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Avta
11-29-2021, 05:20 AM
I think it would be cool if STS added the old weapons to the loot table of bosses or elite gold chests just like they have done before...

We have few arcanes, and mythics that drop from chests still, and a few from bosses.

BB Hooks, Maul, Kershal, as well mythic armor, and helm drops from the elite gold chests from their respective maps...

It's time to add the more weapons from their respective expansion to the elite gold chests/bosses...

Dragon Hunter Weapons in Elite Gold Dragon chests...

Glintstone weapons in Elite Gold Rengol Chests

Immortal weapons in Elite Gold Heretic chests.... and so on...

I don't see this having any cons to STS, and this will help increase activity in old maps. These weapons aren't available in locks, so instead of just being forgotten, it'll be cool to have them lootable again.

Sincerely,
~Avta~

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kiddlefrog
11-29-2021, 06:31 AM
-1

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Terracraft
11-29-2021, 06:40 AM
+add more rare,epic,legendary or mythic eggs drop from arlor campaign boss!

Avta
11-29-2021, 07:04 AM
-1

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Inozuke
11-29-2021, 07:11 AM
+1 I say it on my own as hardcore, it is very difficult to get an arcane one in that mode and since these weapons have nothing interesting it would be worth it if there were elite gold chests on their respective map (I know many would cry because the immortal is a vanity that occupies the weapon but the name could be edited so that it is not the same as such)

Avta
11-29-2021, 07:14 AM
+1 I say it on my own as hardcore, it is very difficult to get an arcane one in that mode and since these weapons have nothing interesting it would be worth it if there were elite gold chests on their respective map (I know many would cry because the immortal is a vanity that occupies the weapon but the name could be edited so that it is not the same as such)There's literally no reason to cry because the drop rate would be as low as maul/hooks/kershal

So this change will introduce only a little more weapons to the game...

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Oawaoebi
11-29-2021, 08:00 AM
Nothing to say against. As Long as the drop rate of those items is as low as Needham hooks and maul.


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dualray
11-29-2021, 08:13 AM
-1
I would rather sts puts these time in finning new arcanes


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Avta
11-29-2021, 08:33 AM
-1
I would rather sts puts these time in finning new arcanes


Sent from my iPhone using TapatalkAdding items to drop tables doesn't take much time :D

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Oakmaiden
11-29-2021, 08:54 AM
Anything to make running ALL maps interesting. Also don’t give a crap if that ruins some useless hoard of these items. Better for the masses to enjoy the content than a few cached coin counters drooling over their hoard. I was thinking since events are more active than daily content, map specific mini events could add needed interest and help populate ALL maps.
Gonna jump over to suggestions and ruminate over this...

Irg
11-29-2021, 09:52 AM
Whats the difference between this and re releasing collectables then?

Avta
11-29-2021, 10:03 AM
Whats the difference between this and re releasing collectables then?These are not collectibles :D, and some of the weapons are still relevant to the end game.

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Oakmaiden
11-29-2021, 10:03 AM
Leaderboard stuff is untradable so yeah.

Irg
11-29-2021, 10:08 AM
These are not collectibles :D, and some of the weapons are still relevant to the end game.

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Relevant to the endgame or not, besides less people collects them, they are essentially the same

Irg
11-29-2021, 10:20 AM
Let me share my POV on this suggestion
Lets start with dragon hunter and glint weapons
How much are they now? Dragon hunter around 3m,
glintstone weapon basically garbage cant even sell for 1m
(except for aegis, but most people buy it because it was op)

What droprate will make sense for something that worth
that price? 1 in 100? Well the market is gona overflow with those
and price crash down to a point where its not worth the time
1 in 100000? Will you run a map 100000 time to get something that
worth 3m? I doubt

So those changes are basically useless

Alright lets look at the big boy, the immortal corruption weapons
What make then so sweet? Rareity, and the fact that they aren't
lootable anymore. So if we abruptly add it to the loot table, the price
will crash down making them 1/10 of the worth. Its just how it works

