Aura visuals

[asommers]

Just letting you know we hear your complaints about rendering aura visuals and we have a solution that we're working on.

We do realize auras have been getting larger and more opaque and that just leads to issues with being able to see what's going on in the game.

I know people want to turn them off for either being too obstructive, causing performance issues, or just not liking them. Without getting to the why or perceived inconsistencies, we will not be turning them off, but we will be changing how they are displayed.

We have to touch every player aura, pet auea, proc effect, set effect and just about anything else that renders on the ground, so this may take some time to get through everything.

I'm open to any constructive feedback.

-ALS

PS. If you want to know the details, we're going to be adding additional render layers for when to draw portions of effects. We will be rendering anything opaque first, then shadows, then ground portions of the auras that do not impact gameplay, then monster tell visuals, then procs, and then anything else that has transparency. After this change, all procs will render on top of tells and all tells will render on top of auras.

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[Stormydragon]

+1 Sounds good. Can we get an option to turn our equipment/set aura effects (like speed set, love sets...) on ourselves on and off? This would lead to better controlling of what you want to show. Someone who's best equip is endless love set for example, is forced to wear it wether he likes or hates the effect...

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[Encryptions]

The dark red zone in which the brood dragon has is good imo, its super dark so everyone can see it easily. I am talking about the attacks he does that causes him to be unable to fly until the attack animations are over.

[asommers]

+1 Sounds good. Can we get an option to turn our equipment/set aura effects (like speed set, love sets...) on ourselves on and off? This would lead to better controlling of what you want to show. Someone who's best equip is endless love set for example, is forced to wear it wether he likes or hates the effect...

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Yes, I can add options to turn off your effects on other clients.

-ALS

[asommers]

The dark red zone in which the brood dragon has is good imo, its super dark so everyone can see it easily. I am talking about the attacks he does that causes him to be unable to fly until the attack animations are over.

The red tell zone for Drauger is something I've recently added and this style of rendering tells will eventually replace all monster tells in the game.

-ALS

[Stormydragon]

Yes, I can add options to turn off your effects on other clients.

-ALSNice thanks! By the way i love the design of Drauger and his Tail Attack, feels more like fighting a dragon!

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[Stephencobear]

Ty for doing something but wanted to mention that the objection isn’t only that auras cover up game play, it’s that the game is visually obnoxious to the point I want to play less

I mentioned that auras cover game play, & your answer was to make red zones even more garish adding to clutter

Each second in game is like looking at the jackpot effect of bad casino games

What is the difference between being able to turn off badges, titles, & names, & giving us the option to turn off auras?

If you think ppl will buy less then all you have to do is look at how ppl have always ran for badges
What is the logic?

[Player AL]

Hi, can you look into new mythic bow proc also please? (2nd part of proc, "sea blast") It feels like there are 9999 effects in one, that proc causing lags

[exclusion]

nice… opaque would be nice to lessen eye sore from auras

[Megatr0n]

add para to inspect page plz


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[Oakmaiden]

Ty for the update, it’s refreshing to know what is being worked on. I will work on my patience.. :)

[Stormydragon]

Ty for doing something but wanted to mention that the objection isn’t only that auras cover up game play, it’s that the game is visually obnoxious to the point I want to play less

I mentioned that auras cover game play, & your answer was to make red zones even more garish adding to clutter

Each second in game is like looking at the jackpot effect of bad casino games

What is the difference between being able to turn off badges, titles, & names, & giving us the option to turn off auras?

If you think ppl will buy less then all you have to do is look at how ppl have always ran for badges
What is the logic?-1 why would you wear or buy new cosmetic items when no one sees what you wear anyways...

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[Bluehazee]

-1 why would you wear or buy new cosmetic items when no one sees what you wear anyways...

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People grind different lb, in vast majority of cases investing money, just to show off badges, titles, and even pvp rank (pvp rank only shows inspecting toon, but still) . We already have the option to hide these "rewards", so what is the problem with auras? In my case, i find most of auras pretty bad for gameplay, since they hide certain enemy attacks, warnings, etc that i like to see. Not even talking about how it causes lag, which is also important.

Maybe the main problem is how people care about what others think of them. Before social media era, it was about smiles and social approval in close distance....now is all about "likes", "friend requests" or anything like that. It has always been like this, only lately becomes even more dominant because our number of daily decissions has skyrocketed due to immediate of internet. According to several studies, we do around 35k decissions everyday in internet era, much more than before.

Keeping in mind that humans are social beings through thousands of years of evolution patterns (with all the social considerations that this implies), it might be time to educate people on how to grow up not focusing on other's opinions.

Back on topic, there is no justification to keep auras as a "must see" while similar stuff have option to 240576be hidden

[Analytical]

People grind different lb, in vast majority of cases investing money, just to show off badges, titles, and even pvp rank (pvp rank only shows inspecting toon, but still) . We already have the option to hide these "rewards", so what is the problem with auras? In my case, i find most of auras pretty bad for gameplay, since they hide certain enemy attacks, warnings, etc that i like to see. Not even talking about how it causes lag, which is also important.

Maybe the main problem is how people care about what others think of them. Before social media era, it was about smiles and social approval in close distance....now is all about "likes", "friend requests" or anything like that. It has always been like this, only lately becomes even more dominant because our number of daily decissions has skyrocketed due to immediate of internet. According to several studies, we do around 35k decissions everyday in internet era, much more than before.

Keeping in mind that humans are social beings due to thousands of years of evolution patterns (with all the social considerations that this implies), it might be time to educate people on how to grow up not focusing on other's opinions.

Back on topic, there is no justification to keep auras as a "must see" while similar stuff have option to 240576be hidden

Following this logic I would add to suggest the option to disable display for vanity, gears, basically everything we see in game must have the option to be disabled for whatever reasons (the said items are impeding gameplay, or hating a specific outfit worn by others, or just want to be left alone, or hate seeing op people with op stats or expensive vanities, or simply wanna experience AL in a different light etc etc)

[Megatr0n]

i love all visuals , have an option to disable auras during entering a dungeon . dont disable in towne . if you are a LB runner i can see how the extra bit of lag could affect times in your runs . but if you aint a LB runner , then you are just complaining because you have nothing better to do with yourself


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[Bluehazee]

Following this logic I would add to suggest the option to disable display for vanity, gears, basically everything we see in game must have the option to be disabled for whatever reasons (the said items are impeding gameplay, or hating a specific outfit worn by others, or just want to be left alone, or hate seeing op people with op stats or expensive vanities, or simply wanna experience AL in a different light etc etc)

Yes, but the difference is that normal vanities, gears, pets, stats, etc don't affect my gameplay. I don't care about the gold you (or others) spent on game. Its pixels gold...

[PatD]

For those who want to hide aura, i think you should see it the same as IRL;

When a colleague, a neighbor, a brother-in-law etc buy a Ferrari or a Rolex it is because they want everyone to see it, you don't have any option to hide it, people have done this since ages, it is simply part of social standing.

As for the ability to hide badge etc, i think it is only to facilitate group screenshot etc

[Megatr0n]

For those who want to hide aura, i think you should see it the same as IRL;

When a colleague, a neighbor, a brother-in-law etc buy a Ferrari or a Rolex it is because they want everyone to see it, you don't have any option to hide it, people have done this since ages, it is simply part of social standing.

As for the ability to hide badge etc, i think it is only to facilitate group screenshot etc

amen , if you wanna just look like a towne of naked morons go to a nude beach XD

oh nuu then they will start to complain about the scenery and sand on the beach in paradise is too visually lagging there slow internet


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[Bluehazee]

For those who want to hide aura, i think you should see it the same as IRL;

When a colleague, a neighbor, a brother-in-law etc buy a Ferrari or a Rolex it is because they want everyone to see it, you don't have any option to hide it, people have done this since ages, it is simply part of social standing.

As for the ability to hide badge etc, i think it is only to facilitate group screenshot etc

Your Rolex or your Ferrari doesn't affect me. Its not a valid comparison. To make it valid, lets say you drive your Ferrari with high beams on....then we can talk

[Stephencobear]

For those who want to hide aura, i think you should see it the same as IRL;

When a colleague, a neighbor, a brother-in-law etc buy a Ferrari or a Rolex it is because they want everyone to see it, you don't have any option to hide it, people have done this since ages, it is simply part of social standing.

As for the ability to hide badge etc, i think it is only to facilitate group screenshot etc

Irl I can hide what I want by not looking at it


Again -
What is the difference between allowing us to turn off badges names and titles
And allowing me to turn off auras on my screen!?!?

[Stephencobear]

-1 why would you wear or buy new cosmetic items when no one sees what you wear anyways...

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You wear your aura cuz you are looking at yourself on your screen n like it

You don’t know what I’m seeing on my screen and should not care what I see or what I think about you

[Analytical]

Yes, but the difference is that normal vanities, gears, pets, stats, etc don't affect my gameplay. I don't care about the gold you (or others) spent on game. Its pixels gold...

Affecting gameplay is pretty subjective.

In the context of running pve map, on top of aura blocking visual, it could also mean someone I put on ignore list is appearing on my map and I want the option for example to make him disappear from my screen as I'm significantly distressed by it. And under the same condition, the aura visuals could actually be enjoyed by other players who don't see it as impeding their gameplay but more like adding colors to the boring map they run everyday once they get good at playing dm for example, they don't care if you are blocking them visually they still can time their skills properly or move around until they get to see what's happening.

Further discussion is as follows in my reply to Stephen:


Irl I can hide what I want by not looking at it

Again -
What is the difference between allowing us to turn off badges names and titles
And allowing me to turn off auras on my screen!?!?

Good idea, maybe apply that to the aura you want to see so badly so it doesn't affect your gameplay? [emoji14]

Of course we can avoid seeing anything we don't like by keeping a distance the discussion is only valid for close proximity where its within the scope of our sight and we can't avoid it like in the case of aura right beside us whether it's too bright or rotating shhet visually blocking us.

