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gazelleeee
09-29-2021, 05:55 AM
I never seen 1m+ pointhttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210929/be8c7aeca568018f1dcc962dea54188d.jpg

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riot.cabaye45
09-29-2021, 05:57 AM
Yes actually its things to ask the dev do some wrong updates with OP Mobs and Boss but dont give powerful equip then some reason player getting quit

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Cyganbezraczek
09-29-2021, 06:02 AM
And that the point of deleting stacking in your opinion? Do u event know how good eq he had and how lucky he was? It was never 1m+ but quite offten close to 1m, and only this, 1 per 1038129387 runs was so lucky to score 3m

Encryptions
09-29-2021, 06:08 AM
Well everyone else had op proc combos, gear, and all; why weren't they able to solo 1m+ points? Answer... game took skill to play. Proc combos were what little we had as to us developing a way to align a proc setup in a strategic way. People with stats waayy higher than me weren't able to pass me on solo swamp temple lb for rogue. 0 offense to them; they had the gears but not the skills.

pfizer
09-29-2021, 06:52 AM
Well everyone else had op proc combos, gear, and all; why weren't they able to solo 1m+ points? Answer... game took skill to play. Proc combos were what little we had as to us developing a way to align a proc setup in a strategic way. People with stats waayy higher than me weren't able to pass me on solo swamp temple lb for rogue. 0 offense to them; they had the gears but not the skills.

I dont think rog or mage can surpass or even with that 3m score of warrior. Warrior simply dominates in proc stacking in all pve which is one of the reason proc stacking is addressed.

Encryptions
09-29-2021, 06:55 AM
I dont think rog or mage can surpass or even with that 3m score of warrior. Warrior simply dominates in proc stacking in all pve which is one of the reason proc stacking is addressed.

I want you to try and play warrior in a lv 81 map. Sts should of nerfed weapons a bit; not remove proc combos entirely.

firebelt & crystalkiller
09-29-2021, 07:16 AM
I dont think rog or mage can surpass or even with that 3m score of warrior. Warrior simply dominates in proc stacking in all pve which is one of the reason proc stacking is addressed.How does proc stacking SOLELY enable warrior to get 3m score..if u can say a satisfying answer I'll give u 50m.


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Mythocrisis
09-29-2021, 07:22 AM
There's no point, they did it and won't revert.

They trying to make bank from the new arcanes and realised the proc stacking interfered with it in a bad way so that's that.

They didn't want to work on trying to synergise proc for gameplay on new arcanes because it's ....complicated and easier way to do stuff is just to add one proc (a funky looking op one) and when all gears atm are suddenly nerfed... There will be new God tier weapons so op it beats all out of the water.

And the plat whales will start the transactions to try loot em.

And I know I'm right since they chose not to hear whatever anyone voiced... They ignored which gives a clear answer.

Moving to a new (or old ) AL.

Formature
09-29-2021, 07:28 AM
I never seen 1m+ pointhttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210929/be8c7aeca568018f1dcc962dea54188d.jpg

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according to your logic then i can claim my rights and tell sts to do something about the timed runs since they only have rogues in the vast majority.

Flamesofanger
09-29-2021, 08:04 AM
oh my god....you guys are still going on about this....

Truly pathetic.

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pfizer
09-29-2021, 08:06 AM
How does proc stacking SOLELY enable warrior to get 3m score..if u can say a satisfying answer I'll give u 50m.


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can mage or rog solo get 3m score with proc stacking? wheres my 50m?

firebelt & crystalkiller
09-29-2021, 08:08 AM
can mage or rog solo get 3m score with proc stacking? wheres my 50m?Can war do 3m without ult?

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pfizer
09-29-2021, 08:10 AM
Can war do 3m without ult?

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can you do 3m without proc stacking?

pfizer
09-29-2021, 08:17 AM
wheres my 50m? pffff

firebelt & crystalkiller
09-29-2021, 08:45 AM
wheres my 50m? pffffThere was a condition nincompoop.

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Crocodile
09-29-2021, 08:52 AM
Why not all war get 3m pts?

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pfizer
09-29-2021, 09:31 AM
There was a condition nincompoop.

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You cant even answer my simple question -.-. wheres my 50m?

