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Inozuke
11-14-2021, 12:13 PM
I've been out of the game for half a month, and everything is at x2 or x3 of its normal price, what has happened if there is no good source of income as before?

Avta
11-14-2021, 12:17 PM
Manipulation at its finest :D

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firebelt & crystalkiller
11-14-2021, 12:21 PM
I've been out of the game for half a month, and everything is at x2 or x3 of its normal price, what has happened if there is no good source of income as before?Awake gems/ non vanity items haven't increased.. Just vanities ig.. So ya what the 1st commentor said prolly.

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toetoedevil
11-14-2021, 12:29 PM
make some investment with vanity.dont sell it now. sell it later

firebelt & crystalkiller
11-14-2021, 12:31 PM
make some investment with vanity.dont sell it now. sell it laterDosnt work... You have to hoard exactly what manipulators are doing their work with...many good looking vanities are the same price or lower rn..also awake gems/elite gems have better increase/time ratio always unless there's some booty event or smthing which will never happen.

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Inozuke
11-14-2021, 12:34 PM
make some investment with vanity.dont sell it now. sell it later

no thanks, we are 1 month away from one of the most beloved events and good hopes in vanities of the year
I'll wait better

Antibaby
11-14-2021, 12:58 PM
Manipulation that all

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Encryptions
11-14-2021, 02:05 PM
Honestly I have not noticed any price differentials lately with the economy. If items are rising then that means people are farming maps more often with the new mythics since they are fun to use which results in more gold being made. I am able to 1 shot the dragon in dm with my sword using ulti, I have wiped all 5 bosses in under 2 mins with the sword so thats my only theory. Take a look at the lv 81 map bars, they are filling up way faster than they were before so maps are being ran a lot more.

kulldeepboro
11-14-2021, 02:14 PM
its simple math ,group of people will say that a item cost 250m . other people who have that item will wait for its confirmation and will say yes it does because they will be profited if its price is actually true . now those who had it wont sell because they see the potential on it and will wait for future, hoping to see its price reaching 500m . now demands get high because everyone wants to have expensive item with them either to flex or for self satisfaction ,but supply will be zero since none will sell until they are broke . then people will see other people wanting to buy it ,once a particular amount of time passes with 250m(fake price) it becomes the actual price . lie until its become true

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capeo
11-14-2021, 03:20 PM
All items cost what people are willing to pay.

QuaseT
11-14-2021, 03:24 PM
Very few items tripled in price, very few items dropped by 2/3 of its price too btw. Deep marsh is an insane gold loot farm atm. Expansion maps are quite fast with mythics. Cakes add few gold to economy too. Manipulation is a thing but looks like pathetic attempts to me.

Uereazagr
11-14-2021, 04:36 PM
I like how everyone has a different opinion on this, but no one remembers this year’s Jarl— an event where some individual players farmed up to 500m of pure gold.

Mobilebeast
11-14-2021, 06:00 PM
Yall forgot jarl event huh

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QuaseT
11-14-2021, 06:05 PM
Yall forgot jarl event huh

Sent from my INE-LX2r using TapatalkHe said he was away for 2 weeks and jarl event was before that.

Ilove_Poopoo
11-14-2021, 08:04 PM
He said he was away for 2 weeks and jarl event was before that.Jarl had boosted the economy with gold quick, and its effects were long-lasting. Notice how alot of things had rosed up shortly after Jarl.

This has always been the case with these gold mine events, similar to previous years' booty events, in which inflation rates of mostly vanities were significantly raised in such a short timeframe.

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Mythocrisis
11-15-2021, 01:53 AM
I like how everyone has a different opinion on this, but no one remembers this year’s Jarl— an event where some individual players farmed up to 500m of pure gold.

You clearly pull numbers from somewhere other than your brain.

Running with 850% gl got me 1 mil in 30 mins-- >
Inclusive of remapping time and load times.

500m so takes me..
15000 minutes or 250 hours or 10 days of full time running.

Mind you 10 days out of 14 without sleep or eating or essentials.

Mobilebeast
11-15-2021, 02:18 AM
You clearly pull numbers from somewhere other than your brain.

