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Advocacies
09-16-2021, 05:12 AM
Can mage still do staff + ebon armor + abyss? I know abyss have longer cooldown than ebon is it still possible to proc the abyss armor right after the ebon? Or do i have to wait for ebon cd to be off cooldown to proc abyss armor then wait again for abyss cooldown to proc ebon? If that so then F

Kolpertis_333
09-16-2021, 05:15 AM
You need to wait till the proc is over so New proc can activate

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Encryptions
09-16-2021, 05:15 AM
Wait for the vest cool down before you can proc vest again.

caabarader
09-16-2021, 05:17 AM
U can't proc them togheter, but can proc abyssal after ebon proc end or proc ebon after abyssal proc end...atleast armor will not be a problem..just weapons

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dmqp
09-16-2021, 05:17 AM
Imagine players with ms set with ms in ebon armor... It procs while you don't want it (while moving from point A to point B), then when you reach point B and want to kill enemy with stat set (with chasmal) you have to wait for cd to end to proc chasmal. Wonderful.

caabarader
09-16-2021, 05:19 AM
Imagine players with ms in ebon armor... It procs while you don't want it (while moving from point A to point B), then you have to wait for cd to end to proc chasmal. Wonderful.Thats not a big problem tho...the difference between the armors are minimal, and for me ebon are betters because of it haste%

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Advocacies
09-16-2021, 05:21 AM
welp i guess it's about time to stop playing and just spend all few 1-2 hours chatting with guildies

Advocacies
09-16-2021, 05:26 AM
Does this affect weapons too? Like if i proc skratch staff so i can't proc my skratch gun? Since i have to wait for cooldown of skratchstaff before proc gun?

Encryptions
09-16-2021, 05:30 AM
Does this affect weapons too? Like if i proc skratch staff so i can't proc my skratch gun? Since i have to wait for cooldown of skratchstaff before proc gun?
Yes, it is bad.

Advocacies
09-16-2021, 05:38 AM
Yes, it is bad.

Omg this is really bad damn how are we going to deal damage single target if were going to use gun it's a big nerf in dmg but more focus single target but we use staff more advantage in damage and less single target damage so basically we have to get a decently build rog to deal a significantly amount of damage to a boss damn i wonder how much duggar dagger would rise up after this

Advocacies
09-16-2021, 05:50 AM
Mages with 1.3k int pure BD awakes :

237226

Terracraft
09-16-2021, 06:02 AM
Imagine players with ms set with ms in ebon armor... It procs while you don't want it (while moving from point A to point B), then when you reach point B and want to kill enemy with stat set (with chasmal) you have to wait for cd to end to proc chasmal. Wonderful.

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Willl
09-16-2021, 07:37 AM
Armors are just fine. Cause when 1 proc ended u can still swap and get new proc on the other armors.

For the weapons depends... For example you cant proc anymore skratch staff + ebon staff together or skratch staff+ skratch gun.

But you can still pull with spirit staff and then use skratch staff that after pulled will easily proc

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Oakmaiden
09-16-2021, 07:45 AM
Lol lol lol lol lol

Advocacies
09-16-2021, 10:06 AM
Rip skratch staff + Gun no more bd meta i wonder how would ppl with 1.5 primary would pass wave 50+ without procs and nerf warrior stacking proc

Rikki-
09-16-2021, 09:02 PM
Mages with 1.3k int pure BD awakes :

237226145 bd Rip with 1.4 int...... Cry[emoji24]

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Advocacies
09-17-2021, 04:19 AM
Rip less dmg output now since gun can't proc no armor reduction and DoT to boss back to Int% meta

Analytical
09-17-2021, 04:39 AM
U can proc staff first then switch to Bd gun to max the dmg output. Or the other way round.

(Basically the final weapon should be the one with the rest of your BD set, hence maximising final dmg output)

Gigannte
09-17-2021, 05:06 AM
I lost all desire to play! I don't know how the game's adm just think and bring things that make us feel bad! years playing that way and they remove! does not make sense! rip

Advocacies
09-17-2021, 10:24 AM
U can proc staff first then switch to Bd gun to max the dmg output. Or the other way round.

(Basically the final weapon should be the one with the rest of your BD set, hence maximising final dmg output)

But way less dmg output than before :> normal ppl with normal bd awakes won't work the same as before unless they have mix int% bd which gives base raw dmg other than that bd% + int% in one item is pretty much expensive so no guarantee every players will own that , Jewels as well if you're going bd you'll need at least noble jewels to comprises for the int lose couz of bd and that's expensive so in conclusion BD meta nerf still

Analytical
09-17-2021, 02:14 PM
But way less dmg output than before :> normal ppl with normal bd awakes won't work the same as before unless they have mix int% bd which gives base raw dmg other than that bd% + int% in one item is pretty much expensive so no guarantee every players will own that , Jewels as well if you're going bd you'll need at least noble jewels to comprises for the int lose couz of bd and that's expensive so in conclusion BD meta nerf still

Yes I agree, of course if both gun proc + staff proc stacks up the dmg would definitely be higher than the suggestion I proposed.

The suggestion here was the best solution I could think of in terms of maximising dmg output given the current situation/update. (maybe someone else could come out with something). That said, I'm not sure if Int is important here because when staff procs, you boost your base damage and when you switch to bd set, say 100% +BD (= 2 X current damage) it's acting on that temporary base damage which I think gives a fairly high final damage output.

Feel free to correct me if I'm wrong :D