Back to the topic, I disagree with disabling aura visuals not because I'm okay with it blocking me, nor am I disregarding the fact that it actually hinders gameplay, rather it's because I think there are other ways to navigate around it without the endless discussion on who has the final say on who is seeing what I'm displaying.

Isn't the main problem blocking our gameplay?

So assomer and sts team
-made it clearer for people to see when boss attacks by using dark and bolded color
-clear RED proc visuals like "Marked", "Drown" etc

They want to solve the problem without possibly dissatisfying a large portion of players who enjoy cool visuals, even while playing in pve maps.

As long as the gameplay isn't blocked, the option to disable visuals immediately becomes a preference instead of a necessity.

[Megatr0n]

Good idea, maybe apply that to the aura you want to see so badly so it doesn't affect your gameplay? :P

Of course we can avoid seeing anything we don't like by keeping a distance the discussion is only valid for close proximity where its within the scope of our sight and we can't avoid it like in the case of aura right beside us whether it's too bright or rotating shhet visually blocking us.

Back to the topic, I disagree with disabling aura visuals not because I'm okay with it blocking me, nor am I disregarding the fact that it actually hinders gameplay, rather it's because I think there are other ways to navigate around it without the endless discussion on who has the final say on who is seeing what I'm displaying.

Isn't the main problem blocking our gameplay?

So assomer and sts team
-made it clearer for people to see when boss attacks by using dark and bolded color
-clear RED proc visuals like "Marked", "Drown" etc

They want to solve the problem without possibly dissatisfying a large portion of payers who enjoy cool visuals, even while playing in pve maps.

As long as the gameplay isn't blocked, the option to disable visuals immediately becomes a preference instead of a necessity.

agreed , if they start disabling an aura because a few cry babies who didnt get the LB auras dont wanna cry more when they see people in towne with it . they can just leave towne or go sit in there little starter houses and stare at there non visualised non location non affecting there little 3gb ram data speed mc donalds wifi little toons


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[Bluehazee]

agreed , if they start disabling an aura because a few cry babies who didnt get the LB auras dont wanna cry more when they see people in towne with it . they can just leave towne or go sit in there little starter houses and stare at there non visualised non location non affecting there little 3gb ram data speed mc donalds wifi little toons


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I've done many lb, you can visit my tavern (its open, and same ign as forum name) and check it. I even have some lb banners that i dont display at home. Anyway, i see that your point still goes around about what others think about you..pretty sad imho.
In case you didn't get it yet, auras affect my gameplay IN MAPS. I don't really care about people like you, who only live to show off fake pixels. Not gonna comment what i think about such people, i made my point clear before

[PatD]

Then only solution i can see is that anti-aura people create a new guild name.... Anti-Aura guild!

only rule is "No Aura allowed" :D

This way all the people from this guild can run in party with people who don't wear aura!!

[Megatr0n]

Then only solution i can see is that anti-aura people create a new guild name.... Anti-Aura guild!

only rule is "No Aura allowed" :D

This way all the people from this guild can run in party with people who don't wear aura!!

hahah


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[Bluehazee]

Then only solution i can see is that anti-aura people create a new guild name.... Anti-Aura guild!

only rule is "No Aura allowed" :D

This way all the people from this guild can run in party with people who don't wear aura!!

Nobody is talking about hide your own aura on your screen. So...are you saying that your only goal to wear an aura is to look nice on other' people eyes?
Following your example, we could suggest a guild for people who only play to look nice for others....even being ridiculous.
I don't understand how it will affect you that i can hide your aura on my screen. Not in yours, only in mine.

I was expecting more mature discussion about this, but i guess i was too optimistic

[Stephencobear]

Good idea, maybe apply that to the aura you want to see so badly so it doesn't affect your gameplay?
- An

I’m going to assume you mean - any aura I don’t wanna see

Because I can’t play a game and not look at it


Not gonna reply to the person who resorted to presumptive insults rather than a logical response

[PatD]

Nobody is talking about hide your own aura on your screen. So...are you saying that your only goal to wear an aura is to look nice on other' people eyes?
Following your example, we could suggest a guild for people who only play to look nice for others....even being ridiculous.
I don't understand how it will affect you that i can hide your aura on my screen. Not in yours, only in mine.

I was expecting more mature discussion about this, but i guess i was too optimistic

Please i don’t want arguing, i am just saying why they will never give option to hide aura, the reason i gave (about social standing etc) is why you will never get what you want, and seing how the nice aura are selling i’m sure they will never put this option, simply cuz when people buy a Ferrari they want to show it, this is not my personal opinion, i’m just seing this as a fact and expose it here as the only explanation i can think of, so please no hard feeling ;)

[PatD]

Good idea, maybe apply that to the aura you want to see so badly so it doesn't affect your gameplay?
- An

I’m going to assume you mean - any aura I don’t wanna see

Because I can’t play a game and not look at it


Not gonna reply to the person who resorted to presumptive insults rather than a logical response

If you have feel offensed i am very sorry my friend, this was the last thing i want, im just try to give a logical explanation of why they will not add option to hide aura, i would never insult you my friend! :)

[Switchback]

Have you considered a subscription service for the players? I would pay ya each month to be able to turn off auras..

[Stephencobear]

If you have feel offensed i am very sorry my friend, this was the last thing i want, im just try to give a logical explanation of why they will not add option to hide aura, i would never insult you my friend! :)

We’re good, I know you well enough to know you aren’t disrespectful even if we disagree my friend

I’ll take your farrari metaphor & run w it

Say guy w “nice” car wants to be viewed as flashy or rich
Some ppl like me don’t see ppl w that car as flashy or rich
In fact I usually see that person in a bad way which is the opposite of what they want
Why? I usually think that person is insecure and flaunts when they could display the enviable virtue of humility & self security

That’s what I mean when I say no one needs to care how I see them, that sounds insecure



Have you considered a subscription service for the players? I would pay ya each month to be able to turn off auras..

YES anything to get rid of game impeding seizure inducing technicolor vomit


When zhulong was released, sts reduced his aura for a reason, now all players can have 2 or 3 auras overlapping and that’s ok?
Makes no sense

So again, because no one can offer a logical response I’ll repeat myself until I hear a logical response

*what is the difference between allowing us to turn off badges names and titles, but not simply allow players to turn off auras on their own screen?*

Most ppl like them and won’t do this, so ppl who are concerned about what I see on my screen should know most ppl are seeing exactly what aura lovers want them to see, so why be bothered by a minority who DONT AFFECT THEM

Most responses against the turn off option are hyperbole, straw man, or insults

[Megatr0n]

We’re good, I know you well enough to know you aren’t disrespectful even if we disagree my friend

I’ll take your farrari metaphor & run w it

Say guy w “nice” car wants to be viewed as flashy or rich
Some ppl like me don’t see ppl w that car as flashy or rich
In fact I usually see that person in a bad way which is the opposite of what they want
Why? I usually think that person is insecure and flaunts when they could display the enviable virtue of humility & self security

That’s what I mean when I say no one needs to care how I see them, that sounds insecure




YES anything to get rid of game impeding seizure inducing technicolor vomit


When zhulong was released, sts reduced his aura for a reason, now all players can have 2 or 3 auras overlapping and that’s ok?
Makes no sense

So again, because no one can offer a logical response I’ll repeat myself until I hear a logical response

*what is the difference between allowing us to turn off badges names and titles, but not simply allow players to turn off auras on their own screen?*

Most ppl like them and won’t do this, so ppl who are concerned about what I see on my screen should know most ppl are seeing exactly what aura lovers want them to see, so why be bothered by a minority who DONT AFFECT THEM

Most responses against the turn off option are hyperbole, straw man, or insults

if you wanna stare at naked toons this aint the game for you bruh


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[Stephencobear]

if you wanna stare at naked toons this aint the game for you bruh


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No kink shaming
X’D

[Stormydragon]

Have you considered a subscription service for the players? I would pay ya each month to be able to turn off auras..Hmm i would pay for the opposite...

I have to agree with Analytical in all parts. It's natural social standing nowadays. Not that I like it, but it's influences many other things. Now won't the Rolex or Ferrari Market crash down if you don't have any people anymore who want them for showing them off? The same would happen to the most vanities, so it is indeed affecting gameplay. And in irl some people like artists give all their work to show something... It's the same with many players who work on their ingame outfit since long.

-1 for crashing auction house and dissappointing most of the people. I understand the problem but there must be another way.

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[Stephencobear]

Hmm i would pay for the opposite...

I have to agree with Analytical in all parts. It's natural social standing nowadays. Not that I like it, but it's influences many other things. Now won't the Rolex or Ferrari Market crash down if you don't have any people anymore who want them for showing them off? The same would happen to the most vanities, so it is indeed affecting gameplay. And in irl some people like artists give all their work to show something... It's the same with many players who work on their ingame outfit since long.

-1 for crashing auction house and dissappointing most of the people. I understand the problem but there must be another way.

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Saying the market will crash is the same as saying:
No one will run an event for a title because I might have that option turned off
No one will compete for a badge because I maybe have that turned off

Nonsense

[Stormydragon]

I think the only reason of turning badges and titles off is for things like screenshots and videos... You don't need an option to turn of aura there, you just can say everyone to unequip vanities for making the picture.

By the way one thing that would be possible is turning auras off from your party as pt leader maybe, so you can decide to run maps without them. This would be good for lb players.

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[Switchback]

Hmm i would pay for the opposite...

I have to agree with Analytical in all parts. It's natural social standing nowadays. Not that I like it, but it's influences many other things. Now won't the Rolex or Ferrari Market crash down if you don't have any people anymore who want them for showing them off? The same would happen to the most vanities, so it is indeed affecting gameplay. And in irl some people like artists give all their work to show something... It's the same with many players who work on their ingame outfit since long.

