller
08-28-2021, 08:03 AM
Why not?.. Glint aeges and terror blade still actual, and dnt go down in price. But this stuffs 46 and 66 lvl. Ebon aeges 7lvl and with 81lvl upcoming, this stuff been useless? Cool.

Отправлено с моего RMX2063 через TapatalkGlint is not op...lvl 76 arcanes enables it to deal that dmg...so credit for arcs 76.
Also tb is just rare..and it's proc is just utiliy so pretty much unnecessary
Ebon is not useless lol.. at 81 it can still be used for x2 hp which is massive

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Alwaez
08-28-2021, 08:11 AM
Glint is not op...lvl 76 arcanes enables it to deal that dmg...so credit for arcs 76.
Also tb is just rare..and it's proc is just utiliy so pretty much unnecessary
Ebon is not useless lol.. at 81 it can still be used for x2 hp which is massive

Sent from my MAR-LX1A using TapatalkI dnt say glint is op. I said that still usefull stuff. And without 76 arc stuffs, glint much usefully than 71 ebon sword.

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firebelt & crystalkiller
08-28-2021, 08:12 AM
I dnt say glint is op. I said that still usefull stuff. And without 76 arc stuffs, glint much usefully than 71 ebon sword.

Отправлено с моего RMX2063 через TapatalkThought we were talking bout aegis.
Ofc sword is useless like staff/gun/bow ... Nothing to do about it.

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Alwaez
08-28-2021, 08:15 AM
Thought we were talking bout aegis.
Ofc sword is useless like staff/gun/bow ... Nothing to do about it.

Sent from my MAR-LX1A using TapatalkGun, stuff and bow can be helpful in some situation. Sword without 76 arc stuffs - rubbish. Now we talking about war stuffs. 46 lvl glint aeges much usefully than 71 lvl ebon swrd. But ebon aeges, need to fix, bcs that "old" stuff. Mmm....

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firebelt & crystalkiller
08-28-2021, 08:18 AM
Gun and bow can be helpful in some situation. Sword without 76 arc stuffs - rubbish. Now we talking about war stuffs. 46 lvl glint aeges much usefully than 71 lvl ebon swrd. But ebon aeges, need to fix, bcs that "old" stuff. Mmm....

Отправлено с моего RMX2063 через TapatalkDude it was there for like 2 years ..nobody did anything recently.
Tbf ebon aegis is broken to an extent. 2000% reflect is busted ..so it has to go down overtime or just straight up nerfed..better option is the first and they did it so..no complaints.

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Aviyhamelech
08-28-2021, 08:21 AM
I'm curious too, i wonder if it also happen to Ebon Staff :)

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Uereazagr
08-28-2021, 11:31 AM
Sword is useless?Did you ever try to use it in solo evg lb?

sanya
08-28-2021, 12:27 PM
Reflects shouldnt exist in this game, hopefully it will be really 0% reflect at 81 ;)

Kystone
08-28-2021, 02:51 PM
Catch me staying at 76 if 81 procs suck

Uereazagr
08-28-2021, 05:27 PM
Reflection still feels somewhere around 2000% for me btw, used to test it with reflection ultimate, so I guess its 1st variant

profmsb
08-28-2021, 08:17 PM
no worry..lvl 46 glint aegis n lvl 66 tb are still op(proc) than lvl 81 weap...i doubt they will nerf ebon aegis like that...or mybe 1 week of nerf like that n then they will say its a bug n revert back to normal...oppsss...i manage to catch the script xD

Skeleton Mike
08-28-2021, 08:43 PM
caucasian aegis

Alwaez
08-28-2021, 11:54 PM
Sword is useless?Did you ever try to use it in solo evg lb?Swrd isnt useless, only if use it with 76 arc gear. We now talk only about sollo weap, without anything.

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Xtremez
08-29-2021, 12:11 AM
So is this supposed nerf to the ebon aegis just fake news and rumors? Possibly speculation? Cause the way I see it, ebon aeg works perfectly fine at lvl 76 meta and lvl 81 cap is just +5 levels of that, so where's the problem? Do we just automatically double the dmg reduc nerf from -50% to -100% cause of 5 levels above?

xsilentninjax
08-29-2021, 12:35 AM
I got you one better.

What if lv81 arc wep synergizes with ebon?

(Laughs in chaos)

Ilove_Poopoo
08-29-2021, 12:46 AM
So is this supposed nerf to the ebon aegis just fake news and rumors? Possibly speculation? Cause the way I see it, ebon aeg works perfectly fine at lvl 76 meta and lvl 81 cap is just +5 levels of that, so where's the problem? Do we just automatically double the dmg reduc nerf from -50% to -100% cause of 5 levels above?Not speculation, it has been confirmed that ebon reflection decays by 10% its base reflection (which is 2000% for the aegis, 500% for the staff) for every level above lv71, and finally 0% against lv81 zones.

