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01-27-2022, 02:56 PM
I really hope this is some typo on the desc.
You guys hyped all of us warriors up to see that we were getting a very good 25% haste pet after a while and decide to nerf it last minute. We have 2 pets in AL that correspond with the mythic 81 sword and aegis; that is heroic churro / arcanite sentile since they give 15% haste.
You turned shen from being a very good pet into being another useless pet for hb, it has no damage boost %. The plan was to use shen for hb and open the pet that gives 35% damage bonus with its passive attacks. It works well because Im sure that the 35% damage isn't stacking so that makes sense to do. Using a nonstack dmg hb with the 35% damage boost passive is useful but not ideally what you would want since it would only be a 10-15% dmg boost.
So really our only good setup is Arc Sentile HB + the 35% damage pet passive+ heroic tadthep arc ability.
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gobbels
01-27-2022, 03:02 PM
not even op, we need 40%haste pet :)

Cinco
01-27-2022, 03:02 PM
The 25% constant Haste was too OP.

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01-27-2022, 03:05 PM
The 25% constant Haste was too OP.
Can we do a 20% haste? Its probably the max limit to do on a pet I guess. Or change its hb to something useful for war like (16% haste, 23% damage stacking, 18% damage reduction stacking, + 40 dex int str, + 55 primary stat.)
Allows us to use the 35% passive damage pet, allows us to attack faster, allows us to resist more damage *warrior class* allows us to have a good +str bonus.

Cinco
01-27-2022, 03:06 PM
Can we do a 20% haste? Its probably the max limit to do on a pet I guess. Or change its hb to something useful for war like (16% haste, 23% damage stacking, 18% damage reduction stacking, + 40 dex int str, + 55 primary stat.)

We'll be doing a +15% sustained Haste with this pet.

kulldeepboro
01-27-2022, 03:09 PM
We'll be doing a +15% sustained Haste with this pet.meh

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01-27-2022, 03:09 PM
We'll be doing a +15% sustained Haste with this pet.
Ok ok, 15% haste with the other stats sir sir?
Rogue gets arc lovling as a maxed out pet with absolutely everything a rogue needs. Crit, damage stack, damage reduct stack, and mana ignore.
Mage gets many pet variations based on its type of game play.
Warrior gets 0 actually warrior type pets. By warrior type I mean: Dmg stacking, Dmg redu stacking, haste, and crit chance.

Ploid
01-27-2022, 05:36 PM
Ok ok, 15% haste with the other stats sir sir?
Rogue gets arc lovling as a maxed out pet with absolutely everything a rogue needs. Crit, damage stack, damage reduct stack, and mana ignore.
Mage gets many pet variations based on its type of game play.
Warrior gets 0 actually warrior type pets. By warrior type I mean: Dmg stacking, Dmg redu stacking, haste, and crit chance.Not rlly, Mages have Arc Senti for Haste or Yinshe for BD, not many run Arc Loveling for damage reduction from what I know.

Warriors have the same choices as everyone else.



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Nexior
01-27-2022, 05:51 PM
We'll be doing a +15% sustained Haste with this pet.So if we stay with 15% add 30% non stacking dmg..

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01-27-2022, 06:10 PM
Not rlly, Mages have Arc Senti for Haste or Yinshe for BD, not many run Arc Loveling for damage reduction from what I know.

Warriors have the same choices as everyone else.



Sent from my GM1913 using TapatalkYou didn't read what I said. Rogue -> arc love.
Mage many pets optional.
Warrior 2 haste pets. Haste is what makes war actually useful.

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Kystone
01-27-2022, 07:48 PM
You didn't read what I said. Rogue -> arc love.
Mage many pets optional.
Warrior 2 haste pets. Haste is what makes war actually useful.

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Then use one of those 2 haste pets lol

Ploid
01-27-2022, 07:50 PM
You didn't read what I said. Rogue -> arc love.
Mage many pets optional.
Warrior 2 haste pets. Haste is what makes war actually useful.

Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-G891A using TapatalkIf a pet is already providing u with haste, why do u insist another pet does the same? U can already use the one u have.

Most people slot in the haste pet for their hb, so it's not like u don't like the way the pet looks.

Also, u can't be asking the best of every world in one single pet, at the end of the day, it's our decision to make what exactly we need for our playstyle!

If u wanna have haste = arc senti, if u wanna be more tanky = arc bemine/arc loveling... If u wanna have the maximum raw damage = arc Samson.

Having eveything in one pet would make every other pet that exists very boring and dull. As far as I remember, weren't u the one saying that pets should be unique?

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Switchback
01-27-2022, 08:03 PM
If a pet is already providing u with haste, why do u insist another pet does the same? U can already use the one u have.

Most people slot in the haste pet for their hb, so it's not like u don't like the way the pet looks.

Also, u can't be asking the best of every world in one single pet, at the end of the day, it's our decision to make what exactly we need for our playstyle!

If u wanna have haste = arc senti, if u wanna be more tanky = arc bemine/arc loveling... If u wanna have the maximum raw damage = arc Samson.

Having eveything in one pet would make every other pet that exists very boring and dull. As far as I remember, weren't u the one saying that pets should be unique?

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Let him live in dreamland. Thinking the gamebreaking pet hb that was suggested is even feasible goes to show you some people dont know what they are talking about.

championboost
01-27-2022, 08:26 PM
arc loveling is not the best pet for hb lol
there is many pets same or better than arc loveling

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01-27-2022, 08:38 PM
Sigh. Again, no one ever listens/understands anything I say.
Like am I describing things in a too complex way because I am told that I do that a lot. I am trying to explain things in the simplest way possible and yet still get misunderstood responses.

Ploid
01-27-2022, 08:45 PM
Sigh. Again, no one ever listens/understands anything I say.
Like am I describing things in a too complex way because I am told that I do that a lot. I am trying to explain things in the simplest way possible and yet still get misunderstood responses.From what I read, it seems ur asking a pet to give haste, stacking damage, and damage reduction on the same pet?

Haste, and damage reduction on the same pet would be understandable, but all 3 should never be on one same pet.

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snakeeyes
01-27-2022, 09:04 PM
We'll be doing a +15% sustained Haste with this pet.

Hope the remove 10% haste exchange with 30% boss damage. XD

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01-27-2022, 09:22 PM
From what I read, it seems ur asking a pet to give haste, stacking damage, and damage reduction on the same pet?

Haste, and damage reduction on the same pet would be understandable, but all 3 should never be on one same pet.

