Romney vs. Obama

[Rauekat]

Ok so this thread is to discuss the political race for president in the USA. Everybody has there reasons to vote for whoever they choose. No need to share if your reasons on why u picked that candidate, but post who u want and who u think is going to become the next president. You can share reasons if u choose, post links ect. PLEASE NO HATING EVERYBODY HAS THEIR OWN OPINION.

[Cahaun]

As my opinion, I believe Romney will make a better candidate for the presidency. His moral is good and has enough experience to get lots of problems done.

Edit: Here's a link to a wiki about him. I always think that we should all study the candidates before choosing. Kinda like choosing what to eat for dinner. (Small joke. Haha -_-)
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mitt_Romney

[Rauekat]

As my opinion, I believe Romney will make a better candidate for the presidency. His moral is good and has enough experience to get lots of problems done.

Edit: Here's a link to a wiki about him. I always think that we should all study the candidates before choosing. Kinda like choosing what to eat for dinner. (Small joke. Haha -_-)
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mitt_Romney

i too am voting for Romney. Some of your reasons plus he would make a great president....not a tyrant like Obama.

[Cahaun]

If he can get many companies and the Olympics 2002 issue out of debt problems, I'd vote for him. Luckily for us, he did! ^_^

[Lowlyspy]

i too am voting for Romney. Some of your reasons plus he would make a great president....not a tyrant like Obama.
Rau, as much as i don't like Obama's policies, he has done nothing for you to call him a tyrant. He is no where close to being a tyrannical leader, if you want a tyrannical leader look to Mao, Il, or Quadaffi.

However, i do not see Obama as being the prime choice for this country as per his past performance and other than taking out the FBI's #1 most wanted man (Osama), he has achieved nothing that would warrant a second term.

Idk if we should have this discussion btw, tbh i don't trust that 3/4 of the forums could handle a political debate without it spiraling into a flame fest.

[Xionskull]

i too am voting for Romney. Some of your reasons plus he would make a great president....not a tyrant like Obama.
Rau, as much as i don't like Obama's policies, he has done nothing for you to call him a tyrant. He is no where close to being a tyrannical leader, if you want a tyrannical leader look to Mao, Il, or Quadaffi.

However, i do not see Obama as being the prime choice for this country as per his past performance and other than taking out the FBI's #1 most wanted man (Osama), he has achieved nothing that would warrant a second term.

Idk if we should have this discussion btw, tbh i don't trust that 3/4 of the forums could handle a political debate without it spiraling into a flame fest.

He's a communist lol! Obama care is over controlling government! Obama care literally forces people to have health insurance! Oh no!


Luckily...

Day 1. MIT rom says he will repeal obama care! *woot* *whistles* ^^

[razerfingers]

As for my opinion,i believe this is bad idea for a thread cause you never know who is into politics and may say things thwy dont mean o.O you dig.? Well thats mine on this topic. :)

Sent using spray paint from a "can"

[Zaonabiuibil]

Romney. Nuff said.

[NECROREAPER]

Political/religious discussion is against the forum rules FYI.

I understand this is starting off as friendly conversation/argument but it will eventually turn into a flame war

[Aracnus]

i'm with zao, Romney is gonna get it! NO DOUBT ABOUT IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Ardon]

There are things that kinda bring about drama in threads

1. Religion
2. Android vs. IOS
3. Xbox vs. PS
4. Politics

[Lowlyspy]

There are things that kinda bring about drama in threads

1. Religion
2. Android vs. IOS
3. Xbox vs. PS
4. Politics

5. Canadian bacon: Bacon or Sliced Ham? (Sliced Ham.)

[Suentous PO]

Agreed but now religion threads are non taboo so who knows one way to find out.

"loyalty to country, always. Loyalty to govt., when they deserve it. "
Twain

[Cahaun]

We can't always say that a thread is doomed from the beginning. It's how we all choose what to do that determines its fate. Let's all just listen to the thread rule and just post our opinions while respecting others' too.

