Feedback: Achievements III (Standard)

[asommers]

Ok, I've read through the feedback from this thread (https://www.spacetimestudios.com/showthread.php?637021-Feedback-Achievements-II-(Standard)) and a majority did not want existing achievements removed.

So, rather than completely redo achievments, we're going to keep all of the existing achievements and I'm looking at just adding the following:

I welcome any comments, feedback, and/or constructive criticism.

-ALS

Pets

Collected 300, 400 (total 435)
Collected 50 arcane (total 69)
Collected 100, 125, 150 heroic (total 165)
Collected 1, 10, 25 mythic (total 38)
Collected 1, 10, 25 arcanite (total 42)


Kills

PvE: 100, 500, 1000, 5000, 10000, 50000, 100000, 500000, 1000000


Slots (will need to verify limits)

Standard Inventory 100, 250, 500
Crafting Inventory 100, 250, 500
Furnishing Inventory 100, 250, 500
Stash 100, 250, 500
Crafting 5, 10, 25, 50
Auction 5, 10, 25, 50


Item

Crafted 10, 20, 50, 100, 200, 500, 1000 items
Crafted 1 jewel of each type
Upgraded N items 1, 10, 20, 50, 100, 200, 500, 1000
Awakened N items 1, 10, 20, 50, 100, 200, 500, 1000 (initial)
Augmented N items 1, 10, 20, 50, 100, 200, 500, 1000 (Used Stones of Augmentation)
Empowered N items 1, 10, 20, 50, 100, 200, 500, 1000 (Used Empowered Stones of Augmentation)


Looted

Gold from mobs 1000, 10000, 100000, 1000000, 10000000, 100000000, 100000000

[asommers]

NOTES:

Numbers can be tweaked.
You're not expected to reach every achievement.
We'll look what's involved in splitting hardcore leaderboards from standard leaderboards.


-ALS

[Xuds]

Respectfully if we aren't expected to complete every achievement what is the point of even adding them? The upgrading 10,000 items (if this means slotting a jewel inside) this one is just a big filler, because a single player wouldn't even need to upgrade a personal item 10,000 times

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[Dashie]

The upgrading 10,000 items (if this means slotting a jewel inside) this one is just a big filler, because a single player wouldn't even need to upgrade a personal item 10,000 times

As Asommers said,


NOTES:

Numbers can be tweaked.

-ALS

[Ploid]

Duel aps seems pointless as u can make a level 1 dummy and farm it over and over.

Atleast normally, the dummy needs to be leveled to level 80 atleast.

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[Encryptions]

Anything to deal with pvp is a no.
Do suggest adding "crafted planar pendant".
Maybe bring back the gold cap achievements? 1m 10m 100m 250m 500m 999.99m. If people get scammed its on them, their own fault.

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[Marosok]

This is the best you could come up with from many of great suggestions?
Pets: purchasable, heroic pets need to be added to maps loot tables if you want us to collect (i mean buy) 150
Kills: duel kills is pvp dummy farming 2.0, also purchasable for some without alts
Slots: needed, but purchasable
Items: material is, well, purchasable
Loot: finally something to grind, rip players with lower gold loot

Aps is just getting worse. Players gave you great ideas and you picked this. Allright then.

[Nexior]

U choose worst suggestion aps ever .
-1 for all of them lack of creativity

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[Neutrone]

Here's the ones I think are ok with numbers that I feel are reasonable.

Pets

Collected 400 (total 435)
Collected 50 arcane (total 69)

Collected 1, 10, 25 mythic (total 38)
Collected 1, 10, 25 arcanite (total 42)


Kills

PvE: 100, 500, 1000, 5000, 10000, 50000, 100000, 500000, 1000000



Slots (will need to verify limits)

Standard Inventory 100, 250, 500
Crafting Inventory 100, 250, 500
Furnishing Inventory 100, 250, 500
Stash 100, 250, 500
Crafting 5, 10, 25, 50
Auction 5, 10, 25, 50


Item

Crafted 10, 20, 50, 100, 200, 500, 1000 items
Crafted 1 flawless jewel (NOTE: 1 Flawless jewel for EVERY type of jewel)


Looted

Gold from mobs 1000, 10000, 100000, 1000000, 10000000


My additional APs

Completed all side quests for Brakenridge campaign
Completed all side quests for Ydra campaign
Completed all side quests for Dead city campaign
(I think you understand where I'm going with this)

[-Rogue-]

- I've been dueling since start, got only 3k kills in duels lol, to get 2k more i will need 5 more years? Or you forcing players to farm dummies in duels now? And then remove this aps because most of "top" players did it with dummies? (Flags....)
-pet aps, I have nothing against it (because i have got most of them already), but make them more useful and not broken??? From 350+ opened pets by all time I found only 15-20 useful passives (and 10 of those already outdated). 150 opened heroics with only 5-7 useful passives?
-pve kills - why do you pretend that there is no botters anymore
-crafted 10 flawless jewels - what's point? "Give me your precises, I craft flawless for you, need aps"? I mean at normal mode it's similar to getting aps for house locations, buy-open-sell. And how about those who already crafted 20+ flawless?
-awakened/empowered/augmented 10k items? Lol, whats next? Aps for sale in store by plat? This achievement can give banner/badge/title idk, but with 0 achievement points. Also with current awakening system (official scamming by devs) - gears should be just free for all.

