Overthinking the myth set for war

[Uereazagr]

Hello. Before I start, I would like to clarify some things. Yes, I have tried both mythic weapons in PvE and PvP. Yes, I own a mythic 81 set.I have been a fan of neptaris since the start of expansion, never really liked polaris much.No, I have not tested both weapons in perfect conditions(yet top lbers for ekenta and rahabkor have, no wonder they all use polaris lol) Now, when I clarified some things, let me begin.
There’s a major problem with mythic set for war, which causes 2 other problems(not being able to clear with 81 myth set and being really helpless in pvp)
The major problem being one weapon completely outclassing another one(in perfect conditions).Of course, I think the polaris is better. Here is why, let’s compare them on 3 different bosses: rahabkor, ekenta and mecharydon(elite). The best boss for polaris is always mecharydon(small amount of damage needed), because you can easily take knock him down (to his immunity phase) instantly with enough damage, yet with neptaris you would need to waste time marking him and delivering more hits. And lets not forget about teammates, neptaris is usually too slow to have any impact with good team. Rahabkor(requires a moderate amount of damage). Here you could use neptaris to knock him down fast, yet with damage elixirs and good team you can still knock him down with one hit(with some help from team), also, polaris has a “character buff” proc, so you can kill the mini boss slime instantly and take the boss out much faster. Ekenta(big amounts of damage needed). Here, you thought neptaris has to be better since it deals more damage to single target, right? Wrong! For timed, you would rather stack polaris proc on mobs in the entrance, then run in, hit ekenta twice and let teammates finish it off.
Here’s my point. There shouldn’t be two boss-oriented weapons for one class in current meta, especially if one outclasses another. My suggestion: either nerf polaris(make it deal less damage in a single tick) or rework neptaris: make it a mob clear weapon or a self-buff weapon— so war class actually becomes competitive in PvP with 81 myth set and won’t require a skull axe or TB to run PvE.

[Nexior]

Im in all 3portals lb and war who runs with us using diffrent wep from your statemends. Try to swap nepta to polaris and polaris to nepta xD
And simple if u cant clear with myth set just dont use it
Ps. They not using myth set xd

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[Uereazagr]

Im in all 3portals lb and war who runs with us using diffrent wep from your statemends. Try to swap nepta to polaris and polaris to nepta xD
And simple if u cant clear with myth set just dont use it
Ps. They not using myth set xd

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? Legolasn literally doesn’t own a neptaris

[Nexior]

? Legolasn literally doesn’t own a neptaris4example Lego, ye you right legolasn poor asf xD

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[Uereazagr]

You missed my point I think nex. I was complaining about neptaris being pretty useless compared to polaris.Basically we can’t clear nor pvp with myth 81 just because devs released two weapons with a similar proc in one class

[Nexior]

Ok so , nepta on ekenta , polaris mecha , raha both works pretty good basicly all about what strategy u want.
Ekenta- mage op asf, war neutral, rogue neutral
Raha- war op asf,rogue op, mage neutral
Mecha- rogue op asf,mage op asf, war neutral
Thats mine experience so far

In fact war is cheapest class atm u should be happy

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[Uereazagr]

Ok so , nepta on ekenta , polaris mecha , raha both works pretty good basicly all about what strategy u want.
Ekenta- mage op asf, war neutral, rogue neutral
Raha- war op asf,rogue op, mage neutral
Mecha- rogue op asf,mage op asf, war neutral
Thats mine experience so far

In fact war is cheapest class atm u should be happy

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I just ask why do we have two boss-oriented weapons? The war is the only class that got discriminated in this expansion, both rogue and mage have diverse usage for their weapons…

[Nexior]

I just ask why do we have two boss-oriented weapons? The war is the only class that got discriminated in this expansion, both rogue and mage have diverse usage for their weapons…Idk what about u talking even me like a mage using just gun on all 3portals( staff just on mobs ekenta)

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[Uereazagr]

I have vsed rogues in pvp, and both their weapons are really good and enjoyable to use(and annoying af to counter). With pisces you can play passive and nuke on sea power proc and opponent will basically not be able to protect himself against it because he’s trying to not die from bends… and with marianos you can just do crazy stuff like oneshot warriors with charged jug.. and us warriors get two useless weapons that rarely proc because of their mechanic, and when they do actually proc opponent just dodges it either manually or with a dodge %, and when proc actually lands it does basically nothing because it has weak damage so opponent just tanks it and kills you… you think thats okay?