[Cahaun]

Agreed but now religion threads are non taboo so who knows one way to find out.

"loyalty to country, always. Loyalty to govt., when they deserve it. "
Twain
Great quote

[Phoenixking]

5. Canadian bacon: Bacon or Sliced Ham? (Sliced Ham.)
6. PvP

[DawnInfinity]

I would vote for Obama if I could vote, but I turn 18 in December.

[Cahaun]

5. Canadian bacon: Bacon or Sliced Ham? (Sliced Ham.)
6. PvP
7. Scams

[ImHawk]

Argh... Had enuff politics in school..
Don't bring it here >.<

[Xionskull]

Lol no one challenged me when I said Obama was a communist! Yay! ^^

[Rauekat]

He's a communist lol! Obama care is over controlling government! Obama care literally forces people to have health insurance! Oh no!


Luckily...

Day 1. MIT rom says he will repeal obama care! *woot* *whistles* ^^

my point he is FORCING people to buy health insurance. It is against our constitution to force people to do something. Tyrants are known to force people to do what they want. Obama is forcing us to be something some of us dont want.

[Rauekat]

Political/religious discussion is against the forum rules FYI.

I understand this is starting off as friendly conversation/argument but it will eventually turn into a flame war

oops well try not to flame guys just add your opinion reply to other people but dont start a war. Remember personal opinions of different people no need to fight.

[Walkhardd]

Without going into it too much, if mitt is my president, theres a good chance I'm moving to canada.

[ImHawk]

Without going into it too much, if mitt is my president, theres a good chance I'm moving to canada.
Lolz.. Yes come brah...
I live in Canada and its epic and chill xD

[Otukura]

my point he is FORCING people to buy health insurance. It is against our constitution to force people to do something. Tyrants are known to force people to do what they want. Obama is forcing us to be something some of us dont want.
Obama's health care is based on Romney's. Romney's forced people to do that, he ran for president, and immediately changed his stance. I really like people who do 180s.

Without going into it too much, if mitt is my president, theres a good chance I'm moving to canada.
I'm out of thanks :s

[Suentous PO]

Without going into it too much, if mitt is my president, theres a good chance I'm moving to canada.
Lol, when Cali elected ahnold I went to OR.

[Lavalamp]

This will be my first presidential vote! I do like the direction Obama is going we have gotten more jobs (not enough though) seeks like we are going in the right direction( not quick enough though). With that said I will be voting for Mit Romney, I believe we need a new change and though we have been getting better as a country, but not good enough. And everyone knows if a republican screws up( george w bush) then most likely a democrat will be next president. So as of right now I am voting for Romney love what I have seen so far. This is just my opinionand not meant to degrade anyone especially Obama I personally think he is a good president the thing is we need a great one right now and I believe Romney can lead us towards that :)

[Phoenixking]

Yeah I think Obama was a OK president but he didn't do much, some say it's because one part of the government (I don't know which I forgot) wanted to see Obama "fail" basicly playing a little political game, I saw this in one article from a class that taught about events going on know and how people react to it
I'm just saying its what I heard don't come at me

[Airity]

He's a communist lol! Obama care is over controlling government! Obama care literally forces people to have health insurance! Oh no!


Luckily...

Day 1. MIT rom says he will repeal obama care! *woot* *whistles* ^^


Do you know how many people die each year because they can't afford health care? I'm no communist but I believe in the common good. I'd rather have a bit of my salary taken off each year to help those who need it rather than let them whither.

[Aaroniero Arruruerie]

So many contrarians... Popular vote speaks for Obama... But you'd side with Romney because.... *insert answer here*...Instead of hating on both sides, why don't some of us get our heads out of our rear ends and look at the qualities each one of them have. Now, I don't know everything about them, but I will comment according to what I've observed so far

Romney:
Elitist
Good with business
Greedy
All in all, he would be a good candidate if the economy wasn't such an issue. For someone who can be so good at business, he's awfully dodgy with taxes.

