@ Devs: Spirit of the Deep gear, is it completely cancelled?

[yubaraj]

"Spirit of the Deep gear was originally planned to release with the expansion but .........Therefore we'll keep all the new 'Spirit' stuff under wraps 'til other power-related impacts of the expansion have settled."

Above quote is from the new expansion thread.

I kindly request for a clarification from devs whether it is completely out of picture or is it still coming?

We already have legendary and mythic for more than 3 months probably. Arcane is coming but how long will it take 3-4 months maybe. How many will probably able to get Arcane weapon/gear? Very few I believe.

I know spirit gear will be replaced with new Arcane, also Arcane will replace Mythic gears. So what is the point of not releasing spirit when it was already been designed.

I know there are flaws with spirit gears and will not be as good as Arcane. At least I may not have to pay 100+ mil for the new arcane or maybe I wont be able to afford it until next year. Until then give us something that the poor player like me can obtain cheaper and make it better with hard work farming kills for our new spirit gear.

In addition, Isn't the set items suppose to be in the middle if not better than mythic? I am curious how it can be useful after the release of Arcane.

Also, I am hoping Deep spirit set won't meet a fate that happened with promised banished weapon in the past.

Thank you for your kind attention.

[Nexior]

Same keep waiting, also i hope in max level proc chance would be 100% regarding all ppl who spend 10000hours and 10000 plat to grind last spirit weps to max level with no diffrents in the end( to small to notice) . I feel really bad after months of grinding .. @asommers

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[snakeeyes]

Still waiting too for this spirit of the deep gear.

[terapan]

Yeah, still...
Keep waiting...
My feeling says, its realese on elite zodias event. Let's see...

[Yoloswagx]

hopefully this spirit gear will b better than mythic..if not then..elite zodias will b a disaster for spirit gear

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[Fearrr]

+1 More info on Spirit of The Deep Roadmap and Release Date.

[terapan]

hopefully this spirit gear will b better than mythic..if not then..elite zodias will b a disaster for spirit gear

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No, i think spirit gear is support item like before. Not op but fun to play.

[Fearrr]

Bump. Hopefully Spirit of The Deep Weapons and or 81 Arc Weapons Procs is AOE Damage type for War. Something more effective than Elite Skull Axe atm. I would be okay with Spirit of The Deep Weapon Procs having a Pull Mechanic also even though I have TB.

[yubaraj]

Thank you all for the support.

I do believe there must be ways to make it work, it may provide a middle ground where it can be used to mix/match and give us some variation than mindless tapping or maybe worth something in a group scenario.

Anyways, the concept behind spirit gears is kind of intriguing to me as we can level it up and make it stronger. Possibilities are endless.
Unlike spending hundreds/thousands of awake gems for the particular item which is totally luck based.

However, if there is no rework or just a same copy paste like the end/taint set then it will be really disappointing.

I do have a doubt but also hope that STS will bring it back as we will be waiting Arcane gears for several months.

Also, thankful for the team for taking a positive steps with taking any feedbacks with recent events.

Hopefully, the community can help too in this matter.

[Fearrr]

The Spirit idea is an amazing Concept. It has been done and used successfully in many games over the years. 1st time in AL just executed poorly. But not just that it was abandon and never made right…And it could of have been made right! So many are curious to see what happens with Spirit of The Deep Set and many are weary.

And I made this suggestion months ago and will bring it up again since I never really got any reply yes or no, which is fine. And I still think something like this would revive the Spirit Gear Green Section as well as the use and role of Spirit in this game in a good way:

Soul Stone and Spirit Convert System.

Soul Stone a new item that can drop from new 81 Bosses, X amount of Plat in Plat store, and or New Expansion Lock Crates. Soul Stone + Old Mythic/Arcane Weapon+ Spirit Convert Vendor can turn a old Mythic/Arcane into a Spirit Weapon. For example Frost Touched Bulwark will turn into Spirit Frost Touched Bulwark with green letters. Now all classes equally have the opportunity to use their favorite old Mythic/Arcane Weapon at Endgame and will scale to Endgame Content based on current Spirit Level. Old Mythic/Arcane Weapons will have different levels depending on what Level Cap they came out. And this can be every 5 or 10 Levels they scale. So simply the older the Mythic/Arcane the more Spirit Exp/Levels will be needed to rescale to current endgame content Proc/Base Stats Wise. Current Mythic/Arcane Weapons that are no longer obtainable can now be Boss drops in 81 Expansion. Now how far we should go back Level Cap wise that can be up to the Community/Devs to decide.