Running with 850% gl got me 1 mil in 30 mins-- >
Inclusive of remapping time and load times.

500m so takes me..
15000 minutes or 250 hours or 10 days of full time running.

Mind you 10 days out of 14 without sleep or eating or essentials.Lol this dude I myself have 300gl and made 350m, event not only drop gold but also items that are worth millions.. Rings location, furnitures and other stuff imagine other who got higher gl and drop many items

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chiiwawa
11-15-2021, 09:19 AM
Dosnt work... You have to hoard exactly what manipulators are doing their work with...many good looking vanities are the same price or lower rn..also awake gems/elite gems have better increase/time ratio always unless there's some booty event or smthing which will never happen.

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Everyone in the game had the same opportunities to collect vanitys when they were cheaper for future profits Just like the so called "Manipulators" as their being called did. There is NO STS rule or limit against buying multiple vanitys for future sales and big profits. People are just angry that they didnt grind enough gold or have the vision that others did to make these investments.

QuaseT
11-15-2021, 09:39 AM
Everyone in the game had the same opportunities to collect vanitys when they were cheaper for future profits Just like the so called "Manipulators" as their being called did. There is NO STS rule or limit against buying multiple vanitys for future sales and big profits. People are just angry that they didnt grind enough gold or have the vision that others did to make these investments.I dont think he is talking about that but about specific groups who create fake threads, fake offers, fake accounts to strategically boost prices of individual items. When you actually try to sell/buy the item for their price you will recognize how many of those people do not reply or do not even own the item they are selling.

firebelt & crystalkiller
11-15-2021, 10:55 AM
I dont think he is talking about that but about specific groups who create fake threads, fake offers, fake accounts to strategically boost prices of individual items. When you actually try to sell/buy the item for their price you will recognize how many of those people do not reply or do not even own the item they are selling.Yep ddnt reply to him cuz thought it was pointless... But yea I meant what you said.

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Xuds
11-15-2021, 11:47 AM
One of the reasons is example:

Seller: Selling X offer setting auto later
(In mind 10m auto)
Buyer 1: 3m
Buyer 2: 7m
Buyer 3: 12m
Seller: Setting auto 15m
Buyer 2: (well someone already offered 12 and close to auto...) Buy 15m pm in game
~~~~~~~~
People need to learn to be patient and wait for an auto, theres no need to throw out offers when you know the buyer is gonna ask for more

And this process will repeat itself when its the same time. People will say (this item sold for 15m so ill offer 15 right away) Then that just causes to go even more because the buyer will obviously just wait for more offers. Ect raising it to 20m more because he saw a 15m offer right away

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Analytical
11-15-2021, 12:10 PM
One of the reasons is example:

Seller: Selling X offer setting auto later
(In mind 10m auto)
Buyer 1: 3m
Buyer 2: 7m
Buyer 3: 12m
Seller: Setting auto 15m
Buyer 2: (well someone already offered 12 and close to auto...) Buy 15m pm in game
~~~~~~~~
People need to learn to be patient and wait for an auto, theres no need to throw out offers when you know the buyer is gonna ask for more

And this process will repeat itself when its the same time. People will say (this item sold for 15m so ill offer 15 right away) Then that just causes to go even more because the buyer will obviously just wait for more offers. Ect raising it to 20m more because he saw a 15m offer right away

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Bro people can only be patient with relatively common items (i.e. they can wait other sellers to sell like in the case of loots from locks, most people are quite patient to wait till end of event to buy tho there are still some who would buy thinking that it won't fall more.)

If an item is rare, people would want to grab it as fast as they can because they know price would rise even more if they don't grab it now, especially with LB vanities. It's like if they wait, they may be fighting with more buyers in the future as supply is decreasing (as more ppl hold on to them and refused to sell) and demand is rising.

Nexior
11-15-2021, 01:02 PM
You clearly pull numbers from somewhere other than your brain.

Running with 850% gl got me 1 mil in 30 mins-- >
Inclusive of remapping time and load times.

500m so takes me..
15000 minutes or 250 hours or 10 days of full time running.

Mind you 10 days out of 14 without sleep or eating or essentials.Funny i was doing 6m in hour with 1k gl set


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gobbels
11-15-2021, 01:20 PM
Shouldn't worry about prices bro, money comes and goes, like does love.

