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umarrahim
09-20-2021, 11:12 AM
Hi,

It's well known that EVG is nerfed and now drops much less gold.

It's also well known that warriors are useless in all of the new maps, even against rahab since warriors get oneshotted by it too.

EVG was the only map I thought warriors would be needed, but the map is nerfed and warriors now have nowhere to go.

As a mage player, I am starting to feel bad for these poor guys. Before the stack proc changes, there was 1 warrior in an EVG pt, and 3 members of other classes so other classes were also important to play EVG.

Now that DM gives more gold than EVG, and warriors aren't needed in any other map, what are they supposed to do?

Please make EVG better than DM either by nerfing DM or buffing EVG. Also, It would be good if boss fighting starts at wave 1 in EVG instead of wave 10.

I am just feeling so sad for warriors, not only did they lose weapon proc stacking, but they also lost the ONLY map they were needed in.



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Pyroflame
09-20-2021, 12:01 PM
And you know what, today i encountered a shocking situation as well as some of my friends reported. PEOPLE LEAVE MAP IF A WAR IN IT. Me and my friend felt so annoying and at the same time, be it as it may because there is nothing we could do. This is a disgrace and not good for gaming experience.

War w/o proc cannot have enough damage, while Rog and mage has decent armor to survive hit and run then with good dps, they no longer need war to tank.

THAT'S THE PROBLEM.

Edit: Gladly, i have friends, true and real friends from dif classes help me and play with me. I can't imagine a war player new to this game, have limited friends and experience this kind of 2014-2016 situation.

Trolzerkeinstein
09-20-2021, 01:01 PM
It's kinda useless complaining since STS already made up their mind. They even closed the main thread for feedbacks for their "balanced update".

Switching to rogue or mage is the best option atm for warriors. I feel bad for the warriors who invested into equipment with their gold / real money and got screwed over without any warning by STS.
Also, soon they will be nerfing DM as well that you will be forced to play the new maps instead, making DM and EVG dead.

The new 81 items will be locked behind chest locks that will cost a lot of platinum to open and if you find one in the market it will cost millions. And will cost more to fully awaken it and more to find good awaken stats. Sounds fun, right?

Mythocrisis
09-20-2021, 01:15 PM
It's kinda useless complaining since STS already made up their mind. They even closed the main thread for feedbacks for their "balanced update".

Switching to rogue or mage is the best option atm for warriors. I feel bad for the warriors who invested into equipment with their gold / real money and got screwed over without any warning by STS.
Also, soon they will be nerfing DM as well that you will be forced to play the new maps instead, making DM and EVG dead.

The new 81 items will be locked behind chest locks that will cost a lot of platinum to open and if you find one in the market it will cost millions. And will cost more to fully awaken it and more to find good awaken stats. Sounds fun, right?

Your right.
All we asked for is make changes slow and gradual.
They only opt for the extreme. Either let it run for 2 years and let people awake and get accustom to it.. Next they go for, remove it!
No thought for repurcussion how it affects the players who worked hard.

They ban the players who do illegal stuff... Yet not even an ounce of consideration for people who love this game and play a certain class and who got screwed by the system.

Cmon sts, the expansion is lit but not this.

Trolzerkeinstein
09-20-2021, 01:27 PM
Don't even get me started with the hidden updates/nerfs they don't put into their patch notes.

But hey... Wait until a forum moderator bans the people who are genuinely unsatisfied with the changes by voicing out their feelings here and delete their comments as well so that the only comments that are left are the sugar-coated ones. Hell, they'll probably lock/delete this thread as well if it gets filled without a lot of negative feedbacks.

So much for inviting criticism, opinions, or comments, am I right, bois?

Switchback
09-20-2021, 01:43 PM
Don't even get me started with the hidden updates/nerfs they don't put into their patch notes.

But hey... Wait until a forum moderator bans the people who are genuinely unsatisfied with the changes by voicing out their feelings here and delete their comments as well so that the only comments that are left are the sugar-coated ones. Hell, they'll probably lock/delete this thread as well if it gets filled without a lot of negative feedbacks.

So much for inviting criticism, opinions, or comments, am I right, bois?

Go outside for a while. You'll be ok. And so will warriors, do we have new mythic, spirit, or arcanes yet? Many things they will do with that.

Trolzerkeinstein
09-20-2021, 02:07 PM
Go outside for a while. You'll be ok. And so will warriors, do we have new mythic, spirit, or arcanes yet? Many things they will do with that.