And the Soul Reaver Orb example I brought up in Announcement Section: For X amount of Plat in Plat Store Soul Reaver Orb gives: X amount of Normal XP %, X amount of Spirit XP %, X amount of Spirit Pet XP %, A Soul type of a Aura, and as long as The Soul Reaver Orb is in the Inventory…Spirit Gears/Weapons will gain XP for each Mob and Boss Kill without needing to be equipped in the Zones where we can Lvl up these Gears/Weapons. And this Orb will just sit in the Inventory only, like how the aspect of Undying Orb works.

[Ploid]

The Spirit idea is an amazing Concept. It has been done and used successfully in many games over the years. 1st time in AL just executed poorly. But not just that it was abandon and never made right…And it could of have been made right! So many are curious to see what happens with Spirit of The Deep Set and many are weary.

And I made this suggestion months ago and will bring it up again since I never really got any reply yes or no, which is fine. And I still think something like this would revive the Spirit Gear Green Section as well as the use and role of Spirit in this game in a good way:

Soul Stone and Spirit Convert System.

Soul Stone a new item that can drop from new 81 Bosses, X amount of Plat in Plat store, and or New Expansion Lock Crates. Soul Stone + Old Mythic/Arcane Weapon+ Spirit Convert Vendor can turn a old Mythic/Arcane into a Spirit Weapon. For example Frost Touched Bulwark will turn into Spirit Frost Touched Bulwark with green letters. Now all classes equally have the opportunity to use their favorite old Mythic/Arcane Weapon at Endgame and will scale to Endgame Content based on current Spirit Level. Old Mythic/Arcane Weapons will have different levels depending on what Level Cap they came out. And this can be every 5 or 10 Levels they scale. So simply the older the Mythic/Arcane the more Spirit Exp/Levels will be needed to rescale to current endgame content Proc/Base Stats Wise. Current Mythic/Arcane Weapons that are no longer obtainable can now be Boss drops in 81 Expansion. Now how far we should go back Level Cap wise that can be up to the Community/Devs to decide.

And the Soul Reaver Orb example I brought up in Announcement Section: For X amount of Plat in Plat Store Soul Reaver Orb gives: X amount of Normal XP %, X amount of Spirit XP %, X amount of Spirit Pet XP %, A Soul type of a Aura, and as long as The Soul Reaver Orb is in the Inventory…Spirit Gears/Weapons will gain XP for each Mob and Boss Kill without needing to be equipped in the Zones where we can Lvl up these Gears/Weapons. And this Orb will just sit in the Inventory only, like how the aspect of Undying Orb works.Loved the idea :D

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[Alkif]

I also hope they make spirit weapons gain exp in all maps, I tried leveling my daggers to 50 when they got released however gave up after getting like 200-300k pve kills, its just maindless grind for 3rd rate daggers.

[yubaraj]

The Spirit idea is an amazing Concept. It has been done and used successfully in many games over the years. 1st time in AL just executed poorly. But not just that it was abandon and never made right…And it could of have been made right! So many are curious to see what happens with Spirit of The Deep Set and many are weary.

And I made this suggestion months ago and will bring it up again since I never really got any reply yes or no, which is fine. And I still think something like this would revive the Spirit Gear Green Section as well as the use and role of Spirit in this game in a good way:

Soul Stone and Spirit Convert System.

Soul Stone a new item that can drop from new 81 Bosses, X amount of Plat in Plat store, and or New Expansion Lock Crates. Soul Stone + Old Mythic/Arcane Weapon+ Spirit Convert Vendor can turn a old Mythic/Arcane into a Spirit Weapon. For example Frost Touched Bulwark will turn into Spirit Frost Touched Bulwark with green letters. Now all classes equally have the opportunity to use their favorite old Mythic/Arcane Weapon at Endgame and will scale to Endgame Content based on current Spirit Level. Old Mythic/Arcane Weapons will have different levels depending on what Level Cap they came out. And this can be every 5 or 10 Levels they scale. So simply the older the Mythic/Arcane the more Spirit Exp/Levels will be needed to rescale to current endgame content Proc/Base Stats Wise. Current Mythic/Arcane Weapons that are no longer obtainable can now be Boss drops in 81 Expansion. Now how far we should go back Level Cap wise that can be up to the Community/Devs to decide.

