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Uereazagr
10-29-2021, 02:36 AM
I definitely see some progress, and this is a pretty good weapon, but why, why would you choose this over duggar daggers?Not even talking about marianos bow

Avta
10-29-2021, 02:45 AM
You would pick this so ur team does more dmg to the enemies...

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Uereazagr
10-29-2021, 02:49 AM
I guess we’ll need to fight raha to see if it’s any beneficial using dags over bow

Happilyanonymous
10-29-2021, 05:25 AM
Problem is rogues rly dont use basic attack as much as skills. Trying to proc with basic attack so u can charge attack is too hard.

Plus the water effect is darker after update but with auras etc..its still hard to see so u can miss ur window for the charged attack.

I've only tested the bow and it's a 1 hit wonder for boss but leaves rogue vulnerable to mobs.

I will keep dug dags because it procs with skills and helps rogues more with mobs since we dont have aoe skills.



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dangibg
10-29-2021, 06:03 AM
Bcs if u so the maths with ur dug dag lets say u do 50-75% ( x1.5-x1.75) more dmg (just you)
With new dags everyone does 110-150% (x2.1-x2.5) more dmg means 4x2.5 at best, do the maths :)
Most ppl don’t realize that, not to mention they dont read descriptions and are not using it the right way, afterwards hating sts which is not right
New dag 10/10


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Uereazagr
10-29-2021, 06:24 AM
Bcs if u so the maths with ur dug dag lets say u do 50-75% ( x1.5-x1.75) more dmg (just you)
With new dags everyone does 110-150% (x2.1-x2.5) more dmg means 4x2.5 at best, do the maths :)
Most ppl don’t realize that, not to mention they dont read descriptions and are not using it the right way, afterwards hating sts which is not right
New dag 10/10


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That’s the main problem :( that they dont realize how good it is

snakeeyes
10-29-2021, 06:34 AM
Bcs if u so the maths with ur dug dag lets say u do 50-75% ( x1.5-x1.75) more dmg (just you)
With new dags everyone does 110-150% (x2.1-x2.5) more dmg means 4x2.5 at best, do the maths :)
Most ppl don’t realize that, not to mention they dont read descriptions and are not using it the right way, afterwards hating sts which is not right
New dag 10/10


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As a rogue you can do solo on sunken map fast using your new weapon?

Uereazagr
10-29-2021, 06:44 AM
As a rogue you can do solo on sunken map fast using your new weapon?

Yep, proc is very good for mobs, I started thread because felt underpowered when u solo boss

snakeeyes
10-29-2021, 06:55 AM
Yep, proc is very good for mobs, I started thread because felt underpowered when u solo boss

Ahh i see thats op especially for party run or full runners on map to make all damage heavily, same as duggar daggers you can kill mobs fast just need some hb damage reduce to do solo on mobs and boss too.

snakeeyes
10-29-2021, 06:59 AM
Hope dev can explain how armor reduce % can do on boss because i read long time ago the boss is more hp than armor, and armor reduce didnt stack.

-Rogue-
10-29-2021, 07:14 AM
New dag 10/10

Lol, new dagger is total trash, its fact
Good luck at your sales
238877

snakeeyes
10-29-2021, 07:36 AM
Lol, new dagger is total trash, its fact
Good luck at your sales
238877

Its our choice if we buy that if worth but for me not worth to buy with 50m+ as long as i can test i can do solo on sunken map mobs and boss with duggar, but if myth dagger can help kill the final boss on zodias fast without dying i will say its worth with 100m+

-Rogue-
10-29-2021, 07:39 AM
Its our choice if we buy that if worth but for me not worth to buy with 50m+ as long as i can test i can do solo on sunken map mobs and boss with duggar, but if myth dagger can help kill the final boss on zodias fast without dying i will say its worth with 100m+

obviously that new mythic bow can help you kill final boss fast :D not daggers

Uereazagr
10-29-2021, 07:41 AM
Its our choice if we buy that if worth but for me not worth to buy with 50m+ as long as i can test i can do solo on sunken map mobs and boss with duggar, but if myth dagger can help kill the final boss on zodias fast without dying i will say its worth with 100m+

Arcanes are not coming soon so you gotta work with what you got ;)

snakeeyes
10-29-2021, 07:43 AM
Arcanes are not coming soon so you gotta work with what you got ;)

Thats a marketing strategy to sell that on high price before the price go down i got it.

Uereazagr
10-29-2021, 07:51 AM
Thats a marketing strategy to sell that on high price before the price go down i got it.

Why would price go down even?

snakeeyes
10-29-2021, 07:53 AM
obviously that new mythic bow can help you kill final boss fast :D not daggers

Yeah i hope so because bow is a single target good on boss but not on mobs. I think bow is worth for 100m+ if we rogue didnt die on final boss,

snakeeyes
10-29-2021, 07:55 AM
Why would price go down even?