-1 for crashing auction house and dissappointing most of the people. I understand the problem but there must be another way.

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Me paying StS to be able to turn off auras would be the same in your scenario as me Paying your examples(Rolex, Ferrari) money to not look at their product. I don't use auras anyways so they don't make money off me regardless. It would be free money from me. Im sure the players that are in my shoes are a very small portion of the game, but its a way for me to support the game while getting something out of my money. I understand the other side of the talks, was just an idea.

[Oakmaiden]

Saying the market will crash is the same as saying:
No one will run an event for a title because I might have that option turned off
No one will compete for a badge because I maybe have that turned off

Nonsense

Ikr, I have all broadcasts turned off. I assume ppl are still getting married, guilds battling and loots dropping.
Also off for titles n badges, any other look at me. I dress solely for my pleasure. I don’t care to impress strangers online.
In rl, I’m flashy af, buy still to please myself.. :p

[THE GOLDEN KING]

You people are overthinking it, an option to hide “Vanity Wisps” from other players is all that is needed.

For those who are defending the idea of not allowing an option to turn off “Vanity Wisps” what’s the difference from hiding helmet/player name/title.

I’m not sure about you but I wear my auras so my own character could look good, I don’t care for who’s around me.

In simpler terms, add the option to turn “Player Wisp on/off” if you like auras and or like to see others wearing different ones, you keep it on. If you don’t like auras, simple use the “Turn Off” option and you’re done.


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[Analytical]

You people are overthinking it, an option to hide “Vanity Wisps” from other players is all that is needed.

For those who are defending the idea of not allowing an option to turn off “Vanity Wisps” what’s the difference from hiding helmet/player name/title.

I’m not sure about you but I wear my auras so my own character could look good, I don’t care for who’s around me.

In simpler terms, add the option to turn “Player Wisp on/off” if you like auras and or like to see others wearing different ones, you keep it on. If you don’t like auras, simple use the “Turn Off” option and you’re done.


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Thank you for the inspiration.

Here's a checklist, albeit not exhaustive:
(feel free to add)

✅Player Name
✅Title
✅Badge
✅Seasonal rank/Pvp Rank
✅Gears(Helm) ​
✅Vanities (Helm, Armor)
✅Player buff
✅Pets name
Gears(Armor, Belt, Ring, Amulet, Artifact)
Vanities (Weapon, Banner, Backpack, Aura)
Player stats
Pets display
Map names, Map level range, Map timer
Menu page
Avatar display
Boss/Mob hp display
Damage dealt display
Health regeneration display
Other people Proc display
Boss/mobs attacks display
"Ghost mode"
Guildhall furniture display

Alternatively, to make things even easier, here's the ultimate button to disable all:

"Uninstall button"

[THE GOLDEN KING]

Thank you for the inspiration.

Here's a checklist, albeit not exhaustive:
(feel free to add)

[emoji736]Player Name
[emoji736]Title
[emoji736]Badge
[emoji736]Seasonal rank/Pvp Rank
[emoji736]Gears(Helm) ​
[emoji736]Vanities (Helm, Armor)
[emoji736]Player buff
[emoji736]Pets name
Gears(Armor, Belt, Ring, Amulet, Artifact)
Vanities (Weapon, Banner, Backpack, Aura)
Player stats
Pets display
Map names, Map level range, Map timer
Menu page
Avatar display
Boss/Mob hp display
Damage dealt display
Health regeneration display
Other people Proc display
Boss/mobs attacks display
"Ghost mode"
Guildhall furniture display

Alternatively, to make things even easier, here's the ultimate button to disable all:

"Uninstall button"

You’re overthinking it, it’s just the wisp. Everything else has been fine since 2012 imo.


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[Analytical]

You’re overthinking it, it’s just the wisp. Everything else has been fine since 2012 imo.


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You guys are "overreacting" to the aura too, as boss attacks, procs etc are much clearer than they were before.

Aura impeding gameplay?

Nah its fine (:

[THE GOLDEN KING]

You guys are "overreacting" to the aura too, as boss attacks, procs etc are much clearer than they were before.

Aura impeding gameplay?

Nah its fine (:

The game won’t explode if they add the option to turn “Aura Wisps” off/on. If you must know, I don’t CARE if they add the “Off/On” option or not, this thread is to have some feedback about whether or not it’s a good idea to do so, hence the Thread Topic.

Proc visuals of any item or pet arcane ability, even boss attack damage visuals is another topic since they’re randomly timed and wisps are constant. I never condoned Proc Legends, that’s the fault of STS not mine. Being sarcastic on a feedback topic isn’t helping either.

This is just my own opinion, you’re welcome to agree or disagree. Frankly I don’t care for either, but since STS is asking for feedback I’d gladly support the idea of having the option of having “Vanity Wisp On/Off”.

Thanks in advance and happy holidays.


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[Stephencobear]

I think the only reason of turning badges and titles off is for things like screenshots and videos... You don't need an option to turn of aura there, you just can say everyone to unequip vanities for making the picture.

By the way one thing that would be possible is turning auras off from your party as pt leader maybe, so you can decide to run maps without them. This would be good for lb players.

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Aha
So it “would be good for lb players”
Why restrict something good for a few lb runners when that something good could be for ANYONE who wants it?
Lb runners, event runners, & all random pick up games should also get that good thing

[Stephencobear]

You guys are "overreacting" to the aura too, as boss attacks, procs etc are much clearer than they were before.

Aura impeding gameplay?

Nah its fine (:

You speak for yourself
Others disagree with you


How would having this option affect you negatively

[Analytical]

The game won’t explode if they add the option to turn “Aura Wisps” off/on. If you must know, I don’t CARE if they add the “Off/On” option or not, this thread is to have some feedback about whether or not it’s a good idea to do so, hence the Thread Topic.

Proc visuals of any item or pet arcane ability, even boss attack damage visuals is another topic since they’re randomly timed and wisps are constant. I never condoned Proc Legends, that’s the fault of STS not mine. Being sarcastic on a feedback topic isn’t helping either.

This is just my own opinion, you’re welcome to agree or disagree. Frankly I don’t care for either, but since STS is asking for feedback I’d gladly support the idea of having the option of having “Vanity Wisp On/Off”.

Thanks in advance and happy holidays.


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Happy 2022 too (:


The game won’t explode if they add the option to turn “Aura Wisps” off/on
Vice versa is also true (:


..... since they’re randomly timed and wisps are constant
Nice, this means aura is only occasionally impeding? So with the improvement on boss attacks/proc visuals and more to come, it is thus less of an issue of priority.

In short, my stand is simple too.

I don't disagree with adding the option ON/Off. However to be fair, if I support this option, I would have to agree for sts to add all of the above in the checklist as well, as I don't see why not too since there are all not a priority/necessity at the moment but more of a preference for more control or "cleaner gameplay".

[THE GOLDEN KING]

Happy 2022 too (:


Vice versa is also true (:


Nice, this means aura is only occasionally impeding? So with the improvement on boss attacks/proc visuals and more to come, it is thus less of an issue of priority.

In short, my stand is simple too.

I don't disagree with adding the option ON/Off. However to be fair, if I support this option, I would have to agree for sts to add all of the above in the checklist as well, as I don't see why not too since there are all not a priority/necessity at the moment but more of a preference for more control or "cleaner gameplay".

It’s not that deep… your point is if they do implement an “On/Off” option for “Vanity Wisps”, they should do so with the list you’ve shown above as-well.

That’s fine, I agree. If they do add all those options you mentioned, that would just be a bonus to what some players already want.

All in all, 90% of the AL population can agree with your statement but at the end of the day its Cinco’s game so he will unfortunately decide whether or not he wants to sadly.


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[Stephencobear]

I don't disagree with adding the option ON/Off. However to be fair, if I support this option, I would have to agree for sts to add all of the above in the checklist as well, as I don't see why not too since there are all not a priority/necessity at the moment but more of a preference for more control or "cleaner gameplay".

That’s kinda straw man to our issue which is only the option to turn off auras
You can start a new suggestion thread for all those other things

Glad you don’t disagreeing w us having the option

[Stormydragon]

Aha
So it “would be good for lb players”
Why restrict something good for a few lb runners when that something good could be for ANYONE who wants it?
Lb runners, event runners, & all random pick up games should also get that good thingWhat i wanted to say is, that it can be good, in small groups, where every1 agrees, like parties, however, overall that's not the case.

However, i'm tired of discussing, so i leave my +1 to everything Analytical said.

But i hope the dev team would bring up a poll on an important topic like that, so that the community could decide itself, before they rush in with their finall decisions.

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[Stephencobear]

What i wanted to say is, that it can be good, in small groups, where every1 agrees, like parties, however, overall that's not the case.

However, i'm tired of discussing, so i leave my +1 to everything Analytical said.

But i hope the dev team would bring up a poll on an important topic like that, so that the community could decide itself, before they rush in with their finall decisions.

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So it can be good for some groups but not others? HOW!?!?
How could it not be ok to have as an option?

How would it affect you negatively if I could turn off auras on my screen?

Btw if you wanna +1 everything they said then you are agreeing that it would be ok to have that option as they said

[Alghost]

So it can be good for some groups but not others? HOW!?!?
How could it not be ok to have as an option?

How would it affect you negatively if I could turn off auras on my screen?

Btw if you wanna +1 everything they said then you are agreeing that it would be ok to have that option as they said

Why are you arguing with him? He’s literally arguing with you for agreeing on the same thing you’re talking about. In other words he’s either a moron or an idiot.

But to the topic at hand +1 on having aura vanities on and off button. Also what analytical said, having all those options are practically useless but sure why not +1. Who knows maybe not knowing how much damage I’m doing to the boss will help in my gameplay.

[Stormydragon]

So it can be good for some groups but not others? HOW!?!?
How could it not be ok to have as an option?

How would it affect you negatively if I could turn off auras on my screen?