[Nexior]

I have vsed rogues in pvp, and both their weapons are really good and enjoyable to use(and annoying af to counter). With pisces you can play passive and nuke on sea power proc and opponent will basically not be able to protect himself against it because he’s trying to not die from bends… and with marianos you can just do crazy stuff like oneshot warriors with charged jug.. and us warriors get two useless weapons that rarely proc because of their mechanic, and when they do actually proc opponent just dodges it either manually or with a dodge %, and when proc actually lands it does basically nothing because it has weak damage so opponent just tanks it and kills you… you think thats okay?Lets be honest end game pvp died long time ago(honor just active)
And we spoke about pve
Ofc it would be nice to have all weapons balanced to both game modes but common better focus pve if they dont have possibility to fix pvp. Pve playing more players

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[Uereazagr]

Lets be honest end game pvp died long time ago(honor just active)
And we spoke about pve
Ofc it would be nice to have all weapons balanced to both game modes but common better focus pve if they dont have possibility to fix pvp. Pve playing more players

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My point still persists. You can’t do 81 pve solo as a warrior just because it requires a lot of time to clear stupid mobs either will skull axe or two by two with polaris

[Uereazagr]

I actually just got an idea how to balance it out nicely in PvE. You could reduce the tick damage on polaris and make normal and charge attacks do a “splash” AoE on proc — so it can actually clear mobs. That would fit the expansion theme too

[Nexior]

I actually just got an idea how to balance it out nicely in PvE. You could reduce the tick damage on polaris and make normal and charge attacks do a “splash” AoE on proc — so it can actually clear mobs. That would fit the expansion theme tooBut then again war cap , and no need other class bcs nepta still does huge boss dmg

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[Uereazagr]

But then again war cap , and no need other class bcs nepta still does huge boss dmg

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Idk about war cap because evg was actually 1 war and 3 mages, and sometimes rog

[Nexior]

Idk about war cap because evg was actually 1 war and 3 mages, and sometimes rogYe war doing solo every second wave idk why all Arlor saying 2years of War God era xD

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[Uereazagr]

Ye war doing solo every second wave idk why all Arlor saying 2years of War God era xD

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Still, war is very very strange in this meta… I hope cinco or asommers see this thread and figure something out with it

[Nexior]

Still, war is very very strange in this meta… I hope cinco or asommers see this thread and figure something out with itOfc is strange , bcs all wars learned to dominate in pve in every stage . With all respect i didnt see nothing wrong with classes balance atm , maybe rogue should be slightly boosted ,and fix to all weapons proc rate to make it more enjoyable .

All elite maps and portals possible to run with all classes mixed with almost same results

Dont feel offended but not many people wants back era war is must have in all maps special since farmers dont have dm anymore.
Is not bad how it is now.


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[Uereazagr]

I would be very disappointed if PvP stayed as is tho. Wars there need a buff to balance classes out or it will die for real

[Blessful]

My point still persists. You can’t do 81 pve solo as a warrior just because it requires a lot of time to clear stupid mobs either will skull axe or two by two with polaris

You can solo any map under 5mins as a war Including portal bosses .. (except elite raha)

iv never tried mythic set but I’m guessing its terrible to solo with since you don’t get any Armor procs.



I just ask why do we have two boss-oriented weapons? The war is the only class that got discriminated in this expansion, both rogue and mage have diverse usage for their weapons…

Aegis works so well on mobs AND bosses.. builds ulti super fast with mobs as well. Aegis is very diverse in the right hands. If this was nerfed i honestly think war would be so painful to play. gl trying to proc that sword on bosses.

[Blessful]

You missed my point I think nex. I was complaining about neptaris being pretty useless compared to polaris.Basically we can’t clear nor pvp with myth 81 just because devs released two weapons with a similar proc in one class

They buffed nep a while ago decreasing its charge time. I think it's the same charge time as mari bow now, not sure but it makes the wep much easier to use.

[Fearrr]

You can solo any map under 5mins as a war Including portal bosses .. (except elite raha)

iv never tried mythic set but I’m guessing its terrible to solo with since you don’t get any Armor procs.




