Mythic set and stacking damage

[Xyv.io]

Stacking damage is not stacking or something?
When I have garlic (stacking dmg) equipped I get 9.1k dmg and when I have hiberio (non-stacking) equipped I get 9.55k dmg. Why does this happen can someone explain...

And btw heroic lammy has stacking damage and it's not mentioned in it's hb, ppl can misjudge it's hb.

[PostNoob]

Stacking damage on a pet lets your proc hit higher numbers. Just do a quick test with ur proc and you will see. Garlic should let you have higher peak damage than Standard Damage% Pets(Hiberio).

Hiberio's +Damage stat can add up to a few hundred damage bonus too, maybe that is what u mean

[Nexior]

Did u use 25%damage and 30% damage elixir ?
Also hiberio adds +10dmg +25%dmg
In that case if not using 30%damage elixir hiberio will got more dmg on paper.

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[Xyv.io]

Did u use 25%damage and 30% damage elixir ?
Also hiberio adds +10dmg +25%dmg
In that case if not using 30%damage elixir hiberio will got more dmg on paper.

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Using no elixirs, as I said above any other pet really which has stacking damage is giving me less damage than the non stacking damage pet hb. 1 more example : I get 9.5k dmg from heroic lammy (stacking) and 9.78k damage from antonio(non-stacking). And both have 30% damage

[Xyv.io]

And this happens only when I use the mythic set 4/4. Otherwise everything seems to be fine. I know the mythic set gives 20% damage but still don't get why the above mentioned happens...

[Adek Nakal]

dont worry damage stacking is always the best

[Xyv.io]

dont worry damage stacking is always the best
I know. My question still remains unanswered @Cinco

[Nexior]

And this happens only when I use the mythic set 4/4. Otherwise everything seems to be fine. I know the mythic set gives 20% damage but still don't get why the above mentioned happens...U need also count int/str/dex points +other damage included in HB in case of hiberio got +10dmg where garlick got just %damage

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[Encryptions]

Stacking damage on a pet lets your proc hit higher numbers.

On a weapon no, on a vest proc yes.
Weapon proc, say I have 3k base damage and equip a pet with 50% stacking damage. Base damage would be 4500 correct. On a weapon proc that buffs 500% damage with the stacking 50% damage pet the formula is 3000 times 5 + 1500. End result is 16500 damage.
Nonstacking pet 50% damage would let you proc a weapon and it would be flat numbers, 4500 times 5. 22500 damage.

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[PostNoob]

On a weapon no, on a vest proc yes.
Weapon proc, say I have 3k base damage and equip a pet with 50% stacking damage. Base damage would be 4500 correct. On a weapon proc that buffs 500% damage with the stacking 50% damage pet the formula is 3000 times 5 + 1500. End result is 16500 damage.
Nonstacking pet 50% damage would let you proc a weapon and it would be flat numbers, 4500 times 5. 22500 damage.

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I just tested it in about 30 seconds. Stacking damage increases your overall proc damage more than Standard damage pets.

Compared Yinshe hb with Hiberio. Yinshe provided about 2k extra peak proc damage.

This was with 30% Damage elixir.

[Xyv.io]

U need also count int/str/dex points +other damage included in HB in case of hiberio got +10dmg where garlick got just %damage

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I gave you another example. My question is still unanswered, it might just be a bug with mythic set.

[Encryptions]

I just tested it in about 30 seconds. Stacking damage increases your overall proc damage more than Standard damage pets.

Compared Yinshe hb with Hiberio. Yinshe provided about 2k extra peak proc damage.

This was with 30% Damage elixir.

30% damage elixir is non stacking meaning it will make stacking dmg pets look better on damage buffed, try the experiment without any elixirs.

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[Player AL]

I gave you another example. My question is still unanswered, it might just be a bug with mythic set.

your damage = (base dmg) x (100%+highest from not stacking) x (sum of all stacking dmg)

with hiberio (25% not stacking from hb and 20% stacking from full set):
(base dmg)x(100%+25%)x(100%+20%)=1,5 x (base dmg)

with garlic (25% stacking hb, 20% stacking from full set):
(base dmg)x(100%)x(100%+25%+20%) = 1,45 x (base dmg)

try use 30% damage elixir (which is not stacking) and compare damage stat with those pets, u will see with garlic u have more dmg as stat


dont worry damage stacking is always the best

This is not true, arcane armors lvl71/76 giving not stacking damage and its perfect

another example, mephisto aa gives 50% not stacking damage, for pvp its perfect (if no damage debuffs), if it would be 50% stacking - your damage with mephisto aa would be lower

[Xyv.io]

your damage = (base dmg) x (100%+highest from not stacking) x (sum of all stacking dmg)

with hiberio (25% not stacking from hb and 20% stacking from full set):
(base dmg)x(100%+25%)x(100%+20%)=1,5 x (base dmg)

with garlic (25% stacking hb, 20% stacking from full set):
(base dmg)x(100%)x(100%+25%+20%) = 1,45 x (base dmg)

try use 30% damage elixir (which is not stacking) and compare damage stat with those pets, u will see with garlic u have more dmg as stat



This is not true, arcane armors lvl71/76 giving not stacking damage and its perfect

another example, mephisto aa gives 50% not stacking damage, for pvp its perfect (if no damage debuffs), if it would be 50% stacking - your damage with mephisto aa would be lower

yes you're right, i also did some math and found this was happening. Maybe it shouln't be like this lol but idk might be intentional from devs.

so if you check my photo (view full site if on phone), it shows an easy calculation...

[Player AL]

yes you're right, i also did some math and found this was happening. Maybe it shouln't be like this lol but idk might be intentional from devs.


Also when you decide to run with pet which gives you %not stacking damage, consider that any damage debuff (there are some debuffs in new maps) will remove ALL your not stacking damage
For example u have 125% with hiberio, getting 5% damage debuff, your damage becomes 95% (removing 25% not stacking and debuffing by 5%).

[Adek Nakal]

you are saying that non stacking is "always the best?always

[snakeeyes]

I see that too try to use hb of (not stack )noe vs hb of (stacking) arc samson, hb of noe has more 100 damage than arc samson but arc samson has a better stat but -100 damage to hb of noe, just take a look @Devs @Cinco @Futumsh using mythic set i think its a bug

[Gaurav Arora]

I think stacking should only work for elixirs and other buffs from equip or pet aa should be calculated same for both stack and nonstack. Just my opinion. Currently the mechanics are too messed up and normal players are confused what to use where with which pet and equip. My solution would resolve this and would justify stacking pet being better overall.