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Vqnities
10-30-2021, 05:45 PM
So I’ve gone around and asked many people on feedback regarding new myths and I will list the changes that I think should be made if anyone disagrees I completely understand please leave any comments below

Bow:
The only issue I’ve heard with bow is not being able to see when you proc and that it is very laggy when you do proc other then that most people see the bow is pretty good I also think it has decent boss damage and mob control I don’t see any need to change bow anymore in pve just minor visual change please

As for pvp I think the bow is quite op being able to one shot in aoe is a game changer and not a good one I think bow should be nerfed in pvp so that you will atleast not be able to completely one shot someone

Daggers:
I for one think the daggers are a good concept in a whole and I think they are in a good place rn I havnt heard any complaints on them so far and that is good

Sword:
So I literally had to spend about 20 minutes teaching someone how to use proc on sword because of one minor visual glitch people also thought sword didn’t work in pvp for this reason when you proc eel shock with basic the eels do come but you can barely notice them there need to be a worded text on proc added like the other myths other then that sword is really good has nice boss damage and for pvp I don’t think it’s to broken you can’t one shot on charge proc so that’s good sword seems fine to me

Aegis:
I think aegis is really good for pve has very nice mob control and can get really good boss damage off when used with the right combos in pvp I don’t know what you were really going for cinco I think huge aoe slow is cool maybe add small dot not to big but small dot to the proc give it a little more use for pvp

Staff:
Well I’ve been running the staff for a bit and after nerf it think it’s still good I mean it’s like dugg daggers for mage imo idk maybe I would want a little more damage but I’m probably asking for to much other then that it’s pretty good maybe if someone has good stats it’ll be more effective

GUN:
I really really REALLY think gun should be reverted back to original state nothing was wrong with it it was only good for boss damage the aoe damage on proc wasn’t so good to kill multiple enemies maybe like 2 so I didn’t even use it on mobs what was the point in nerfing the damage so much I guess I could say the proc chance is fine now but please buff damage on gun that is all I ask and many other players who have gun are very upset because I’m gonna be honest it was actually fun to use when got nerfed felt boring but all in all cinco I think you should rethink this one revert gun nerf keep proc as is and for pvp well if you ask me I think gun needs nerf can also one shot like bow which is unfair so nerf damage on charge shot damage in pvp so you will have to use basic shots for damage

With that this is all I have to say if you actually decided to read all of this thank you you’re a soldier I talk to much anyways good day


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dangibg
10-30-2021, 05:52 PM
Have used both rog weapons and i agree with you on both
+1


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will0
10-30-2021, 06:20 PM
i suggest the mythic gun process is like skratch gun will process without charging or increase charging process chance + increase damage wise it is quite bad should comparable to Bow

hunter666
10-30-2021, 09:48 PM
Tbh, myth aeg is hard to proc after update and with the removal of procing while just spamming normal attacks makes it more unsatisfying. I hope if they could revert back that mechanic, coz some early/old legendary weaps could proc while just spamming normal or charged attacks.

Stephencobear
10-30-2021, 10:04 PM
i suggest the mythic gun process is like skratch gun will process without charging or increase charging process chance + increase damage wise it is quite bad should comparable to Bow

Agreed
The idea that one weapon should suffer that loss of effectiveness (to charge in order to proc)
while others don’t, can make an unnecessary class imbalance

Staffs have been better than guns for some time- for no reason

Vqnities
10-30-2021, 10:05 PM
Agreed
The idea that one weapon should suffer that loss of effectiveness (to charge in order to proc)
while others don’t, can make an unnecessary class imbalance

Staffs have been better than guns for some time- for no reason

I like the idea of charge to proc charge has been used in pvp for so long I have no issue transferring it to pve


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Potofgreed
10-31-2021, 08:39 AM
Agreed
The idea that one weapon should suffer that loss of effectiveness (to charge in order to proc)
while others don’t, can make an unnecessary class imbalance

Staffs have been better than guns for some time- for no reasonExplain why force charge was implemented in these weapons?

because there is a reason. im just curious if you know and understand why ?





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Vqnities
10-31-2021, 08:42 AM
Explain why force charge was implemented in these weapons?

because there is a reason. im just curious if you know and understand why ?





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Force charge is obviously them trying to add more mechanics to the game this is great idk why people want the same repetitive thing over and over it’s time for new


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Potofgreed
10-31-2021, 11:26 AM
Force charge is obviously them trying to add more mechanics to the game this is great idk why people want the same repetitive thing over and over it’s time for new


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i didnt ask you i asked mr cobear.
your also missing some details.

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flashio
10-31-2021, 12:30 PM
Having "charge" as a must requirement to proc isn't too adequate, a mechanic similar to terror blade is perfect, you can proc while doing non-charged attacks but by charging attack you get a higher proc rate, nonetheless, having non-utility procs require charge can cause further disadvantages since basic attacks are likely to miss due to dodge % on other players and hit reduce debuff from mobs/boss/arcane abilities/pet passives, utility procs such as Terror blade don't get as affected to this fact since their main use is to speed up the farming process whilst procs made to deal massive amounts of dmg can't fulfill their purpose efficiently.
Hope the sts team take this into consideration for future gear proc system, charging should serve as a way to improve skills/Dmg, not as a requirement that slows the farm.

