2022-07-11 Content Update (293597) [Archive]

TzatOps

07-11-2022, 01:53 PM

+ More rewards have been added to the Arcane Anglers' Fishing Derby Leaderboard!
+ A Top 50 Rank has been added to the Leaderboard by popular demand!
+ Top 50 Rank gets 50 Platinum, 10 Elite Awakening Gems and the [Gone Fishin'] Title.
+ In addition to existing rewards the Top 10 Ranks get 100 Platinum, 10 Elite Awakening Gems, the [Gone Fishin'] Title and the [Arcane Angler] Title.
+ In addition to existing rewards the Top 1 gets 250 Platinum, 50 Elite Awakening Gems, and both of the new Titles.
+ Increased maximum House and Guild Hall Furnishing Slots by 100.

Scll

07-11-2022, 01:58 PM

Thanks for the house and gh slots increase;*

Trenton

07-11-2022, 01:58 PM

Nice! Gj so far leaderboarders, I got to 5k points and that was enough for me so I definitely give props to the grinders

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Encryptions

07-11-2022, 02:34 PM

Yes. Just yes.
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Honorably

07-11-2022, 03:10 PM

When you add rewards 11 days later.. rip to the people who decided not to run in the beginning. I wasn't even planning on running and I find that just ridiculous.

Undershooting

07-11-2022, 03:55 PM

May I ask why is the house show prioritises houses with the most slots/ furnitures ? I’ve got a beautiful house but it ends up being right at the bottom

flashio

07-11-2022, 04:06 PM

When you add rewards 11 days later.. rip to the people who decided not to run in the beginning. I wasn't even planning on running and I find that just ridiculous.

Welcome to the wonderful world of Arlor!

Nocturnus

07-11-2022, 06:07 PM

Simply absurd.

Jemstroyer

07-11-2022, 06:10 PM

Finalize your lb rewards first before releasing an event w/rewards next time devs

Immortal_Blood

07-11-2022, 06:30 PM

+ Top 50 Rank gets 50 Platinum, 10 Elite Awakening Gems and the [Gone Fishin'] Title.
+ Increased maximum House and Guild Hall Furnishing Slots by 100.

awesome.................

Immortal_Blood

07-11-2022, 06:35 PM

and if youre complaining about these rewards being late.. well bruh im gonna say youre clearly too rich to care to farm the event as it was. so.. you dont need the rewards.. hahahahha

Cinco

07-11-2022, 06:38 PM

When you add rewards 11 days later.. rip to the people who decided not to run in the beginning. I wasn't even planning on running and I find that just ridiculous.

I’ve considered it - and favoring players who don’t play the event actually seems ridiculous. No offense; love and respect :-)

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Trenton

07-11-2022, 08:33 PM

I think it's about time to riot in the streets /s

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Nocturnus

07-11-2022, 11:03 PM

I’ve considered it - and favoring players who don’t play the event actually seems ridiculous. No offense; love and respect :-)

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Funny. If people had known, from the beginning, that there would be better rewards, they would have worked harder and fought harder, like any other event.
Or do you think people play just for the love of the game? Not to mention that the fish drop was really bad and disappointing.
Maybe in the next events, I should keep in mind, blindly going for the Lb, praying and crying in the forums, hoping that on the last day you will double or add more prizes.
Respectfully, your words don't seem to make any sense.

Thanks anyway.

omaigad gustii

07-11-2022, 11:09 PM

Nocturnus

07-11-2022, 11:13 PM

I’ve considered it - and favoring players who don’t play the event actually seems ridiculous. No offense; love and respect :-)

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Also, maybe if you plan your event better in advance, or rethink why people don't play your event, you'll get people to.

Thanks again.

yerrisin

07-12-2022, 12:00 AM

and feedback in game for this event???

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Undershooting

07-12-2022, 02:54 AM

Finalize your lb rewards first before releasing an event w/rewards next time devs

It’s not the first time they’ve done this

flashio

07-12-2022, 04:37 AM

Marcin Bugaj

07-12-2022, 05:01 AM

classic move (not for first time) changed reward when event about to end.

maybe add reward to all who participated in event, cuz what you did is not fair to players

p.s: now u can removed my post ;)

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Nexior

07-12-2022, 05:03 AM

-1 for adding rewards..