When arcane 81 come, and besides dev say all myth 81can drop to all lock event lol

Uereazagr
10-29-2021, 08:06 AM
When arcane 81 come, and besides dev say all myth 81can drop to all lock event lol

1st— Cinco said, that arcanes are not coming earlier than sometime in 2022.
2nd— imma be straight w u— when I buy something I want quality, like in the case with neptalis where it clearly lost to polaris and someone khm, khm, told that to cinco, and what do we have now?Polaris is still debatably better, but neptalis is now usable and good.I want this to be the case with rogue as well, imagine buying expensive weapon to resell and after buff it still loses to bow and is hardly better than duggar daggers(in solo) lol

dangibg
10-29-2021, 08:09 AM
Lol, new dagger is total trash, its fact
Good luck at your sales
238877

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20211029/234498bef3e1202b9797ec55484e4159.jpg
Its trash for those who have lack of brain cells, ty for your wishes ^^


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Uereazagr
10-29-2021, 08:11 AM
https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20211029/234498bef3e1202b9797ec55484e4159.jpg
Its trash for those who have lack of brain cells, ty for your wishes ^^


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snakeeyes
10-29-2021, 08:12 AM
1st— Cinco said, that arcanes are not coming earlier than sometime in 2022.
2nd— imma be straight w u— when I buy something I want quality, like in the case with neptalis where it clearly lost to polaris and someone khm, khm, told that to cinco, and what do we have now?Polaris is still debatably better, but neptalis is now usable and good.I want this to be the case with rogue as well, imagine buying expensive weapon to resell and after buff it still loses to bow and is hardly better than duggar daggers(in solo) lol

can i see how op is that in solo? party me in game

Uereazagr
10-29-2021, 08:15 AM
can i see how op is that in solo? party me in game

You can have my word for it. I tested with momonei and it is just a bit better(I’m a warrior main btw)

mmorpgmx
10-29-2021, 08:16 AM
I made a video with the new dagger buff, may check it here https://youtu.be/zGy77NQ5YCM

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snakeeyes
10-29-2021, 08:19 AM
we all want to kill final boss on zodias can i see how you kill sunken boss?

Uereazagr
10-29-2021, 08:20 AM
we all want to kill final boss on zodias can i see how you kill sunken boss?

Kraken is not opened yet bro, today-tomorrow sure

dangibg
10-29-2021, 08:21 AM
I made a video with the new dagger buff, may check it here https://youtu.be/zGy77NQ5YCM

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U better make video with a full team vs boss cuz daggers are not a weapon for solo running, as it is the game itself, unless u plan to kill raha, ekenta etc etc solo dont make tests solo :) daggers benefit 4 person, when u make video alone u show 25% of their potential ty


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snakeeyes
10-29-2021, 08:21 AM
Kraken is not opened yet bro, today-tomorrow sure

i wanna see how it works on sunken 1st map boss solo, means solo got it.

Uereazagr
10-29-2021, 08:24 AM
i wanna see how it works on sunken 1st map boss solo, means solo got it.

Zodias bosses are terrible for tests because they stun, pull, debuff, disarm etc… got any else?

dangibg
10-29-2021, 08:24 AM
i wanna see how it works on sunken 1st map boss solo, means solo got it.

If you plan to play solo for the rest of your life mythic dagger is not for u :) stick with Duggar


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snakeeyes
10-29-2021, 08:26 AM
U better make video with a full team vs boss cuz daggers are not a weapon for solo running, as it is the game itself, unless u plan to kill raha, ekenta etc etc solo dont make tests solo :) daggers benefit 4 person, when u make video alone u show 25% of their potential ty


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thats what i said dagger is op i think for party and full 4 runners on map, if dagger can kill the final boss that can drop expenssive eggs items and gl. imagine it can lower the defence of boss 1 myth dagger +3 op war rogue and mage, i will say its worth

snakeeyes
10-29-2021, 08:28 AM
If you plan to play solo for the rest of your life mythic dagger is not for u :) stick with Duggar


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im not saying im a solo runner lol, you said its op than 76 weapon thats why i reply.

dangibg
10-29-2021, 08:30 AM
thats what i said dagger is op i think for party and full 4 runners on map, if dagger can kill the final boss that can drop expenssive eggs items and gl. imagine it can lower the defence of boss 1 myth dagger +3 op war rogue and mage, i will say its worth

I will make a new post i did test with my friend bow deal 660k normally, 1.35m when dagger debuff, now include the 2 other potential players + your dmg


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snakeeyes
10-29-2021, 08:32 AM
I will make a new post i did test with my friend bow deal 660k normally, 1.35m when dagger debuff, now include the 2 other potential players + your dmg


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not a bow because i knew bow is op on boss damage, you said its dagger only

snakeeyes
10-29-2021, 08:35 AM
I will make a new post i did test with my friend bow deal 660k normally, 1.35m when dagger debuff, now include the 2 other potential players + your dmg


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thats why i said its op for 4 player run. hope dagger can help to kill the final boss fast. we all want to kill final boss fast right? i read your reply its op than 76 dagg so meand no need to use 76 dagg.