Irg
09-29-2021, 09:36 AM
We are begging to spend 3x the money to buy multiple weapons
theres 0 other reason why we want it back its just fun and creative

I cant say that this fits everyone, but from what iv seen, 71-76cap
with dm and evg has the most people actively farming instead of
standing in town, and the game has more online than ever before

Perogol
09-29-2021, 12:59 PM
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1.5m last season :v

Nocturnus
09-29-2021, 02:46 PM
Nothing is further from reality, a lb does not mean anything in the future we can see more of this for new items or new styles of play, and not because it will be broken. The fact of the nerf because, 1 full war had more damage and capacity and resistance to kill mobs and bosses than a rogue and a mage.
So you had 2 paths:
1- Make all the classes with defense and damage capable of clearing a map alone.
2- Or class work, each class with a roll, war defense, rogue damage, mage in the middle.
the devs chose the second option, which goes more with the old style of the game.

The first option was more complex and you run the risk of everything getting out of control, regarding the gold inflation and the new maps and their difficulty and new procs, much more toxic and less friendly.

Pd: on the other hand, nowhere is there an official post from the devs, saying that this proc system should even exist, it was just something that someone discovered at random, as bugs are usually discovered, and that the devs let that keep getting out of control. I would have approached it differently but it would have surely involved fixing hundreds of weapons, it was easier for them to discard the entire system and try something else as they have done.
The way things were, a war with old weapons could not compete with another war or with other classes. Obviously, the people who take advantage of this situation will continue against it, but you have to let it go.

Pd2: some weapons can still be stacked with each other, they only eliminated those that use extreme buff to give you god stat, they cannot be stacked with each other. We will probably see a healthier proc stack in the future.

Hariz0010
09-29-2021, 04:05 PM
not really if they only eliminated those which give u god stat thats not explain why tb and spirit weap cant be stacked , they should make the rogue immortal dagger cant stack instead of tb and spirit i see some rogue still can stack that weapon with duggar dagger

Xtremez
09-29-2021, 06:22 PM
First of all, the dude has (well in today's context - used to have) like the best war gear in the game, with op str and op ed mixed and some bd as well. With 2k str and some ed/bd you'd be hoping to reach 1m. More than that, its just an isolated case of a player with extremely maxed out gear and solid technic which no body else could get (either the former or the latter or sometimes both), thus, no one ever scored that high in solo lb in the game's history ever since the inception of evg. Yes proc stacking enabled wars to dominate solo evg, but be reminded that in all other lb's in the game, rogues had the upper hand, with only mages for dungeon type lb's which need fast mob clearing and rogues for bosses. This isn't the reason why proc stacking was removed though, it was because sts may be planning something for the new best set of gear which would either not play nice with old gear or make the procs broken and too op if proc stacking still remained - or at least that's what I would like to think.

Potofgreed
09-29-2021, 07:27 PM
the reason they removed it was because they couldnt innovate in that area anymore. i mean they could have still 100% but items would just be way to strong. so the question arises when does it stop.

they nerfed " proc stacking " so they can innovate again while trying to maintain a certain "balance"

sometimes you have to take a step back to take a few steps forward.

peope have to understand that correcting problems in this game opens up new paths for content in the core game.

people have to be more understanding and not cancel things they cant make sense of.


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Analytical
09-29-2021, 09:19 PM
the reason they removed it was because they couldnt innovate in that area anymore. i mean they could have still 100% but items would just be way to strong. so the question arises when does it stop.

they nerfed " proc stacking " so they can innovate again while trying to maintain a certain "balance"

sometimes you have to take a step back to take a few steps forward.

peope have to understand that correcting problems in this game opens up new paths for content in the core game.

people have to be more understanding and not cancel things they cant make sense of.


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Couldn't agree more !

If only people can try to understand FIRST before reacting like a kid that needs to drink mummy's milk lol.

Terracraft
09-29-2021, 09:45 PM
No point of arguing,they will not bring back proc stack as before,
Just waiting for them to improve and fix with new map to be more enjoyable n playable.

nupakachik
09-29-2021, 10:06 PM
To be honest, they can neft procs stacking to save economy in-game.
Just only add small script code would make everyone happy and then a lot of gear price would be back to normal a bit.
We have armor cap at lvl 76 around 8k armor. So it can be add to deal damage cap .
I would mean why dont we deal damage max as 200k - 250k damage for new map. It doesn't matter how many weapon u switch.
However, they chose another solution by removing procs stack instead nefting.
That is their choice

Analytical
09-29-2021, 10:24 PM
To be honest, they can neft procs stacking to save economy in-game.
Just only add small script code would make everyone happy and then a lot of gear price would be back to normal a bit.
We have armor cap at lvl 76 around 8k armor. So it can be add to deal damage cap .
I would mean why dont we deal damage max as 200k - 250k damage for new map. It doesn't matter how many weapon u switch.
However, they chose another solution by removing procs stack instead nefting.
That is their choice

Pretty useful idea tho it may need further refinement. Please put it in suggestion section hopefully dev sees this.