Reading all this shet from developers I only can say - try play your own game just sometimes, check how things are going inside game instead spamming "added to list", looks like you all played it last time 7 years ago

[Xuds]

We asked to improve APs and example being to remove pvp aps because pvp is dead, and because more than half of the people that "spent time" (dummy farming) these APs then they shouldn't be removed? No offense but if asking to make APs "better" was going to lead to this, it'd be for the best to not change anything at all.

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[flashio]

At this point seeing the direction these achievements are going to, I would rather avoid adding these repetitive nonsensical achievements.
A bunch of aps hidden behind a paywall.

Considering ppl is complaining over and over bout how dull current aps are, why even come up with even more repetitive aps.

These are "Standard" achievements, or so is said in the thread title, what does the team have in mind for "non-standard" achievements? Seriously thinking you should invest more time on different type of aps, cause these are going nowhere.

[caabarader]

(Used Stones of Augmentation)
( Empowered Stones of Augmentation)
@asommers
What are those items? New awakens that are coming with awakening event?

[-Rogue-]

(Used Stones of Augmentation)
( Empowered Stones of Augmentation)
@asommers
What are those items? New awakens that are coming with awakening event?

Awakened N items = open 1st slot in 10k junk items by using awake elixir (5k in store) = just throw away 50m like you are richest in the world, I can imagine how much time it will take lmao, since we can't open 1st slot in item by 1 click
Stones of Augmentation = get scammed by using 10k blue awakes
Empowered... = get scammed by using 10k red ("elite") awakes

[caabarader]

Ok, I've read through the feedback from this thread (https://www.spacetimestudios.com/showthread.php?637021-Feedback-Achievements-II-(Standard)) and a majority did not want existing achievements removed.

So, rather than completely redo achievments, we're going to keep all of the existing achievements and I'm looking at just adding the following:

I welcome any comments, feedback, and/or constructive criticism.

-ALS

Pets

Collected 300, 400 (total 435)
Collected 50 arcane (total 69)
Collected 100, 125, 150 heroic (total 165)
Collected 1, 10, 25 mythic (total 38)
Collected 1, 10, 25 arcanite (total 42)


Kills

PvE: 100, 500, 1000, 5000, 10000, 50000, 100000, 500000, 1000000
Duel: 10, 50, 100, 500, 1000, 5000


Slots (will need to verify limits)

Standard Inventory 100, 250, 500
Crafting Inventory 100, 250, 500
Furnishing Inventory 100, 250, 500
Stash 100, 250, 500
Crafting 5, 10, 25, 50
Auction 5, 10, 25, 50


Item

Crafted 10, 20, 50, 100, 200, 500, 1000, 2000, 5000, 10000 items
Crafted 1, 10 flawless jewels
Upgraded N items 1, 10, 20, 50, 1000, 2000, 5000, 10000
Awakened N items 1, 10, 20, 50, 1000, 2000, 5000, 10000 (initial)
Augmented N items 1, 10, 20, 50, 1000, 2000, 5000, 10000 (Used Stones of Augmentation)
Empowered N items 1, 10, 20, 50, 1000, 2000, 5000, 10000 (Used Empowered Stones of Augmentation)