Take note that ebon's reflection is scaled on the level zone, not your level. So yes, lv81 tanks and mages using it on Festerfang content will still benefit the full 2000%/500% reflect, and 1000%/250% against Vardan Valley content, respectively.

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firebelt & crystalkiller
08-29-2021, 12:49 AM
U sure about the latter part of it being based on zone and not player level?..that's cool.

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Ilove_Poopoo
08-29-2021, 12:53 AM
U sure about the latter part of it being based on zone and not player level?..that's cool.

Sent from my MAR-LX1A using TapatalkOn point,

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Alwaez
08-29-2021, 01:04 AM
Not speculation, it has been confirmed that ebon reflection decays by 10% its base reflection (which is 2000% for the aegis, 500% for the staff) for every level above lv71, and finally 0% against lv81 zones.

Take note that ebon's reflection is scaled on the level zone, not your level. So yes, lv81 tanks and mages using it on Festerfang content will still benefit the full 2000%/500% reflect, and 1000%/250% against Vardan Valley content, respectively.

Sent from my SM-N975F using TapatalkIf that true, and proc changed from lvl zone, not player lvl, that isnt awful. Sadly that ebon aeges dnt been work in elite maus, but if in gl farm maps all been same, that okay.

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Jiubara
08-29-2021, 02:55 AM
Thx alot for all the replies, i myself targeted this thread towards my hc tank, whos only weapon is the ebon aegis, i was lucky enough to loot it from spirit crates, on the 1st day ive created my hc tank, but many others spend 1500 crate token to buy this weapon, which whould have been very upsetting for many if the weapon whould have been made completly useless.
So regarding the ss of futumsh, that whould mean lv 81zones/lv81 based events, the ebon aegis wont have any effect, but it stays its way up till valley.

Encryptions
08-29-2021, 03:01 AM
I would hope they choose to find a way to keep ebon aegis useful or even bring a new type of damage reflect / hp buff for warrior because as going into detail of a (tank) class that ebon aegis was one of the closes to tank type weapons there is that make legitimate sense to have for a warrior.

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Xtremez
08-29-2021, 04:56 AM
I would hope they choose to find a way to keep ebon aegis useful or even bring a new type of damage reflect / hp buff for warrior because as going into detail of a (tank) class that ebon aegis was one of the closes to tank type weapons there is that make legitimate sense to have for a warrior.

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Yeah gotta agree on that. Tanks not only have to have crowd control utility, support, and taunt, but also actual tankiness and the ebon aeg brings so much to the table in this regard. Without ebon aeg, I doubt anyone would be able to go 100+ waves in evg or temple events. Too bad if it is indeed going to happen that ebon aeg would be just useful for any awakes you have on it for new 81 maps and not it's strong proc.

Kystone
08-29-2021, 10:21 AM
Not speculation, it has been confirmed that ebon reflection decays by 10% its base reflection (which is 2000% for the aegis, 500% for the staff) for every level above lv71, and finally 0% against lv81 zones.

Take note that ebon's reflection is scaled on the level zone, not your level. So yes, lv81 tanks and mages using it on Festerfang content will still benefit the full 2000%/500% reflect, and 1000%/250% against Vardan Valley content, respectively.

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Isn’t m5-m6 and tk level 86 content, why is it not useless there?

Ilove_Poopoo
08-29-2021, 10:23 AM
Isn’t m5-m6 and tk level 86 content, why is it not useless there?Mob lv is 86 yes, since maus5-6/elite is always 10lvls above the highest level player in the zone.

But zone level is still lv76 - Futumsh. Although ebon reflection in maus/temple events act weirdly generally.

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Ilove_Poopoo
08-29-2021, 10:26 AM
Isn’t m5-m6 and tk level 86 content, why is it not useless there?Found it,

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sanya
08-29-2021, 11:57 AM
But zone level is still lv76 - Futumsh. Although ebon reflection in maus/temple events act weirdly generally.


what about temple events? there mobs low lvl at any wave...

Ilove_Poopoo
08-29-2021, 12:06 PM
what about temple events? there mobs low lvl at any wave...Ebon reflection is based on zone level, not yours nor the enemies.

Yes, swamp temple mobs were obviously not lv76 as seen from the level color indicator beside their health bars - i'm just pointing out that the reflection (from my experience) is reflecting way more than 500%, or atleast my extent of knowledge about these weapons (or prolly just a bug) - since sts loves to not fully explain these stuff in detail.

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Xtremez
08-29-2021, 06:56 PM
what about temple events? there mobs low lvl at any wave...

The temple event's zone is meant for endgame players even though technically the mobs are not scaled to cap, meaning that the zone is meant primarily for lvl 76 players so the reflect scales.