Sent from my GM1913 using TapatalkRogue has mana ignore, damage reduction stacking, 85+ dex stat, damage % stacking, and crit chance in 1 pet which is every stat a rogue needs in pve and pvp. Rogs do not need haste since their attacks are a 2s cd.
Mage doesn't have its all in 1 pet neither does war, but mages are able to use a big variety of pets based on its build and skills. Mage is the most diverse class atm and thats very good.
In order to be an efficient lv 81 warrior with doz axe / neptaris you need haste. I have tested everything and haste beats it all.
I have tested 200+bd with no haste with the same damage as 0bd with haste and haste won on a boss that is.
I tested super high dmg stat without haste vs lower dmg stat with haste- haste won.
I've even tested max crit with 1700 str 0 haste vs 1700 str with haste but low crit chance. Haste won. I have also tested many other things.
This isn't a 1 time test with each, I sat and tested each multiple times for hrs. I am just pointing out the facts here, even in pvp you can't win a 1v1 without haste because you as a warrior can't do a lot of damage at once so you have to rotate jug horn aa shield perfectly in order to survive being nuked by a rog or mage.
I always say stuff that sounds incorrect or impossible but always in the end prove those things to be correct and possible. I test and do stuff all the time in silence, ppl think I don't know how to play this game or think I am some idiot.
Heres why haste wins. 0% haste on sword proc is 4-5 attacks, 15% haste is 5-6 attacks, 35% haste is 7-9 attacks. 1 attack is a range of 150k-1m damage depending on what you are fighting, haste also allows you to proc either your sword or aegis faster because you are able to attack faster. You can never have to worry about being stunned or slowed with haste if you proc doz axe and charge juggernaut and have a 15% haste pet on. Jug will recover as it runs out so you can reuse it. Sts has not made warrior or rog a diverse class like mage, so we are stuck with what is the 1 best option.
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Ploid
01-27-2022, 09:55 PM
Rogue has mana ignore, damage reduction stacking, 85+ dex stat, damage % stacking, and crit chance in 1 pet which is every stat a rogue needs in pve and pvp. Rogs do not need haste since their attacks are a 2s cd.
Mage doesn't have its all in 1 pet neither does war, but mages are able to use a big variety of pets based on its build and skills. Mage is the most diverse class atm and thats very good.
In order to be an efficient lv 81 warrior with doz axe / neptaris you need haste. I have tested everything and haste beats it all.
I have tested 200+bd with no haste with the same damage as 0bd with haste and haste won on a boss that is.
I tested super high dmg stat without haste vs lower dmg stat with haste- haste won.
I've even tested max crit with 1700 str 0 haste vs 1700 str with haste but low crit chance. Haste won. I have also tested many other things.
This isn't a 1 time test with each, I sat and tested each multiple times for hrs. I am just pointing out the facts here, even in pvp you can't win a 1v1 without haste because you as a warrior can't do a lot of damage at once so you have to rotate jug horn aa shield perfectly in order to survive being nuked by a rog or mage.
I always say stuff that sounds incorrect or impossible but always in the end prove those things to be correct and possible. I test and do stuff all the time in silence, ppl think I don't know how to play this game or think I am some idiot.
Heres why haste wins. 0% haste on sword proc is 4-5 attacks, 15% haste is 5-6 attacks, 35% haste is 7-9 attacks. 1 attack is a range of 150k-1m damage depending on what you are fighting, haste also allows you to proc either your sword or aegis faster because you are able to attack faster. You can never have to worry about being stunned or slowed with haste if you proc doz axe and charge juggernaut and have a 15% haste pet on. Jug will recover as it runs out so you can reuse it. Sts has not made warrior or rog a diverse class like mage, so we are stuck with what is the 1 best option.
Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-G891A using TapatalkArc Loveling's main stats are Stacking Damage Reduction and Damage, the other stats only slightly matter. Crit may be good, but most rog can easily get 100%crit provided that aimed shot gives 20%crit by itself.

Again, IMO, 2 of the "op" stats are good together, but it should never be all 3 in one. It'd be understandable if you were asking for Stacking Damage Reduction + Haste in a single pet, but having all 3 in one is game-breaking as it would singlehandedly become the best pet in every situation!

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Kystone
01-27-2022, 10:11 PM
Rogue has mana ignore, damage reduction stacking, 85+ dex stat, damage % stacking, and crit chance in 1 pet which is every stat a rogue needs in pve and pvp. Rogs do not need haste since their attacks are a 2s cd.
Mage doesn't have its all in 1 pet neither does war, but mages are able to use a big variety of pets based on its build and skills. Mage is the most diverse class atm and thats very good.
In order to be an efficient lv 81 warrior with doz axe / neptaris you need haste. I have tested everything and haste beats it all.
I have tested 200+bd with no haste with the same damage as 0bd with haste and haste won on a boss that is.
I tested super high dmg stat without haste vs lower dmg stat with haste- haste won.
I've even tested max crit with 1700 str 0 haste vs 1700 str with haste but low crit chance. Haste won. I have also tested many other things.
This isn't a 1 time test with each, I sat and tested each multiple times for hrs. I am just pointing out the facts here, even in pvp you can't win a 1v1 without haste because you as a warrior can't do a lot of damage at once so you have to rotate jug horn aa shield perfectly in order to survive being nuked by a rog or mage.
I always say stuff that sounds incorrect or impossible but always in the end prove those things to be correct and possible. I test and do stuff all the time in silence, ppl think I don't know how to play this game or think I am some idiot.
Heres why haste wins. 0% haste on sword proc is 4-5 attacks, 15% haste is 5-6 attacks, 35% haste is 7-9 attacks. 1 attack is a range of 150k-1m damage depending on what you are fighting, haste also allows you to proc either your sword or aegis faster because you are able to attack faster. You can never have to worry about being stunned or slowed with haste if you proc doz axe and charge juggernaut and have a 15% haste pet on. Jug will recover as it runs out so you can reuse it. Sts has not made warrior or rog a diverse class like mage, so we are stuck with what is the 1 best option.
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Ok so then use the pets that give haste, idk what you’re trying to prove