I appreciate your concern but you don't have to tell me what to do. I can take care of myself, buddy. :*

No new mythic, spirit, or arcanes items yet, but I can't wait to start opening a lot of locks that have a very small chance to get the item I want to get them. I am sure it will take a lot of money to get them and probably more to fully awaken it with good stats, but hey it's sure is "worth it". I just "hope" they don't nerf it tho' by the time I get all those equipment like what they just did for this expansion.

umarrahim
09-20-2021, 02:13 PM
Go outside for a while. You'll be ok. And so will warriors, do we have new mythic, spirit, or arcanes yet? Many things they will do with that.Even if we do have those, and warriors are good again.....there's literally no point lol.

If warr get good lvl 81 proc, so will Rogs and mages.... so they will essentially still be doing 4 dps parties...

We need EVG to be the best to make warriors somewhat useful.

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Xtremez
09-20-2021, 07:34 PM
Even if we do have those, and warriors are good again.....there's literally no point lol.

If warr get good lvl 81 proc, so will Rogs and mages.... so they will essentially still be doing 4 dps parties...

We need EVG to be the best to make warriors somewhat useful.

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Or they could actually create a new dungeon or map that wars are actually useful wherein farming is viable

snakeeyes
09-20-2021, 07:53 PM
And you know what, today i encountered a shocking situation as well as some of my friends reported. PEOPLE LEAVE MAP IF A WAR IN IT. Me and my friend felt so annoying and at the same time, be it as it may because there is nothing we could do. This is a disgrace and not good for gaming experience.

War w/o proc cannot have enough damage, while Rog and mage has decent armor to survive hit and run then with good dps, they no longer need war to tank.

THAT'S THE PROBLEM.

Edit: Gladly, i have friends, true and real friends from dif classes help me and play with me. I can't imagine a war player new to this game, have limited friends and experience this kind of 2014-2016 situation.

It is not true i run even if 3 warior enter dm and im not the only rogue doing that there are so many rogue and mage, and it is good to have running warior because its so easy to kill mobs just like 3mage and 1 rogue about the boss same for 1 rogue and 3warior its same easy to kill the boss.

Repent
09-20-2021, 09:44 PM
It is not true i run even if 3 warior enter dm and im not the only rogue doing that there are so many rogue and mage, and it is good to have running warior because its so easy to kill mobs just like 3mage and 1 rogue about the boss same for 1 rogue and 3warior its same easy to kill the boss.

The only reason I'm replying to this thread is because of how annoying I find every one of your comments on these forums. You constantly bash and argue with everyone and will not listen to any sort of reason it almost seems as though you haven't actually logged into arcane legends and played in years. You need to get off of these forums and stop being a keyboard warrior for once or maybe you should "broaden your mind" as you said in another post about why you like quaset since he has a very "open mind". You are very hypocritical and honestly, you and a few others are the reasons for "forum toxicity" due to your constant disagreements and nonsense posts. Please just stop bashing people for expressing their opinion and if you do have something to say make it helpful or at the very least Relevant, I know I can't keep you from posting on the forums but hopefully you will read at least some of this and come to the conclusion to Broaden your mind.

snakeeyes
09-20-2021, 10:26 PM
The only reason I'm replying to this thread is because of how annoying I find every one of your comments on these forums. You constantly bash and argue with everyone and will not listen to any sort of reason it almost seems as though you haven't actually logged into arcane legends and played in years. You need to get off of these forums and stop being a keyboard warrior for once or maybe you should "broaden your mind" as you said in another post about why you like quaset since he has a very "open mind". You are very hypocritical and honestly, you and a few others are the reasons for "forum toxicity" due to your constant disagreements and nonsense posts. Please just stop bashing people for expressing their opinion and if you do have something to say make it helpful or at the very least Relevant, I know I can't keep you from posting on the forums but hopefully you will read at least some of this and come to the conclusion to Broaden your mind.