Btw if you wanna +1 everything they said then you are agreeing that it would be ok to have that option as they saidYes with all the other options too, the yes lol

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[Stormydragon]

Why are you arguing with him? He’s literally arguing with you for agreeing on the same thing you’re talking about. In other words he’s either a moron or an idiot.

But to the topic at hand +1 on having aura vanities on and off button. Also what analytical said, having all those options are practically useless but sure why not +1. Who knows maybe not knowing how much damage I’m doing to the boss will help in my gameplay.Now that's a funny guy tho

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[Stephencobear]

Why are you arguing with him?

Obsessed w logic, or lack thereof possibly ocd, might be my fault

[Analytical]

That’s fine, I agree. If they do add all those options you mentioned, that would just be a bonus to what some players already want.

All in all, 90% of the AL population can agree with your statement but at the end of the day its Cinco’s game so he will unfortunately decide whether or not he wants to sadly.




Glad you don't disagreeing w us having the option

To clarify, I don't disagree to have the option, but I sure don't support it as well.

Just before any drama comes in here, No, I'm definitely not trying to confuse anyone.
By not disagreeing what I mean is if dev implemented this without any poll or caring what others have said, I wouldn't make a thread crying about it.
By not supporting I mean to say if there were to be a poll on this, I would vote no.

So, if this interest you, read on.

(Warning: Long post ahead. I would be going constructively deep and wouldn't be so dismissive on this being a simple topic to discuss as from what I see, it actually involves many things on rights, gameplay, dev income etc so I would like to take all these into consideration hence, a deeper analysis/look into this)

I don't disagree the option of ON/OFF aura because
1. While the owner of aura has the right to wear the aura, they have no right to force anyone to look at them. People look at them willingly or most of the time because there are close to them and it enters their sight, conveniently making others look at what they are wearing. Hence I don't see the problem for people to decide not to see this aura by giving them the option.
2. Like Golden King said, in the end its up to cinco so it's no big deal to me if dev decided to really add this. While this would be great news to a handful of people who enjoy cleaner gameplay, of course, there will be some people who may be seriously upsetted if this option to turn off aura becomes available because they can't show off anymore unless someone allows them to.

I don't support the option of ON/Off Aura because
1. There are far more important things imo that dev should look at, given the limited time and resources and size of sts team, I would support suggestions that would significantly help the game like focusing on solving issues such as class balance, new gears, gold economy, new players experience just to name a few.

2. There may be a potential concern (Reason why dev may not want to add this option)

When owners wear the aura, arguably, it affects others to a certain extent to do the same as well. You see someone look nice, so you want to look nice too. This creates additional demand for the exclusive vanity in store, hence more income for sts. So if dev upset a group of people who bought the aura whose only purpose is to impress someone or others (or to show that there are the "ELITE group" instead of wearing it for themselves to enjoy) this means there will very much likely to have lower sales (than they would have otherwise) from one of the most hot selling store items - aura.

Why? Because not only does this group of people who want to show off stop buying, when less people wear it as a result, people perceive it as "less desirable" so less people would be affected by those who are wearing it.
Put this another way, you see rich people wearing all sorts of shiny things, you tell yourself one day I want to be rich too (and that most likely means wearing all the shiny stuff including aura). So this effect is in fact pretty powerful.

Overall the above means lower demand for store auras and hence lower income for sts. If you are a business owner, I'm sure you would want as many avenues for income as possible, and with aura being the latest hit in AL, I'm certain they wouldn't want to risk touching it.



How could it not be ok to have as an option?
How would it affect you negatively if I could turn off auras on my screen?

As replied above, the potential negative impact is not so much on me, or others (the aura owners) but more so on dev.

In short, I would not vote for this for reasons mentioned earlier.

[Stephencobear]

^ you imagine that ppl will buy less

I disagree because ppl always run for titles badges which cost money often

Additional envious demand won’t change for the above reason

I don’t see anyone on this thread with 1k views saying they won’t buy anymore if it’s implemented

Anything else?

[Nocturnus]

^ you imagine that ppl will buy less

I disagree because ppl always run for titles badges which cost money often

Additional envious demand won’t change for the above reason

I don’t see anyone on this thread with 1k views saying they won’t buy anymore if it’s implemented

Anything else?

You waste your time arguing with that guy, he is totally contradictory, he says he does not support changes, but he literally made a thread, where he asks to turn off the auras. You can check it is a few threads below.

[Alghost]

You waste your time arguing with that guy, he is totally contradictory, he says he does not support changes, but he literally made a thread, where he asks to turn off the auras. You can check it is a few threads below.

I can’t believe you would post such a thing, people can have the right to change opinion, it’s only natural as a species……. Cease your investigation immediately!!!Only you can see this part of the message, don’t comment anymore for you decide the fate of it all, Cinco, the Devs are all in on it!!! SEARCH IN THE CLOUDS THEY KNOW THE ANSWERS!!!The shadow masters will speak with you shortly, stay tuned……. We evolve to agree just disagree to someone else’s liking. Thank you.

[Analytical]

You waste your time arguing with that guy, he is totally contradictory, he says he does not support changes, but he literally made a thread, where he asks to turn off the auras. You can check it is a few threads below.

This guy is consistently having comprehension problem.

Turning on/off satellite = Turning on/off aura?

Wow. Dude. Just wow.

Here's the thread link:
https://www.spacetimestudios.com/showthread.php?613000-Aura-an-alternative-option


^ you imagine that ppl will buy less
I disagree because ppl always run for titles badges which cost money often
Additional envious demand wont change for the above reason


Envious demand can come from many sources, like auras, op gears, vanities, beautiful houses/furniture etc etc. It's obviously not just exclusive to title and badges.

Notice that I'm referring specifically to this particular source - aura sales and the envious demand/additional demand that comes solely from it. For sure, I'm aware sts is making good money from people who want badges/titles, but that's not what I'm talking about here. Also, while I understand there are many things sts is selling/making money from, I'm definitely not gonna go all over the place here.

I hope we stay within our aura topic discussion and be relevant in our replies.

Anyway Back to topic, for each source of this envious demand, it contributes to additional demand for a store item (in this case Aura, which happened to be one of the hottest store sales) and hence additional income for sts. Introducing this toggle option for aura display means risking this particular source of additional demand/income.


I don't see anyone on this thread with 1k views saying they wont buy anymore if its implemented
Don't want to sound offensive but this is totally nonsense. I expect more from you than this, imagine me saying the same thing but different version:
"I don't see anyone on this thread with 1k views saying they won't buy less if its implemented"

Of course we don't know this data as of now unless we actually make a poll on it, so no point using this shaky assumption in anyone's defense of their stand here. That's why I clearly mentioned the above is a possible concern that may be holding dev back from giving us the toggle option for aura, never did I ever claim that this is what happens.

[Ilove_Poopoo]

Yes please, option to toggle them off...

We already have options to toggle off other obstructions that affect others gameplay stated numerous times above; badges titles etc.. But again, a similar approach was done with titles badges.. but did people run less leaderboards or events? Nope. Its more competitive than ever with scores climbing higher and higher by the year.

Furthermore, what is the logic behind sales from aura's being less if this option was implemented? Again, this is an option.. People who care will have this toggled on, but, when people have this toggled off means that they don't give a damn about you. Why would you buy less aura's? To flex to people that don't care?

Also consider the people who find the game unplayable with the obstructions set by aura's affecting their gameplay, they may quit or play the game less, hence, affecting activity and income. Which is very likely.

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[Analytical]

Yes please, option to toggle them off...

We already have options to toggle off other obstructions that affect others gameplay stated numerous times above; badges titles etc.. But again, a similar approach was done with titles badges.. but did people run less leaderboards or events? Nope. Its more competitive than ever with scores climbing higher and higher by the year.

Furthermore, what is the logic behind sales from aura's being less if this option was implemented? Again, this is an option.. People who care will have this toggled on, but, when people have this toggled off means that they don't give a damn about you. Why would you buy less aura's? To flex to people that don't care?

Also consider the people who find the game unplayable with the obstructions set by aura's affecting their gameplay, they may quit or play the game less, hence, affecting activity and income. Which is very likely.


In a clearer sequence, same reply to you



Nice, this means aura is only occasionally impeding? So with the improvement on boss attacks/proc visuals and more to come, it is thus less of an issue of priority.

In short, my stand is simple too.

I don't disagree with adding the option ON/Off. However to be fair, if I support this option, I would have to agree for sts to add all of the above in the checklist as well, as I don't see why not too since there are all not a priority/necessity at the moment but more of a preference for more control or "cleaner gameplay".




Affecting gameplay is pretty subjective.

In the context of running pve map, on top of aura blocking visual, it could also mean someone I put on ignore list is appearing on my map and I want the option for example to make him disappear from my screen as I'm significantly distressed by it. And under the same condition, the aura visuals could actually be enjoyed by other players who don't see it as impeding their gameplay but more like adding colors to the boring map they run everyday once they get good at playing dm for example, they don't care if you are blocking them visually they still can time their skills properly or move around until they get to see what's happening.

Isn't the main problem blocking our gameplay?

So assomer and sts team

-made it clearer for people to see when boss attacks by using dark and bolded color

-clear RED proc visuals like "Marked", "Drown" etc

They want to solve the problem without possibly dissatisfying a large portion of players who enjoy cool visuals, even while playing in pve maps.

As long as the gameplay isn't blocked, the option to disable visuals immediately becomes a preference instead of a necessity.