Obama::
Liberal
Rash
Eager to please
Charismatic

Obama is still young compared to the other presidents. He's more open to ideas, and with the liberal mark on him, he's a lot more loosehanded with welfare and healthcare. His rashness however, was what enabled Osama Bin Laden's death. Proven by testimonies of him being the only one in the room with his top advisors to make the call.


I may sound a bit one-sided, but what I've seen so far, Romney appeals to one specific side of the economic section, while Obama attempts to make that SAME side give a bit more to the economy... you know, try sweetening the pot.

[Zraorizer]

I say romney because obama is making people that are not from USA to leave.its happening in Arizona next thing u know its gonna happen to all states.

[Lowlyspy]

I say romney because obama is making people that are not from USA to leave.its happening in Arizona next thing u know its gonna happen to all states.
Note: I am with you on Romney.

Are you referring to illegal immigrants? If so, why should they be allowed to stay? In coming to the US illegally they are automatically breaking US federal law.

[LookBehindMe]

Without going into it too much, if mitt is my president, theres a good chance I'm moving to canada.

Why? For the free meds?

Lol jk.

And a side note most ppl that posted for Obama are under 18.
I kinda think that the school systems are just a little to pushy in that area.
Being home schooled I have
been raised with a open mind. I'd I could vote I would be going for Ron Paul.

Btw I'm 16.

[Ardon]

I say romney because obama is making people that are not from USA to leave.its happening in Arizona next thing u know its gonna happen to all states.

Arizona is doing that.

Illegal immigration is a fragile topic. Living here in Az as a Hispanic I know first hand how hard illegal immigrants work for their families. They sacrifice loads for their family. Yes, they broke the law by entering illegally, but wouldn't you move to this great country if yours was filled with drug cartels killing people all the time? There are murders every day by cartels in Mexico. People there celebrate when there are no deaths in a day. That is tragic.

Illegal immigrants should be able to become citizens here. But not all, have only law abiding ones here. Kick out all the ones who have committed felonies.

[Ardon]

Ron Paul would be my pick if he won the Republican nomination. Since he didn't I'll be voting for Obama since he is the lesser evil between Romney and him

[LookBehindMe]

You could write him in. :)

[Ardon]

You could write him in. :)

Unfortunately I'm pretty sure he won't win by write in. Let's be real, The majority will vote for either Romney or Obama lol

[Lowlyspy]

Arizona is doing that.

Illegal immigration is a fragile topic. Living here in Az as a Hispanic I know first hand how hard illegal immigrants work for their families. They sacrifice loads for their family. Yes, they broke the law by entering illegally, but wouldn't you move to this great country if yours was filled with drug cartels killing people all the time? There are murders every day by cartels in Mexico. People there celebrate when there are no deaths in a day. That is tragic.

Illegal immigrants should be able to become citizens here. But not all, have only law abiding ones here. Kick out all the ones who have committed felonies.

I'll agree that those working hard and abiding by the law are admirable, however, there is a legal way to get to the US and a way to become a citizen. You would be surprised how many illegal immigrants just don't bother to apply for citizenship though. For example the month that Ronald Reagan gave for all illegal immigrants to come forward and they would instantly be granted full citizenship, <10% of all known illegal immigrants came forward.

[Zraorizer]

Arizona is doing that.

Illegal immigration is a fragile topic. Living here in Az as a Hispanic I know first hand how hard illegal immigrants work for their families. They sacrifice loads for their family. Yes, they broke the law by entering illegally, but wouldn't you move to this great country if yours was filled with drug cartels killing people all the time? There are murders every day by cartels in Mexico. People there celebrate when there are no deaths in a day. That is tragic.

Illegal immigrants should be able to become citizens here. But not all, have only law abiding ones here. Kick out all the ones who have committed felonies.

Exactly but not all my family are from Mexico im from US id hate to see us get apart Mexico is violent but US is safe where i am

[Kixxler]

Obama, he has personal merchandise and mini-games based on his animated experiences.