Looted

Gold from mobs 1000, 10000, 100000, 1000000, 10000000, 100000000, 100000000


-1 for pets
Like many said and will say, we all can agree that collect many pets is "expensive" and pointless, since not even 95% of them have any hb, aa or passive that are good with the current endgame.
-1 for pve and pvp kills
I got over 1m pve already, and i guess many lb overall got too, tho as other says, it will encourage players to bot. About pvp kills, really? It again?...
+-1 Slots
Is something useful on game, and at any point we'll need to increase them. Btw the limit of crafting is 25, i'm up if u guys rise it limit for 50.
-1 Items
Forces players to waste gold with craft and with awakening, the numbers can be changed, so i suggest if u rlly making it aps, to add real numbers, that any player don't find forced to do, but that he wants or needs to do, like craft an item because he want. Only the max for every i'll be suggesting:
Crafted:
5000-10000 items(jewels is something that we are always crafting, so i guess a big number for this wont be a problem, since we can sell jewels later too).
Remove flawless aps.
Upgraded 21 items(if we consider gear myth+, each item has 3 slots for jewels, and we have 7 items, so 7x3=21, if we consider putting jewels only on the damage set)
Awakened(i guess u mean the elixir?)- 50 is okay, max 100(I guess more than 50% prefer buying full awakened items)
Augmented awaken(normal/blue gem?)-50 or 100 is ok, thats 400-800k during awakening event(8k each)
Empowered augmented(elite awakening?) Shouldn't be aps, since can only be obtained during events and with plat, making it an expensive item on auc.
+1 for looted
Aps that need a gring are ok, and the amount isn't bad, like, not everyone is gonna get it(and as assomers said, not expected to everyone, but if so, will be a BIG achievement.)
The gold loot for overall players won't be or shouldn't be a problem. Actually around 10k runs if u loot around 100k gold per run(800-850%gl).

[Itzmemohsin]

-1

Why keep the obsolete , not so fun to do & senseless achievements ?

[Killerjam]

-1 duel aps, crafting/upgrading aps


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[Stephencobear]

Terrible ideas to add so many pointless “achievements “ behind a pay wall

Pets- too many are worthless for the game, we don’t want a ton of them

Kills= bots (you want that normalized?)
Duels= dummy farmin ( normalized)

Slots & items- boring, pointless, paywalled

None of this grows player base or invigorates dead maps
Please don’t waste your time on this and instead work on that huge list of improvements

[Bundlos]

Don't like any of the potential new APs. Most of them are repetitive and redundant and do not take into account the existing flaws of AL's current achievements. And I thought APs that required trading or buying were going to be avoided based off what was said in previous feedback threads but that's not the case in the list above^

[PatD]

IMHO Many are a bad idea

Pets
Collected 300 +1, 400 (total 435) -1
Collected 50 arcane (total 69)
Collected 100, 125, 150 heroic (total 165)
Collected 1, 10, 25 mythic (total 38)
Collected 1, 10, 25 arcanite (total 42)

As long as we can't use the pet that we already open as a pet skin/vanity for the pet we actually use, or as long as we can't slot eggs into passive, any more pet aps are really boring and frustrating, so many cool looking pet and we don't use them cuz they have very bad passive...


Kills
PvE: 100, 500, 1000, 5000, 10000, 50000, 100000, 500000, 1000000 +1
Duel: 10, 50, 100, 500, 1000, 5000 -1


Slots (will need to verify limits) +1
Standard Inventory 100, 250, 500
Crafting Inventory 100, 250, 500
Furnishing Inventory 100, 250, 500
Stash 100, 250, 500
Crafting 5, 10, 25, 50
Auction 5, 10, 25, 50


Item
Crafted 10, 20, 50, 100, 200, 500, 1000, 2000, 5000, 10000 items -1
Crafted 1, 10 flawless jewels +1 for cafting 1 maybe?
Upgraded N items 1, 10, 20, 50, 1000, 2000, 5000, 10000 -1
Awakened N items 1, 10, 20, 50, 1000, 2000, 5000, 10000 (initial) -1
Augmented N items 1, 10, 20, 50, 1000, 2000, 5000, 10000 (Used Stones of Augmentation) -1
Empowered N items 1, 10, 20, 50, 1000, 2000, 5000, 10000 (Used Empowered Stones of Augmentation) -1


Looted
Gold from mobs 1000, 10000, 100000, 1000000, 10000000, 100000000, 100000000 -1

[papas]

I wonder how many of ppl comment are on overall lb. Or how many really care abt that lb. Anyway, what I can see is that devs really need help from active players.
Try think of creating a little unofficial council with pve-pvp players and when needed u can have some conversations abt how to improve this game.
Will be hard to choose legit ppl tho who don't just need improvements and bufs/nerfs for their personal interest sinse most suggestions is what they need at the time.
Just a thought. I am not an op player with best knowledge abt this game but I can think of couple that might help.


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[Igotu12]

Any player saying pvp is dead, obviously doesn’t pvp. If you did, you’d know it isn’t. You just don’t wanna spend gold on gears cuz u cant dummy farm?

[Itznawaz]

Can you put a good title for 500k pve kills and 1m pve kills . And can u put an option to view elite kills just like as we can see our pve kills . Once i suggested to add an Achievement for opening Arc guapo , Arc precious & Arc timber cuz they are arcanite version of OG pets (you said Added to list) but its not there..