Here's a checklist, albeit not exhaustive:
(feel free to add)

[emoji736]Player Name
[emoji736]Title
[emoji736]Badge
[emoji736]Seasonal rank/Pvp Rank
[emoji736]Gears(Helm) ​
[emoji736]Vanities (Helm, Armor)
[emoji736]Player buff
[emoji736]Pets name
Gears(Armor, Belt, Ring, Amulet, Artifact)
Vanities (Weapon, Banner, Backpack, Aura)
Player stats
Pets display
Map names, Map level range, Map timer
Menu page
Avatar display
Boss/Mob hp display
Damage dealt display
Health regeneration display
Other people Proc display
Boss/mobs attacks display
"Ghost mode"
Guildhall furniture display

Alternatively, to make things even easier, here's the ultimate button to disable all:

"Uninstall button"




There are far more important things imo that dev should look at, given the limited time and resources and size of sts team, I would support suggestions that would significantly help the game like focusing on solving issues such as class balance, new gears, gold economy, new players experience just to name a few.

[Ilove_Poopoo]

Same reply to you:You're overthinking it. The premise is towards aura's impeding gameplay (pve/pvp and towns) aswell as proc visuals, as they affect gameplay the most and is much needed.

The list you mentioned are other options to minimize the HUD, to better see the battlefield. In which I wouldn't mind having as well because again they're options? But whats the relevance with the topic behind aura's and procs?



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[Analytical]

You're overthinking it. The premise is towards aura's impeding gameplay (pve/pvp and towns) aswell as proc visuals, as they affect gameplay the most and is much needed.

The list you mentioned are other options to minimize the HUD, to better see the battlefield. In which I wouldn't mind having as well because again they're options? But whats the relevance with the topic behind aura's and procs?


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Actually read before you reply. Please don't be another norturus who is renowned with his comprehension issues.

No point engaging in a discussion where ppl don't read what was already said and keep asking the same sheet over and over again.

[Ilove_Poopoo]

Actually read before you reply. Please don't be another norturus who is renowned with his comprehension issues.

No point engaging in a discussion where ppl don't read what was already said and keep asking the same sheet over and over again.Your argument states that sts must implement everything in your list if they'll implement this specific one.

Why is that? Isn't the topic regarding how aura's and proc visuals affect gameplay, the numerous threads and comments about it? Your list has no relevance to the topic whatsoever.

I thought u wanted a civil and mature discussion, but why are you resorting on insults and criticizing someones comprehensiveness and comparing it with others?



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[Ilove_Poopoo]

I have yet to see a logical argument that hasn't already been proven otherwise with previous scenarios to why this shouldn't be a thing.

It all boils down yet again with the "Sts has more important stuff to do" arguement which isn't a good arguement itself and been used as a last resort when they have nothing else to say or rebut.

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[Analytical]

Your argument states that sts must implement everything in your list if they'll implement this specific one.

Why is that? Isn't the topic regarding how aura's and proc visuals affect gameplay, the numerous threads and comments about it? Your list has no relevance to the topic whatsoever.

I thought u wanted a civil and mature discussion, but why are you resorting on insults and criticizing someones comprehensiveness and comparing it with others?

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When people legit don't read and comment from the bottom up, don't expect me to still be patient enough to type all those shhet again.

Further, I don't see how is this insults, it is literally a DIRECT statement of fact: comprehension issue. It is what it is.

No idea how many people like to selectively read things they like and totally disregard what they don't like as if it was never said. I have already made my point and will only reply to people who at least read before they so eagerly wanna comment down what they already have in mind.


I have yet to see a logical argument that hasn't already been proven otherwise with previous scenarios to why this shouldn't be a thing.

It all boils down yet again with the "Sts has more important stuff to do" arguement which isn't a good arguement itself and been used as a last resort when they have nothing else to say or rebut.

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How easy it is for you to dismiss it like it was nothing, nice, you call this a good rebuttal yourself?

For once I actually thought you are at least one of those who can speak well, seems like I was completely mistaken.

For god sake:


Isn't the main problem blocking our gameplay?

So assomer and sts team

-made it clearer for people to see when boss attacks by using dark and bolded color

-clear RED proc visuals like "Marked", "Drown" etc

They want to solve the problem without possibly dissatisfying a large portion of players who enjoy cool visuals, even while playing in pve maps.

As long as the gameplay isn't blocked, the option to disable visuals immediately becomes a preference instead of a necessity.

[Ilove_Poopoo]

When people legit don't read and comment from the bottom up, don't expect me to still be patient enough to type all those shhet again.

Further, I don't see how is this insults, it is literally a DIRECT statement of fact: comprehension issue. It is what it is.

No idea how many people like to selectively read things they like and totally disregard what they don't like as if it was never said. I have already made my point and will only reply to people who at least read before they so eagerly wanna comment down what they already have in mind.No one was selectively reading. Your point was questioned for relevance but you resorted to the "I don't wanna discuss it futher", which only proves you have nothing else to say but to point fingers to people and label them with comprehensive issues.

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[Analytical]

which only proves you have nothing else to say
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This marks the first ever assumption from you, and you sounded so right about it fantastic.
Simply look at how many comments I have included here, and decide for yourself if I don't have anything to say or if I merely couldn't care less about people who can't do the least to read.

And to be fair, I would actually give you the benefit of doubt, and pretend in your first reply in this thread you did read everything before commenting. Maybe you missed out on something.

So, relevance you say?
If aura impeding gameplay means we need the toggle option, that means anything else in that checklist that has the same impeding/uncomfortable effect as aura should be included as well by the same logic, which directly leads to priority issue. Since they have already improved boss attack and proc visuals, this is now not something that would require as much attention as that of class balance.

I know you are gonna ask me this doesn't mean this option shouldn't be added, like did i say i disagree with adding this option?
I said i dont support it because of the two reasons earlier. This is why I said to read it before you reply.

[Ilove_Poopoo]

This marks the first ever assumption from you, and you sounded so right about it fantastic.
Simply look at how many comments I have included here, and decide for yourself if I don't have anything to say or if I merely couldn't care less about people who can't do the least to read.

And to be fair, I would actually give you the benefit of doubt, and pretend in your first reply in this thread you did read everything before commenting. Maybe you missed out on something.

So, relevance you say?
If aura impeding gameplay means we need the toggle option, that means anything else in that checklist that has the same impeding/uncomfortable effect as aura should be included as well by the same logic, which directly leads to priority issue. Since they have already improved boss attack and proc visuals, this is now not something that would require as much attention as that of class balance.

I know you are gonna ask me this doesn't mean this option shouldn't be added, like did i say i disagree with adding this option?
I said i dont support it because of the two reasons earlier. This is why I said to read it before you reply.Okay I missed exactly this part "Since they have already improved boss attack and proc visuals". All good now thanks!

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[Nocturnus]

I can’t believe you would post such a thing, people can have the right to change opinion, it’s only natural as a species……. Cease your investigation immediately!!!Only you can see this part of the message, don’t comment anymore for you decide the fate of it all, Cinco, the Devs are all in on it!!! SEARCH IN THE CLOUDS THEY KNOW THE ANSWERS!!!The shadow masters will speak with you shortly, stay tuned……. We evolve to agree just disagree to someone else’s liking. Thank you.

Incredible xD. Say that you do not support any change of auras and at the same time you are doing 1 thread requesting a shutdown of auras. Does that make any sense to you?

[Nocturnus]

This guy is consistently having comprehension problem.

Turning on/off satellite = Turning on/off aura?

Wow. Dude. Just wow.

Here's the thread link:
https://www.spacetimestudios.com/showthread.php?613000-Aura-an-alternative-option



Envious demand can come from many sources, like auras, op gears, vanities, beautiful houses/furniture etc etc. It's obviously not just exclusive to title and badges.

Notice that I'm referring specifically to this particular source - aura sales and the envious demand/additional demand that comes solely from it. For sure, I'm aware sts is making good money from people who want badges/titles, but that's not what I'm talking about here. Also, while I understand there are many things sts is selling/making money from, I'm definitely not gonna go all over the place here.

I hope we stay within our aura topic discussion and be relevant in our replies.

Anyway Back to topic, for each source of this envious demand, it contributes to additional demand for a store item (in this case Aura, which happened to be one of the hottest store sales) and hence additional income for sts. Introducing this toggle option for aura display means risking this particular source of additional demand/income.


Don't want to sound offensive but this is totally nonsense. I expect more from you than this, imagine me saying the same thing but different version:
"I don't see anyone on this thread with 1k views saying they won't buy less if its implemented"

Of course we don't know this data as of now unless we actually make a poll on it, so no point using this shaky assumption in anyone's defense of their stand here. That's why I clearly mentioned the above is a possible concern that may be holding dev back from giving us the toggle option for aura, never did I ever claim that this is what happens.

50% of the auras have something floating around, ask for any change, in them it contradicts your entire narrative.
The one who has trouble sitting on one side of the fight is you, you are continually contradicting yourself, no one asks for your opinion for each forum topic, so take a little more time to answer, or you will end up mixing a thousand topics into one, like you always do it.

[Nocturnus]

This marks the first ever assumption from you, and you sounded so right about it fantastic.
Simply look at how many comments I have included here, and decide for yourself if I don't have anything to say or if I merely couldn't care less about people who can't do the least to read.

And to be fair, I would actually give you the benefit of doubt, and pretend in your first reply in this thread you did read everything before commenting. Maybe you missed out on something.

So, relevance you say?
If aura impeding gameplay means we need the toggle option, that means anything else in that checklist that has the same impeding/uncomfortable effect as aura should be included as well by the same logic, which directly leads to priority issue. Since they have already improved boss attack and proc visuals, this is now not something that would require as much attention as that of class balance.

I know you are gonna ask me this doesn't mean this option shouldn't be added, like did i say i disagree with adding this option?
I said i dont support it because of the two reasons earlier. This is why I said to read it before you reply.

Since the thread was started by a developer, it can be assumed that for some reason this has more or equal relevance than anything else, once again he who thinks he knows everything, misunderstands things.

[Analytical]

50% of the auras have something floating around, ask for any change, in them it contradicts your entire narrative.
The one who has trouble sitting on one side of the fight is you, you are continually contradicting yourself, no one asks for your opinion for each forum topic, so take a little more time to answer, or you will end up mixing a thousand topics into one, like you always do it.

