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I want to talk about something that I have been complaining about for a long time. We have been seeing the same names/persons in the Lb Timed Run Table for the past few seasons and these names/persons do not allow anyone else to enter the Lb Timed Run Table except themselves. This is because these people have the highest grade of Movement Speed Awaken Items. I have a solution for this! Disabling Awakens and Elixirs in Elite Timed Runs. I agree that it will be fair to all players for Timed Lb Runs that the extra awakens of the items are ineffective on the "Timed Maps", except for their base stats. As a result of my recommendations, many players will be able to compete for Timed Runs Lb under equal conditions. Lets put an end to the Timed Lb Run disaster!
A suggestion by old and proffessional player.
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PoorPlayer
03-17-2022, 06:15 AM
Nice drama comming soon ;) excited to see it
Hope devs won't delete this thread atleast for couple days
Nice drama comming soon ;) excited to see it
Hope devs won't delete this thread atleast for couple daysI have provided a solution for this issue, the rest is up to them and the players' decision. Thats all I can do as an involved player.
+1
I think sts should make lb more fair
PoorPlayer
03-17-2022, 06:29 AM
+1
I think sts should make lb more fair
Sts already ruined aps LB by making it "more fair" and allowing dummyfarm + removing flag aps. Its so fair and any noob can enter it easily in couple months, aps LB not valued anymore.
All these "more fair" isn't fair at all, lol, some of those people spent a lot money to get some MS just to be able to run this type of LB, why sts should ruin it for them only because some crying nabs here want that :D looks pathetic.
If you all wanted it to be fair - ask sts to introduce another type of LB without awakes/elixirs etc. Pretty fair, right? but No, you all ask to remove current timed LB with awakes and elixirs at all and replace it by another.
Yoloswagx
03-17-2022, 06:34 AM
My solution is The same person that's alrdy on lb will only hold 1 spot for example he owns 1st spot with his team.
If he were to do it again for lb and somehow get spot 3 or spot 5, that will b neglected n his record won't b there. This is for hydra,fly,valley lb. Its the same ppl in every spot of the lb.
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Sts already ruined aps LB by making it "more fair" and allowing dummyfarm + removing flag aps. Its so fair and any noob can enter it easily in couple months, aps LB not valued anymore.
All these "more fair" isn't fair at all, lol, some of those people spent a lot money to get some MS just to be able to run this type of LB, why sts should ruin it for them only because some crying nabs here want that :D looks pathetic.
If you all wanted it to be fair - ask sts to introduce another type of LB without awakes/elixirs etc. Pretty fair, right? but No, you all ask to remove current timed LB with awakes and elixirs at all and replace it by another.I didn't even mention Aps Lb.. All Timed Runs Lb's has long been just a bunch of players. I've also made a suggestion to resolve this (Ineffective Awakens and Elixirs in Timed Maps). I will give you billions of gold and I want you to find me the best Movement Speed Awaken Items to enter Lb Timed Runs, can you do it? This is no longer possible. You can't say it's possible because the result is obvious.Wake up! Its not about your gold or working hard.
PoorPlayer
03-17-2022, 06:37 AM
My solution is The same person that's alrdy on lb will only hold 1 spot for example he owns 1st spot with his team.
If he were to do it again for lb and somehow get spot 3 or spot 5, that will b neglected n his record won't b there. This is for hydra,fly,valley lb. Its the same ppl in every spot of the lb.
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There's no problem to lvl another chars on different accounts (if person really want to keep all spots) ;)
PoorPlayer
03-17-2022, 06:40 AM
I will give you billions of gold and I want you to find me the best Movement Speed Awaken Items to enter Lb Timed Runs, can you do it? This is no longer possible.
Then imagine how much did they spent over years to find/awake those gears which they have now? Why should it be ruined for them? Why you didn't suggest to make another LB without awakes/elixirs (without removing old type of timed lb)?
Then imagine how much did they spent over years to find/awake those gears which they have now? Why should it be ruined for them? Why you didn't suggest to make another LB without awakes/elixirs (without removing old type of timed lb)?Dude, then let's let these people enter the Timed Lb Runs for seasons and none of us have our own banner or badge. Is that what you want ? Whose lawyer are you? lol.