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Fearrr

07-12-2022, 05:37 AM

@cinco consider releasing event previews on Mondays so ppl has time to give u feedback on the event so these changes can take place b4 the event starts and you devs have time to go through the feedback cuz 1 day is not enough time and it's been shown over several events already, this way of doing things is just not right.

+1

I brought something like this up over a year ago, but said something like have the Previews a week before the Events start. But Monday is another good suggestion. 1 day is not enough time. I'm sure Sts giving yourself more time to take the Communites Feedback will result in more players running for LB and possibly spending money cause the rewards are good and we're adjusted, and possible additions to Limited Event Sales from Feedback.

Cinco

07-12-2022, 07:22 AM

... or rethink why people don't play your event, you'll get people to.

Sorry for the confusion. I didn't mean to imply that we added Ranks and Rewards because people weren't playing the event. We added to the LB because the event has (once again) proven very popular and it seemed too restrictive to just award Top 10 and Top #1.

Nocturnus

07-12-2022, 09:40 AM

Sorry for the confusion. I didn't mean to imply that we added Ranks and Rewards because people weren't playing the event. We added to the LB because the event has (once again) proven very popular and it seemed too restrictive to just award Top 10 and Top #1.

So the event was so popular, that you arbitrarily decided to choose who to give the reward to, without giving the chance to the rest who were left halfway. That makes even less sense.
On the other hand, from everything I have commented, you only take that last sentence...

Thank you anyway.

Cinco

07-12-2022, 10:03 AM

So the event was so popular, that you arbitrarily decided to choose who to give the reward to, without giving the chance to the rest who were left halfway. That makes even less sense.
On the other hand, from everything I have commented, you only take that last sentence...

Thank you anyway.

Your assertions don't make sense.

Advocating that we should refrain from event improvements because some people opted out is where we fundamentally disagree. I held this position for a long time but have learned that it's wrong.

Itemstore

07-12-2022, 11:29 AM

Ilove_Poopoo

07-12-2022, 12:40 PM

Your assertions don't make sense.

Advocating that we should refrain from event improvements because some people opted out is where we fundamentally disagree. I held this position for a long time but have learned that it's wrong.

Advocating that you should refrain from event improvements, especially lb related modifications only when the event is already ongoing in this case - 11days after it had started

Because when a developer announces they won't modify anything after an event goes live, everyone assumes that whatever is provided on the preview is as good as it gets - and that's when people decide whether or not to join.

Cinco

07-12-2022, 01:08 PM

Advocating that you should refrain from event improvements, especially lb related modifications only when the event is already ongoing in this case - 11days after it had started

Because when a developer announces they won't modify anything after an event goes live, everyone assumes that whatever is provided on the preview is as good as it gets - and that's when people decide whether or not to join.

You’re advocating the same thing - and while I get the perspective it’s not the best policy going forward.

Furthermore: Let this serve as official notice that things can indeed change with LB even after the event has started. If you think about the implications it’s not a bad thing at all ;-)

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Itemstore

07-12-2022, 01:31 PM

You’re advocating the same thing - and while I get the perspective it’s not the best policy going forward.

Furthermore: Let this serve as official notice that things can indeed change with LB even after the event has started. If you think about the implications it’s not a bad thing at all ;-)

Sent from my iPhone using TapatalkFor staff to add to lb they have given just a little more to lb runners. I get that some people are a little down due to the prizes getting added however it's not a big buff in the prizes. It is not like top 50 all getting auras and vanity lb sets. Top 50 are just getting tittles some plat and elite awakes if anything it's a very small buff in prizes for a event what needed a buff in prizes. I haven't run but even if I did and decided to give up half way I'm not going to be upset if the prizes get buffed and players get a few plat and awakening gems omg. Granted I'd be a bit miffed if they all got auras and vanities added for lb as that's the reason I run. I don't run for plat or jewels or awakes I'd be happy if they removed them all together tbh there just a filler to me and not worth anything in my opinion. That being said if they added more vanity and stuff ye I'd be miffed lol. For staff to add to events players tho players should be greatly appreciative because I understand the hate if they removed stuff as that would make things understandable to be very upset however for them to add a little bit as a thank you to the runners is nice it shows they care.