Uereazagr
10-29-2021, 08:59 AM
Here are some tests:
https://youtu.be/fHquSZngkYI Pisces vs orrick
https://youtu.be/7p7uDuIcwts Marianos vs orrick
https://youtu.be/FxEW3AwkLhE Pisces infamous damage reduction penalty for boss

I guess I was, indeed, wrong about pisces.This +neptalis for example is going to destroy rahab for sure.Maybe will upload neptalis and pisces duo later

Uereazagr
10-29-2021, 01:46 PM
Adding neptalis with pisces
https://youtu.be/QA5Ea30ssIA
Now imagine if I had bd build and 2 more warriors in party lol feel sorry for rahab

xcopyrightx
10-29-2021, 08:16 PM
Lol, new dagger is total trash, its fact
Good luck at your sales
238877his sales talked is very good. promoting new dagger is very op. cuz he want to sell his dagger at overpriced.. [emoji16][emoji16][emoji16]

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xcopyrightx
10-29-2021, 08:18 PM
obviously that new mythic bow can help you kill final boss fast :D not daggerstrue. bow is op not a dagger.
dagger proc more.on protection.
bow proc more on damage.

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dangibg
10-29-2021, 08:21 PM
true. bow is op not a dagger.
dagger proc more.on protection.
bow proc more on damage.

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Another dumb comment anyway im glad you shared your opinion


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xcopyrightx
10-29-2021, 08:22 PM
Another dumb comment anyway im glad you shared your opinion


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalkdumb lol, maybe u.
if u say dagger is op. why did u sell it in auction? lol [emoji16][emoji16][emoji16]

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dangibg
10-29-2021, 08:24 PM
dumb lol, maybe u.
if u say dagger is op. why did u sell it in auction? lol [emoji16][emoji16][emoji16]

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Cuz i have 1 more for myself :)))
Also here if you dont know what dagger can do, since u all go UuUuU dAmAgE ¡!¡ oOgGa bOoGa https://youtu.be/QA5Ea30ssIA

Would you rather deal 1m dmg or deal 500k and make your 3 teammates deal 1m instead of 500k
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Xuds
10-29-2021, 09:15 PM
dumb lol, maybe u.
if u say dagger is op. why did u sell it in auction? lol [emoji16][emoji16][emoji16]

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snakeeyes
10-29-2021, 09:53 PM
Thats a marketing strategy to sell that on high price before the price go down i got it.

🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔 Im thinking

snakeeyes
10-29-2021, 10:46 PM
Here are some tests:
https://youtu.be/fHquSZngkYI Pisces vs orrick
https://youtu.be/7p7uDuIcwts Marianos vs orrick
https://youtu.be/FxEW3AwkLhE Pisces infamous damage reduction penalty for boss

I guess I was, indeed, wrong about pisces.This +neptalis for example is going to destroy rahab for sure.Maybe will upload neptalis and pisces duo later

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=zutiWpVY_Vg

About pisces vs orrick i think lvl 81 with 81 weapon with warior that have myth 81, I can kill him in solo at my lvl 76 how else if I have a warior with me with myth 81 and also im 81, I can also kill mobs on sunken fleet just like the other rogue that kill the mobs there. so how did myth 81 become more op than duggar dagger? Besides the olrick is lvl 71 boss and gap with lvl 81 rogue with lvl 81 mythic dagger.

Avta
10-30-2021, 01:44 AM
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=zutiWpVY_Vg

About pisces vs orrick i think lvl 81 with 81 weapon with warior that have myth 81, I can kill him in solo at my lvl 76 how else if I have a warior with me with myth 81 and also im 81, I can also kill mobs on sunken fleet just like the other rogue that kill the mobs there. so how did myth 81 become more op than duggar dagger? Besides the olrick is lvl 71 boss and gap with lvl 81 rogue with lvl 81 mythic dagger.Myth 81 dagger makes boss armor low so ur teammates can kill boss

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dangibg
10-30-2021, 03:14 AM
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=zutiWpVY_Vg

About pisces vs orrick i think lvl 81 with 81 weapon with warior that have myth 81, I can kill him in solo at my lvl 76 how else if I have a warior with me with myth 81 and also im 81, I can also kill mobs on sunken fleet just like the other rogue that kill the mobs there. so how did myth 81 become more op than duggar dagger? Besides the olrick is lvl 71 boss and gap with lvl 81 rogue with lvl 81 mythic dagger.

Nah fam im tired of explaining the same thing over and over u just cant do maths i get it, dont buy the new weapon stick with your rotten dugs if you want ty


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Uereazagr
10-30-2021, 03:26 AM
true. bow is op not a dagger.
dagger proc more.on protection.
bow proc more on damage.

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Bow sucks vs mobs, ask a bow owner.

dangibg
10-31-2021, 04:35 AM
https://youtu.be/SiuZdpOw9Bk there encryptions video of buffed 81 rog weaps :)))


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Lilmozey
11-03-2021, 07:22 PM
Bow sucks vs mobs, ask a bow owner.Daggs is for mobs bow is for boss basically

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Vuhoangtc1
11-03-2021, 08:09 PM
so everyone please tell me if we use dag 81, will it apply dame to the skill when proc? for example when your proc dame is around 20-25k for example!! your skill dame can be 200-300k are not ?

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