This is already on their list. Download .pdf and check Last suggestion from page 1 with link.
https://www.spacetimestudios.com/showthread.php?622645-Community-Suggestions-List
Then imagine how much did they spent over years to find/awake those gears which they have now? Why should it be ruined for them? Why you didn't suggest to make another LB without awakes/elixirs (without removing old type of timed lb)?My suggestion can be applied from Season25, 2 weeks left until the end. It's not too late!
Squ1dosh
03-17-2022, 06:48 AM
Lol you just can't get to lb that's why you're complaining and if elixers and awakes cant be used in elites everyone will be on lb for we have the same stats
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Squ1dosh
03-17-2022, 06:51 AM
Just grind for goldss so you can awake your item to ms items during awake event
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Lol you just can't get to lb that's why you're complaining and if elixers and awakes cant be used in elites everyone will be on lb for we have the same stats
Sent from my CPH1903 using TapatalkNot all players! Only the players who play the most powerful items in the Final level and the fastest playz will be able to win the banner. Sounds fair!
Just grind for goldss so you can awake your item to ms items during awake event
Sent from my CPH1903 using TapatalkLet me know if you can, I'd love to see it. Because no one else can do it except a group of players.
Encryptions
03-17-2022, 07:41 AM
Just grind for goldss so you can awake your item to ms items during awake event
Sent from my CPH1903 using Tapatalk"Just grind for gold."
Some of us have billions of gold, its not about the price tag, its just a few billion gold. The issue is finding the items because the quantity is less than 5.
Good luck awakening it too, I have probably used about 2bil gold worth of awakes and still haven't really got anything op.
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I want to talk about something that I have been complaining about for a long time. We have been seeing the same names/persons in the Lb Timed Run Table for the past few seasons and these names/persons do not allow anyone else to enter the Lb Timed Run Table except themselves. This is because these people have the highest grade of Movement Speed Awaken Items. I have a solution for this! Disabling Awakens and Elixirs in Elite Timed Runs. I agree that it will be fair to all players for Timed Lb Runs that the extra awakens of the items are ineffective on the "Timed Maps", except for their base stats. As a result of my recommendations, many players will be able to compete for Timed Runs Lb under equal conditions. Lets put an end to the Timed Lb Run disaster!
A suggestion by old and proffessional player.
I have never been on any timed lb but i am completely against your idea!
I know some of the people who are always winning those places on the LB,
and to have sometime help them to practice some strategies for timekeeper
timed LB, i can really say those guys are real "old and professional" players,
they have invest lot of time and gold to be there!! So imho they totally deserve
their places on that LB!!
Please stop always asking for non-competitives stuff!!
To make timed lb with speed awake disable would make it soooo boring!!!
We talking about speed!!! This is no turtle race!!!!!
Well this is my humble opinion :)
I have never been on any timed lb but i am completely against your idea!
I know some of the people who are always winning those places on the LB,
and to have sometime help them to practice some strategies for timekeeper
timed LB, i can really say those guys are real "old and professional" players,
they have invest lot of time and gold to be there!! So imho they totally deserve
their places on that LB!!
Please stop always asking for non-competitives stuff!!
To make timed lb with speed awake disable would make it soooo boring!!!
We talking about speed!!! This is no turtle race!!!!!
Well this is my humble opinion :)I respect your opinion. But this thing got out of hand. These people have already earned enough badges and banners. According to the advice I gave, it is impossible to have a turtle race because there are items that give enough base speed (200%) in the game (Nox, Tox, Venom etc.). I think that Timed Runs should be completely focused on strategy, you can think of it as an Honor Pvp. Equal , fair and Not Pay to Win! It's a game and it should be equal, right? I think so.
That's when we will see the real professionals. IN FAIR RUNS.
spctmstds
03-17-2022, 08:01 AM
If the leaderboards were skill based, then of course you can have as many of the top spots that you can get (think of mincraft speedruns). Because it is not easily replicable.
Timed LB runs in AL is mostly about gear, and that gear can be passed on to your own alts. The time is easily replicable once you have your gears. So it isn't really fair for everyone no matter how you look at it.
The only downside when an update of "one lb spot per account" is implemented is that those top people can still use other accounts. It would be harder but you won't be easily called out like this guy just did.
