View Full Version : L61 Orlock Sword vs Glyph Mace/Tamin Club
Twinklaser
07-20-2012, 05:23 PM
Being a higher level premium pink, the sword should be better. However stat wise, the sword seems a tad bit worse than the 60 weapons. is there some proc or skill damage bonus that makes the sword better?
WarTornBird
07-20-2012, 06:25 PM
Well for one. The orlok sword adds more skill damage. And as well it has the weakness proc I believe. You'll have to ask a mage what that affects. I believe its hit chance and dodge. Not sure. The high end damage on the mace definetly hurts but the reality is, your not gonna hit a 300+ on a buffed mage or bear. Mage, maybe.
Now I find that since 56 cap everything has been a step up except orlok. Ask Apollo, when I fought his 56 sm bear, he Hung right there with me, we finally called a stop to the fight.
Cruis
07-20-2012, 06:31 PM
Being a higher level premium pink, the sword should be better. However stat wise, the sword seems a tad bit worse than the 60 weapons. is there some proc or skill damage bonus that makes the sword better?
It depends. Are you talking about the whole set, or the weapons themselves? If you're talking about the 61 Orlok Sword 'Set' then it's the set bonus that boosts it above the Glyph mace set. Also, doesn't the sword have better DPS anyway?
Twinklaser
07-20-2012, 06:57 PM
Im talking about the Orlock Sword itself, though it is likely I will get the full set soon. Sword has slightly better dps than the mace but compared to the club, its outclassed by 70-120 dps is I remember correctly.
If it helps, Im a pally but if Orlock isnt at least a bit good Ill most likely switch to the common 61 int mage. And since I already maxed the skill weakness, does it stack with the sword proc.
WarTornBird
07-20-2012, 07:48 PM
I do believe it does. However. Dps isn't important. Dps is simply how much your weapon will hit in a second. Being that's its a max hit critical against zero armor. Most people think that dps is so huge but would you rather a dagger to hit 40 or a mace to hit 200+ me id rather the 200.
Twinklaser
07-20-2012, 07:53 PM
So… Switch to the sword?
Whirlzap
07-20-2012, 07:54 PM
Weakness proc takes away Hit% and Damage.
Otukura
07-20-2012, 07:56 PM
99% sure it's a nightmare proc, not weakness.
WarTornBird
07-20-2012, 08:00 PM
Like I said, I'm not sure about the whole proc thing.
I would switch to the orlok set. If you have glyph use the mace. The added set bonus does help. But I do know orlok has more skill damage which is important.
Twinklaser
07-20-2012, 08:01 PM
Grrr…… Answer my question >.> Sword vs Mace/Club. Which one?
FYI Weakness: -30 Dam -30hit% 8m Nightmare: -30 Arm -10% Dodge 6 m
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Otukura
07-20-2012, 08:02 PM
Grrr…… Answer my question >.> Sword vs Mace/Club. Which one?
Sword by far.
WarTornBird
07-20-2012, 08:03 PM
If your going to use the sword alone, use the mace. If your going to use the orlok set, of course orlok is better.
Twinklaser
07-20-2012, 08:06 PM
Ok, Thanx. That wasnt so hard was it? :3
WarTornBird
07-20-2012, 08:08 PM
Explanation my friend, I was trying to get you to understand so I wouldn't have to tell you :p
Twinklaser
07-20-2012, 08:21 PM
I prefer a yes or no over a paragraph. Just saying. :) I appreciate your efforts though :p
WarTornBird
07-20-2012, 08:23 PM
I prefer you understand your self so you can help others in the future if they have questions.
But to each his own your welcome.
Nick41324
07-20-2012, 11:30 PM
Orlok is better than every str item below it in level. Its even possible to nuke a demonic str bear if your proc+crushing hits. Your proc will lower their dodge and their def, combined with crushing blow, they're pretty much as good as dead
KingFu
07-20-2012, 11:39 PM
Orlok is better than every str item below it in level. Its even possible to nuke a demonic str bear if your proc+crushing hits. Your proc will lower their dodge and their def, combined with crushing blow, they're pretty much as good as dead
Unless mace stuns you and you can't get off CB.
Nick41324
07-20-2012, 11:41 PM
Orlok is better than every str item below it in level. Its even possible to nuke a demonic str bear if your proc+crushing hits. Your proc will lower their dodge and their def, combined with crushing blow, they're pretty much as good as dead
Unless mace stuns you and you can't get off CB.
I'm saying if all goes well haha. I realize there are many different things that can happen to keep you from nuking
KingFu
07-20-2012, 11:44 PM
I'm saying if all goes well haha. I realize there are many different things that can happen to keep you from nuking
Ya, sword proc is heavy. A lot of the time it can determine who wins the fight, that's why I dislike nightmare procs on str weapons so much. Weakness is fine, but nightmare can really end a match quick.
Twinklaser
07-21-2012, 02:26 PM
Orlok is better than every str item below it in level. Its even possible to nuke a demonic str bear if your proc+crushing hits. Your proc will lower their dodge and their def, combined with crushing blow, they're pretty much as good as dead
I may need to stress more that I'm a Mage :0. If the proc hits and I use nightmare, does it stack?
Otukura
07-21-2012, 02:29 PM
I may need to stress more that I'm a Mage :0. If the proc hits and I use nightmare, does it stack?
As a mage, orlok is > glyph without a question. You need skill damage way more than a stun proc.
Doesn't stack iirc.
Nightmare proc.. It makes that weird sound as nightmare skill
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Twinklaser
07-21-2012, 02:46 PM
Does the other L61 Sword have the Same proc?
WarTornBird
07-21-2012, 02:55 PM
Yes both of the dead and orlok sword have the proc.