Ohh sory your a clean and good player because youre one of the warior want to blame sts for what they did, and you want to quit all, lol and you dont want to nerf the glint aegis because for you its not broken sory huh you are realy not a basher. Lol

Xerofith
09-20-2021, 10:32 PM
The only reason I'm replying to this thread is because of how annoying I find every one of your comments on these forums. You constantly bash and argue with everyone and will not listen to any sort of reason it almost seems as though you haven't actually logged into arcane legends and played in years. You need to get off of these forums and stop being a keyboard warrior for once or maybe you should "broaden your mind" as you said in another post about why you like quaset since he has a very "open mind". You are very hypocritical and honestly, you and a few others are the reasons for "forum toxicity" due to your constant disagreements and nonsense posts. Please just stop bashing people for expressing their opinion and if you do have something to say make it helpful or at the very least Relevant, I know I can't keep you from posting on the forums but hopefully you will read at least some of this and come to the conclusion to Broaden your mind.

Only person here being a keyboard warrior is you it's okay to have a difference in opinion. There's nothing toxic about disagreeing with others and I find it hilarious and ironic that you're asking him tobroaden his mind

Repent
09-20-2021, 10:50 PM
Only person here being a keyboard warrior is you it's okay to have a difference in opinion. There's nothing toxic about disagreeing with others and I find it hilarious and ironic that you're asking him tobroaden his mind

Thanks for showing people who the "few others" refer to when I discussed toxic players on the forums. Cheers to you mate!

Repent
09-20-2021, 10:54 PM
Ohh sory your a clean and good player because youre one of the warior want to blame sts for what they did, and you want to quit all, lol and you dont want to nerf the glint aegis because for you its not broken sory huh you are realy not a basher. Lol

I don't own a glint, I am a warrior and a top achiever in the game. I'm genuinely confused by what you are attempting to say. I'm a clean and good player because I blamed sts for what they did? I don't care about nerfing the glint got rid of it a while ago. Bashing? I'm expressing my opinions on how childish you are acting on the forums.

snakeeyes
09-20-2021, 11:10 PM
I don't own a glint, I am a warrior and a top achiever in the game. I'm genuinely confused by what you are attempting to say. I'm a clean and good player because I blamed sts for what they did? I don't care about nerfing the glint got rid of it a while ago. Bashing? I'm expressing my opinions on how childish you are acting on the forums.

And it is wrong to say i run with 3 warior lol and telling the truth? Take a look to your all reply if theres no counter attack there? Come on your 100% perfect and no toxicity to all of your reply. Hehe peace

snakeeyes
09-20-2021, 11:23 PM
I don't own a glint, I am a warrior and a top achiever in the game. I'm genuinely confused by what you are attempting to say. I'm a clean and good player because I blamed sts for what they did? I don't care about nerfing the glint got rid of it a while ago. Bashing? I'm expressing my opinions on how childish you are acting on the forums.

Yes you want to quit all the player because of what sts did right? Thats not toxicity? About youre a clean and 100% perfect player is a joke because you always complaining about what sts did.

Repent
09-20-2021, 11:32 PM
Yes you want to quit all the player because of what sts did right? Thats not toxicity? About youre a clean and 100% perfect player is a joke because you always complaining about what sts did.

what is this clean and 100% perfect player thing you keep talking about? I am considering quitting but am wanting to wait to see what sts will do in the following few weeks. How is voicing my opinion on a topic that many players are in disagreement on including you toxic? Being toxic is not disagreeing being toxic is exemplifying rowdy and bad behavior on the forums in an attempt to stay relevant.

snakeeyes
09-20-2021, 11:34 PM
I don't own a glint, I am a warrior and a top achiever in the game. I'm genuinely confused by what you are attempting to say. I'm a clean and good player because I blamed sts for what they did? I don't care about nerfing the glint got rid of it a while ago. Bashing? I'm expressing my opinions on how childish you are acting on the forums.

Expressing the feelings is ok but do you think that encouraging others to quit the game is good? No its not. You always want to stop posting thread that attacking what you like.

snakeeyes
09-20-2021, 11:45 PM
what is this clean and 100% perfect player thing you keep talking about? I am considering quitting but am wanting to wait to see what sts will do in the following few weeks. How is voicing my opinion on a topic that many players including you toxic? Being toxic is not disagreeing being toxic is exemplifying rowdy and bad behavior on the forums in an attempt to stay relevant.

Do you think all of your reply is not toxic? Wow hope all of people just like you if yes. Lol, you want all of reply is in accordance with your opinion and if not you will say stupid tt.

Mythocrisis
09-21-2021, 12:16 AM
Expressing the feelings is ok but do you think that encouraging others to quit the game is good? No its not. You always want to stop posting thread that attacking what you like.