You'd have the same problem and people will still complain. When these people invested so much time and gold for their gears then maybe they deserve their spots, and other aspiring runners should just git gud.
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Oakmaiden
03-17-2022, 08:12 AM
We all know it’s the gears that hold the records, not the player. Mostly, who cares? Five people? It’s time to remove all leader boards and the connected drama. Then maybe y’all can concentrate on content. Or banned names or whatever else ya can’t have..
Lol, git gud gears, cuz it’s not skill!
Squ1dosh
03-17-2022, 08:44 AM
"Just grind for gold."
Some of us have billions of gold, its not about the price tag, its just a few billion gold. The issue is finding the items because the quantity is less than 5.
Good luck awakening it too, I have probably used about 2bil gold worth of awakes and still haven't really got anything op.
Sent from my SM-A528B using TapatalkIt depends on your life luck so just keep grinding for golds
And if some top players who got that elite got tired of running eventually they'll sell their gears and if you had grinded the enough amount of gold, then you can buy it, Life is all about chances so if you have a single chance don't lose it, it's up to you whether you grind your way to your goal (fast or slow) or rather just give up and start to complain, life Is not fair from the start it's either you work hard and smart or complain about how unfair an event or competition just because you didn't thinked outside the box.
Btw Ty for noticing Mr. Encryptions
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Aldous
03-17-2022, 09:10 AM
It's funny how this topic gets brought back up every once in a while. Lol. I believe that making a separate lb without ms is the only peaceful option. Disabling awakes for timed runs shouldn't even be considered, it's just too unfair for a lot of reasons. Annoying as it may be to see all the spots being hogged up by a group of people but that's just how it is lol.. you cant ask STS to take the spots from someone just because you can't take it for yourself... it's the competitive nature of timed run leaderboards afterall. Plus, there are maps that don't require %ms like southern seas/arena, orrick/hydra even...you just gotta run countless of times and figure out the right strategies.
Take this from someone who managed to secure a non-ms map and won a banner for two seasons ^^
Notcinco69420
03-17-2022, 09:32 AM
I want to talk about something that I have been complaining about for a long time. We have been seeing the same names/persons in the Lb Timed Run Table for the past few seasons and these names/persons do not allow anyone else to enter the Lb Timed Run Table except themselves. This is because these people have the highest grade of Movement Speed Awaken Items. I have a solution for this! Disabling Awakens and Elixirs in Elite Timed Runs. I agree that it will be fair to all players for Timed Lb Runs that the extra awakens of the items are ineffective on the "Timed Maps", except for their base stats. As a result of my recommendations, many players will be able to compete for Timed Runs Lb under equal conditions. Lets put an end to the Timed Lb Run disaster!
A suggestion by old and proffessional player.
I fully agree that it's unfair that they take all slots because they've been doing this for over 5years and I've spent over 800m on gears and still can't beat all 4 of them when they team up on my runs and it's a bit ridiculous as this point a player who wants even just top 25 on elite timed just one slot they would have to spend 1Billion in gear Minimum and have a full team of 3 mates one rogue to be able to go against their team and have a chance... who tf has billions to spare in this game? Only a handful of players have billions they can pit towards movements peed gear and even so the difficult part isn't having the gold or getting the gold to do it... the difficult part is finding the gears!! Their team constantly buys out every 35+ MS gear they find and I've spent the past 6months trying to find high MS gear over 30% and its almost impossible... I still don't have a full set and it's so ridiculous. I just feel like sts should make it to where each accounts IP Adress can only take 1slot in Timed elite LB but even if they did that demons team can still make new accounts on vps so basically there's not much sts could do to make it easier for all the rest of al players to get lb and anyone who is complaining in here saying that they work sooo hard to get lb and grind constantly and it's not fair to them that any changes happened.... it's because they're friends of theirs and trying to keep more opinions on this so sts sees it and decides yea most saying it's a bad idea so we won't even add it into consideration.
Anyways this is why I made the video stating that nobody can take their lb slots because they're extremely selfish and competitive to the point where even if there's a competing team with insane gear they will still not let them keep their lb slot that they win by grinding and ill prove it in a future video by watching lb and showing yall how no matter what u do or how much u spend on gear or how good of a team u have... it's like they play 24/7 *kystone* so always see lb and keep track of it all day everyday and everytime anyone takes a slot they instantly suddenly all get on at once and start farming and act like it's not because they saw a op team farming to take a lb slot.