PatD
10-31-2021, 04:24 PM
This proc system is funny at first but get boring very fast, take too much time to proc, and many time we cant even charge proc cuz we get stun or hit, and many time boss get kill even before we can apply a charge proc hit, so after using sword for 1 week and now aegis for about the same time i can say that i dont find any of those weapon fun to use on the long term, increase proc rate alot for all myth would help to make it much more satisfying imo

will0
10-31-2021, 05:02 PM
This proc system is funny at first but get boring very fast, take too much time to proc, and many time we cant even charge proc cuz we get stun or hit, and many time boss get kill even before we can apply a charge proc hit, so after using sword for 1 week and now aegis for about the same time i can say that i dont find any of those weapon fun to use on the long term, increase proc rate alot for all myth would help to make it much more satisfying imo

Yes that's' what happen to hyperon gun same methodology, sometime mages died without shield when charging the gun for process and it is very slow in charging. mythic gun process now only after 3-4 x charging unlike before nerf as they do not have high hp like warrior.

To use on the process on the bosses at level 81 (zodiac boss) the process chance of the gun is literally low % due to the limitation of nerf and charging of the gun

dangibg
10-31-2021, 05:25 PM
Yes that's' what happen to hyperon gun same methodology, sometime mages died without shield when charging the gun for process and it is very slow in charging. mythic gun process now only after 3-4 x charging unlike before nerf as they do not have high hp like warrior.

To use on the process on the bosses at level 81 (zodiac boss) the process chance of the gun is literally low % due to the limitation of nerf and charging of the gun

Haste exists guys :)


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Ilove_Poopoo
10-31-2021, 11:57 PM
Haste exists guys :)


Sent from my iPhone using TapatalkHaste doesn't affect charging speeds. Only basic attacks.

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lissil
11-01-2021, 02:35 AM
I'm pretty sure they won't be changing the charge mechanics of the new weaps. Sometimes it takes too many charged attacks just to get the mark (only tried the gun), then another extra charge to start the proc. I just wish they decrease the charging time to make it a bit more useful.

Nexior
11-01-2021, 02:52 AM
Haste exists guys :)


Sent from my iPhone using TapatalkShall u test before typing non sense.



On mage side is definitely no reason to buy new gun , compare to skratch gun is still way better.

dangibg
11-01-2021, 02:54 AM
Haste doesn't affect charging speeds. Only basic attacks.

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It does :)


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Ilove_Poopoo
11-01-2021, 02:54 AM
It does :)


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dangibg
11-01-2021, 02:59 AM
Shall u test before typing non sense.



On mage side is definitely no reason to buy new gun , compare to skratch gun is still way better.
Ima test with mage r rn

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Nexior
11-01-2021, 03:01 AM
No shall you test, or is arc senti h tad and 76 amu too expensive for u


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dangibg
11-01-2021, 03:03 AM
XD how u want charge faster basic skill when its not effected of any AA , HB or other sheet ? XD
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Apparently i was wrong, tested it, my bad
Came to this conclusion cuz mythic dagger charges much faster than others
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will0
11-01-2021, 05:58 PM
I'm pretty sure they won't be changing the charge mechanics of the new weaps. Sometimes it takes too many charged attacks just to get the mark (only tried the gun), then another extra charge to start the proc. I just wish they decrease the charging time to make it a bit more useful.

hope @Cinco can do something with the mythic gun charging mechanism which takes too long .. yesterday i tried in new map again sometime i charge 5-6 x it wont even mark the mini boss..... a bit frustrating to use it.

Tuhguhbuhbuh
11-02-2021, 12:42 PM
81 mythics nothing but overpriced, dunno if it's drop rate or people not opening locks or both.

Fearrr
11-02-2021, 09:02 PM
I agree with Hunter666 and PatD about Aegis. I hope Proc Rate and Charging can be looked at again for the Mythics that need it.
@Cinco

lissil
11-03-2021, 09:01 AM
hope @Cinco can do something with the mythic gun charging mechanism which takes too long .. yesterday i tried in new map again sometime i charge 5-6 x it wont even mark the mini boss..... a bit frustrating to use it.

Yup. I recently tried daggers. While I do agree that it probably has the same proc rate as the other weaps in terms of proc rate per charge, I can't help but wonder if they considered the charging time of each weapon in determining the rate.

capeo
11-03-2021, 12:10 PM
Sword has 3 steps and you can't see the first one. I just randomly charge hit every 4 or 5 normal hits. I have never even seen the Eel shock proc work once in pvp. Hit the marked target all you want it doesn't proc. Even the shield damage buff doesn't work in pvp. It will proc the blue aura but after that nothing.

Lilmozey
11-03-2021, 07:18 PM
Maybe if the gun can proc just by charging once then spamming it to proc because by the time I proc gun in deep marsh it's already time to switch to gold loot to gun takes a while to proc everything is great excited to see what the new arcanes bring!

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