And the Soul Reaver Orb example I brought up in Announcement Section: For X amount of Plat in Plat Store Soul Reaver Orb gives: X amount of Normal XP %, X amount of Spirit XP %, X amount of Spirit Pet XP %, A Soul type of a Aura, and as long as The Soul Reaver Orb is in the Inventory…Spirit Gears/Weapons will gain XP for each Mob and Boss Kill without needing to be equipped in the Zones where we can Lvl up these Gears/Weapons. And this Orb will just sit in the Inventory only, like how the aspect of Undying Orb works.

Interesting. Great ideas and suggestions.

Maybe you can put this in a suggestion section too.

Futu and Asommer are lurking in the suggestion section more than here probably. I hope they see it too.

[Fearrr]

Last thing. So if Post #10 sounds good by Sts and a go… A suggestion to help speed this Content Update up.

This is a big project because there is a lot of testing and scaling involved with the Old Mythic and Arcane Weapons, depending how far we go back Lvl Cap wise. An Event. A Beta Test Server with a Map Type similar to EVG Wave Style. In this Beta Test Server we can use any Sets we already have with Elixs Etc. So one Parameter could be testing Proc Scaling for a Mythic and or Arcane between each Lvl, 5, 10, and Maxed Proc at Endgame. In this Beta Test Server it records the damage dealt to Mobs, Mini Boss, and Main Boss each Wave for Sts to see. To make it more relaxing and one of my ideas Pre Swamp Temple Event and after was the Wave Style Map should have had the timer removed. Survival v.s Timer runs out would of have been so much more enjoyable. And you can step off to side and take a break if need be for Phone Call or Etc.

So Sts gets recorded ingame results each wave and also Feedback on Forum of certain Weapons and Etc from this Event. If this helps speeds this Project up and can be done before Elite Zodias Maps…Map Theme for this can be Hyperbolic Time Chamber 🤔

[yubaraj]

I know you Devs are busy but at least if you can just say 'Yes' or 'No' to spirit gears will be appreciated. Thanks.

Also, are we gonna get Arcane weapons sooner than expected as Elites coming early?

[championboost]

a month ago the devs said arcanes wont be coming until at least one year from now, so you can be pretty sure arcane weapons wont be here in the next few months

[Ploid]

a month ago the devs said arcanes wont be coming until at least one year from now, so you can be pretty sure arcane weapons wont be here in the next few monthsPretty sure dev said Arcanes are planned to be released in 2022

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[Xuds]

a month ago the devs said arcanes wont be coming until at least one year from now, so you can be pretty sure arcane weapons wont be here in the next few months.https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20220318/03cfea62283b9b18229e7f6e17336a85.jpg

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[yubaraj]

Lets see what Cinco/STS decides do about Arcane weapons/gears.

But there must be a reason they do not want to reveal anything about spirit gears.

I know nobody can make everyone happy.

Waiting .....

[Oakmaiden]

There was only one major problem imo, way to grindy to level them. I have all 3 pieces, ran the maps til mind numb set in. Other gears came into play... then they were useless. Once read in chatbox a new set was coming, instead they raised the level cap of the set. I don’t think a new set is coming or will be of any use before being outclassed by other gears. Oh and gear snobbery will exclude you from partying if you use it.

[Xyv.io]

There was only one major problem imo, way to grindy to level them. I have all 3 pieces, ran the maps til mind numb set in. Other gears came into play... then they were useless. Once read in chatbox a new set was coming, instead they raised the level cap of the set. I don’t think a new set is coming or will be of any use before being outclassed by other gears. Oh and gear snobbery will exclude you from partying if you use it.
The helm and armor were useless from the beginning anyway and also the lvl50-60 grind for absolutely negligible stat buff lol... Devs having rough time making simple decisions

[Fearrr]

On 3/17/22 1:30pm Post # 4 in "Few ideas to make game more entertaining" Suggestion Thread Asommers replied this:

All great points and these are already on the list:

New equipment is coming w/ Elite Zodias.
Player-hand-holding and knowing what do to at all times is something we need to do to keep new players when we start advertising.
We've talked internally about skill revamp (w/ trees), may coincide w/ item above.
Lastly game rebalance is one of our major initiatives this quarter, also coincides w/ items above.