Just get good work irl, and u can be rich with plat buying, no matter what.

Levistonyy
11-15-2021, 07:52 PM
Manipulation at its finest :D

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There is an easy solution to solve manipulation just allow trade by auction let them manipulate and put up the cost of auction fee let see how long they can survive

Encryptions
11-15-2021, 08:10 PM
There is an easy solution to solve manipulation just allow trade by auction let them manipulate and put up the cost of auction fee let see how long they can survive

How do we lend gold then? Also people can still send msgs.

Levistonyy
11-15-2021, 08:19 PM
Everything can only be done through auction even if you want lend gold can go through auction

Encryptions
11-15-2021, 08:44 PM
Everything can only be done through auction even if you want lend gold can go through auction

I lend people 100m-500m+ gold often. I rather we not pay taxes to lend gold because that would be a 5-25m+ tax.

Paktwo
11-16-2021, 07:07 AM
I Bought 2.1m worth lepre banner at year 2014 then sold 1.1 billion last month and now I'm rich n peymus

Huryamma
11-16-2021, 04:15 PM
its simple math ,group of people will say that a item cost 250m . other people who have that item will wait for its confirmation and will say yes it does because they will be profited if its price is actually true . now those who had it wont sell because they see the potential on it and will wait for future, hoping to see its price reaching 500m . now demands get high because everyone wants to have expensive item with them either to flex or for self satisfaction ,but supply will be zero since none will sell until they are broke . then people will see other people wanting to buy it ,once a particular amount of time passes with 250m(fake price) it becomes the actual price . lie until its become true

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Sounds about right

Trenton
11-16-2021, 04:22 PM
You clearly pull numbers from somewhere other than your brain.

Running with 850% gl got me 1 mil in 30 mins-- >
Inclusive of remapping time and load times.

500m so takes me..
15000 minutes or 250 hours or 10 days of full time running.

Mind you 10 days out of 14 without sleep or eating or essentials.

Running with absolutely no gold loot at all and killing boss/mini bosses ended me with 1m/hr. So apparently you were doing something wrong

Not saying 500m was obtainable but 2m/hr with ridiculous gold loot is not wonderful


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Mobilebeast
11-16-2021, 04:31 PM
Running with absolutely no gold loot at all and killing boss/mini bosses ended me with 1m/hr. So apparently you were doing something wrong

Not saying 500m was obtainable but 2m/hr with ridiculous gold loot is not wonderful


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Xyv.io
11-16-2021, 06:40 PM
Funny i was doing 6m in hour with 1k gl set


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Only? I was doing 10m/hr with 600gl.. you're slow buddy

Paktwo
11-16-2021, 09:02 PM
Earning 200m in 1hr by opening lock ez gold

firebelt & crystalkiller
11-16-2021, 10:31 PM
Only? I was doing 10m/hr with 600gl.. you're slow buddyI ddnt play the event l..so can I ask..is that pure gold drop or did you include item drops too..saw Soo many comments similar to this.
Only..and only gold drops will contribute to inflation..item drops and their value dosnt.

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Ilove_Poopoo
11-16-2021, 11:23 PM
I ddnt play the event l..so can I ask..is that pure gold drop or did you include item drops too..saw Soo many comments similar to this.
Only..and only gold drops will contribute to inflation..item drops and their value dosnt.

Sent from my MAR-LX1A using TapatalkI think it was a sarcastic reply. With 830gl awakes with 470ms, all lixed up, while doing one of the most efficient pulls, I was doing 420k-500k/10mins solo. And Upto 4.5m in an organized group along with 400ms+ users as well.

So I don't know where the other ppl here get their figures from, very exaggerated.