Contradicts what??

Satellite toggle is for people who likes to have a variety of aura versions, in this case, two options.
Aura toggle is for people who wants a cleaner gameplay.

Of course I know some complain satellite blocks them too, but that was not why I was suggesting it for.



Okay I missed exactly this part "Since they have already improved boss attack and proc visuals". All good now thanks!

I guess nocturus made me less patient in replying, my apologies for throwing it up on you. I knew you are not like him, we all miss things when reading, it's understandable. Anyway, I thought I would check if i miss anything you said that i did not address, so here is one I found:



Furthermore, what is the logic behind sales from aura's being less if this option was implemented? Again, this is an option.. People who care will have this toggled on, but, when people have this toggled off means that they don't give a damn about you. Why would you buy less aura's? To flex to people that don't care?


Sure, Let's talk about when people actually toggle it off.
For people who actually hate aura, aura would now be non-existent to them. They won't see it anymore. And I'm sure there's no point to discuss this group of people. No sales would ever come from them.
For people who loves aura, no point to discuss them too since they are definitely gonna buy the aura.
Now, for people who only want to disable aura because of it blocking gameplay, especially in a pve map, they will turn on/off as they like.

This third group of people is who I want to talk about.

The longer they have this option turned off, the less they would care about aura as part of the game. This is analogous to having ads blocker. The effect of the ads on you is much lower because you are seeing it less often. Typically, people turn off this option especially when they are running for LB event for example and when they do rest in town, do you think they would sore their eyes more by enabling aura back? No there's a high chance they would keep this option off 80-90% of time.

So in the long term, at best, this may likely lead to lower aura sales as less people see the need to wear it and even if they do buy it they have it turn off, so they might as well not buy in the first place. At worst, when people actually get used to not seeing aura, we may even go back to the times when they were no auras at all, people no longer wearing/buying them. And as mentioned earlier, with aura being one of the fast selling store items, I doubt sts would wanna risk any move which may potentially or significantly(in the long term) lower their sales.

[Ilove_Poopoo]

Sure, Let's talk about when people actually toggle it off.
For people who actually hate aura, aura would now be non-existent to them. They won't see it anymore. And I'm sure there's no point to discuss this group of people. No sales would ever come from them.
For people who loves aura, no point to discuss them too since they are definitely gonna buy the aura.
Now, for people who only want to disable aura because of it blocking gameplay, especially in a pve map, they will turn on/off as they like.

This third group of people is who I want to talk about.

The longer they have this option turned off, the less they would care about aura as part of the game. This is analogous to having ads blocker. The effect of the ads on you is much lower because you are seeing it less often. Typically, people turn off this option especially when they are running for LB event for example and when they do rest in town, do you think they would sore their eyes more by enabling aura back? No there's a high chance they would keep this option off 80-90% of time.

So in the long term, at best, this may likely lead to lower aura sales as less people see the need to wear it and even if they do buy it they have it turn off, so they might as well not buy in the first place. At worst, when people actually get used to not seeing aura, we may even go back to the times when they were no auras at all, people no longer wearing/buying them. And as mentioned earlier, with aura being one of the fast selling store items, I doubt sts would wanna risk any move which may potentially or significantly(in the long term) lower their sales.

This is not true. Toggling off the aura doesn't mean they are discouraged to ever turn it back on or will they ever get one again.

Again as you said it, will be turned off during gameplay, and what if the lb prize is an aura? (2021 goblin event). Why would they remain aura's toggled off when the main prize they're running for is an aura? Unless they only wanted the 50plats and noble gem.

The same can be said with titles badges pvp rankings that can be toggled off by this 3rd group of people. Over the course of several years did the same people run less events and leaderboards?

The correlation between having this option toward sales is non-existent and doesn't matter. The factor correlating to sales is the design of the badge/vanity/aura, not these options to hide them.

I constantly toggle them off in maps, but turn it on after. It didn't and never occured to me to run less leaderboards or buy less just because I can turn them off. It doesn't make sense. Its all toggled for efficient runs and nothing about it after.

Because after all badges, aura's and titles all won't help us in playing maps, but rather the opposite and cause more trouble, hence, turned off. But that doesn't mean we don't want to see our accomplishments and aesthetics anymore after.









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[Alghost]

This is not true. Toggling off the aura doesn't mean they are discouraged to ever turn it back on or will they ever get one again.

Again as you said it, will be turned off during gameplay, and what if the lb prize is an aura? (2021 goblin event). Why would they remain aura's toggled off when the main prize they're running for is an aura? Unless they only wanted the 50plats and noble gem.

The same can be said with titles badges pvp rankings that can be toggled off by this 3rd group of people. Over the course of several years did the same people run less events and leaderboards?

The correlation between having this option toward sales is non-existent and doesn't matter. The factor correlating to sales is the design of the badge/vanity/aura, not these options to hide them.

I constantly toggle them off in maps, but turn it on after. It didn't and never occured to me to run less leaderboards or buy less just because I can turn them off. It doesn't make sense. Its all toggled for efficient runs and nothing about it after.

Because after all badges, aura's and titles all won't help us in playing maps, but rather the opposite and cause more trouble, hence, turned off. But that doesn't mean we don't want to see our accomplishments and aesthetics anymore after.









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Why are you arguing with someone who has “analyze” in their name!!!

Clearly you’re the one over thinking it, STS only makes money from their precious auras it’s not like we have some sort of chests in store where you can find the strongest items in the game by opening them using platinum or you know… I wish we had a system where you get to enhance your gear to make you faster or stronger, that be pretty cool. Sometimes I even think about why STS hasn’t added some sort of content you know where it’s really competitive like only 10 or 5 players had to fight for their score to be higher than the others to obtain certain rewards that lasts weeks.

But I think analytical is right, STS wouldn’t make any money from my ideas above, it’s just wishful thinking at this point.

On a woke note, we should just idk maybe reply to the topic at hand and give our own opinion about the auras and how they affect you personally instead of arguing with everyone who doesn’t agree with how you think so therefore they’re wrong. Just something to think about, you know who you are.

[Ilove_Poopoo]

Why are you arguing with someone who has “analyze” in their name!!!

Clearly you’re the one over thinking it, STS only makes money from their precious auras it’s not like we have some sort of chests in store where you can find the strongest items in the game by opening them using platinum or you know… I wish we had a system where you get to enhance your gear to make you faster or stronger, that be pretty cool. Sometimes I even think about why STS hasn’t added some sort of content you know where it’s really competitive like only 10 or 5 players had to fight for their score to be higher than the others to obtain certain rewards that lasts weeks.

But I think analytical is right, STS wouldn’t make any money from my ideas above, it’s just wishful thinking at this point.

On a woke note, we should just idk maybe reply to the topic at hand and give our own opinion about the auras and how they affect you personally instead of arguing with everyone who doesn’t agree with how you think so therefore they’re wrong. Just something to think about, you know who you are.Oh scary! Didn't know ghosts exist 'till now.

Jokes aside thanks for the definitely not sarcasm comment.

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[Analytical]

Why are you arguing with someone who has “analyze” in their name!!!



HHAHAHA, yes yes! XD


This is not true. Toggling off the aura doesn't mean they are discouraged to ever turn it back on or will they ever get one again.
Again as you said it, will be turned off during gameplay, and what if the lb prize is an aura? (2021 goblin event). Why would they remain aura's toggled off when the main prize they're running for is an aura? Unless they only wanted the 50plats and noble gem.
The same can be said with titles badges pvp rankings that can be toggled off by this 3rd group of people. Over the course of several years did the same people run less events and leaderboards?
The correlation between having this option toward sales is non-existent and doesn't matter. The factor correlating to sales is the design of the badge/vanity/aura, not these options to hide them.
I constantly toggle them off in maps, but turn it on after. It didn't and never occured to me to run less leaderboards or buy less just because I can turn them off. It doesn't make sense. Its all toggled for efficient runs and nothing about it after.
Because after all badges, aura's and titles all won't help us in playing maps, but rather the opposite and cause more trouble, hence, turned off. But that doesn't mean we don't want to see our accomplishments and aesthetics anymore after.

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A pleasure to talk to someone like this. Thank you for coming back (:

Yes, I agree to the following
1. The third group of people not necessarily will have them turn off for long hours. Sounds like when there's no major/LB event people would be more likely to turn them back on and enjoy the views in cities while they afk. Fair enough.
2. The most significant factor is the design of the aura which directly affects the demand for it and hence the sale.

However, what I was primarily referring to isn’t the above, I was referring to the additional demand that came from seeing others having something you don't, in this case is “envious demand” where people buy items because they want to be like others. In my reply to Stephen, I mentioned this additional demand for store items can come from many sources, with envious demand being one of them and as you said the design of the store item being one of the significant factors.

So when they can toggle off others’ appearance,

1.This particular source of additional demand (envious demand) can become non-existent especially when people are used to disabling aura display like how they are used to disable pet name. To compare, previously players are constantly bombarded by the different types of aura/vanity worn by others(constantly exposed to the aura advertisement), now they are reducing this dosage of exposure to the level that would not cause them distress, or in other words, they have the choice now to not see the advertisement of “dope aura” and hence would logically experience less effect(buying desire) from it. Not just that don’t forget some people who would even disable all vanity/aura just because they hate seeing people reminding them of how ugly they look. So they won’t be reminded to buy the “shiny things” and can focus on good gears versus when they are not given this option, they would be constantly reminded they would have 2 goals: to be strong enough to run maps and to look nice in cities just like those rich people. You would say isn’t this good for players? Sure, but not so for developers (: Just imagine giving people the option to turn off store sales or anything else sts is selling for platinum.