[|Ares|]

Literally no point in adding Duels achievement - dummyfarm the alts or friends
PVE kills - botting adventure
Farming gold - considering how much gold portal drops sure, but at best make it 1,000,000 gold not 100m.
Pets - 150 heroics out of 165? 100 is too many already, just another paywall unless you pull Eggzavier twice a year
Slots - again, whats so leaderboard about them? Nothing really. You already made a paywall one with house slots, don't do it again when entire playerbase is against it
Upgrading the gears - tweak the numbers to reasonable amount, but still it's not really good pick
Crafting - just 1 flawless takes time and money, I believe its too late to implement such achievements if there was no background for them in first place

If you are saying that we're not expected to have some of these done, Im guessing mostly because of the numbers then I don't really get the idea of implementing these in first place.
So far, wrong direction with achievements.
Besides, I agree with the statements that players that have never hit top player or are nowhere near to be hitting it, debating whether old aps should be removed or how new ones should look like is just hilarious to me, it's not reliable feedback.

[Encryptions]

Any player saying pvp is dead, obviously doesn’t pvp. If you did, you’d know it isn’t. You just don’t wanna spend gold on gears cuz u cant dummy farm?

Gears don't matter anymore, as a rogue or mage you both 1 shot each other in pvp, as a warrior you can get your 40k hp with juggernaut active taken out by a rog or mage in 3 seconds. No one is playing due to how imbalanced it is. PvP is gone at the moment until they fix it, even this honor pvp is imbalanced but its not far off, its still playable.

[Encryptions]

We are looking for achievements to have fun with, not something such as the awakening one for example where in order to get the achievement you are forced to sit there and spend 100mil gold on blue gems in the awake event to press the same button 10k times in order to get 1 achievement.
I mention this many times but we are looking for things like "craft the planar pendant", it is something new and interesting to do for those who never done planar tombs.
The 1million pve thing is fine, but you devs will need to change some maps to be pve active as in they give pve kills. I suggest valley gates and maus 3-6. PvE is apart of playing the game, its something you passively get as you play.
Pets is a huge no, anything going after spending large amounts of gold collecting something is not fun at all. PvP is no need to explain.
Add more quests into the game for levels 50-81, add more things to do like the past, planar pendant, antignome set, banished set we had to craft those by doing quests and running maps to get materials. Now we rely on locks to get gears which at the start costs 100m + gold then drops down to 5m gold.
Add more than just aps to harder achievements, add one of a kind very cool looking vanities or house items upon completion, people like the trophy questline in sidequests. Married for 1 2 3 4 years, gives 0 aps but presents a pink, purple, or blue title with a banner for each.

[intruders]

Horrible picks for new aps for the reasons people already explained.

I like @Encryptions idea about aps like planar pendant - similar to existing restored armor and glintstone set.

That kind of aps would require an actual playing and not just deep pockets and dumb clicking.

Trophy quests are great too and should have gotten aps from the beginning.

[aikl]

-1 duel aps, crafting/upgrading aps

agree.

I would still prefer APs related to team work similar to lichly consternation or quest like the mythic set.

[Nocturnus]

Duels: they will be the same as pvp, a lot of "illegal trade" and bots, but easier you don't have people in the way, long maps or barriers.
Items: really exaggerated numbers for aps that don't give any benefit, just click like crazy.



Thanks anyway.

[papas]

We are looking for achievements to have fun with, not something such as the awakening one for example where in order to get the achievement you are forced to sit there and spend 100mil gold on blue gems in the awake event to press the same button 10k times in order to get 1 achievement.
I mention this many times but we are looking for things like "craft the planar pendant", it is something new and interesting to do for those who never done planar tombs.
The 1million pve thing is fine, but you devs will need to change some maps to be pve active as in they give pve kills. I suggest valley gates and maus 3-6. PvE is apart of playing the game, its something you passively get as you play.
Pets is a huge no, anything going after spending large amounts of gold collecting something is not fun at all. PvP is no need to explain.
Add more quests into the game for levels 50-81, add more things to do like the past, planar pendant, antignome set, banished set we had to craft those by doing quests and running maps to get materials. Now we rely on locks to get gears which at the start costs 100m + gold then drops down to 5m gold.
Add more than just aps to harder achievements, add one of a kind very cool looking vanities or house items upon completion, people like the trophy questline in sidequests. Married for 1 2 3 4 years, gives 0 aps but presents a pink, purple, or blue title with a banner for each.U can get pve kills in maus. Maus 3-6 maps are scaling to ur lvl so u get pve kills

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[Encryptions]

U can get pve kills in maus. Maus 3-6 maps are scaling to ur lvl so u get pve kills

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Thought it was only 5-6 that did, didn't really pay attention in 1-4.