He says all this to show that there's a hit very hard on warriors and this has to be rectified.
This is a decision made solely by sts..(not nerfing but removing the whole system).
And the funny thing is only warriors are affected.

If you are another class , you have absolutely no problem and you don't know what you're spouting here trying to disregard people asking sts to do something about the pathetic situation of the warrior and people who spent time money and effort into that class ( I mean main, not creating a fun 76 war account)

So all these posts are asking sts to compensate or change or bring about a new system (like proc stacking even) to even out losses of one of the 3 classes... Since if there is a loss, it's supposes to be in general not to one class.. And so very hard

This is new in AL. Classism I say!

Repent
09-21-2021, 12:18 AM
Do you think all of your reply is not toxic? Wow hope all of people just like you if yes. Lol, you want all of reply is in accordance with your opinion and if not you will say stupid tt.

Where have I said stupid tt? According to your logic, everything you are currently saying is stupid tt. I see that it is pointless to continue any sort of reasonable conversation with you. Have a good day mate hope your conversation skills are better in real life.

xsilentninjax
09-21-2021, 12:19 AM
forget the proc stacking, and dependency of wars reduced to null. There has been a lot of valid criticism falling on deaf ears so I'll just assume they're practicing ignorant skills

lets talk about the long-awaited "war exclusive vanity", where is it?
It's way beyond overdue.

Goodness gracious ya'll gave us warriors one more reason to leave the game
All I need to do now is sit back and play another game and wait for your 81 arc gears to come out (assuming that balances your fallouts)
cheers

snakeeyes
09-21-2021, 12:24 AM
Where have I said stupid tt? According to your logic, everything you are currently saying is stupid tt. I see that it is pointless to continue any sort of reasonable conversation with you. Have a good day mate hope your conversation skills are better in real life.

Yeah thats right i must say that to you because you didnt read all of your reply just as i read, just like you said glint aegis is useless then after you said glint aegis is not useless lol. i must follow what encrypt said just ignore all the tt haters like you. Lol

Mythocrisis
09-21-2021, 12:59 AM
forget the proc stacking, and dependency of wars reduced to null. There has been a lot of valid criticism falling on deaf ears so I'll just assume they're practicing ignorant skills

lets talk about the long-awaited "war exclusive vanity", where is it?
It's way beyond overdue.

Goodness gracious ya'll gave us warriors one more reason to leave the game
All I need to do now is sit back and play another game and wait for your 81 arc gears to come out (assuming that balances your fallouts)
cheers

I don't think it's falling on deaf ears, there had been a closed post on revamping dozer aegis process rate like that of the axe counterpart.

So they know that warriors have taken a hard hit and might do something.. All we are trying to do is to preserve a good but unintended feature. Proc.stacking.
It's a money maker for them too if they invest on gear for all classes to be able to pull out combos.

And there's no point of a class only vanity when that class is just a joke.. Or if they change name to vanity legends. I'd buy it.

Levistonyy
09-21-2021, 06:30 AM
I think best solution would be increase the gold drop rate for evg that way warrior could still farm and earn some gold as of now the gold drop being nerf so badly that warrior don’t even bother to farm I’m afraid by the time sts implement the so call balance there won’t be much good warrior be left in game

umarrahim
09-21-2021, 06:39 AM
I don't think it's falling on deaf ears, there had been a closed post on revamping dozer aegis process rate like that of the axe counterpart.

So they know that warriors have taken a hard hit and might do something.. All we are trying to do is to preserve a good but unintended feature. Proc.stacking.
It's a money maker for them too if they invest on gear for all classes to be able to pull out combos.

And there's no point of a class only vanity when that class is just a joke.. Or if they change name to vanity legends. I'd buy it.Most people are not getting the point here... no matter the state of warrior, if EVG is bad then warriors won't be needed anymore unless they can out dps a rogue.



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Marosok
09-21-2021, 07:13 AM
I think best solution would be increase the gold drop rate for evg that way warrior could still farm and earn some gold as of now the gold drop being nerf so badly that warrior don’t even bother to farm I’m afraid by the time sts implement the so call balance there won’t be much good warrior be left in game

Explore new maps... not talking about portals.

gobbels
09-21-2021, 07:33 AM
when good nightmares turn into bad nightmares.

swoutttt
09-21-2021, 09:36 AM
Warriors will survive, atm they just have a downfall after being top class last 2-3 years. It's not fun but things will improve.