Anyways I'm bored and annoyed and just finished my first attempt at taking timed lbs with a full pt and ill just let u know its impossible without shenlong aa buff from one of ur teammates in pt.
Can't get past beginning timer without it
chiiwawa
03-17-2022, 09:43 AM
So, get rid of fast people running timed events???
Alkif
03-17-2022, 09:56 AM
So just because you are unlucky and poor everything needs to be changed? Sounds very selfish and unreasonable. We all have same opportunities, if you are unlucky when awakening or miss good ms awakening items in market its your fault.
I fully agree that it's unfair that they take all slots because they've been doing this for over 5years and I've spent over 800m on gears and still can't beat all 4 of them when they team up on my runs and it's a bit ridiculous as this point a player who wants even just top 25 on elite timed just one slot they would have to spend 1Billion in gear Minimum and have a full team of 3 mates one rogue to be able to go against their team and have a chance... who tf has billions to spare in this game? Only a handful of players have billions they can pit towards movements peed gear and even so the difficult part isn't having the gold or getting the gold to do it... the difficult part is finding the gears!! Their team constantly buys out every 35+ MS gear they find and I've spent the past 6months trying to find high MS gear over 30% and its almost impossible... I still don't have a full set and it's so ridiculous. I just feel like sts should make it to where each accounts IP Adress can only take 1slot in Timed elite LB but even if they did that demons team can still make new accounts on vps so basically there's not much sts could do to make it easier for all the rest of al players to get lb and anyone who is complaining in here saying that they work sooo hard to get lb and grind constantly and it's not fair to them that any changes happened.... it's because they're friends of theirs and trying to keep more opinions on this so sts sees it and decides yea most saying it's a bad idea so we won't even add it into consideration.
Anyways this is why I made the video stating that nobody can take their lb slots because they're extremely selfish and competitive to the point where even if there's a competing team with insane gear they will still not let them keep their lb slot that they win by grinding and ill prove it in a future video by watching lb and showing yall how no matter what u do or how much u spend on gear or how good of a team u have... it's like they play 24/7 *kystone* so always see lb and keep track of it all day everyday and everytime anyone takes a slot they instantly suddenly all get on at once and start farming and act like it's not because they saw a op team farming to take a lb slot.
Anyways I'm bored and annoyed and just finished my first attempt at taking timed lbs with a full pt and ill just let u know its impossible without shenlong aa buff from one of ur teammates in pt.
Can't get past beginning timer without itYou explained it very well, well done!Here are the bitter truths that do not appear in the game. Thanks.
So just because you are unlucky and poor everything needs to be changed? Sounds very selfish and unreasonable. We all have same opportunities, if you are unlucky when awakening or miss good ms awakening items in market its your fault.Another newbie who is not aware of the depth of the subject and makes empty comments..
Next..
Kystone
03-17-2022, 10:10 AM
what about all the guildies we helped get badges? Ignore that? Just unnecessary drama again
PoorPlayer
03-17-2022, 10:17 AM
Another newbie who is not aware of the depth of the subject and makes empty comments..
Next..
who are you btw? selfclaimed "PRO" hahaha
what about all the guildies we helped get badges? Ignore that? Just unnecessary drama againDo we have to be a your guild member to enter the leaderboard? What's this? This business has turned into a child's play rather than a race.
Kystone
03-17-2022, 10:26 AM
Do we have to be a your guild member to enter the leaderboard? What's this? This business has turned into a child's play rather than a race.
Nope and it’s been proven you don’t have to ^^ get better
Nope and it’s been proven you don’t have to ^^ get betterI promise I will end this LB kingdom of yours.
IExposedYou
03-17-2022, 11:05 AM
Why not just add a honor timed lb like honor pvp.
Why not just add a honor timed lb like honor pvp.Good idea, but it will take a long time to code. I'm still of the opinion that Awakens should be disabled in Elite Maps (Timed Only).
Notcinco69420
03-17-2022, 12:08 PM
Amen to that.
My goal is not to destroy demons team.
My goal is to take a few slots every season for other players who don't have 1B+ to spend like they have.