Aegis works so well on mobs AND bosses.. builds ulti super fast with mobs as well. Aegis is very diverse in the right hands. If this was nerfed i honestly think war would be so painful to play. gl trying to proc that sword on bosses.

Looks like you edited your post. Yes 4/4 Mythic Set it does 1 Shot Mini-Bosses and depending on AA(I use Meph 99.9% of the time now) I'm using and sometimes but not always needed with VB...1-2 Shot Main Bosses. This was when I had 2.6K Str and 11.6K Damage. I haven't tested yet 2720 Str and 11.95K Damage. I don't own Legendary Set and never will the lack of Crit on it is ZZZ. I still use Terror Blade, Skull Axe and my 76 Arc Set for mobs with Ebon Armor and that's like 2.1K Str 30K HP 9.4K Damage 71% Crit.

[Uereazagr]

You can solo any map under 5mins as a war Including portal bosses .. (except elite raha)

iv never tried mythic set but I’m guessing its terrible to solo with since you don’t get any Armor procs.



Aegis works so well on mobs AND bosses.. builds ulti super fast with mobs as well. Aegis is very diverse in the right hands. If this was nerfed i honestly think war would be so painful to play. gl trying to proc that sword on bosses.
You basically confirmed my point bro

[Blessful]

You basically confirmed my point bro

Yep sword sucks compared to aegis. but their not both boss-oriented. You can insta kill 4 mobs at once with aegis. Delete 12 of them if all 3 charges hit.

[Uereazagr]

Yep sword sucks compared to aegis. but their not both boss-oriented. You can insta kill 4 mobs at once with aegis. Delete 12 of them if all 3 charges hit.

True, though you will rarely hit 4 mobs in one charged hit, because they run, dodge, and all kinds of stuff. Also you will probably not hit all 3 attacks very often.It’s really unreliable and vs weaker mobs both weapons are really just high damage clubs with little crowd control

[Blessful]

True, though you will rarely hit 4 mobs in one charged hit, because they run, dodge, and all kinds of stuff. Also you will probably not hit all 3 attacks very often.It’s really unreliable and vs weaker mobs both weapons are really just high damage clubs with little crowd control

Yea i hate this rng meta for war. Cinco loves rng though xD

[Nexior]

Yea i hate this rng meta for war. Cinco loves rng though xDThey said new proc will be easy to proc xD lets see , hope rng era ends xD

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[Encryptions]

Ofc is strange , bcs all wars learned to dominate in pve in every stage . With all respect i didnt see nothing wrong with classes balance atm , maybe rogue should be slightly boosted ,and fix to all weapons proc rate to make it more enjoyable .


Yeah, it is true wars always find a way to dominate stuff but the thing I really noticed is there are a lot of good warrior players skill wise vs rog and mage. People complain war is too op but its really the people who don't know how to play who complain war is op when they watch a warrior who knows how to play his class.
Rog and mage are both very op, but most of those who play these 2 classes don't even know how to use their class properly vs war which has many people who can play the war class correctly. As a rogue I nuke any map boss or mob in seconds, as a mage I am not mastered at but I do tons of damage and kill small mobs way faster than war. Not including ekenta rahabkor or mech shark on the list.

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[Kystone]

It’s rly not that hard to be good at warr lol

[Dozers]

It’s rly not that hard to be good at warr lol

It used to be when we had to switch between hotbars like we were flying an airplane or what with that many buttons.

[Elec]

Maybe I'm too noob to understand what you are saying.
But for me, Nep does, by far, a lot more dmg than Polaris.
Polaris is good when mobs are around, clearing mobs or having to finish the boss with 1 hit(like corv or dragon).
I consider Polaris as mob weapon than boss weapon tho.
Maybe it's because I have haste build but Polaris never does, not even close dmg than nep with proper haste build.


For example,
ESF: I use Polaris for mini bosses when mobs are around to clear them or hit boss with mobs.
Then usually use nep on boss, trying to get aggro and push him(he walks away) from his green pool and mobs to proc on him and finish.
If pt doesn't help and too many mobs are around, change to Polar to clear mobs.

Elite mecha/ek/rah: I use nep on boss, Polar on mobs.