Whos going to pay for the loss of people who have the vanity?
Whos going to pay for the loss of people who paied extra for
the uncrafted arcane version as a collection?
Not you, not sts, nobody. Immo weapon will just be another pile
of overused garbage in auction.
And when it becomes that common, lets see if you still
think its worth having

Avta
11-29-2021, 10:25 AM
Let me share my POV on this suggestion
Lets start with dragon hunter and glint weapons
How much are they now? Dragon hunter around 3m,
glintstone weapon basically garbage cant even sell for 1m
(except for aegis, but most people buy it because it was op)

What droprate will make sense for something that worth
that price? 1 in 100? Well the market is gona overflow with those
and price crash down to a point where its not worth the time
1 in 100000? Will you run a map 100000 time to get something that
worth 3m? I doubt

So those changes are basically useless

Alright lets look at the big boy, the immortal corruption weapons
What make then so sweet? Rareity, and the fact that they aren't
lootable anymore. So if we abruptly add it to the loot table, the price
will crash down making them 1/10 of the worth. Its just how it works

Whos going to pay for the loss of people who have the vanity?
Whos going to pay for the loss of people who paied extra for
the uncrafted arcane version as a collection?
Not you, not sts, nobody. Immo weapon will just be another pile
of overused garbage in auction.
And when it becomes that common, lets see if you still
think its worth havingNo one forced you to keep those weapons with you ;)

And STS never branded them as collectible :D

Besides, I am saying the drop rate to be as low as kershal, bb hooks, maul. A bit higher would be better tho.

Again, from what u are saying, these items are like investment, and not every investments give positive returns

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Irg
11-29-2021, 10:27 AM
No one forced you to keep those weapons with you ;)

And STS never branded them as collectible :D

Besides, I am saying the drop rate to be as low as kershal, bb hooks, maul. A bit higher would be better tho.

Again, from what u are saying, these items are like investment, and not every investments give positive returns

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Try answering other points that I made, they aren't collectable to you
simply because you don't have it. Many would argue otherwise.
I don't see a "hey i am a collectable" tag on anything in this game.
Players, and the nature of each item determines what is and whats not

Also it will be very nice for you to read over my post again.
You should notice that I didn't ask what rarity they should be.
I was saying that no matter what rarity you put it will be pointless,
that is actually one if my central message
I took my time read over your post, I hope you can respect mine
as much as I did to yours

Mythocrisis
11-29-2021, 11:02 AM
Let me share my POV on this suggestion
Lets start with dragon hunter and glint weapons
How much are they now? Dragon hunter around 3m,
glintstone weapon basically garbage cant even sell for 1m
(except for aegis, but most people buy it because it was op)

What droprate will make sense for something that worth
that price? 1 in 100? Well the market is gona overflow with those
and price crash down to a point where its not worth the time
1 in 100000? Will you run a map 100000 time to get something that
worth 3m? I doubt

So those changes are basically useless

Alright lets look at the big boy, the immortal corruption weapons
What make then so sweet? Rareity, and the fact that they aren't
lootable anymore. So if we abruptly add it to the loot table, the price
will crash down making them 1/10 of the worth. Its just how it works

Whos going to pay for the loss of people who have the vanity?
Whos going to pay for the loss of people who paied extra for
the uncrafted arcane version as a collection?
Not you, not sts, nobody. Immo weapon will just be another pile
of overused garbage in auction.
And when it becomes that common, lets see if you still
think its worth having

This is true.
Everyone wants THE item because they are clouded by its rarity and the clout it entails.

The fact proven here is , that specified item dosent even have to look that good.
People just want that Presteiged rarity on that item.

If that's compromised, even if it looks really top tier good, no one would bother.
Happened countless times with recoloured equipment many a time. Ex: jack /golem /banners/recoloured 36 arcanes.

That too nostalgia holds key on some old weapons and not only the drop rates to spike the price high like the kershal , ollerus.

It would be a nice addition to be able to loot at 1/2000 chance from a hard boss. That would give a drive to play the map.
Only gold farming players makes the game very monotonous.