PS cinco XD when we getting another house slot increase stash is 1k inventory is 1k let house slots be 1k so us creative builders can go ham with no limits but are imagination pleeeeeeeeeesssssss xD I want to make some mind bending builds but the limitations are a killer event with my imagination XD

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Scll

07-12-2022, 04:28 PM

Ye can yall add another 100 slots next week ik making it 1k will cause server problems "-"

Nocturnus

07-12-2022, 06:13 PM

Your assertions don't make sense.

Advocating that we should refrain from event improvements because some people opted out is where we fundamentally disagree. I held this position for a long time but have learned that it's wrong.

It is not very difficult to understand, people decide to run the LB for the prizes, simple as that.
It was an event that had no prizes, suddenly now it has.
How could anyone have guessed?
What if it was an award that people wanted?
How do people go back in time and farm the points they didn't?
Imagine that you are running a Lb and suddenly take prizes away from you or change them for others. How do you think people will feel?
Money, gold and time are usually invested in a LB, this event for example needed many baits that were obtained for gold, in other energy, altars, etc, these types of things are taken into account when participating in an event. I assume that you will refund people money, when you makes changes in half a LB.
I also think that if the changes had been made the first week it would have been time, 2 days from finishing, it would have been impossible to compete.
Add prizes at the end of the event, how can that be considered an improvement?
Anyway, now we must bear in mind that the prizes will also be changed on a whim.
I'm sorry, you can't see how bad it is for the game, in the long run you will lose the trust of your players, if you haven't already, everything is so contradictory lately, you say one thing and do another.

Thanks.

Cinco

07-12-2022, 06:44 PM

It is not very difficult to understand, people decide to run the LB for the prizes, simple as that.
It was an event that had no prizes, suddenly now it has.
How could anyone have guessed?
What if it was an award that people wanted?
How do people go back in time and farm the points they didn't?
Imagine that you are running a Lb and suddenly take prizes away from you or change them for others. How do you think people will feel?
Money, gold and time are usually invested in a LB, this event for example needed many baits that were obtained for gold, in other energy, altars, etc, these types of things are taken into account when participating in an event. I assume that you will refund people money, when you makes changes in half a LB.
I also think that if the changes had been made the first week it would have been time, 2 days from finishing, it would have been impossible to compete.
Add prizes at the end of the event, how can that be considered an improvement?
Anyway, now we must bear in mind that the prizes will also be changed on a whim.
I'm sorry, you can't see how bad it is for the game, in the long run you will lose the trust of your players, if you haven't already, everything is so contradictory lately, you say one thing and do another.

Thanks.

Play the events or don’t play the events - but don’t expect that the interests of non-participants will be prioritized over those of event participants.

Hopefully this is clear.

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Svvords

07-12-2022, 07:59 PM

Play the events or don’t play the events - but don’t expect that the interests of non-participants will be prioritized over those of event participants.

Hopefully this is clear.

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Had you guys clearly presented “ALL” lb rewards in your preview, these so called “non-participants” would have opted to run for lb, and their interests would have been relevant as well. The only reason they are called “non-participants” by you is because they did not decide to run lb precisely because the lb rewards in the preview were lacking in desirability.

Cinco

07-12-2022, 08:20 PM

Had you guys clearly presented “ALL” lb rewards in your preview, these so called “non-participants” would have opted to run for lb, and their interests would have been relevant as well. The only reason they are called “non-participants” by you is because they did not decide to run lb precisely because the lb rewards in the preview were lacking in desirability.

Still not a good (or compelling) reason for us to refrain from improving the rewards for actual participants. Thanks for the feedback nevertheless.

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Fearrr

07-12-2022, 08:30 PM

Still not a good (or compelling) reason for us to refrain from improving the rewards for actual participants. Thanks for the feedback nevertheless.

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Ok...But is it compelling enough for you guys to stop doing the Official Preview Threads a day before the Event starts? And give your Team more time to make changes based on Feedback? Which in the end will lower the chances of you guys having to improve rewards after the Event starts.