2.Less people would experience the effect of this aura advertisement. We know we want to reach as many people and as long as possible for any ads to take effect. Like when you see it frequent enough people wearing it and looks so nice, one random day you would start wondering would I look that nice as well? Can I pair that with one of my vanity set? This is not only applicable to busy people running event LB who would likely miss the advertisement and hence the buying window/desire, it is also particular true for returning players: imagine they get used to turning aura off most of the time and come back to game and then they forget this option actually existed and missed these advertisement "opportunities" that they would otherwise have (i.e. When they have the option turn on and see someone wearing an aura that's not available in auction, and haven't seen anyone else wearing it, he would ask hey how much is this and which event was this from and likely wanna buy it)

In short, what I was mainly talking about here is the risk/chances of people miss seeing these auras (that are only on sale in the weekends) during their busiest time, like in a LB event or in the case of the returning players (whichever that introduces the risk) or giving them the option to focus on gears and not on vanity/aura and hence the potential lowered sales on aura.

Point is, if there are other ways that more directly addresses the problem (blocked gameplay) which is already what they are doing, why would any business owners wanna take this unnecessary risk to lowering their potential sales from this free advertisement?



The same can be said with titles badges pvp rankings that can be toggled off by this 3rd group of people. Over the course of several years did the same people run less events and leaderboards?


As mentioned earlier, there are many sources of demand for an item, including badge, not just limited to showing it to others and we won’t know if many people still runs for badges/titles because of which reason.

Would less people run for badge when more of them know we can actually toggle it off?
Is the reason to run for badges/title really solely on how attractive the badge/title is or it is also affected by other factors?
We don’t know for sure.

That’s why I wanna keep the discussion only on this additional demand coming specifically from envy.
We can talk day and night if we discuss all sources of possible demand for an item. The possible negative impact of having this toggle option is only more relevant on this specific demand source.



I constantly toggle them off in maps, but turn it on after. It didn't and never occured to me to run less leaderboards or buy less just because I can turn them off. It doesn't make sense. Its all toggled for efficient runs and nothing about it after.


Again, this is just you alone, how about others?
Would less people run for badge when more of them know we can actually toggle it off? Does it defeat their purpose to display the badge to other people? Again we don’t know. We don’t know how many people are doing it for their own achievement and how many are doing it to show off to others.

All these reasons/factors are additional demand for an item (aura, badge, vanity etc) and hence additional income for sts, and I’m sure dev wouldn’t want to remove any of these additional income.

[Stephencobear]

Still it seems the only arguments against us having the option are:

1: They made (some) tells brighter so no need for less auras
Problem: they added more clutter when we asked for less, & there are still a lot of tells that get buried

2: devs have better things to do
Problem: subjective, potentially straw man, & doesn’t take away from the fact we are simply asking for that option

3: sales will be affected negatively
Problem: assumption that is contradicted by the many who pay for badges titles & ranks that can be toggled off

Anything else?

Lack of wall of text appreciated

[Analytical]

Still it seems the only arguments against us having the option are:

1: They made (some) tells brighter so no need for less auras
Problem: they added more clutter when we asked for less, & there are still a lot of tells that get buried

2: devs have better things to do
Problem: subjective, potentially straw man, & doesn’t take away from the fact we are simply asking for that option

3: sales will be affected negatively
Problem: assumption that is contradicted by the many who pay for badges titles & ranks that can be toggled off

Anything else?

Lack of wall of text appreciated

"Lack of wall of text appreciated"
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

1. It is not just tells, boss attacks are significantly bolded and dev mentioned more of this would be implemented.

2. Dev did say it is not a simple thing to just toggle it on or off aura(can't find which thread was it already). And likely is why they resorted to making procs/other important gameplay visuals clearer.

3. Many paying for badges is itself an assumption, who knows how many would have paid for badges when there's no such option? We got no numbers to speak so we can only speak conservatively. Meaning, you would want to be safe than sorry. Also we don't know how many players are actually active in AL and out of that how many actually buy auras. All we know is aura sells fasts and it's logical to see why dev wouldn't want to risk any move harming any potential additional income source pertaining to aura sales, which arguably could make up the highest sale in store aside from crates. People don't just "buy badge", they buy something in store that exchanges for gold. Just imagine KFC trying to "toggle" their fried chicken recipe. They would sure think twice, thrice etc before doing that.

Most comments here are obviously subjective hence in the suggestion section.

And thanks for the laugh 😂😂😂

[Alghost]

"Lack of wall of text appreciated"
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

1. It is not just tells, boss attacks are significantly bolded and dev mentioned more of this would be implemented.

2. Dev did say it is not a simple thing to just toggle it on or off aura(can't find which thread was it already). And likely is why they resorted to making procs/other important gameplay visuals clearer.

3. Many paying for badges is itself an assumption, who knows how many would have paid for badges when there's no such option? We got no numbers to speak so we can only speak conservatively. Meaning, you would want to be safe than sorry. Also we don't know how many players are actually active in AL and out of that how many actually buy auras. All we know is aura sells fasts and it's logical to see why dev wouldn't want to risk any move harming any potential additional income source pertaining to aura sales, which arguably could make up the highest sale in store aside from crates. People don't just "buy badge", they buy something in store that exchanges for gold. Just imagine KFC trying to "toggle" their fried chicken recipe. They would sure think twice, thrice etc before doing that.

Most comments here are obviously subjective hence in the suggestion section.

And thanks for the laugh 😂😂😂

Come on guy, just pick a problem already!

You made a whole thread about the disabling of the aura then when sts made this thread and people started to agree with having the option to turn off or on the aura, then you came up with a new problem saying “no! If they add the option to turn off/on an aura then they should add my whole bucket list too”.

Now that people agree to add the bucket list you came up with+the turn off/on option for the vanity aura you again come up with another new problem saying “if they add all this STS won’t make any money”.

come on dude XD I thought my sarcastic post towards you was already clear enough that money isn’t a problem for STS nor anything else you mentioned or else they wouldn’t have made this thread. Also they got rid of proc stack too which was way more of a money maker than the auras combined and yet the game hasn’t crashed yet…

[Analytical]

Come on guy, just pick a problem already!

You made a whole thread about the disabling of the aura then when sts made this thread and people started to agree with having the option to turn off or on the aura, then you came up with a new problem saying “no! If they add the option to turn off/on an aura then they should add my whole bucket list too”.

Now that people agree to add the bucket list you came up with+the turn off/on option for the vanity aura you again come up with another new problem saying “if they add all this STS won’t make any money”.

come on dude XD I thought my sarcastic post towards you was already clear enough that money isn’t a problem for STS nor anything else you mentioned or else they wouldn’t have made this thread. Also they got rid of proc stack too which was way more of a money maker than the auras combined and yet the game hasn’t crashed yet…

You are funny as f LOL🤣🤣🤣 literalling laughing out loud HHAHAHAA

Satellite display toggle thread bro not aura display toggle thread 🤭🤭 like in the case of candy aura, some people like the candy and some don't so I suggested this so that both groups can be happy and we can have more than one variant of a single aura :D

Hmmm.... XD I think I started off with saying disagreeing aura toggle here in this thread. Then I realised I actually don't disagree with the option but more like won't support it mainly because I want dev to focus on other more pressing problems first, then I went further and wanna guess why dev might not wanna add options (just logical guesses)

If, only if money isn't a problem, or (hopefully) it won't affect much of their sale, then the only thing I would say is to solve the class balance issue and new arcane gears first. This aura thing well, we can take it slowly. And if possible also add the reasonable ones in the bucket list XD.

[Ilove_Poopoo]

Not just that don’t forget some people who would even disable all vanity/aura just because they hate seeing people reminding them of how ugly they look. So they won’t be reminded to buy the “shiny things” and can focus on good gears versus when they are not given this option, they would be constantly reminded they would have 2 goals: to be strong enough to run maps and to look nice in cities just like those rich people.This is essentially the first group of people you mentioned earlier that you said had no point in discussing, but you brought it up anyways.
"For people who actually hate aura, aura would now be non-existent to them. They won't see it anymore. And I'm sure there's no point to discuss this group of people."

"No sales would ever come from them.You would say isn’t this good for players? Sure, but not so for developers (:" But this brings up another arguement. If you say that people would focus more on gears, then expenditures will be directed more on gears, hence, more demand on gears that affect both awakening gem and crate sales revenue. Yes, you're losing revenue on this source (Aura's) but it has been shifted and gained from another source (Awakening gems and Crates)[/Quote]


it is also particularly true for returning players: imagine they get used to turning aura off most of the time and come back to game and then they forget this option actually existed and missed these advertisement "opportunities" that they would otherwise have (i.e. When they have the option turn on and see someone wearing an aura that's not available in auction, and haven't seen anyone else wearing it, he would ask hey how much is this and which event was this from and likely wanna buy it)This is a somewhat a try-hard hypothetical situation. It's as if returning players who used to toggle off titles and names had forgotten about the options to unhide them. It's more like how once you learn to ride a bike, you'll never forget how to do it again!

And, once again, this falls under your first demographic group, which you chose not to discuss but brought it up once again. People who don't care and have toggled them off.


In short, what I was mainly talking about here is the risk/chances of people miss seeing these auras (that are only on sale in the weekends) during their busiest time, like in a LB event or in the case of the returning players (whichever that introduces the risk) or giving them the option to focus on gears and not on vanity/aura and hence the potential lowered sales on aura.

Point is, if there are other ways that more directly addresses the problem (blocked gameplay) which is already what they are doing, why would any business owners wanna take this unnecessary risk to lowering their potential sales from this free advertisement?

This isn't the first time this has happened. Everything had risks, including the option to hide Badges, Titles, PvP rankings, and so on. All of which could have impacted their revenue from energy kits, activity from events, and LB's.

Looking at how competitive lb is nowadays and how popular energy kits are, it's clear that hiding them had no effect.


Would less people run for badge when more of them know we can actually toggle it off?
Is the reason to run for badges/title really solely on how attractive the badge/title is or it is also affected by other factors?
We don’t know for sure.We won't know what everyone's motivatives are, but I can tell you that the most common response and complaint (Too many to list) about the engagement of vanities they release has been in fact appearance..