[Aaroniero Arruruerie]

Republicans are owned by big business who have no need for public schools. It's not a lucrative business. All their children go to private schools, not to mention the state of these schools have de"crap"idated into the suckiest levels in a long time. Honestly its like Brown V. Board except the segregation is between private and public.

[plmafiaboss]

Lol no one challenged me when I said Obama was a communist! Yay! ^^cuz he iz of course :p

[Lowlyspy]

Republicans are owned by big business who have no need for public schools. It's not a lucrative business. All their children go to private schools, not to mention the state of these schools have de"crap"idated into the suckiest levels in a long time. Honestly its like Brown V. Board except the segregation is between private and public.
Being a republican, i will tell you that we are not owned by big business, we actually promote small business more considering they are the source of most jobs inside the US. Large corporations mainly focus on outsourcing because labor is cheaper (hence the reason 3/4 of everything you see will say "made in (insert foreign country name here)", made in america items are becoming a commodity more than anything).

So if you are going to make such wild accusations, i would suggest getting your facts straight.

Also, i just graduated high school after 12 (13 including Kindergarten) long grueling years of hard work. The reason there are so few republicans in public school is because, although the public school system would not like to admit it nor are they legally allowed to, public schools are heavily influencing kids to be democrats throughout their entire public school career.

[Phoenixking]

Being a republican, i will tell you that we are not owned by big business, we actually promote small business more considering they are the source of most jobs inside the US. Large corporations mainly focus on outsourcing because labor is cheaper (hence the reason 3/4 of everything you see will say "made in (insert foreign country name here)", made in america items are becoming a commodity more than anything).

So if you are going to make such wild accusations, i would suggest getting your facts straight.

Also, i just graduated high school after 12 (13 including Kindergarten) long grueling years of hard work. The reason there are so few republicans in public school is because, although the public school system would not like to admit it nor are they legally allowed to, public schools are heavily influencing kids to be democrats throughout their entire public school career.
I believe you in that, that one class I had about the events going on today made democrats look better

[lilgangster]

3rd party ftw lol jk but I do feel like I should say something concerning the illegal immigrant subject (only 14 n hispanic so prob not the best person for this :p) only thing I wanna say is yes alot of ppl come here illegally BUT I feel if they would only make it easier. no I dnt mean as easy as some ppl will think but with me being legal n some relatives in the process, thts jst my thought

[Urqui]

Obama, he has personal merchandise and mini-games based on his animated experiences.

Obama just seems like a really cool person.
Also has his own meme;)

[saool]

IB4L!!! Threads like these get hella crazy...
Anywho idk yet who I'm voting for lol

[Cahaun]

IB4L!!! Threads like these get hella crazy...
Anywho idk yet who I'm voting for lol
No IB4L! This thread is doing good so far! No flaming yet.
Now for Romney's ideas being behind Obama's healthcare plan idk but it has Obamas's name on it! :p

[Rauekat]

Note: I am with you on Romney.

Are you referring to illegal immigrants? If so, why should they be allowed to stay? In coming to the US illegally they are automatically breaking US federal law.

ya it is against our constitution to ILEGALLY take in immigrants. He ignores the constitution, doesnt read bills, and a lot of other ignorant stuff.

[Rauekat]

Arizona is doing that.

Illegal immigration is a fragile topic. Living here in Az as a Hispanic I know first hand how hard illegal immigrants work for their families. They sacrifice loads for their family. Yes, they broke the law by entering illegally, but wouldn't you move to this great country if yours was filled with drug cartels killing people all the time? There are murders every day by cartels in Mexico. People there celebrate when there are no deaths in a day. That is tragic.

Illegal immigrants should be able to become citizens here. But not all, have only law abiding ones here. Kick out all the ones who have committed felonies.

ok i agree that they should be able to become citizens here. But some of these illegals are voting without a license, driving without a license, and some carrry drugs. There is also a legal way to enter our country, but people don't take the time to do it.
nothing aginst mexicans, because i am one. ;)

[Rauekat]

Ron Paul would be my pick if he won the Republican nomination. Since he didn't I'll be voting for Obama since he is the lesser evil between Romney and him

Why is Romney "more evil" than Obama?