Cinco

07-12-2022, 08:55 PM

Ok...But is it compelling enough for you guys to stop doing the Official Preview Threads a day before the Event starts? And give your Team more time to make changes based on Feedback? Which in the end will lower the chances of you guys having to improve rewards after the Event starts.

We'd love to do Previews earlier (and we are working on that) but to set expectations it's unlikely to happen this year given our current pace of development.

Svvords

07-12-2022, 09:11 PM

Cinco

07-12-2022, 09:47 PM

so players are supposed to run event lb blindly now and just hope for an improvement in the rewards thereafter. got ya.

You're supposed to have fun.

I prefer that you play AL events but I respect your choice to skip LB events that aren't worth it to you, and I don't want you to play events you fundamentally dislike.

If participating players make a good suggestion after the event has started we'll consider it (if we think it's worthwhile) as opposed to categorically ignoring it because the event has already started.

Svvords

07-12-2022, 10:41 PM

You're supposed to have fun.

I prefer that you play AL events but I respect your choice to skip LB events that aren't worth it to you, and I don't want you to play events you fundamentally dislike.

If participating players make a good suggestion after the event has started we'll consider it (if we think it's worthwhile) as opposed to categorically ignoring it because the event has already started.

I play AL events regardless of tier rewards, what I forego is the choice to actually gun for lb if the rewards in the preview is not desirable to me. At least give us that choice before the event starts.

Some players here liked the additional rewards that you implemented to this fishing event after 1 week, the problem is they are already too far behind on points to even catch up to 50th place.

Immortal_Blood

07-12-2022, 10:48 PM

-1 for adding rewards..

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same.. -1. though my previous comment remains d same. . haha

Immortal_Blood

07-12-2022, 10:51 PM

Play the events or don’t play the events - but don’t expect that the interests of non-participants will be prioritized over those of event participants.

Hopefully this is clear.

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good point. I feel the rewards shouldnt determine if someone plays the event or not. that may sound weird.. but thats what i think.

Immortal_Blood

07-12-2022, 10:56 PM

but.. i see the other side too.. some people play for the LB rewards regardless if its fun, and the thought that they in fact didnt need to grind such activities so much to get top 50 ... ; i can see how that would be annoying.

Immortal_Blood

07-12-2022, 10:59 PM

those players who consistently are in top 50 for most events, yeah, i feel its an annoying feeling knowing with the time u had u could've got top 50.

Immortal_Blood

07-12-2022, 11:02 PM

but then i also feel.. whats the problem? why just be happy that your fellow legends have got some extra loot..? hahaa maybe i have 5 different personalities.

Immortal_Blood

07-12-2022, 11:04 PM

[QUOTE=Immortal_Blood;3852835]but then i also feel.. whats the problem? why NOT just be happy that your fellow legends have got some extra loot..? hahaa maybe i have 5 different personalities.* sorry, typo !!

GucciBang

07-12-2022, 11:38 PM

there is no fun fishing in a mobile game, are you out of ideas? ask the community and we'll tell you what really fun

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Jemstroyer

07-13-2022, 01:42 AM

there is no fun fishing in a mobile game, are you out of ideas? ask the community and we'll tell you what really fun

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Even I get bored fishing in Black Desert Mobile even it has auto fish feature🤣

Honorably

07-13-2022, 05:08 AM

I’ve considered it - and favoring players who don’t play the event actually seems ridiculous. No offense; love and respect :-)

Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk but players decide days before when you release the update on forums if they wanna run or not. Rusk didn't even have a badge and you added that days later, after players decided it wasn't worth the time and effort. Imagine if you pulled this with ghost/medusa/etc

Sharan AL

07-13-2022, 11:54 AM

-1 for adding rewards, You should have done that next year but when the event is live you cant add prize or make changes to LB prize. That's what your general policy says (according to you)

Just remove those rewards back and issue resolved.

Thank you

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Nocturnus

07-13-2022, 01:23 PM

Play the events or don’t play the events - but don’t expect that the interests of non-participants will be prioritized over those of event participants.

Hopefully this is clear.

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You're supposed to have fun.