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01-27-2022, 10:19 PM
Ok so then use the pets that give haste, idk what you’re trying to proveThe only reason you are here posting is to try and instigate.
Justin incase you didn't know, its a bad idea so you might want to try going to the beach to watch the ocean waves.
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IExposedYou
01-27-2022, 10:31 PM
Just wait for another release of pet. Cinco said this pet has 15% haste. Maybe next pet or the pet after that has stat combo you might like

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01-27-2022, 10:42 PM
Just wait for another release of pet. Cinco said this pet has 15% haste. Maybe next pet or the pet after that has stat combo you might likeI really hope so, I want sts to start making classes more diverse. Each class should be open to more skills, strategy, and unique weapons. I want arcanes to make it where haste on a warrior is no longer needed due to their certain proc or ability. I don't want them to be extremely op but sts needs to start making the game harder and more open to skill / weapon / gear / pet usage.

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BaronB
01-27-2022, 11:00 PM
Anyone ever considered running with a mage who has Energize ultimate skill in a party if concerned with haste?

Be like running with 2 pets at once...

I mean... just a thought...

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01-27-2022, 11:11 PM
Anyone ever considered running with a mage who has Energize ultimate skill in a party if concerned with haste?

Be like running with 2 pets at once...

I mean... just a thought...

Omg I never thought about that!! Thats such an op combo for rahabkor and mech and ekenta and even in hydra and orrick and especially in the other maps when you can already kill the bosses in seconds due to the 6x str ult you have. That energize is so helpful, but sadly most mages don't use it due to them using metor with the 81 staff and eb vest proc combo to almost 1 shot any boss.
Sarcasm is my thing sir.

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perdanaislam
01-27-2022, 11:44 PM
We need op pet on cap 81..
I think for now arc sentinel more than lei shen..

For desain pet is good.. v
Stat pet is bad.. x
Wee need op dmg for new map lol...
Remove gl or speed stack and add 30%dmg

Thanks

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Aldous
01-28-2022, 12:42 AM
Oh cut the crap, just say that you want Warrior meta back. You keep using that Rogues have Arcanite Loveling "omg such a perfect rogue pet yadda yadda yadda" argument but you know damn well that 25% mana ignore/15%crit buff is pretty much negligible in both endgame PvE and PvP aspects. We use Arcanite Loveling for the same reason that you do, not for these useless stats.

You make it seem like Warriors are still useless with already existing haste pets but last time I checked Warriors can already nuke everything. What more could you possibly want?

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01-28-2022, 12:43 AM
Oh cut the crap, just say that you want Warrior meta back. You keep using that Rogues have Arcanite Loveling "omg such a perfect rogue pet yadda yadda yadda" argument but you know damn well that 25% mana ignore/15%crit buff is pretty much negligible in both endgame PvE and PvP aspects. We use Arcanite Loveling for the same reason that you do, not for these useless stats.

You make it seem like Warriors are still useless with already existing haste pets but last time I checked Warriors can already nuke everything. What more could you possibly want?More give more power to warriors.
I want to see the Blood of my foes drip, from open wounds though.
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comingsoon
01-28-2022, 12:52 AM
The 25% constant Haste was too OP.add stacking %damage

Repent
01-28-2022, 12:53 AM
More give more power to warriors.