Camelot
11-29-2021, 11:34 AM
This is true.
Everyone wants THE item because they are clouded by its rarity and the clout it entails.

The fact proven here is , that specified item dosent even have to look that good.
People just want that Presteiged rarity on that item.

If that's compromised, even if it looks really top tier good, no one would bother.
Happened countless times with recoloured equipment many a time. Ex: jack /golem /banners/recoloured 36 arcanes.

That too nostalgia holds key on some old weapons and not only the drop rates to spike the price high like the kershal , ollerus.

It would be a nice addition to be able to loot at 1/2000 chance from a hard boss. That would give a drive to play the map.
Only gold farming players makes the game very monotonous.Leave alone gold farmers. If you dont like farming gold just do other things

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leohate123
11-29-2021, 12:52 PM
+1 to this to add more farming places other than gold farming. but lower the drop rate of immortals because they are rare nowadays.

dualray
11-29-2021, 01:12 PM
Instead of old weapons and old vanities, simply just add new vanities and reuse the old elite maps for some other new drops.

I hate to say that but something like kershal or maul but different series would just satisfy these asking


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Mythocrisis
11-29-2021, 01:29 PM
Leave alone gold farmers. If you dont like farming gold just do other things

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That's the point I'm trying to make.
There's nothing else gameplay wise other than gold farming...

That's exactly what the team wanted to address and quote change...

And funny that you said it.. Calm down.
As if our forum posts about gold farming or anything on the matter is going to adversely affect the game.

Camelot
11-29-2021, 01:46 PM
I reacted like that bcs gold farming allready bleeding bcs of evg nerfed more changes in gold loot will kill my game and many other players too. I was building gl set by years and now i wont loose all i was working for.. :( I just please do not make more changes in gold loot farming.. Mayby its boring for someone but not for me.. In the other cases ofc i agree. Ty

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Oakmaiden
11-29-2021, 02:03 PM
Check out my Elite Maps thread in suggestions, add any additional thoughts..

Darkrai
11-29-2021, 05:23 PM
Hey now! Cant have meaningful drops in a mmo game! Hold on...

Xyv.io
11-29-2021, 10:08 PM
+1, kids mad they've hoarded too many immortal vanity weapons, they were not supposed to be this high in price.

Stephencobear
11-29-2021, 11:55 PM
Hey now! Cant have meaningful drops in a mmo game! Hold on...

For a looooong time in pl, all good loot was farmable

Hey sts (I still wanna say “stg”) get back to your roots plox

Nexior
11-30-2021, 01:00 AM
-1 first at all they need rework gold loot , gold lost value . Also i like immo rarity like it is now. Second non need dragon staff or other wep to run decent maps bcs legendary wep is way better for beginners .

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Xuds
11-30-2021, 01:12 AM
What is the reason of bringing these back in the firsr place? No i dont own any

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Avta
11-30-2021, 01:39 AM
What is the reason of bringing these back in the firsr place? No i dont own any

Sent from my LM-K500 using TapatalkThe same reason Kershal, Maul, and BB Hooks are in the chests still

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Camelot
11-30-2021, 08:11 AM
-1 first at all they need rework gold loot , gold lost value . Also i like immo rarity like it is now. Second non need dragon staff or other wep to run decent maps bcs legendary wep is way better for beginners .

Wysłane z mojego ASUS_I005DA przy użyciu TapatalkaFor whom gl lost value? There is more gold in game but the prices of items are much higher so at last nothing changed. And please leave alone the topic about gold loot bcs its becomming annoying. For many players more interferencne in gold loot means ' quite game' You seems like you dont care about gold farmers who spending years to make his sets to run gold loot maps. Its not only my opinion. Im the voice of all these players here

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Uereazagr
11-30-2021, 02:30 PM
AMAZING idea.