[Ardon]

Ok so this thread is to discuss the political race for president in the USA. Everybody has there reasons to vote for whoever they choose. No need to share if your reasons on why u picked that candidate, but post who u want and who u think is going to become the next president. You can share reasons if u choose, post links ect. PLEASE NO HATING EVERYBODY HAS THEIR OWN OPINION.


Why is Romney "more evil" than Obama?

Don't feel the need to share my reasons

[Rauekat]

Don't feel the need to share my reasons

kk just wondering no need to ;)

[Aaroniero Arruruerie]

Being a republican, i will tell you that we are not owned by big business, we actually promote small business more considering they are the source of most jobs inside the US. Large corporations mainly focus on outsourcing because labor is cheaper (hence the reason 3/4 of everything you see will say "made in (insert foreign country name here)", made in america items are becoming a commodity more than anything).

So if you are going to make such wild accusations, i would suggest getting your facts straight.

Also, i just graduated high school after 12 (13 including Kindergarten) long grueling years of hard work. The reason there are so few republicans in public school is because, although the public school system would not like to admit it nor are they legally allowed to, public schools are heavily influencing kids to be democrats throughout their entire public school career.


It could be because I just graduated high school a few weeks ago, maybe brainwashed in the process, or the fact that my republican governor is literally sucking the lifeblood out of the state, to the point where the public schools rarely see any of the money that was meant for new resources. But honestly, the majority of republicans you see on television are usually trying to bash Obama, no matter what he does. and I don't even wanna talk about the border policy, because republicans have been pushing for that even during bush times, so DON'T even try to put Obama on the spot for that. That's just stupid.

Everyone: Osama got killed!
Republicans: Big deal, we set out to find him
Everyone: The Economy is getting better
Republicans: Big deal, we were the ones who made it a priority.

Point is, no matter what was done under Obama's term, it was always somehow downplayed by the republicans. At this point I realize I shouldn't attack all republicans, since there actually are decent ones who believed in the original values, but these days, both parties seem to be looking out for their own interests. Each wing has its own set of extremists, and lately it seems both far wings are getting more and more close to bumping uglies.

I still haven't decided upon a party yet, but I'm thinking about taking the Bloomberg route and just becoming an independent. Democrats have their own way of thinking, and so do republicans, all I know is CNN is too elitist and every republican I've met so far has the same mindset. Everyone has their own agenda and we're just being used as filler.

Sorry if I'm leaning towards the democratic side... Guess I'm just a product of my environment.

[Paladinslaya]

i too am voting for Romney. Some of your reasons plus he would make a great president....not a tyrant like Obama.

Me too, just because i hate obama

[Walkhardd]

Ron Paul would be my pick if he won the Republican nomination. Since he didn't I'll be voting for Obama since he is the lesser evil between Romney and him


EXACTLY how I feel.

I love how when voting for our president, we get to vote for the person who's "not as bad"

[Iphoneington]

i too am voting for Romney. Some of your reasons plus he would make a great president....not a tyrant like Obama. [/QUOTE]
Obama has done nothing to be called a tyrant. The policies are suggestible in my opinion on some but actually a few laws were not passed due to the fact that there are more republicans in the house. Since he is democratic,his ideas are turned down and he is tried to be presented as a "bad" president. Many people are saying they do not agree on Obama as president only because he is African American. With Romney on the other hand,I have nothing against him either. Although many say he would be the better candidate,he is contradicting himself from what he said back some years ago. There was a statement he disagreed on highly and now he is saying he agrees. I haven't been keeping up with the politics too much but this is my opinion.

[Urqui]

Omg=\ I don't think anybody should be called illegal. People leave their homes to find a better life for them and their families in America because it's a better country. Just like anywhere in the world where there are good and bad people. You dont have to discriminate.
Everyone is equal and it should NOT matter where they were born. Period.