The cap can be applied to weapons below 76 and a different cap should be given to critical hits.

pfizer
09-29-2021, 10:25 PM
but where is my 50m??

firebelt & crystalkiller
09-29-2021, 11:38 PM
but where is my 50m??Sent to ur mom's account. Go check

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Irg
09-29-2021, 11:48 PM
Proc stacking adds to the gameplay and further diverse players
from skilled and non-skilled.
If you want a completely fair game go play rock paper scissors or something
and see how long that will last u

umarrahim
09-30-2021, 12:20 AM
the reason they removed it was because they couldnt innovate in that area anymore. i mean they could have still 100% but items would just be way to strong. so the question arises when does it stop.

they nerfed " proc stacking " so they can innovate again while trying to maintain a certain "balance"

sometimes you have to take a step back to take a few steps forward.

peope have to understand that correcting problems in this game opens up new paths for content in the core game.

people have to be more understanding and not cancel things they cant make sense of.


Sent from my Redmi 5 Plus using TapatalkIt's too early for these changes, if they made these changes after lvl 81 arcs were out, and ppl are able to nicely clear with them, I am sure there will be less than 90% of complaints than there are now.

People are frustrated playing this new maps which take like 10-15min per map, and the new portal bosses take like 10-15min with a randon pt. A team of the most op Rogs i know took 3 min to do ekenta....

Not that people are against removal of proc stacking, people are just annoyed how long it takes to complete these maps for their mediocre rewards.

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Nocturnus
09-30-2021, 12:23 AM
not really if they only eliminated those which give u god stat thats not explain why tb and spirit weap cant be stacked , they should make the rogue immortal dagger cant stack instead of tb and spirit i see some rogue still can stack that weapon with duggar dagger

I can only tell you that some procs can still stack, but none that give you a stat buff, on each other. I do not know all the proc, nor the reasons why each specific proc was affected, but if you believe that there is a weapon out of control, it is not me that you should comment on. There is a place where bugs are reported, there a dev can examine if it is correct. This community tends to cover up bugs, I suppose that sometimes I have done it too, but it is not correct or healthy for the game and its economy.

pfizer
09-30-2021, 12:36 AM
Sent to ur mom's account. Go check

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reported................

pfizer
09-30-2021, 03:31 AM
How does proc stacking SOLELY enable warrior to get 3m score..if u can say a satisfying answer I'll give u 50m.


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bump.............

Dracaxx
09-30-2021, 03:47 AM
Closing.I already had an official thread regarding this matter.

Boneslap
10-03-2021, 02:08 PM
How does proc stacking SOLELY enable warrior to get 3m score..if u can say a satisfying answer I'll give u 50m.


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That's simple do u know that also got to do with damage stacking if u take a war with let's say 2.2k str that's about 5.8k pure dmg u add the damage elixirs than it's 9.5k dmg adding fish elixer oil makes damage 13k now if u use elixirs the entire time and u have skills and time than 3m points won't be a problem also dmg elixirs have a massive impact on proc stacking making dmg to around 700k with ultimate ofc there's your awnser

Encryptions
10-03-2021, 02:13 PM
That's simple do u know that also got to do with damage stacking if u take a war with let's say 2.2k str that's about 5.8k pure dmg u add the damage elixirs than it's 9.5k dmg adding fish elixer oil makes damage 13k now if u use elixirs the entire time and u have skills and time than 3m points won't be a problem also dmg elixirs have a massive impact on proc stacking making dmg to around 700k with ultimate ofc there's your awnser

He means that if proc stacking is the only reason as to wars getting 3m points then why doesn't every proc stacking warrior have 3m points including the ones who use very op stats. Proc stacking didn't just take op gears; it also required op skill and being good at the game too. You can have all of the damage you want but if you can't play properly / good then you aren't getting anywhere.
He is referring to the people who say "Proc stacking is just spamming hot bars and spamming skills." when it isn't.

swoutttt
10-03-2021, 03:07 PM
Proc stacking is history. Get over it.