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freebump
11-17-2021, 12:24 AM
coz everyone lost their mind with the expansion.. instead of running maps, they are in town flexing

Nocturnus
11-17-2021, 12:28 AM
Everyone here is forgetting one big factor, expansion.
This expansion brought many changes, bad for most of the great farmers, who have left the game, there are no good maps to play, weapons suck etc.
The large base of players who continually farm evg simply left the game, all these people are the ones who had the most coveted items of recent times, including aura, vanitys, etc. they sold and bought items and moved the market.
Blaming jarl is silly, it was just a gl event after a month dead. Even in evg people got much more gold in less time and every 2 days, for more than 1 year.
The real problem here is that half of the farmer base left the game, because they have nowhere to farm. And this makes the job easier for price manipulators, as you call them, who have always existed. Since there are no items to spend with, the people who have these items just keep it.
In short, people have gold but the market does not move, or does not move as fast as it used to, even gears are obsolete and are worth nothing, so it is easy to arm yourself with little gold.
Also with so much mindless gold the pressure is on those coveted auras, vanitys or items.

cocexpertiese
11-17-2021, 04:13 AM
Tell me how to ger 1m /hour with no gl

firebelt & crystalkiller
11-17-2021, 04:26 AM
Tell me how to ger 1m /hour with no glHoard 17856m worth awake gems on each awake event. you will get 1m/r doing nothing.(assuming awake gems rise from 30k to 40k)

I'm bored ok don't judge me.

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Oawaoebi
11-17-2021, 04:40 AM
Inflation is when the energy kits costed between 30k-60k 7 years ago and now they are at 90-120k. That’s an inflation. There you can see that the gold ingame increases. But when an item like aura rises 30m over night its not at all inflation it’s manipulation.


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Ilove_Poopoo
11-17-2021, 04:53 AM
Everyone here is forgetting one big factor, expansion.
This expansion brought many changes, bad for most of the great farmers, who have left the game, there are no good maps to play, weapons suck etc.
The large base of players who continually farm evg simply left the game, all these people are the ones who had the most coveted items of recent times, including aura, vanitys, etc. they sold and bought items and moved the market.
Blaming jarl is silly, it was just a gl event after a month dead. Even in evg people got much more gold in less time and every 2 days, for more than 1 year.
The real problem here is that half of the farmer base left the game, because they have nowhere to farm. And this makes the job easier for price manipulators, as you call them, who have always existed. Since there are no items to spend with, the people who have these items just keep it.
In short, people have gold but the market does not move, or does not move as fast as it used to, even gears are obsolete and are worth nothing, so it is easy to arm yourself with little gold.
Also with so much mindless gold the pressure is on those coveted auras, vanitys or items.

Exactly this.

The release of the expansion and the downfall of EVG meant that a good chunk of the farming community had sold their farming sets, resulted to expenditures shifting toward vanities, primarily aura's as investments. The amount of my farming buddies who are now covered with heaps of vanities, and auras playing the mannequin challenge in town nowadays... waiting for a miracle to happen with the expansion.





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gobbels
11-17-2021, 05:23 AM
"Everything" for u seems to be like vanities only. Most equipment (pve/pvp/gl/) gears that actually affect ur game-play items been going down after expansion.

Susanne
11-17-2021, 06:25 AM
Exactly this.

The release of the expansion and the downfall of EVG meant that a good chunk of the farming community had sold their farming sets, resulted to expenditures shifting toward vanities, primarily aura's as investments. The amount of my farming buddies who are now covered with heaps of vanities, and auras playing the mannequin challenge in town nowadays... waiting for a miracle to happen with the expansion.





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This is true and also many farmers have left the game or gone on a long break.
One veteran player came back after a few years, a friend of mine, looked at my house and said, "arcane sims"..then went.
😞

Gamegrog
11-17-2021, 06:51 AM
this whole game economy is a literal joke
auc is filled with trash vanities crossing over 10 mil for no apparent reason
idk man if sts didnt bring certain price regulations the manipulators will just grow.

Titanium
11-17-2021, 09:58 AM
I used to tell people to check how much items are worth on forum before they buy/sell anything.

Looking it now, i wouldn't recommend noone to do that, until all these gold gonna sink (from jarl event) with the next awake event.

I don't believe people are running DM due to the fact that gl sets are more cheap now then they used to be when they were released last year. That's total cap.

IMHO i see shady a** forum accounts selling and buying stuff, and 2 hours later you just an update from OP how much they sold their item. And that's how you set a price for an item.

I wish we could link forum offers with our game assets, if you offer 200m, you must have 200m in game (for 24hours)