[QuaseT]

-1 for duels and also remove pvp aps

Everything else seems plain boring but is easy if you have gold on normal mode. Not really fun to do but will be done quick anyways for lb runners

[Sharan AL]

-1
craft slots
duel

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[papas]

Also in addition can u add some titles for reward when u get 35k and 40k aps? Need op title like apotheosis.
Thanx


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[Oawaoebi]

Duel 5k kills? Past then it was needed to level up a dummy to farm pvp kills now u just have to create a level 1 character. Its literally to explain it with Patrick star: We take the dummy farmed pvp aps from tdm/ctf and push them to duel.

It says 100 million gold looted from mobs are the bosses included? Just to clarify


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[Thewolfbull]

Removing PvP aps was the best idea you had and now are instead adding more that people can dummy farm? Not to mention pve kills that people will use bots to do.

Crafting/upgrading will take a while but it's doable
Gold drops from mobs are very low on most maps, why not make it bosses too and up the amount needed?

These aps seem to almost all be buyable which I get it, you need to make money too but it's almost all of them which kind of defeats the purpose of "Achievements"

And when you say not all these aps are meant to be achievable why not add way way more different types of aps that take time to get?
Because most of these aps can be got by one person if they have enough gold.

[Stephencobear]

Two pages of customers disagreeing with devs suggestions, no one wants all this

Will they listen to their customers or loose out
:rolleyes:hmmmm

[spityful17]

-1 for craft and duel aps and remove pvp aps too


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[asommers]

Ok, thanks for all the constructive feedback.

I went ahead and removed duels. No additional PvP achievements.

Although I stated numbers will be tweaked, I fixed the numbers for crafting/upgrading. While the numbers previously were 1, 10, 20, 50, 1000, 2000, 5000, 10000, the jump from 50 to 1000 was an error. It's supposed to be 1, 10, 20, 50, 100, 200, 500, 1000 so an order of magnitude was removed. The original post has been updated.

Please remember this is for standard achievements. I'm considering adding "Feats" which will be a separate section in the category list where the fun/zany ones will live (inspired by Feats of Strength during Festivus). When the standard list is finalized and out, we can talk Feats in another thread.

There seemed to be some confusion in "players are not expected to reach every achievement". I'm not going to add impossible achievements (such as Has 2B Gold when the cap is 999M, or Reached Level 450). What I meant by that is you're not required to do every achievement. If you don't like the achievement or category, you're free to skip it.

Keep the comments, feedback, and constructive criticism coming!

-ALS

[Itzmemohsin]

Adding more jewel crafting achievements would increase the price of jewels and hence will give new/poor players a good way to make gold.

And I don't think players running for leaderboard would really be effected much as they already have to spend a lot of gold to top the leaderboard.

[flashio]

Ok, thanks for all the constructive feedback.

I went ahead and removed duels. No additional PvP achievements.

Although I stated numbers will be tweaked, I fixed the numbers for crafting/upgrading. While the numbers previously were 1, 10, 20, 50, 1000, 2000, 5000, 10000, the jump from 50 to 1000 was an error. It's supposed to be 1, 10, 20, 50, 100, 200, 500, 1000 so an order of magnitude was removed. The original post has been updated.

Please remember this is for standard achievements. I'm considering adding "Feats" which will be a separate section in the category list where the fun/zany ones will live (inspired by Feats of Strength during Festivus). When the standard list is finalized and out, we can talk Feats in another thread.

There seemed to be some confusion in "players are not expected to reach every achievement". I'm not going to add impossible achievements (such as Has 2B Gold when the cap is 999M, or Reached Level 450). What I meant by that is you're not required to do every achievement. If you don't like the achievement or category, you're free to skip it.

Keep the comments, feedback, and constructive criticism coming!

-ALS

Great to hear there will be a different section with more entertaining achievements, that being said, these dull "standard" achievements could be very well kept unreleased since 99% of the current achievements in game are "standard" (repetitive/hidden behind a paywall/nonsensical).

I'm sure everyone can agree that adding more "standard" achievements is not a good thing to do, so please focus on "feats" achievements.

Even if you say we are not expected to complete every achievement, most players currently in the top player lbs or aiming to get in it will obviously complete it since they been working for it for a long time, the only reasons someone would skip an achievement is either s/he is not interested on getting into the top player lb or the achievement doesn't give achievement points.

If you want to add these so called "standard" achievements so be it, but make them give no points whatsoever, you can add plenty of things such as badges, an achievement exclusive colored title (this color would only be available for these achievements), vanities or furnishings. This way ppl will actually have a choice to skip them or not without it affecting the top player lb.

[Nocturnus]

Ok, thanks for all the constructive feedback.

I went ahead and removed duels. No additional PvP achievements.