Cheackezig
11-30-2021, 03:37 PM
Tbf most of those weapons can drop from bosses from maps already. I do think they should add immortal weapons though, +1

Nexior
11-30-2021, 05:48 PM
For whom gl lost value? There is more gold in game but the prices of items are much higher so at last nothing changed. And please leave alone the topic about gold loot bcs its becomming annoying. For many players more interferencne in gold loot means ' quite game' You seems like you dont care about gold farmers who spending years to make his sets to run gold loot maps. Its not only my opinion. Im the voice of all these players here

Wysłane z mojego RMX2193 przy użyciu TapatalkaWhat u mean nothing change ? With same gl i must run 1month esg to afford arcane item . Now after 10hours on deep 25m+ .

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Camelot
11-30-2021, 06:01 PM
What u mean nothing change ? With same gl i must run 1month esg to afford arcane item . Now after 10hours on deep 25m+ .

Wysłane z mojego ASUS_I005DA przy użyciu TapatalkaYou talked about gold value and i answered. Btw when you was farming esg arcane weapon was like few millions now for good item you have to pay 10x more so at last we earning more but we spending more too. And go back on earth bcs its impossible to earn 25m in 10 hours dm. Im using op set and i never been even close to get 25m in 10 hours :) Mayby you have 1200 gold loot idk but reality is more brutal than you suppose..

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Greazemk
12-01-2021, 06:14 AM
+ 1 for this idea, I really like bringing back the old farming style concept on this one. Though the main question still remains, what's the point of farming these if they're useless or irrelevant?

Somehow those people who answered these questions didn't make anysense I would also like a proper answer on why adding this is somehow good or somewhat not.

So, what am thinking is, if the chance of looting those arcane weapons is as low as Kershal, BB hooks, & Maul why would the price of it will crash down? Well, some said farming for the chests that contains those Arcane Weapons mentioned above is rather waste of time, useless, or irrelevant, so how is the rarity of those items going to affect their respective prices if their rarity is as close as those big 3. And also the lack of people grinding for those particular chests as its "waste of time" and takes a lot more time to farm them and to loot them by chance is a lot tougher rather than farming Elite Gold Chests of the big 3, which.. makes it a lot harder for people to grind those. which means it may affect the price, just maybe? I don't know the exact quantity of Immo Vanities or weapon version of them. Maybe, just maybe the price will stay the same. or will go even higher due to demand knowing that we have a way to loot those Weapons again. people would want to get their hands on Immo Vanities.

Onawaoka
12-01-2021, 06:34 AM
Let me share my POV on this suggestion
Lets start with dragon hunter and glint weapons
How much are they now? Dragon hunter around 3m,
glintstone weapon basically garbage cant even sell for 1m
(except for aegis, but most people buy it because it was op)

What droprate will make sense for something that worth
that price? 1 in 100? Well the market is gona overflow with those
and price crash down to a point where its not worth the time
1 in 100000? Will you run a map 100000 time to get something that
worth 3m? I doubt

So those changes are basically useless

Alright lets look at the big boy, the immortal corruption weapons
What make then so sweet? Rareity, and the fact that they aren't
lootable anymore. So if we abruptly add it to the loot table, the price
will crash down making them 1/10 of the worth. Its just how it works

Whos going to pay for the loss of people who have the vanity?
Whos going to pay for the loss of people who paied extra for
the uncrafted arcane version as a collection?
Not you, not sts, nobody. Immo weapon will just be another pile
of overused garbage in auction.
And when it becomes that common, lets see if you still
think its worth having

Well shoot you just stated the whole issue of expansion on all those who lost millions on glint aegis and on other stuff lol


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Mythocrisis
12-01-2021, 11:21 AM
Well shoot you just stated the whole issue of expansion on all those who lost millions on glint aegis and on other stuff lol


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That can't be forgotten..

Alome
12-02-2021, 07:13 AM
-1 (for immortal weaps) ---> because they are so expensive rn so a lot of people will be pissed. Plus they are still lootable on crates...which cost 500k each on cs...ironically. Well if they have the same drop rate as kersh bb maul then... +1

Alkif
12-03-2021, 04:18 AM
+1, it would spice up 1000 runs in those maps.

gobbels
12-03-2021, 04:40 AM
Anyways those low lvl weps, kinda not needed for anything. Only cool looking vanity that cost more than fresh myth weps.