Even for maus, I use Polar when witch buff mobs.


Again, Polar can be used on boss, but it's for mobs and easy-to-use weapon for me.
Nep is for boss.

[Uereazagr]

Maybe I'm too noob to understand what you are saying.
But for me, Nep does, by far, a lot more dmg than Polaris.
Polaris is good when mobs are around, clearing mobs or having to finish the boss with 1 hit(like corv or dragon).
I consider Polaris as mob weapon than boss weapon tho.
Maybe it's because I have haste build but Polaris never does, not even close dmg than nep with proper haste build.


For example,
ESF: I use Polaris for mini bosses when mobs are around to clear them or hit boss with mobs.
Then usually use nep on boss, trying to get aggro and push him(he walks away) from his green pool and mobs to proc on him and finish.
If pt doesn't help and too many mobs are around, change to Polar to clear mobs.

Elite mecha/ek/rah: I use nep on boss, Polar on mobs.

Even for maus, I use Polar when witch buff mobs.


Again, Polar can be used on boss, but it's for mobs and easy-to-use weapon for me.
Nep is for boss.
Where would you need that much damage for?

[Elec]

Where would you need that much damage for?

I don't understand your question again. But I'll guess and try to answer.

Maybe you run with op rogues and mages a lot so you don't need to do much dmg.
Like time run, war has no time to charge ult, not sure if warriors are even needed.

Occasionally I run with my op rogue friend. Yes, then I don't need to do any dmg. My ult won't even changed
But I run with randoms 99%. I need to help with dmg or it will take forever or even impossible to finish the map.

Esf, many people just put their gl gear and wait until warriors kill the bosses.
Mech, I need to kill some mobs if dps can't clear them quick. And finishing at the last phase is easier for me than undergeared dps.
Ek, ofc takes long time with his reflection, I deal dmg as much as I can to charge my ult. Then at least I can finish the boss within 4 mins.
Rah, at least one of 3 who attacks boss should heal, which makes me in there and do some dmg in many case.



Ult is like one-time for run and I need to save it for right timing. So I would like to do as much dmg as I can without ult too.
I mean. Why not? Lol
Idk if this answers your question.

[Uereazagr]

I don't understand your question again. But I'll guess and try to answer.

Maybe you run with op rogues and mages a lot so you don't need to do much dmg.
Like time run, war has no time to charge ult, not sure if warriors are even needed.

Occasionally I run with my op rogue friend. Yes, then I don't need to do any dmg. My ult won't even changed
But I run with randoms 99%. I need to help with dmg or it will take forever or even impossible to finish the map.

Esf, many people just put their gl gear and wait until warriors kill the bosses.
Mech, I need to kill some mobs if dps can't clear them quick. And finishing at the last phase is easier for me than undergeared dps.
Ek, ofc takes long time with his reflection, I deal dmg as much as I can to charge my ult. Then at least I can finish the boss within 4 mins.
Rah, at least one of 3 who attacks boss should heal, which makes me in there and do some dmg in many case.



Ult is like one-time for run and I need to save it for right timing. So I would like to do as much dmg as I can without ult too.
I mean. Why not? Lol
Idk if this answers your question.

And now check the lb time for raha and ekenta(they used polaris btw) also you can still oneshot boss with ulti, it’s really not that hard

[Nexior]

And now check the lb time for raha and ekenta(they used polaris btw) also you can still oneshot boss with ulti, it’s really not that hardRaha they used both weps

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[Uereazagr]

Raha they used both weps

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Yeah but just because with 2 polarises it’s annoying to determine who’s weapon procced

[Mcmikeguapo]

Warrs are op, don’t have any doubt abt it and I’m telling you this cause I’m running seasonal with warr, my method is using axe and ebon/chasmal to clean enemies which isn’t too hard (except if you get poisoned and ur dmg decreases) and use neptaris for all bosses, got Polaris but it’s overrated imo cause by the end neptaris can make a lot of more dmg than Polaris and it’s way easier to proc with throwing axe and a couple of basic hits (I use mythic set only with bosses cause it really sucks to clean). Now with pvp mythic is only useful for clashes 4v4 or 5v5 and only Polaris works cause Neptsaris is useless due to this is only 1 target.