Although I stated numbers will be tweaked, I fixed the numbers for crafting/upgrading. While the numbers previously were 1, 10, 20, 50, 1000, 2000, 5000, 10000, the jump from 50 to 1000 was an error. It's supposed to be 1, 10, 20, 50, 100, 200, 500, 1000 so an order of magnitude was removed. The original post has been updated.

Please remember this is for standard achievements. I'm considering adding "Feats" which will be a separate section in the category list where the fun/zany ones will live (inspired by Feats of Strength during Festivus). When the standard list is finalized and out, we can talk Feats in another thread.

There seemed to be some confusion in "players are not expected to reach every achievement". I'm not going to add impossible achievements (such as Has 2B Gold when the cap is 999M, or Reached Level 450). What I meant by that is you're not required to do every achievement. If you don't like the achievement or category, you're free to skip it.

Keep the comments, feedback, and constructive criticism coming!

-ALS

Now it looks better. The Feats section sounds interesting.
On the other hand, people expect to be able to complete these achievements to compete in Lb, without prize or incentive nobody would do any aps. So no one can afford to say "I won't do this", because they should directly say "I won't make any achievements, if I won't be able to compete anyway". For this reason, there should be a certain chance that someone will be able to complete the achievements, somehow.
Regarding the achievements in the Items and Looting section, will you put a counter somewhere? To keep track of gold farmed, awakening, etc., like with bosses and mobs on the elite.

[Itzmemohsin]

Achievements didn't get added yet into the game ? I thought as soon as season ends they will be added.

[Itznawaz]

Achievements didn't get added yet into the game ? I thought as soon as season ends they will be added.Yeah , why dint they get added yet?

@asommers , @Remiem , @Cinco

[Nexior]

Achievements didn't get added yet into the game ? I thought as soon as season ends they will be added.I know thats should be on start season, but calm down few days its not a delay

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[Spriteful]

How about adding banished set as APs?

[Player AL]

How about adding banished set as APs?

Set is tradeable, except helm which easy to get. Pointless aps

[aikl]

I went ahead and removed duels. No additional PvP achievements.


thank you.....

[Kelyx]

Ok, thanks for all the constructive feedback.

I went ahead and removed duels. No additional PvP achievements.

Although I stated numbers will be tweaked, I fixed the numbers for crafting/upgrading. While the numbers previously were 1, 10, 20, 50, 1000, 2000, 5000, 10000, the jump from 50 to 1000 was an error. It's supposed to be 1, 10, 20, 50, 100, 200, 500, 1000 so an order of magnitude was removed. The original post has been updated.

Please remember this is for standard achievements. I'm considering adding "Feats" which will be a separate section in the category list where the fun/zany ones will live (inspired by Feats of Strength during Festivus). When the standard list is finalized and out, we can talk Feats in another thread.

There seemed to be some confusion in "players are not expected to reach every achievement". I'm not going to add impossible achievements (such as Has 2B Gold when the cap is 999M, or Reached Level 450). What I meant by that is you're not required to do every achievement. If you don't like the achievement or category, you're free to skip it.

Keep the comments, feedback, and constructive criticism coming!

-ALSIf we are going to have upgrade items aps, consider to lower the upgrade time

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[caabarader]

Ok, thanks for all the constructive feedback.

I went ahead and removed duels. No additional PvP achievements.

Although I stated numbers will be tweaked, I fixed the numbers for crafting/upgrading. While the numbers previously were 1, 10, 20, 50, 1000, 2000, 5000, 10000, the jump from 50 to 1000 was an error. It's supposed to be 1, 10, 20, 50, 100, 200, 500, 1000 so an order of magnitude was removed. The original post has been updated.

Please remember this is for standard achievements. I'm considering adding "Feats" which will be a separate section in the category list where the fun/zany ones will live (inspired by Feats of Strength during Festivus). When the standard list is finalized and out, we can talk Feats in another thread.

There seemed to be some confusion in "players are not expected to reach every achievement". I'm not going to add impossible achievements (such as Has 2B Gold when the cap is 999M, or Reached Level 450). What I meant by that is you're not required to do every achievement. If you don't like the achievement or category, you're free to skip it.

Keep the comments, feedback, and constructive criticism coming!

-ALS

Nice for removing duel aps. The rise of pets aps are still a big hindrance for the list of aps, the awakens at least may upgrade our items and benefits our gameplay... I don't feel like wasting so much gold or time seaching for pets that we won't use because got stats/ability's outdated just for aps, i already feel extremely non-sense looking at me spending over 150m for get those 75 heroic that still level 1 because i've never used them...
Hope u understand the point.

[tamodo]

When will this be implemented?