-ALS

Now if Lvl 81 Arcane is planned for Post Elite Zodias Maps then the new equipment being added is most likely Spirit of The Deep Set. That's my theory cause there has been no other talks about New Equipment except Spirit of The Deep Set and Lvl 81 Arcane. And it would make sense to release the Spirit Of The Deep Set before Lvl 81 Arcane are released. Let's wait see what happens when Elite Zodias Maps are out 🙏

[Potofgreed]

i made concept videos for spirit weapons. tbh i realized that both videos were bad takes so i unlisted them.

if you invest time into leveling items they should be powerful. but if the items are not powerful then what is the point of leveling them.

if the pull to spirit weapons was 100% chance to proc it still wouldn't be powerful. it just doesnt match the time invested

compare it to farming gold and buying a lvl 81 mythic item. you was better off investing time into farming gold for the mythic items.

spirit items need to be reworked and although people will disagree with this it actually has to be done.

but people will justify their time spent leveling the spirit items. this is why they remain untouched.

realistically the spirit items should be just as powerful as the mythic items if not more.

but thats just my take .

in the end spirit items dont actually have a place in the game. its either they're the best or they're not. if theyre not then why level them.

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[Alkif]

i made concept videos for spirit weapons. tbh i realized that both videos were bad takes so i unlisted them.

if you invest time into leveling items they should be powerful. but if the items are not powerful then what is the point of leveling them.

if the pull to spirit weapons was 100% chance to proc it still wouldn't be powerful. it just doesnt match the time invested

compare it to farming gold and buying a lvl 81 mythic item. you was better off investing time into farming gold for the mythic items.

spirit items need to be reworked and although people will disagree with this it actually has to be done.

but people will justify their time spent leveling the spirit items. this is why they remain untouched.

realistically the spirit items should be just as powerful as the mythic items if not more.

but thats just my take .

in the end spirit items dont actually have a place in the game. its either they're the best or they're not. if theyre not then why level them.

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True, since everyone can afford best in slot weapons by just gold farming for a week or 2 there is no reason to spend THOUSANDS of hours for such a weak weapon. We used to have good gear that also required a lot of time to craft (planar pendant, rendtail ring, himi set, glint set) and they were actually very strong at theyr respective expansion, however in current era its all about 1 taping mobs which means every other gear becomes completely useless. Its not that spirit weapons are bad, its just current weapons are way too strong. Mob pulling weapons like tb and spirit weapons used to be very important in mausoleum expansion.

[Fearrr]

i made concept videos for spirit weapons. tbh i realized that both videos were bad takes so i unlisted them.

if you invest time into leveling items they should be powerful. but if the items are not powerful then what is the point of leveling them.

if the pull to spirit weapons was 100% chance to proc it still wouldn't be powerful. it just doesnt match the time invested

compare it to farming gold and buying a lvl 81 mythic item. you was better off investing time into farming gold for the mythic items.

spirit items need to be reworked and although people will disagree with this it actually has to be done.

but people will justify their time spent leveling the spirit items. this is why they remain untouched.

realistically the spirit items should be just as powerful as the mythic items if not more.

but thats just my take .

in the end spirit items dont actually have a place in the game. its either they're the best or they're not. if theyre not then why level them.

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I agree 100%. Especially with the time invested and being as powerful or more than Mythic Rarity. Spirit Weapons/Gear should be an alterantive for Free 2 Play player's who will not be able to afford 200m+ Arc Weapons and or Gear when they come out. Hopefully STS has learned from their past mistakes with Spirit Gear. Hopefully Spirit Of The Deep Set is done right, because this will definitely give me something to do and work on. I don't mind the grind of the XP as long as it is worth the time to do it.

[Oakmaiden]

I said this on another thread, a full set of Arcane gears is over kill. A couple of pieces peppered here n there. Otherwise all other sets become meaningless. I prefer options. I favor the Eggshell sets, I love the tiny aura. The set bonus is nice.