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I agree with encryp, suck it rogs

whatwasit
01-28-2022, 01:03 AM
Hahahahaha, "poor" warriors won't have endless jugg in pvp, so sad for u :'(

Crocodile
01-28-2022, 01:07 AM
We'll be doing a +15% sustained Haste with this pet.Lame

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Aldous
01-28-2022, 01:12 AM
More give more power to warriors.

Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-G891A using TapatalkSee... this is why we cant have nice things in AL, balance is never enough for you and your squad of dooshcanoes.

Encryptions
01-28-2022, 01:14 AM
See... this is why we cant have nice things in AL, balance is never enough for you and your squad of dooshcanoes.Yes me and my squad of men want to 1 shot everything in AL.
Like haven't you seen mages and rogs?? I want to be as strong as they are vs mobs.
Warrior rights movement! Equal rights.

Repent
01-28-2022, 01:38 AM
See... this is why we cant have nice things in AL, balance is never enough for you and your squad of dooshcanoes.

weak rog cry on forums, strong rog agree with encryp.

You must be weak rog

Nexior
01-28-2022, 01:40 AM
Yes us group of men want to 1 shot everything in AL.
Like haven't you seen mages and rogs?? I want to be as strong as they are vs mobs.
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Encryptions
01-28-2022, 01:44 AM
Wait wait 10% haste dont let u be stronger against mobs... I seen 76 cap enough


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Uereazagr
01-28-2022, 01:45 AM
Wow, some of you are so petty, you’re really gonna attack a person for just being mad that one pet’s stat(released later) can’t compete with other two haste pets’ stats, since when trying to fix something is an act to be trashtalked for?

Repent
01-28-2022, 01:45 AM
Wait wait 10% haste dont let u be stronger against mobs... I seen 76 cap enough


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Smooth brains

Oawaoebi
01-28-2022, 03:54 AM
Without reading all that.. : I guess what most people forgot is that warrior has the slowest hitspeed. When a warrior makes 2 charged attacks a rog can do almost 2. 2 charged hits for rog are 3.2 sec. For mage 3.5 and for warrior 4 sec. ( tested with phone timer so measurement incurrence). Warriors hit speed is slower. Means they have less power. 5 sec Proc you get 2-3 charged attacks and a rog 3-5 (didn’t test that). Now a warrior has not much crit mans the dmg dealt is probably lower. Bla bla bla… haste doesn’t affect based attack bla bla bla…
I can fully understand why he is complaining. Hit speed in general is low and crit also. Warriors are there for tanking let rogs do the kill job and mage support the rog and the war. Play as a team how the game was originally designed.

Uereazagr
01-28-2022, 06:21 AM
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Encryptions
01-28-2022, 08:19 AM
Warriors are there for tanking let rogs do the kill job and mage support the rog and the war. Play as a team how the game was originally designed.

I can sure tank rahabkors all 1 hit ko attacks, and mechs 1 hit ko reflect and ekentas 1 hit ko reflect and stand in a group of mobs dealing little to no damage while losing 75% of my 30k hp each second I can tank that 1 shot suicide bomber. I can sure win a pvp match when a rogs mythic bow aim shots me for 28k damage as I have 10k armor and 30k hp no debuffs on.
What is there to actually tank?
Tank has never been a thing in AL. Everyone would go to rogue class if the game was setup like this because people want pve and pvp kills for many reasons.

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Repent
01-28-2022, 10:57 AM
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last head is rog players irl

Kystone
01-28-2022, 12:45 PM
The only reason you are here posting is to try and instigate.
Justin incase you didn't know, its a bad idea so you might want to try going to the beach to watch the ocean waves.
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Ok but like just use a pet that gives haste instead of crying about it

Cinco
01-28-2022, 12:58 PM
We appreciate the feedback.

Closing to avert continued drama.