[Nocturnus]

I wonder the same.
I also thought something would be added at the beginning of this session.
On the other hand, in the crafting area it says 50, but we only have a maximum of 25 slots for crafting.
Is it a mistake or will you add another 25? Anyway, those 25 extras are welcome. xD
Also auction has 250 slot and stash and standard inventory has 1k slot.

[Kelyx]

Im here again to say...

No more pets aps. I think its fine as it is right now, we dont need 500 pets that we wont use, thanks.
No more 1k bosses aps (theres is enough with zodias bosses and portals i think).
-1 on gold farmed aps.
-1 on craft/upgrade aps if the craft time is this one we have rn. 8 hours to upgrade any item.. meh
-1 on awake/empower aps (theres people that doesnt want to gambling his gold)

Just saying, those aps are to help with gold sink, might try something better like adding new things to Sir Spendsalot in kragg or updating token vendors instead of adding gold sink achievements, thanks.

Pretty sure theres lot of thread about gold sink with good ideas that could be implemented to help with gold sink.

+1 on adding aps like lichly totem that needs a team to complete it, funny aps. (Theres plenty of maps that could be completed in any specific team since we got class buffs, consider it for new aps)

+1 on adding craft aps like ebon replicator, glinstone set or the acquired restored heroes armor. Achievements that helps with the grind to run maps and get items for it.

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[worshipped]

Im here again to say...

No more pets aps. I think its fine as it is right now, we dont need 500 pets that we wont use, thanks.
No more 1k bosses aps (theres is enough with zodias bosses and portals i think).
-1 on gold farmed aps.
-1 on craft/upgrade aps if the craft time is this one we have rn. 8 hours to upgrade any item.. meh
-1 on awake/empower aps (theres people that doesnt want to gambling his gold)

Just saying, those aps are to help with gold sink, might try something better like adding new things to Sir Spendsalot in kragg or updating token vendors instead of adding gold sink achievements, thanks.

Pretty sure theres lot of thread about gold sink with good ideas that could be implemented to help with gold sink.

+1 on adding aps like lichly totem that needs a team to complete it, funny aps. (Theres plenty of maps that could be completed in any specific team since we got class buffs, consider it for new aps)

+1 on adding craft aps like ebon replicator, glinstone set or the acquired restored heroes armor. Achievements that helps with the grind to run maps and get items for it.

Enviado desde mi SM-G781B mediante TapatalkSame i agree. No more braindead aps, and yes to more aps that have some sort of unique touch to it eg: lichly totem, planar arena aps, naked orrick /hydra; you get the idea.

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[papas]

Pet aps is not that hard anymore. All arcanes are really cheap and eggsavier once a year is enough. Maybe add new heroic egg/pet in event vendors will help.
For pet lvling aps, in case u deside add that, my suggestion is add zodias companion elixir in zodias vendor. Should not worth the amount of 10k tokens tho. Make it cheap sinse lvl to 81 100pets will need op grind anyway. That will be easier to complete sinse many ppl grind elit zodias +portals for aps alrd.Also curensy chests , red eggs and unlocked chests from event vendor should always have chanse for zodias points and tokens for zodias vendor. Also pls add balanse tokens at least in red eggs next Easter event. It's a the only token forgot to be added.
Rest abt gold farm slots etc can be achieved with gold farm anyway. Lb players will not have any problem. It will might get sometime tho, but it's OK if u not be able finish all in a single season.
Lichy aps I agree u need a team n kind of a strategy so these aps always welcome. New aps like glint set or ebon vanity just need gold noone grinds to get it. Unless ur a hc and it's a pain same as 1k elit bosses.
Hope we see new aps soon. But just note all those new aps based on gold should not give more than 50aps. Like 100house slot aps. Shouldn't give to much advantage to ppl with huge amount of gold for overall lb.
Just my opinion thanx

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[caabarader]

Pet aps is not that hard anymore. All arcanes are really cheap and eggsavier once a year is enough. Maybe add new heroic egg/pet in event vendors will help.
For pet lvling aps, in case u deside add that, my suggestion is add zodias companion elixir in zodias vendor. Should not worth the amount of 10k tokens tho. Make it cheap sinse lvl to 81 100pets will need op grind anyway. That will be easier to complete sinse many ppl grind elit zodias +portals for aps alrd.Also curensy chests , red eggs and unlocked chests from event vendor should always have chanse for zodias points and tokens for zodias vendor. Also pls add balanse tokens at least in red eggs next Easter event. It's a the only token forgot to be added.
Rest abt gold farm slots etc can be achieved with gold farm anyway. Lb players will not have any problem. It will might get sometime tho, but it's OK if u not be able finish all in a single season.
Lichy aps I agree u need a team n kind of a strategy so these aps always welcome. New aps like glint set or ebon vanity just need gold noone grinds to get it. Unless ur a hc and it's a pain same as 1k elit bosses.
Hope we see new aps soon. But just note all those new aps based on gold should not give more than 50aps. Like 100house slot aps. Shouldn't give to much advantage to ppl with huge amount of gold for overall lb.
Just my opinion thanx

Στάλθηκε από το LDN-L21 μου χρησιμοποιώντας TapatalkPets aps not useful tho, of 75 pets i needed to reach top aps, i only use heroic grimm for vanity, timur for luck, breeze for passive and heroic regfiter for gold loot passive...