[Rauekat]

i too am voting for Romney. Some of your reasons plus he would make a great president....not a tyrant like Obama.
Obama has done nothing to be called a tyrant. The policies are suggestible in my opinion on some but actually a few laws were not passed due to the fact that there are more republicans in the house. Since he is democratic,his ideas are turned down and he is tried to be presented as a "bad" president. Many people are saying they do not agree on Obama as president only because he is African American. With Romney on the other hand,I have nothing against him either. Although many say he would be the better candidate,he is contradicting himself from what he said back some years ago. There was a statement he disagreed on highly and now he is saying he agrees. I haven't been keeping up with the politics too much but this is my opinion.[/QUOTE]

well i could care less if he was white, black, mexican, chinese, i support all races. His policies are crooked. It might sound good that he gives to the poor, but money doesnt grow on trees. He takes this money from the rich those who work. This is not fair to the rich who work hard to provide and this creates a lazy society. Think about it. If I became poor the government would provide for me. I can sit on my bum all day and do anything i want. So these rich people want to quit their jobs and become poor so the government can provide for them. In Obama care there is some good things but also some bad things. A tyrant forces his/her country to do something they want. He is forcing us to buy health insurance. Some people who are young and healtyh do not want it and if they dont get it, they can be fined.

And also how many jobs is Obama making? Pretty high unemployment rate. He doesntt even read the bills he signs. One of the famous quotes from Nancy Pelosi is “We have to pass the bill so you can find out what is in it" What? are they crazy? and have u seen how muc debt he has racked up.... 15 trillion more than ALL the other presidents combined!

[Tvis]

Arizona is doing that.

Illegal immigration is a fragile topic. Living here in Az as a Hispanic I know first hand how hard illegal immigrants work for their families. They sacrifice loads for their family. Yes, they broke the law by entering illegally, but wouldn't you move to this great country if yours was filled with drug cartels killing people all the time? There are murders every day by cartels in Mexico. People there celebrate when there are no deaths in a day. That is tragic.

Illegal immigrants should be able to become citizens here. But not all, have only law abiding ones here. Kick out all the ones who have committed felonies.

Illegal immigrants need to follow legal procedure like everybody else. If a man works hard for his family and can't pay the bills, he can't just go rob a bank and get away with it because "he worked hard for his family." All people work hard to provide for the family. Robbing the bank would cost the innocent bank customers, like unto how moving into the U.s. illegally is costing the citizens by jobs and other means.

I have nothing against illegals and especially those looking for a better life, but there's a due process that must be done first. Just a matter, of personal opinion :)

[Tvis]

I don't consider myself Republican or Democrat. I vote dependent on factors such as: Did the last president do what he/she said he/she would do? What are each candidate's qualifications? What are their point of views? My vote is never set. Here's how I've assessed so far. Peace.

Obama is the highest taxing president in the history of the u.s. His obamacare bill has brought the U.S. closer to socialism than ever before by taking from the working class and giving to the non-working class. Why work if a large portion of my paycheck is going to the people who don't work!? I want my taxes going to schools and colleges to help higher the education of the country.

Create jobs to allow people to work. Handouts are unacceptable. Romney knows how to make money and has the skills to better the economy. Obama promised help and raising taxes isn't the right way to go. I'm giving Romney a chance to fix the economy and our country.

[saool]

*bounces up and down* oh the excitement I love politics...I usually vote for the one who well isn't republican... I'm part of the communist party. ;) jkjk

[Reddwing]

I wasn't going to comment on this thread, but I'm commenting by saying I'm not commenting, so technically I'm commenting. I'm not commenting on the actual topic since all politics urk me since its all so corrupt.

[Rauekat]

Obama had many broken promises that he never fulfilled. If the immigrantz want to move here they should go to the process of becoming an American citizen. They can't just barge in. We welcome other countries to become part of this GREAT USA!

[rinzler]

Hi, I'm closing this thread to prevent more flaming.