Again, this is just you alone, how about others?
Would less people run for badge when more of them know we can actually toggle it off? Does it defeat their purpose to display the badge to other people? Again we don’t know. We don’t know how many people are doing it for their own achievement and how many are doing it to show off to others.Well, I stated myself because I'm part of this "3rd group demographic" you mentioned, and my response is better than nothing and provides a partial picture of what this demographic really thinks about it. And to that I say, it doesn't matter.

Since we're only interested in the third group, perhaps create a poll to gather enough respondents (like myself) to test your hypothesis of your aforementioned "buying desire" being influenced by this toggle off option.





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[Analytical]

This is essentially the first group of people you mentioned earlier that you said had no point in discussing, but you brought it up anyways.
This is a somewhat a try-hard hypothetical situation. It's as if returning players who used to toggle off titles and names had forgotten about the options to unhide them. It's more like how once you learn to ride a bike, you'll never forget how to do it again!
And, once again, this falls under your first demographic group, which you chose not to discuss but brought it up once again. People who don't care and have toggled them off.

Was thinking if you are gonna say this hahahah booby traps XD anyway nothing much to say about this, I would leave it/end it here (:



"No sales would ever come from them. You would say isn’t this good for players? Sure, but not so for developers (:" But this brings up another arguement. If you say that people would focus more on gears, then expenditures will be directed more on gears, hence, more demand on gears that affect both awakening gem and crate sales revenue. Yes, you're losing revenue on this source (Aura's) but it has been shifted and gained from another source (Awakening gems and Crates)
Good point here but you missing out one thing: both goals are available (gears and appearance) when there's no such toggle option instead of shifting to gears, we could have them spend on both.



This isn't the first time this has happened. Everything had risks, including the option to hide Badges, Titles, PvP rankings, and so on. All of which could have impacted their revenue from energy kits, activity from events, and LB's.
Looking at how competitive lb is nowadays and how popular energy kits are, it's clear that hiding them had no effect.


As I said, I wouldn't be so sure to claim many people know this option to disable badge, especially people who don't even use or know forum existed and I'm surprised there are people (even in forum) don't know that they can toggle off crafting completion. this is the only thing I would argue can't be fairly used as a base of any side of the argument. It could very well be because many don't know this option exist and if more know about this they may not have run for the badge.

and again we don’t know how many people are doing it for their own achievement and how many are doing it to show off to others(who knows we may actually have more people running for badge if it wasn't allowed to be toggled off? Can read more on my recent reply to Stephen, just only added below), which brings me in agreement with you to have a poll on this as your reply below



We won't know what everyone's motivatives are, but I can tell you that the most common response and complaint (Too many to list) about the engagement of vanities they release has been in fact appearance..Well, I stated myself because I'm part of this "3rd group demographic" you mentioned, and my response is better than nothing and provides a partial picture of what this demographic really thinks about it. And to that I say, it doesn't matter.

Since we're only interested in the third group, perhaps create a poll to gather enough respondents (like myself) to test your hypothesis of your aforementioned "buying desire" being influenced by this toggle off option.






3. Many paying for badges is itself an assumption, who knows how many would have paid for badges when there's no such option? We got no numbers to speak so we can only speak conservatively. Meaning, you would want to be safe than sorry. Also we don't know how many players are actually active in AL and out of that how many actually buy auras. All we know is aura sells fasts and it's logical to see why dev wouldn't want to risk any move harming any potential additional income source pertaining to aura sales, which arguably could make up the highest sale in store aside from crates. People don't just "buy badge", they buy something in store that exchanges for gold. Just imagine KFC trying to "toggle" their fried chicken recipe. They would sure think twice, thrice etc before doing that.

[asommers]

As much as I don't want to resurrect this thread, the original post content has been implemented and will go out with the next server update. In addition to updating the render order of the auras with respect to monster tells, the monster tells have all been updated to be a bit more visible (similar to the Brood Dragon's warning indicators in the Winter event).

After the update goes live, if you find any issues, please feel free to let me know.

-ALS

[Immortal_Blood]

Ty for doing something but wanted to mention that the objection isn’t only that auras cover up game play, it’s that the game is visually obnoxious to the point I want to play less

I mentioned that auras cover game play, & your answer was to make red zones even more garish adding to clutter

Each second in game is like looking at the jackpot effect of bad casino games

What is the difference between being able to turn off badges, titles, & names, & giving us the option to turn off auras?

If you think ppl will buy less then all you have to do is look at how ppl have always ran for badges
What is the logic?

I'm not sure how to solve this thing you describe. Hehehe

[Immortal_Blood]

Though. In a few minutes of thought I find myself thinking about aura opacity option, wherein the visual can be dulled down.

P.s seeing this thread is interesting to a nerd like me.

Edit: dulling auras just seems so simple on paper doesn't it. Hahahahah (it isn't)

[Immortal_Blood]

Or infact maybe a couple visual effects buttons, low , medium, high ; low making auras duller than a TV show filmed in the 1900's

[Stephencobear]

As much as I don't want to resurrect this thread, the original post content has been implemented and will go out with the next server update. In addition to updating the render order of the auras with respect to monster tells, the monster tells have all been updated to be a bit more visible (similar to the Brood Dragon's warning indicators in the Winter event).

After the update goes live, if you find any issues, please feel free to let me know.

-ALS

Np, I found a new game to spend money on
You didn’t listen, you didn’t say why Turning off badges & titles was any different
Cuz it’s not

[Nocturnus]

As much as I don't want to resurrect this thread, the original post content has been implemented and will go out with the next server update. In addition to updating the render order of the auras with respect to monster tells, the monster tells have all been updated to be a bit more visible (similar to the Brood Dragon's warning indicators in the Winter event).

After the update goes live, if you find any issues, please feel free to let me know.

-ALS

Good, I hope it helps reduce the lag that there is with so many auras and things flying in the city or maps.

[Decentralized]

Honestly, Auras are dope. They are so visually pleasing.

But.. they aren’t worth the negatives it brings to the game. I’m talking the vanity aura slot mainly.

Personally I’d say sticking to the idea of Dr. Arcanstein vanity sets or archon ring type gears, is the best route.

Vampire amulet with the lil bat aura was awesome, the ghost knight recurve bow is perfect amount of heavy aura, kershal is a perfect orbiting aura.

I say slowly rework back to this era of ideas. Small & simple, but don’t discredit what creativity y’all have brought with all these new auras. Use that creativity but just smaller & simpler[emoji110] I think that’ll fix a lot of issues people have with auras!! Especially while in maps. Cosemetic freaks like me still get our precious fashion gears & those who don’t care for them won’t have them shoved in their face & 50% of their screen! [emoji38][emoji28]


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[marzeg]

For those who want to hide aura, i think you should see it the same as IRL;

When a colleague, a neighbor, a brother-in-law etc buy a Ferrari or a Rolex it is because they want everyone to see it, you don't have any option to hide it, people have done this since ages, it is simply part of social standing.

As for the ability to hide badge etc, i think it is only to facilitate group screenshot etc


Ah yes, here we have your average player making comparisons between fantasy and reality, and then proceeding to apply those reality concepts to fantasy mechanics. :beguiled::highly_amused:

[PatD]

Ah yes, here we have your average player making comparisons between fantasy and reality, and then proceeding to apply those reality concepts to fantasy mechanics. :beguiled::highly_amused:

MMOs are worlds that can be seen as ideal to players. You meet people who are just like you - immersed in a world with infinite choices all trying to gain power and respect to have a sense of pride.

In the end, a real world is not one where you were born in, but the one you choose to be in.

Hence the need to compare IRL behavior with MMOs behavior (IRL people are playing those games, so they will obviously have very similiar behavior in the game and yes they will work hard to show off some social standing).

[Ilove_Poopoo]

MMOs are worlds that can be seen as ideal to players. You meet people who are just like you - immersed in a world with infinite choices all trying to gain power and respect to have a sense of pride.

In the end, a real world is not one where you were born in, but the one you choose to be in.

Hence the need to compare IRL behavior with MMOs behavior (IRL people are playing those games, so they will obviously have very similiar behavior in the game and yes they will work hard to show off some social standing).Except your comparison doesn't correlate to what is happening ingame.

As long as it doesn't impede gameplay and obstruct other peoples gameplay, then it doesn't matter what car or watch you have.

Your car and watch resembles a vanity that you wear, but when you revv or pass thru a school zone, then that resembles the aura's that extends beyond your character and interferes with your team mates.

Currently, even with the corresponding changes, I still have to walk away from my teamates to distinct whos proc was active and decide to save my procs for the next phase/boss.

Not limited to vanity auras, but also with proc auras that would also block redzones, and cause frame drops. In which I hope could also be toggled off or its transparency @asommers


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[PatD]

Except your comparison doesn't correlate to what is happening ingame.

As long as it doesn't impede gameplay and obstruct other peoples gameplay, then it doesn't matter what car or watch you have.

Your car and watch resembles a vanity that you wear, but when you revv or pass thru a school zone, then that resembles the aura's that extends beyond your character and interferes with your team mates.

Currently, even with the corresponding changes, I still have to walk away from my teamates to distinct whos proc was active and decide to save my procs for the next phase/boss.

Not limited to vanity auras, but also with proc auras that would also block redzones, and cause frame drops. In which I hope could also be toggled off or its transparency @asommers


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I have never said otherwise, what i'm saying is that if they add option to hide aura i am sure they will sell less aura after that, people will say why should i buy a 100 dollars aura if no one see it?

Been working in marketing, publicity for years, believe me this is what is gonna happen if they do this.

This is an option that should have been implement the very 1st time they have add aura, it is too late to add it now imo

[Cinco]

Two quick things. One, I don’t want to allow auras to be switched off. Two, I do like the new targeting indicators that solve the visibility issue.


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