[asommers]

I still need to go through all three threads again and come up with the final list. I wanted them ready before the beginning of this season, but didn't make it. Whatever we do add, we'll try and get them in before the end of this month. If they're not added by then, we'll need to wait until next season.

-ALS

[Oawaoebi]

I still need to go through all three threads again and come up with the final list. I wanted them ready before the beginning of this season, but didn't make it. Whatever we do add, we'll try and get them in before the end of this month. If they're not added by then, we'll need to wait until next season.

-ALS

Let’s say empowered gems usage and gold loot usage gets added to the new achievements. Does already used or looted counts to the counter or will we all have to start from 0 bc the data is not kept?


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[papas]

I still need to go through all three threads again and come up with the final list. I wanted them ready before the beginning of this season, but didn't make it. Whatever we do add, we'll try and get them in before the end of this month. If they're not added by then, we'll need to wait until next season.

-ALSNotice pls that if awake event coming tomorrow. That will not count for future aps in case u deside add "awakening items aps".
It would bring much negativity and bad name in sts team if you deside release awakening item aps just after awake event ends.
I can understand that your not ready for adding new aps and that's fine.
I don't know if possible but u can add a counter, visible by us or not, so u can track awakens we alrd doing in this event. So awakening will not be lost for new aps.
Thanx

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[flashio]

Notice pls that if awake event coming tomorrow. That will not count for future aps in case u deside add "awakening items aps".
It would bring much negativity and bad name in sts team if you deside release awakening item aps just after awake event ends.
I can understand that your not ready for adding new aps and that's fine.
I don't know if possible but u can add a counter, visible by us or not, so u can track awakens we alrd doing in this event. So awakening will not be lost for new aps.
Thanx

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Or simply refrain from adding more aps hidden behind a paywall

[asommers]

I'm not entirely convinced the timing of when new achievement types are added really affects anything, everyone will start at the same time.

-ALS

[Nocturnus]

I'm not entirely convinced the timing of when new achievement types are added really affects anything, everyone will start at the same time.

-ALS

I agree, but you should give us some time to try to complete them, since there is a LB involved. I mean within the first month or two of the session it sounds good.

[Xuds]

@asommers Does the gold, pve count, and awaken aps count towards the ones we already used? Or will they reset everyone's to 0?

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[PatD]

Idk but my main motivation after playing everyday since Feb 2016 was to do aps to stay in LB, the 3 aps for killing 1000 boss in the 3 elites zodias portal is huge let down for me as i can't do them at my own rythm(i have already explain why), was wishing to at least get new one right after the beginning of this season but the fact you wait to add them is very bad imo, you should add them very soon, they are many people ultimate motivation! Thank you

[Crystalwiz]

I agree with the many who are calling these new suggestions "senseless repetitive aps behind a paywall".
Acquiring 400 pets means u have lots of gold to buy them as well as the other slots u are thinking of (needing plat to buy). Last eggszavior dropped mostly arcanes and not many heroics. If you up the ante on heroics are u going to drop more or add another eggszavior so we have 2 per year?

I do want new aps but not ones that u need to have lots of gold to accomplish. Agree pvp and duels are dead. Pve kills ok for aps.

[asommers]

@asommers Does the gold, pve count, and awaken aps count towards the ones we already used? Or will they reset everyone's to 0?

Depends. If I have the data (I do for kills), these will just be expanded. If I don't have the data (gold looted, items awakened, etc.) they will be 0 for everyone when introduced.

-ALS

[asommers]

I do want new aps but not ones that u need to have lots of gold to accomplish.

Just like we do now, in the end, we're going to have achievements that require a mixture of gold/time/skill.

-ALS

[Crystalwiz]

Just like we do now, in the end, we're going to have achievements that require a mixture of gold/time/skill.

-ALS

Thanks so much for your quick reply. :))

[Xuds]

Any update on this? Will this come out along with the elite Zodias gauntlet update or is it gonna be delayed till next season?

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[asommers]

Thanks for the feedback everyone!

Part 4 of the achievements discussion is located in this thread (https://www.spacetimestudios.com/showthread.php?647174-Feedback-Achievements-IV-(Standard)).

-ALS