I prefer that you play AL events but I respect your choice to skip LB events that aren't worth it to you, and I don't want you to play events you fundamentally dislike.

If participating players make a good suggestion after the event has started we'll consider it (if we think it's worthwhile) as opposed to categorically ignoring it because the event has already started.

People don't just play for fun or love of the game. Not here, not anywhere.
Personally, I have fun when I advance in some objective that I set for myself, such as aps, quest, obtaining certain gear, rewards etc, playing for the sake of playing is not fun at all.
Look at honor pvp, totally empty maps until you implemented that token system.
People play events for the rewards, you have to be naive to deny that.
On the other hand, any improvement is welcome as long as everyone is pretty much on the same footing, for example changing the mini-games, some form of fishing, some drop, etc. But adding rewards, towards the end, when 1 has 50k points, another 20k and another 100k, it's totally unequal.
You reward some for playing longer and punish others for not playing long enough. I mean you didn't even give them a chance to try harder.
The people who had 30k, 40k, 50k, etc, even 5k or 10k of points and not even playing 24 hours will get LB are also your so-called "non-participants".

Cinco

07-13-2022, 01:34 PM

People don't just play for fun or love of the game. Not here, not anywhere.
Personally, I have fun when I advance in some objective that I set for myself, such as aps, quest, obtaining certain gear, rewards etc, playing for the sake of playing is not fun at all.
Look at honor pvp, totally empty maps until you implemented that token system.
People play events for the rewards, you have to be naive to deny that.
On the other hand, any improvement is welcome as long as everyone is pretty much on the same footing, for example changing the mini-games, some form of fishing, some drop, etc. But adding rewards, towards the end, when 1 has 50k points, another 20k and another 100k, it's totally unequal.
You reward some for playing longer and punish others for not playing long enough. I mean you didn't even give them a chance to try harder.
The people who had 30k, 40k, 50k, etc, even 5k or 10k of points and not even playing 24 hours will get LB are also your so-called "non-participants".

So are you still advocating that I ignore requests to change / improve rewards irrespective of merit just because the event has started?

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Nocturnus

07-13-2022, 02:23 PM

So are you still advocating that I ignore requests to change / improve rewards irrespective of merit just because the event has started?

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Of course, always talking about "LB rewards", making changes in the first days of the event seems logical, because as I already said everyone is almost in the same condition, but 2 or 3 days before the event ends, what is the point?
Punish the rest for not playing the event enough?
What merit? If they had known that there would be rewards, the LB would be double or triple the points.

Cinco

07-13-2022, 02:46 PM

...making changes in the first days of the event seems logical...

That's reasonable! :-)

Punish the rest for not playing the event enough?

I think you've been clear in communicating how you feel. No hate: I think you're looking at it backwards (and I feel like I've made this equally clear).

What merit? If they had known that there would be rewards, the LB would be double or triple the points.

Sounds like you don't think the community has / will have worthwhile ideas after an event has started. This is not correct. These ideas should be considered.

Thanks for your considerate, constructive (though critical) feedback.

Nocturnus

07-13-2022, 03:17 PM

That's reasonable! :-)

I think you've been clear in communicating how you feel. No hate: I think you're looking at it backwards (and I feel like I've made this equally clear).

Sounds like you don't think the community has / will have worthwhile ideas after an event has started. This is not correct. These ideas should be considered.

Thanks for your considerate, constructive (though critical) feedback.

We're talking about LB prizes, not event upgrades. And it seems obvious that if they are full points, and they think they are going to win LB, they are going to ask for better prizes or certain changes. And I'm not against any changes either, I just question the timing of those changes.

Thanks to you too for your answers. I think we're done here.

Undershooting

07-17-2022, 03:42 AM

Next time I’m on lb I’ll try spamming for extra rewards right before the event ends XD Who knows something may be added to the reward

Roguemaybe

07-19-2022, 03:37 AM

Actually this could be minimized if the details of the event like the LB rewards are publicized earlier, so there is time for feedback on the rewards before event even starts. (And changed if needed)

Currently confirmed event details are normally publicized 1-2 days earlier, but maybe 4-5 days earlier might be better.

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