I'm aiming to make AL more fun by giving others a chance at competing for lb without having to spend $2000USD on Platinum to be able to afford the gear.
Ignore anyone who is hating on u, I think u got good ideas and good spirit and I would love to get in contact with u.
Notcinco69420
03-17-2022, 12:16 PM
Okay so what about others who invest their time in gears and spend their time running for lb? Demon team has been doing this for over 5yrs and they have so much experience and timing... even with experienced players they buy all the good ms gear b4 anyone else can get ahold of it or ever offer...
U rly think that by them spending 4b on gear they deserve to take all 25 lb slots for 5years+????
I spent 1b on my gears and I can't solo beat them and it's difficult and it takes alot of time... most of yall don't understand and it's annoying when people talk so much crap but haven't gone through and actually tried to compete and seen what happens.
Ploid
03-17-2022, 12:28 PM
I didn't even mention Aps Lb.. All Timed Runs Lb's has long been just a bunch of players. I've also made a suggestion to resolve this (Ineffective Awakens and Elixirs in Timed Maps). I will give you billions of gold and I want you to find me the best Movement Speed Awaken Items to enter Lb Timed Runs, can you do it? This is no longer possible. You can't say it's possible because the result is obvious.Wake up! Its not about your gold or working hard.Spend the billions of elite awakes and try ur luck just like everyone else did.
If they were able to get high MS, so can you
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|Ares|
03-17-2022, 12:55 PM
If only every person that ever complains about timed leaderboard could finally understand that it's not just about speed. Stop trying to make it look so easy just because people worked for it long enough to be where they are.
This is seriously getting boring at this point, make a team and contest otherwise don't go into topics you have no clue about.
|Ares|
03-17-2022, 01:02 PM
Also the whole idea that my team ever spent billions of gold on gears while majority of us run with 30% movement speed gears per slot in the speed sets itself. Everyone complaining about timed runs is just ridiculously trying to make it seem like without gears we won't be able to contest anything. I like how nobody ever complains about certain maps where all you have to do is stand in correct spot and just wait for boss to show up to get a record.
Now to the point where same people are constantly trying to get developers attention just to change the game around them because apparently Leaderboard is too hard to get on? Yeah let's remove the competitivness from the game because YOU can't get something. It's like I would go and tell people who do Honor PvP to stop going into queue on their alts just so they can get a game and therefore even keep that leaderboard up and running because of what? Because they can play on different classes?
I was not able to get on timed leaderboard myself too but I figured my way out. As per usual same people will come around throwing senseless criticism and go with names towards people that work for that leaderboard.
Just remember the thing, just because I didn't want to help YOU that doesn't mean I'm not willing to help others and get them to run with me.
Get better and figure it out, it's not just speed - its everyone who can't get anything moaning about leaderboards but getting nowhere.
If only every person that ever complains about timed leaderboard could finally understand that it's not just about speed. Stop trying to make it look so easy just because people worked for it long enough to be where they are.
This is seriously getting boring at this point, make a team and contest otherwise don't go into topics you have no clue about.You seem very knowledgeable on this subject, would you like to try 1 round of Lb Timed Run together? If we can do half the record time they did (Without Ms Awakens as you said) I'll agree with you on that. Only half the record! It has nothing to do with experience or effort. Stop deceiving yourself! These players are getting in the way of many of us. I can say that I am more experienced than them in playing rogue abilities and elite maps, but I can't beat their record, why? because they don't let me buy the items I want (+40 MS Awak Per Item), they buy them all themselves. There is so much injustice going on.
Boss spawn time ?You can't even get halfway to kraag tomb4 in 5 seconds, don't be funny.But their record is like a 4-6 second.
Kystone
03-17-2022, 01:27 PM
I’m not even fully 30% ms btw
|Ares|
03-17-2022, 01:27 PM
You seem very knowledgeable on this subject, would you like to try 1 round of Lb Timed Run together? If we can do half the record time they did (Without Ms Awakens as you said) I'll agree with you on that. Only half the record! It has nothing to do with experience or effort. Stop deceiving yourself! These players are getting in the way of many of us. I can say that I am more experienced than them in playing rogue abilities and elite maps, but I can't beat their record, why? because they don't let me buy the items I want (+40 MS Awak Per Item), they buy them all themselves. There is so much injustice going on.
