Garvhoz
07-03-2012, 03:35 PM
I have seen that as the class with the highest armor and health we get kited alot, so I decided to make a guide to counter kite. Also nobody else decided to make a counter kite guide either.
note : this guide is subject to change. This is a work in progress. Feel free to comment your opinion, or give knowledge on how to counter kite if you know of some techniques not mentioned. This is not in any way to offend counter kiters or people who do well enough on their own. I do not posses one of these skills and dont know if its nerfed. This is just knowledge I have gathered PVPing against engis.
First, what is kiting? Kiting is a technique where you stay away from the enemy and occasionally attacking them till the person kiting wins.engis have a general style of kiting. So you need a general style of counter kiting
COUNTER KITING THE ENGINEER
The average engineer will kite you by stunning you and sending a series of attacks while you are recovering. The average kiting engineer will heal itself when staying out of range from your attacks. I have noticed that some commandoes are totally helpless when being kited by engineers, here are a couple of tips to keep you alive, while the engi is slowly dying from your counter kiting.
• Stay positive, noone will win a fight if they already lost the battle in their heads.
• When faceing the engineer always go with kinetic resivoir and your critical buff first so to give them enough damage so they wont be able to effectively heal themselves.
• Use increase mass in the beginning with kinetic resivoir and your critical buff so as to take in the least amount of damage possible.
• Spam kinetic resivoir
• To do some very successful damage use the BB combo [(Back Breaker combo) done when on the floor when you successfully use nuetron stomp or singularity] if you choose to use the singularity variant of the combo try to hit them with a skill before they get knocked down to weaken them and to make singularity successful because coms aren't the only ones with dodge and will instead use that dodge on whatever skill you played.
• When stunned try to heal yourself with vigor if you use that skill. Use it when attacking as well
• When the engineer successfully stuns you try to tease them by going away from them and going back, kite them back ( I mean stay out of range, dont attack) they wont heal because they will be focused on getting to you...most of the time.
• Once you think you have teased them enough ( or healed enough depending if you have vigor or not) run to a corner of a block cast singularity out of 12m (ONCE YOU ACTIVATE SINGULARITY MAKE SURE TO RUN TO THEM IMMEIDIATLY) and run to them with kinect resivoir and your critical buff activated, as they get knocked down use back breaker to make the combo and just use your skills in rapid succession and dont stop until they push you back and start the process over again. Dont forget to use the BB combo.
• If you have the gravity slam skill ( or whatever its called) try to use it all the time when attacking not only does it slowdown the enemy it also debuffs them which works great with you critical buff and kinectic resivoirs after affect of a damage boost. It also decreases the engis chance of running away.
• If you have singularity always use it 1-2 seconds before you want its affect to take place when behind a corner to suprise attack them because of the delayed effect or your in the middle of attacking your enemy and notice that Back Breaker will be fully cooled down when they get pushed back and knocked down so you can use the BB combo.
types of equipment that will help fight the engi:
•Heavy pistol ( higher hit%)
•Sheild (armor take less damage)
•Dodge implant (dodge their attacks less damage)
•Custom set (if you can afford it)
•Regular set (Ex: full meganuat,battleshell, and whatever it was for lv35)
Please comment about what you think:)
note : this guide is subject to change. This is a work in progress. Feel free to comment your opinion, or give knowledge on how to counter kite if you know of some techniques not mentioned. This is not in any way to offend counter kiters or people who do well enough on their own. I do not posses one of these skills and dont know if its nerfed. This is just knowledge I have gathered PVPing against engis.
First, what is kiting? Kiting is a technique where you stay away from the enemy and occasionally attacking them till the person kiting wins.engis have a general style of kiting. So you need a general style of counter kiting
COUNTER KITING THE ENGINEER
The average engineer will kite you by stunning you and sending a series of attacks while you are recovering. The average kiting engineer will heal itself when staying out of range from your attacks. I have noticed that some commandoes are totally helpless when being kited by engineers, here are a couple of tips to keep you alive, while the engi is slowly dying from your counter kiting.
• Stay positive, noone will win a fight if they already lost the battle in their heads.
• When faceing the engineer always go with kinetic resivoir and your critical buff first so to give them enough damage so they wont be able to effectively heal themselves.
• Use increase mass in the beginning with kinetic resivoir and your critical buff so as to take in the least amount of damage possible.
• Spam kinetic resivoir
• To do some very successful damage use the BB combo [(Back Breaker combo) done when on the floor when you successfully use nuetron stomp or singularity] if you choose to use the singularity variant of the combo try to hit them with a skill before they get knocked down to weaken them and to make singularity successful because coms aren't the only ones with dodge and will instead use that dodge on whatever skill you played.
• When stunned try to heal yourself with vigor if you use that skill. Use it when attacking as well
• When the engineer successfully stuns you try to tease them by going away from them and going back, kite them back ( I mean stay out of range, dont attack) they wont heal because they will be focused on getting to you...most of the time.
• Once you think you have teased them enough ( or healed enough depending if you have vigor or not) run to a corner of a block cast singularity out of 12m (ONCE YOU ACTIVATE SINGULARITY MAKE SURE TO RUN TO THEM IMMEIDIATLY) and run to them with kinect resivoir and your critical buff activated, as they get knocked down use back breaker to make the combo and just use your skills in rapid succession and dont stop until they push you back and start the process over again. Dont forget to use the BB combo.
• If you have the gravity slam skill ( or whatever its called) try to use it all the time when attacking not only does it slowdown the enemy it also debuffs them which works great with you critical buff and kinectic resivoirs after affect of a damage boost. It also decreases the engis chance of running away.
• If you have singularity always use it 1-2 seconds before you want its affect to take place when behind a corner to suprise attack them because of the delayed effect or your in the middle of attacking your enemy and notice that Back Breaker will be fully cooled down when they get pushed back and knocked down so you can use the BB combo.
types of equipment that will help fight the engi:
•Heavy pistol ( higher hit%)
•Sheild (armor take less damage)
•Dodge implant (dodge their attacks less damage)
•Custom set (if you can afford it)
•Regular set (Ex: full meganuat,battleshell, and whatever it was for lv35)
Please comment about what you think:)