Boss spawn time ?You can't even get halfway to kraag tomb4 in 5 seconds, don't be funny.But their record is like a 4-6 second.
Sure, hit me up in game. I'm Demon.
Lawpvp
03-17-2022, 01:29 PM
What do you expect? That guild is known for being pretentious. Just read the guild name...
I have a friend who joined that guild recently. Point blank told me he was carried to his lb spot despite that he has the gold/skill to help, he didn't even need to help. Which to be quite honest, I'm totally okay with that. Carry as many people as you want. Here is the part that annoys tf outta me.
Anytime a thread is made suggesting changes to the lb they rally the troops to the forums to downvote and derail any thread with excuses like "people want banners without putting in the effort" or "you need to learn the strats for yourself". My friend didn't have to put in the effort himself to learn the strats, he was simply carried. There's a double standard. You think everybody else should have to put in effort unless you have blessed them with your presence in which case its okay for them to "get banners without putting in effort or learning the strats"
You guys have already been made out as the villains. You might as well embrace it and admit that if you could you would hog all the lb spots for your friends and guildies. People might actually respect that more and have less vitriol towards you than when you come to the forums with contrived nonsense like "you just need to learn the strats" whilst simultaneously carrying people that didn't learn the strats. Just my 2 cents
I’m not even fully 30% ms btwHahaha, we know that you have the highest ms awaken items in the market, you have earned enough badges and banners. We want the Leaderboard to be left to the players who play really well. Leaderboard's pay to enter order must be broken.We will unearth the talented players.
|Ares|
03-17-2022, 01:32 PM
What do you expect? That guild is known for being pretentious. Just read the guild name...
I have a friend who joined that guild recently. Point blank told me he was carried to his lb spot despite that he has the gold/skill to help, he didn't even need to help. Which to be quite honest, I'm totally okay with that. Carry as many people as you want. Here is the part that annoys tf outta me.
Anytime a thread is made suggesting changes to the lb they rally the troops to the forums to downvote and derail any thread with excuses like "people want banners without putting in the effort" or "you need to learn the strats for yourself". My friend didn't have to put in the effort himself to learn the strats, he was simply carried. There's a double standard. You think everybody else should have to put in effort unless you have blessed them with your presence in which case its okay for them to "get banners without putting in effort or learning the strats"
You guys have already been made out as the villains. You might as well embrace it and admit that if you could you would hog all the lb spots for your friends and guildies. People might actually respect that more and have less vitriol towards you than when you come to the forums with contrived nonsense like "you just need to learn the strats" whilst simultaneously carrying people that didn't learn the strats. Just my 2 cents
High Society doesn't stand for being pretentious.... no that kinda high lol
Overbear
03-17-2022, 01:33 PM
What is with the obsession of making everything "fair"? True fairness is everyone is given equal opportunity.
We all play this game right? Some play more often and have played for longer, but we all HAVE the ability to play.
"But we don't ALL have billions of gold or insanely hard to get MS gear"...
So? Do you think that, when these players who you're demonizing started, those gears or gold just magically appeared? Hint: They didn't...
And so what if they spent money on platinum? Is the option to purchase plat not available for everyone?
"But not everyone can afford it.", then your problem is not with the game, but with life.
And life as we know it simply isn't fair.
Lawpvp
03-17-2022, 01:33 PM
High Society doesn't stand for being pretentious.... no that kinda high lol
never said that what it stands for, said thats what its known for
|Ares|
03-17-2022, 01:36 PM
never said that what it stands for, said thats what its known for
Yes but the message suggests otherwise. Anyways regarding to what you said above about someone joining the guild and getting a carry I'm assuming its about Orrick leaderboard that I sometimes help guildies with. Well truth to what you said but the sad part - its a 2 man job or even 1 person job (rogues more skilled than me) to secure a time and get a nice badge. I might be wrong tho.
Cinco
03-17-2022, 01:42 PM
Adding some sort of timed LB that requires Honor Set (or a new Timed Runners' set) seems like it could be cool, so I'll consider it.
As for this particular thread, I see no compelling arguments to strip out equipment, Enchants, or wealth from your fellow competitors.
Closing to protect you from yourselves.